I'm glad there is finally something came when I clicked the update button after a long time. And here it is, February security update after skipping January and releasing it after mid March, what a great speed of updates. I was hoping for Oreo but Motorola wants to take their time I think. Expected to get Oreo by mid April or they'll just troll us by pushing a March security patch.
Update is of 57mb if you're wondering.
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's not about skinning, it's about priorities - Moto Z Play is almost 2-year non-flagship device, so you should be happy, that you'll get update. Moto Z2 Force, which is newest flagship is already on Oreo for some time...
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It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's 8.0 and as pointed out this phone is already old and a non flagship. Comparing this to a S8 is like comparing apples to oranges.
Apple is not on Android but oranges may be
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uchihakurtz said:
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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I read about project treble, it seems the problem with slow updates is vendor implementation. Lenovo just want to slow updates for older phones so people will get frustrated and buy their new phones. It's just a theory, maybe something else is the problem for slow updates. I think in couple of months they'll push last updates to MZP, no expectations for Android P because how slow they are pushing updates, it seems like they just want to get rid of their older devices. It's a common market parctice so I don't have any problem but thanks to XDA developers for making custom roms so users can enjoy new android in older phones too.
They used to be so fast when they were Motorola.. now they are a Lenovo company and SLOW AS HELL.
The phone feels snappier after this security update... maybe I'm dreaming
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They used to be so fast when they were Motorola.. now they are a Lenovo company and SLOW AS HELL.
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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i m on second build
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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And how stable is 4th one? Less buggy then the 3rd one?
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And how stable is 4th one? Less buggy then the 3rd one?
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So far so good but I have to check bugs other users are reporting. Some bugs, like stability, battery drain, etc. are showing up after couple of days. It's not clever to install update, test few things and then report right away that everything works.
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So far so good but I have to check bugs other users are reporting. Some bugs, like stability, battery drain, etc. are showing up after couple of days. It's not clever to install update, test few things and then report right away that everything works.
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Whatcha mean? I see a ton of people doing just that.. I love the random unresponsiveness still.
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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newer build number please,
Here you go
My moto z play is RETEU. Why am I still on the December 2017 sesurity patch? Does anyone know?
formula2 said:
My moto z play is RETEU. Why am I still on the December 2017 sesurity patch? Does anyone know?
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Same
abhishekiswithyou said:
newer build number please,
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Sorry if this is duplicated question, I searched the forum but found nothing definitive yet.
Is there any information regarding the new official update to Lollipop 5.1 for Moto G 2014? (Preferably the XT1068 version, which is the one I have). I read on news that Moto G 2014 (and other models) were receiving the update because of that security bug, but haven't found any download for the new version so far... (maybe is too recent?)
Thanks in advance. Regards.
No. Motorla seems to do a soak test these days but there is no 5.1.x firmware out.
Thanks for the information!
Could we expect that this test will help us acquire it? I mean, the 5.0.2 for the XT1068 was also a soak test and we got it, right?
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Thanks for the information!
Could we expect that this test will help us acquire it? I mean, the 5.0.2 for the XT1068 was also a soak test and we got it, right?
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I'd say it's 99% certain that we WILL get 5.1.1 ... the only question is when.
My (wild) guess would be this year.
They have only sent out the standard survey-form which they do before every test but afaik they haven't actually started testing yet.
So, depending on when they'll actually start and how well the soak test goes it might be as soon as within 2-3 Months = probably this year.
(Again, just a wild guess and a bit of whishful thinking)
I know about as much as Motorola Support, which is absolutely nothing.
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I know about as much as Motorola Support, which is absolutely nothing.
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:laugh: made my day!
why the heck are they so damn slow?! here I am, alternating between different roms because I can't find a ROM that doesn't glitch out on me after using it for a few days :/
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why the heck are they so damn slow?! here I am, alternating between different roms because I can't find a ROM that doesn't glitch out on me after using it for a few days :/
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Seems like since the chinese bought motorola a lot has changed there...
Try Titan Prime 1.1.1 with stellar kernel 5.1,fast,stable and good battey stats.
It´s based on stock and my daily driver. But (yes) it´s based on #*+% android 5.0.2 not on.....you know.
maybe because lenovo have bought motorola.
sry for my english
Huh, I'll give it a try! cm12.1 is really buggy for me
Soak tests haven't been started yet, only forms have been filled.
Problem with Android is Google is releasing versions so fast, vendors do not have time to adapt each and every version (plus: why should they? they make no money out of it)
Maybe we will not get Android 5.1 on Moto G 2014 but Android 6.0 when it's released really soon.
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Problem with Android is Google is releasing versions so fast, vendors do not have time to adapt each and every version (plus: why should they? they make no money out of it)
Maybe we will not get Android 5.1 on Moto G 2014 but Android 6.0 when it's released really soon.
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They make no money but I think for many people fast updates are an argument to buy a device. And on the other side, if I was a vendor I would be very careful with the release of a brand-new firmware after the disaster with 5.0 and probably better come out with a stable 5.1.1 than a (eventually) buggy 6.0.
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They make no money but I think for many people fast updates are an argument to buy a device. And on the other side, if I was a vendor I would be very careful with the release of a brand-new firmware after the disaster with 5.0 and probably better come out with a stable 5.1.1 than a (eventually) buggy 6.0.
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How may people do care about updated versions? Very few, really.
App updates? Sure. Give them new a new version of WhatsApp, Facebook, etc. Maybe even an enhanced camera app. But a new firmware? Very few people even know what that is.
So a device with guaranteed updates? Yes, there is a market for that: developers or curious people. And that's why the Google Nexus class of devices exists and sells well.
Yeah,these android nerds...?
What about security? I think that the best way is that the system gets update not depending from the manufacturer, like with the computer. Will be possible in the future of Android?
5.1 rollout starts
5.1 rollout starts in Brazil
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5.1 rollout starts in Brazil
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Thats for the Gen1....
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/edc7501cc4?page=209
Spotted in India:
http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-11088.php
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Spotted in India:
http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-11088.php
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Any links for the update available already? OTA will probably take forever to arrive.
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5.1 rollout starts in Brazil
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Really hopping that update fixes some 5.0.2 bugs... And decrease the lag too xD
Anyone have a guess or idea on when 7.0 will arrive on the Pure Edition?
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Anyone have a guess or idea on when 7.0 will arrive on the Pure Edition?
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Stock OTA? Probably in Novemberish December like Marshmallow did. Custom roms? Prob late September early October
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Stock OTA? Probably in Novemberish December like Marshmallow did. Custom roms? Prob late September early October
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Do you think Motorola will really pump out the update so quickly now that Lenovo owns them instead of Google?
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Do you think Motorola will really pump out the update so quickly now that Lenovo owns them instead of Google?
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If Lenovo is smart, it will happen on this time frame. After all, this was one of the selling points of this phone and brand. I can understand their stance on quarterly security updates vice monthly, so I don't think it is indication of any delay to be expected. Having recently acquired the Moto line, failure to meet this expectation would be bad for business. My only hope is that the level of quality fit future phones remains intact. I have had the bad luck of being burned by both a laptop and windows tablet by them. Both had mobos that quit within a few months of the year warranty being up.
It shouldn't take more than 2 months after the release for nexus which means in november ; marshmallow was released fir nexus devices in october and our moto recieved it in december! Actually I believe that it shoudn't take more than a month ! I mean the job is pretty easy for lenovo! No modding no UI changes..... It's pretty much stock android All it takes is a clean build ! It isn't that different from making an update for nexus devices!
Moto has already released the list of devices getting O ,some weeks ago.
Today, I was with chat with the moto representative, trying to get to know the timeline for O Update in the Z Play.
And, yes she told that it will get Very Soon.
She is assuring that it'll definitely get it Very soon.
Then i reconfirmed the device and asked if it'll get before 2017,and yes it'll definitely get before (Within)2017.
Error: By mistake i have written "before 2017" actually it's "Within 2017".
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I'll believe when I'll see - Moto is not very trustworthy as for updates. I've been waiting for Moto X Force update more than half a year (to 7.x), my Wife is still waiting for that 7.x update for Moto X Play, so they promising a lot, but have problem with delivering...
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I'll believe when I'll see - Moto is not very trustworthy as for updates. I've been waiting for Moto X Force update more than half a year (to 7.x), my Wife is still waiting for that 7.x update for Moto X Play, so they promising a lot, but have problem with delivering...
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That is the case with Moto X force but it'll not happen with the Z Series as it was released by lenovorola and not Motorola.
Well, as a matter of fact, I don't really care - Oreo hasn't got any interesting, revolutionary or even evolutionary changes, that I'll be looking for. For me it should be 7.2, not 8.x.
I wouldn't count on that considering the fact how long it took them to update form 7.0 to 7.1.1 and that we're still lagging over a month behind with security updates. On the other hand, 8.0 has own set of issues now and sometimes it's better to wait for patched version than just rush things.
Exactly, some people are just bugging vendor to provide update ASAP and then complain about bugs. Ridiculous. I would rather wait for 8.1 or similar instead of stuck with 8.0.
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Well, not quite. If vendor is able and known for releasing fast updates then sure, update straigh away and then do small incremenetal ones as fast as possible as soon as bugs are found. That would be ideal. Sadly, this rule rarely apply here and vendors tend to release bugged firmware and then take another couple months to fix the problems.
Even you're not agree at first, later you explained exactly what I meant. Choosing between getting buggy 8.0 and then nothing for months or ever, or wait a bit longer and get bug free 8.x. I'm choosing second option.
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Exactly, some people are just bugging vendor to provide update ASAP and then complain about bugs. Ridiculous. I would rather wait for 8.1 or similar instead of stuck with 8.0.
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I agree. It is better to wait for a bug fix. :good:
Well, he or she never confirmed the 2017, you just want to read it that way. What is confirmed, is the "soon" (Motorola-soon)
And I wouldn't give too much on the word of a support employee.
For sure will not get update "before 2017"
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For sure will not get update "before 2017"
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Hehe it's "Before 2018".
Yash24 said:
Hehe it's "Before 2018".
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That is correct.
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Well, as a matter of fact, I don't really care - Oreo hasn't got any interesting, revolutionary or even evolutionary changes, that I'll be looking for. For me it should be 7.2, not 8.x.
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It removes FUSE, replacing it by SDCardFS! That means:
- All file system accesses will be faster (probably about 20%).
- The old bug not being able to set a timestamp is said to be gone.
This is a change which I'm hoping for since start of 2009 when they introduced that bug with Android 4.0, extending it to all file systems with Android 4.4. This is my main reason for rooting every device (beside easy backup possibilities).
Does anyone has news about when will oreo update be out for g5 plus? :crying:
Ohkay... 91 views and no replies. I mean... I guess it's because that kind of information can be easily Googled but here we go...
Hmmm, the Oreo update should drop by December. The last article I read said something about the update getting ready by the end of this year.
I mean, optimistically speaking, yes, it's happening. However, don't be surprised if we have to wait until January.
Or go flash yourself Oreo! It's super easy!
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Ohkay... 91 views and no replies. I mean... I guess it's because that kind of information can be easily Googled but here we go...
Hmmm, the Oreo update should drop by December. The last article I read said something about the update getting ready by the end of this year.
I mean, optimistically speaking, yes, it's happening. However, don't be surprised if we have to wait until January.
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well, i was done with google because of same sites and blogs, thought maybe someone had an idea or atleast some clue...
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Or go flash yourself Oreo! It's super easy!
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i am eager to do that but stock rom rocks...
Moto is currently carrying out Oreo soak test on Moto Z, Z Play and maybe on Z2 Play. I read that on a reddit thread and GSMArena posted the same a few days ago. If I were you, I'd keep a close watch on the reddit threads for Oreo soak test's progress
Honestly... If we get it before Android P is in beta, I would be surprised. The G5 (non-S) series is towards the bottom of devices Moto is concerned with getting Nougat, newer devices will get it first and Lenovo's recent history of update releases is pretty poor. My opinion is we can look for it maybe March to May of next year, although I could be off a couple months one way or the other.
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Honestly... If we get it before Android P is in beta, I would be surprised. The G5 (non-S) series is towards the bottom of devices Moto is concerned with getting Nougat, newer devices will get it first and Lenovo's recent history of update releases is pretty poor. My opinion is we can look for it maybe March to May of next year, although I could be off a couple months one way or the other.
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Just like the G4
GopalKaul said:
Just like the G4
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And Moto X Pure/Style, and the Moto G 2015... oh wait, that one never did get it's last upgrade. :/
Basically, since when Google had Motorola the update life cycle and speed of releases was improving the entire time... Since Lenovo got a hold of Moto, it's completely reversed to beyond where Motorola was at before Google got them. I like the hardware, but the software update cycle leaves a lot to be desired.
Anyway, this thread wasn't meant to be a P&M session, so I will let it go at that.
With the August HTC announcement via Twitter that the U11 will receive Android 9.0 (Pie), wanted to get a specific Pie discussion going. I'm aware of the Software Update thread, etc,... but this is U11 PIE specific here.
Me personally. I'm hoping PIE brings a radio firmware update as well. I never got my Oreo VZW SMS issues resolved other than to stick with 7.1.1 until something comes along that works. And I don't like not having the latest security patches.
So that brings me to the next point. Hopefully PIE fulfills the promise of decoupling security updates from firmware and software updates. i.e., be able to always implement the latest security patches for that version of Android, regardless if the OEM provides updates or not. Here's to hoping.
Anyways, I know there are some PIE based ROMs out there, but hopefully when the first official HTC released PIE update hits the street, you'll hear it here first.
Cheers
1st of all, do you both have a history? or I'm the only one who feel this way.
2nd, Currently there is a Pie ROM here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/development/rom-slim7-t3855041), try if you want
For me, I'm not so excited with HTC U11 official PIE release, since the U11 has capacitive keys so they cannot have or evolve to a way we can have gesture or something like that.
What I'm more looking forward to is all the custom ROM which will come after the official release !
So that brings me to the next point. Hopefully PIE fulfills the promise of decoupling security updates from firmware and software updates. i.e., be able to always implement the latest security patches for that version of Android, regardless if the OEM provides updates or not. Here's to hoping.
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Really hoping for this too.
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Really hoping for this too.
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I'm debating if I should wait for pie or get a pixel 3xl. I have 2 U11's and one I got for free. With the black Friday deal on Verizon I won't even lose money. The question is HTC or Google Pie...
Me 2. But the boss may not be pleased I get another phone after a year.haha. Next phone pixel for me. Our phones are as important as our computers these days. She is apple fan too and she has told me a few times get an iphone over the years . Sure rip off to start but it gets updated for years. Despite this I like the flexibility of Android so pay extra for the pixel and get security updates.
When they announced we were going to be getting Pie on Twitter they stated 'Timeframes for roll-out will be announced in due course'. Has anyone heard anything about the roll-out as that statement was made three months ago?!
In this case "in due course" translates to "we have no plans".
I haven't seen any new information about Pie for the U11 since this announcement, and don't expect Pie in 2018.
Maybe in early 2019 ? But even that isn't sure.
Maybe HTC will close down before releasing it.
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In this case "in due course" translates to "we have no plans".
I haven't seen any new information about Pie for the U11 since this announcement, and don't expect Pie in 2018.
Maybe in early 2019 ? But even that isn't sure.
Maybe HTC will close down before releasing it.
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That's what I think. I did email HTC Support (waste of time) who advised me to go to settings and check for update! As much as I like this phone it will be my last HTC as they do not supply any after-sales customer care whatsoever!
i have similar sympathies. Up until now all of my phones except for one have been HTC devices but I have a feeling the company can't keep up anymore. Sense hasn't had a decent upgrade in ages. HTC apps like dialer look and work dated and now updates also take way too long. I remember that at some point they said 90 days (back in the Lollipop days) after a new android release and that would put Pie in November but we haven't even had a proper leak yet.
Unless they come out punching hard with the next model I'm afraid this has been it for me and HTC and I'll move maybe to the Sammy camp or something.
Other than the lack of updates, its a great phone, my minor issue is how bluetooth is handled when compared to my last phone (lg v20 ) which got water damaged. With the Lg v20 you could have 2 bluetooth devices connected at the same time. So in car you not need to worry if you had your headset connected if you got a call. Its a minor issue but a annoying you have to remember to turn off your watch (i got a huawei band 2 watch you can take calls on).
Anyway back on topic, I wonder Pie would add this feature or not so if you got a call you can take it on any of the two bluetooth devices.
Since the rumor that HTC was canceling early 2019 flagship phone, I think that may have some influences on Pie.
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Since the rumor that HTC was canceling early 2019 flagship phone, I think that may have some influences on Pie.
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They said they're focusing on 5G phones
Well I got it all wrong.
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Its googles fault, they are waiting for them previously when I asked it was the telco but it is never htc fault.
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HTC release Pie for U11 life https://www.ubergizmo.com/2018/11/htc-u11-life-android-pie-update/
The firmware for the U11 life can't be that much different from the U11. We may get it quicker than we think?
Joooo ****ing pie in u11 Life?!!!!? Oh ****
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The firmware for the U11 life can't be that much different from the U11. We may get it quicker than we think?
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No, we won't
U11 Life is an Android One device.
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The firmware for the U11 life can't be that much different from the U11. We may get it quicker than we think?
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Is absolutely different. The life version is an "android one" device.
Is normal, as expected, that the u11 life get first the updates.
Now, should update the u12+, then the u11+ and the last the u11. If we get the update on February I would say that we are lucky.
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HTC release Pie for U11 life https://www.ubergizmo.com/2018/11/htc-u11-life-android-pie-update/
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The firmware for the U11 life can't be that much different from the U11. We may get it quicker than we think?
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U11 life has 2 version:
1 version with HTC software, officially not getting Pie, and will never get
1 version in the Android One program, so it get updated to Android Pie
Don't mess both version, because they are never the same .
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In this case "in due course" translates to "we have no plans".
I haven't seen any new information about Pie for the U11 since this announcement, and don't expect Pie in 2018.
Maybe in early 2019 ? But even that isn't sure.
Maybe HTC will close down before releasing it.
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I'm already expecting they will release a apology statement for not updating U11. Just wait for our awesome developer community