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7.1 Update?

Before the G6 launched I read a review that said something to the effect LG was trying to get the device out with 7.1. Well that didn't happen but there's been silence since. Anyone have info on LG releasing a 7.1 update? I know LG doesn't have the best update track record, hopefully it isn't months from now.

mr mystery said:
Before the G6 launched I read a review that said something to the effect LG was trying to get the device out with 7.1. Well that didn't happen but there's been silence since. Anyone have info on LG releasing a 7.1 update? I know LG doesn't have the best update track record, hopefully it isn't months from now.
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No 7.1 in the G6 future, LG never update to this "minor" release, only security patch updates with enhancements, like in previous LG smartphones

7.1 is more than a minor update though. It fixes the bad standby drain that's present in 7.0. If they don't update to 7.1 I'll likely dump LG if this is indeed how they do things. Thanks for the reply

mr mystery said:
7.1 is more than a minor update though. It fixes the bad standby drain that's present in 7.0. If they don't update to 7.1 I'll likely dump LG if this is indeed how they do things. Thanks for the reply
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Then jump immediately, they won't update to 7.1, they'll jump directly to Android O.

I don't think thats true. LG said they're gonna update to 7.1 to pre-production reviewers so they're probably gonna do it.

WstrKuNoužč said:
I don't think thats true. LG said they're gonna update to 7.1 to pre-production reviewers so they're probably gonna do it.
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Where you read that? Never heard about this on any reviewer that I follow.

Killua96 said:
Where you read that? Never heard about this on any reviewer that I follow.
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Heard at least cpl of reviewers say it. Don't remember who tho. I've watched a lot of G6 reviews but only read a cpl.
Either way, if they aren't pushing 7.1 they'll probably hurry up with Android O, as you said. They're usually one of the first ones to update their eligible phones to new Android and Android O is supposedly really close (fall release).

Rumor has it the g5, V20 and now I assume G6 are jumping from 7.0 to 7.1.2. That only recently was released to pixel/nexus phones.

Barsky said:
Rumor has it the g5, V20 and now I assume G6 are jumping from 7.0 to 7.1.2. That only recently was released to pixel/nexus phones.
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Any source to this?

Killua96 said:
Then jump immediately, they won't update to 7.1, they'll jump directly to Android O.
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Absolutely not. Android O Will be released too late for LG to keep this phone without the update. Android O Will probably be shipped on the next "V" device and the G6 will only see it next year.
My money is on 7.1 being the only "big" update we see this year
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
Absolutely not. Android O Will be released too late for LG to keep this phone without the update. Android O Will probably be shipped on the next "V" device and the G6 will only see it next year.
My money is on 7.1 being the only "big" update we see this year
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Lol have you ever followed the LG scene? Seems not.
As I already told LG never updates to this minor release, it is also one of the fastest OEM to release the major versions of android, G5 received Nougat officially on November.
Again, this is based on the past of LG, which are facts, not on rumors without source.

Killua96 said:
Any source to this?
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Just the various android blogs in passing. This is why I labelled it "Rumor" No need to get so pissy about it. It's not life and death.
Have a nice Sunday.

Barsky said:
Just the various android blogs in passing. This is why I labelled it "Rumor" No need to get so pissy about it. It's not life and death.
Have a nice Sunday.
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Not getting pissy here, I'm just trying to share my knowledge and my experience on LGs, as you said rumors are rumors, will see in the next months it some of those rumors is true.
Have a nice Sunday you too

Killua96 said:
Not getting pissy here, I'm just trying to share my knowledge and my experience on LGs, as you said rumors are rumors, will see in the next months it some of those rumors is true.
Have a nice Sunday you too
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Either way, an update to either will be nice and the sooner the better. But, to be honest, I am more concerned with gaining root/twrp. Being on a tmo model that is bootloader-unlockable out of the box, we usually get it sooner than later...at least on my prevous g2, g3, g4, g5.

Barsky said:
Either way, an update to either will be nice and the sooner the better. But, to be honest, I am more concerned with gaining root/twrp. Being on a tmo model that is bootloader-unlockable out of the box, we usually get it sooner than later...at least on my prevous g2, g3, g4, g5.
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Agree, if this year LG decides to make better updates releasing 7.1.1 for G6 i'll be pretty happy, this sort of things are always good, but well i don't have much hope for the reasons i've already explained xD
Root won't be a problem for Europeans H870, as always, but for the T-Mobile one, if it won't support the official unlock then you have to hope that devs find something similar to the findings on the G5 and V20, good luck :fingers-crossed:

Killua96 said:
Agree, if this year LG decides to make better updates releasing 7.1.1 for G6 i'll be pretty happy, this sort of things are always good, but well i don't have much hope for the reasons i've already explained xD
Root won't be a problem for Europeans H870, as always, but for the T-Mobile one, if it won't support the official unlock then you have to hope that devs find something similar to the findings on the G5 and V20, good luck :fingers-crossed:
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What is so annoying is they let us unlock the bootloader on the TMO model, but they strip out all the fastboot commands, which screws over. I believe the Euro mode still has the fastboot commands, but I am not sure.
But now we're getting way off topic. :-0 See you in the proper threads

Based on the updates I'm receiving on the Korean model, I'm optimistic about a 7.1.2 update coming in the fall maybe September.

scapeinator1 said:
Based on the updates I'm receiving on the Korean model, I'm optimistic about a 7.1.2 update coming in the fall maybe September.
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Is Korean model the one with DAC and 64GB internal memory? Do you live outside Korea?

Kukubski said:
Is Korean model the one with DAC and 64GB internal memory? Do you live outside Korea?
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Yes to both questions.

WstrKuNoužč said:
I don't think thats true. LG said they're gonna update to 7.1 to pre-production reviewers so they're probably gonna do it.
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it's funny to read this six month later and still no 7.1 for g6

(Within 2017)Moto Representative Confirmed O timeline for Z Play.

Moto has already released the list of devices getting O ,some weeks ago.
Today, I was with chat with the moto representative, trying to get to know the timeline for O Update in the Z Play.
And, yes she told that it will get Very Soon.
She is assuring that it'll definitely get it Very soon.
Then i reconfirmed the device and asked if it'll get before 2017,and yes it'll definitely get before (Within)2017.
Error: By mistake i have written "before 2017" actually it's "Within 2017".
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I'll believe when I'll see - Moto is not very trustworthy as for updates. I've been waiting for Moto X Force update more than half a year (to 7.x), my Wife is still waiting for that 7.x update for Moto X Play, so they promising a lot, but have problem with delivering...

Baronik said:
I'll believe when I'll see - Moto is not very trustworthy as for updates. I've been waiting for Moto X Force update more than half a year (to 7.x), my Wife is still waiting for that 7.x update for Moto X Play, so they promising a lot, but have problem with delivering...
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That is the case with Moto X force but it'll not happen with the Z Series as it was released by lenovorola and not Motorola.

Well, as a matter of fact, I don't really care - Oreo hasn't got any interesting, revolutionary or even evolutionary changes, that I'll be looking for. For me it should be 7.2, not 8.x.

I wouldn't count on that considering the fact how long it took them to update form 7.0 to 7.1.1 and that we're still lagging over a month behind with security updates. On the other hand, 8.0 has own set of issues now and sometimes it's better to wait for patched version than just rush things.

Exactly, some people are just bugging vendor to provide update ASAP and then complain about bugs. Ridiculous. I would rather wait for 8.1 or similar instead of stuck with 8.0.
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Well, not quite. If vendor is able and known for releasing fast updates then sure, update straigh away and then do small incremenetal ones as fast as possible as soon as bugs are found. That would be ideal. Sadly, this rule rarely apply here and vendors tend to release bugged firmware and then take another couple months to fix the problems.

Even you're not agree at first, later you explained exactly what I meant. Choosing between getting buggy 8.0 and then nothing for months or ever, or wait a bit longer and get bug free 8.x. I'm choosing second option.
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Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly, some people are just bugging vendor to provide update ASAP and then complain about bugs. Ridiculous. I would rather wait for 8.1 or similar instead of stuck with 8.0.
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I agree. It is better to wait for a bug fix. :good:

Well, he or she never confirmed the 2017, you just want to read it that way. What is confirmed, is the "soon" (Motorola-soon)
And I wouldn't give too much on the word of a support employee.

For sure will not get update "before 2017"
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Zeljko1234 said:
For sure will not get update "before 2017"
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Hehe it's "Before 2018".

Yash24 said:
Hehe it's "Before 2018".
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That is correct.

Baronik said:
Well, as a matter of fact, I don't really care - Oreo hasn't got any interesting, revolutionary or even evolutionary changes, that I'll be looking for. For me it should be 7.2, not 8.x.
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It removes FUSE, replacing it by SDCardFS! That means:
- All file system accesses will be faster (probably about 20%).
- The old bug not being able to set a timestamp is said to be gone.
This is a change which I'm hoping for since start of 2009 when they introduced that bug with Android 4.0, extending it to all file systems with Android 4.4. This is my main reason for rooting every device (beside easy backup possibilities).

Is there any soak test yet?

Is there ANY development towards official Oreo? A hidden soak test maybe?

M1810 said:
Is there ANY development towards official Oreo? A hidden soak test maybe?
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None that I know of

Honestly, I expected by now to have heard something, anything really, about a MFN beta or soak test for Oreo... but nothing, it's been pure crickets. I have little hope of Oreo being seen "soon".

acejavelin said:
Honestly, I expected by now to have heard something, anything really, about a MFN beta or soak test for Oreo... but nothing, it's been pure crickets. I have little hope of Oreo being seen "soon".
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I sometimes fear they will ditch g5plus too like moto g4.
I bought this device because of promised oreo update. And hoped treble would be possible with some tricks.
When i used moto e 1st gen i received soak test mail in mid Feb after a survey in Jan. Indian received soak test after brazil.
There has been no survey yet! Man i am sad!

ugupta100 said:
I sometimes fear they will ditch g5plus too like moto g4.
I bought this device because of promised oreo update. And hoped treble would be possible with some tricks.
When i used moto e 1st gen i received soak test mail in mid Feb after a survey in Jan. Indian received soak test after brazil.
There has been no survey yet! Man i am sad!
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They won't ditch our device.. if they promised oreo for the G4 plus it is guaranteed that we will receive it before it.
I'm being optimist and guessing that a hidden soak test is happening right now (a lenovo mod said that motorola was working ln oreo for the G5+, i guess he means in soak tests) and that in april we'll receive oreo.
That's my last stop, in may i'll be flashing 8.1.0 if nothing happens..
I mean, i left a Nokia phone at a nice price for this device, because i always loved motorola.. guess i'm done now, wether we receive oreo or not..

Only if your battery lasts out, then no reason for them to supply update, just wondering from the manufacture's point of view, might seem cynical but they only make money out of sales, not update's.
ps works for every manufacture, simple science, make product, produce money

M1810 said:
They won't ditch our device.. if they promised oreo for the G4 plus it is guaranteed that we will receive it before it.
I'm being optimist and guessing that a hidden soak test is happening right now (a lenovo mod said that motorola was working ln oreo for the G5+, i guess he means in soak tests) and that in april we'll receive oreo.
That's my last stop, in may i'll be flashing 8.1.0 if nothing happens..
I mean, i left a Nokia phone at a nice price for this device, because i always loved motorola.. guess i'm done now, wether we receive oreo or not..
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Lol... Keep your delusions. There made no "promise", only the normal blog statement back in September. If they said the G4 Plus would get it as well there is nothing saying the G5 has to get it first.
"Working on it" dies not equate necssarily to a hidden soak test, could just be on the dev teams daily morning meeting to do list. Soak test procedures are pretty well defined. About 30 days prior to beginning of soak test, a survey goes out to a group of MFN users, about 50% of that group will be selected for it. We almost always hear about both of these steps in the forums and on news sites, and so far nothing. The surveys usually prompt questions in the forums, and the initial beta releases to members of the group usually prompt release rumors even by Android news organizations.
Then a 30-45 day trial starts, if all goes well about 30 days after the test ends, the update is released. If it doesn't go well, it goes back to dev team and starts over with the same group. This can take a while, for the Moto X Pure it took almost a full year with Surveys and beta group selection beginning in Feb 2017 and the final Nougat roll-out completing in January this year.
I honestly do not expect to see Oreo until mid to end of Summer season at the earliest, but surprises happen.

acejavelin said:
Lol... Keep your delusions. There made no "promise", only the normal blog statement back in September. If they said the G4 Plus would get it as well there is nothing saying the G5 has to get it first.
"Working on it" dies not equate necssarily to a hidden soak test, could just be on the dev teams daily morning meeting to do list. Soak test procedures are pretty well defined. About 30 days prior to beginning of soak test, a survey goes out to a group of MFN users, about 50% of that group will be selected for it. We almost always hear about both of these steps in the forums and on news sites, and so far nothing. The surveys usually prompt questions in the forums, and the initial beta releases to members of the group usually prompt release rumors even by Android news organizations.
Then a 30-45 day trial starts, if all goes well about 30 days after the test ends, the update is released. If it doesn't go well, it goes back to dev team and starts over with the same group. This can take a while, for the Moto X Pure it took almost a full year with Surveys and beta group selection beginning in Feb 2017 and the final Nougat roll-out completing in January this year.
I honestly do not expect to see Oreo until mid to end of Summer season at the earliest, but surprises happen.
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The G4 plus was promised to get oreo, you can see on their official blog at the very end
And they said it will come later because it was not on their original agenda (like the G5+ was), so i'm right about the G5+ getting it first

M1810 said:
The G4 plus was promised to get oreo, you can see on their official blog at the very end
And they said it will come later because it was not on their original agenda (like the G5+ was), so i'm right about the G5+ getting it first
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Motorola's history here makes it hard to say their blog posts, the only "official" statements, are a promise, but I concede that they did actually use that term regarding the G4 Plus.
https://blog.motorola.com/2017/09/14/say-hello-android-oreo/
Their exact wording for the release timing was:
But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
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Although common sense says this means it's on the bottom of the pile in regards to getting the update, there is nothing that says it won't get it's update before any or all of the other devices.

M1810 said:
The G4 plus was promised to get oreo, you can see on their official blog at the very end
And they said it will come later because it was not on their original agenda (like the G5+ was), so i'm right about the G5+ getting it first
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It's Lenovo. They promise all kinds of things, and wait months until everyone else moved on or forgot about it and then they ditch the phone support, show a new phone to buy, same promises, only to be dumped the same way. I won't even think G5plus gets anything, I mean they still haven't updated the Z line and they are now ditching the X line. Who knows, maybe they gonna ditch the G or the Z next along with the promised updates and just tell you to buy a newer phone.
I wouldn't bet a penny on their words.

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It's Lenovo. They promise all kinds of things, and wait months until everyone else moved on or forgot about it and then they ditch the phone support, show a new phone to buy, same promises, only to be dumped the same way. I won't even think G5plus gets anything, I mean they still haven't updated the Z line and they are now ditching the X line. Who knows, maybe they gonna ditch the G or the Z next along with the promised updates and just tell you to buy a newer phone.
I wouldn't bet a penny on their words.
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You're wrong about the Z lineup. They are running Oreo soak tests for Z series

You can see now all the Z series and X series got Oreo.
Next is G series.

February Security update (Retin) is out now !

I'm glad there is finally something came when I clicked the update button after a long time. And here it is, February security update after skipping January and releasing it after mid March, what a great speed of updates. I was hoping for Oreo but Motorola wants to take their time I think. Expected to get Oreo by mid April or they'll just troll us by pushing a March security patch.

Update is of 57mb if you're wondering.

It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.

uchihakurtz said:
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's not about skinning, it's about priorities - Moto Z Play is almost 2-year non-flagship device, so you should be happy, that you'll get update. Moto Z2 Force, which is newest flagship is already on Oreo for some time...

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It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's 8.0 and as pointed out this phone is already old and a non flagship. Comparing this to a S8 is like comparing apples to oranges.

Apple is not on Android but oranges may be
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uchihakurtz said:
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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I read about project treble, it seems the problem with slow updates is vendor implementation. Lenovo just want to slow updates for older phones so people will get frustrated and buy their new phones. It's just a theory, maybe something else is the problem for slow updates. I think in couple of months they'll push last updates to MZP, no expectations for Android P because how slow they are pushing updates, it seems like they just want to get rid of their older devices. It's a common market parctice so I don't have any problem but thanks to XDA developers for making custom roms so users can enjoy new android in older phones too.

They used to be so fast when they were Motorola.. now they are a Lenovo company and SLOW AS HELL.

The phone feels snappier after this security update... maybe I'm dreaming

huma_dawii said:
They used to be so fast when they were Motorola.. now they are a Lenovo company and SLOW AS HELL.
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?

Zeljko1234 said:
But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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i m on second build

Zeljko1234 said:
But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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And how stable is 4th one? Less buggy then the 3rd one?

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And how stable is 4th one? Less buggy then the 3rd one?
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So far so good but I have to check bugs other users are reporting. Some bugs, like stability, battery drain, etc. are showing up after couple of days. It's not clever to install update, test few things and then report right away that everything works.

Zeljko1234 said:
So far so good but I have to check bugs other users are reporting. Some bugs, like stability, battery drain, etc. are showing up after couple of days. It's not clever to install update, test few things and then report right away that everything works.
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Whatcha mean? I see a ton of people doing just that.. I love the random unresponsiveness still.

Zeljko1234 said:
But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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newer build number please,

Here you go

My moto z play is RETEU. Why am I still on the December 2017 sesurity patch? Does anyone know?

formula2 said:
My moto z play is RETEU. Why am I still on the December 2017 sesurity patch? Does anyone know?
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Same

abhishekiswithyou said:
newer build number please,
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opn27.76-12-13

Oreo being rolled out for Moto G5

Just saw a Reddit post that mentioned that Oreo is currently being rolled out for the Moto G5! I wonder if that means that Oreo for our devices is right around the corner?

It Will be great! :laugh:

Link, bro?

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Link, bro?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-g5-plus-android-8-1-oreo-soak/

Hmm, not sure - the roll out for both G5S plus and G5 Plus Oreo have both been soak tests so far. I've not seen a mention of a general release so far.
It could be that Motorola are working on the Oreo update for our devices, I imagine we're not the highest priority at the moment, since we already had our major update. Still, let's see what happens.

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... since we already had our major update. ...
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NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.

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NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.
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The major update was nougat that this device received already(echo92 is correct). At the beginning it was shipped with marshmallow. Seems you bought the device while those promo materials were discussed around the world
You'll find already a lot of threads in this device forum discussing the Oreo topic.
Edit: something to read
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/motorola-promised-oreo-build-t3802976
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-getting-android-o-t3576948/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/oreo-g4-plus-t3673163
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-oreo-8-0-coming-to-motorola-t3660249

strongst said:
The major update was nougat that this device received already(echo92 is correct). At the beginning it was shipped with marshmallow. Seems you bought the device while those promo materials were discussed around the world
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This would be correct for any vendor that promises one major upgrade and had a history of doing so. But, Motorola was choice of many due to consistent security updates and at least 2 major upgrades, and not just that, they actually said that. So, you are right they gave one major update out of promised 2, but I didn't mean that I bought the device with Nougat.
My purchase date was 20-May-2016 which was the Amazon-exclusive launch date in India and got it in my hand on 21-May-2016. I have the device with one of my family members now as I upgraded to a different device.
Luring the updates and making customer buy due to that reason and denying or delaying later is not done. We don't have very strict consumer protection law here, otherwise there definitely would have been an update

vijay-in said:
NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.
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Nokia all the way. Really, they have very good phones, decently priced with the majority of them running Android One. If my G4 Plus were to die now, I'd probably get a Nokia 7 Plus or a 6.1.

corlatemanuel said:
Nokia all the way. Really, they have very good phones, decently priced with the majority of them running Android One. If my G4 Plus were to die now, I'd probably get a Nokia 7 Plus or a 6.1.
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Nokia do seem to be a good choice, one of the things I'm not keen on is their lack of an official bootloader unlock program. Granted, you can pay for an unlock key (to whom?) and the increasing security measures (e.g. Safetynet) are making unlocking more of a hassle, just at the moment there's not much support for custom ROMs or TWRP.