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LG have announced V20 will be released next month with 7.0 so this means we will definitely get 7.0 as well?
http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-of...to-come-in-september-with-android-7-0-nougat/
No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
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No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
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They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
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They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
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Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
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Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
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LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
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LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
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P.S. LG actually did update G3 with 6.0 February security patch and until July it had newer security patch than G4 LOL, even though 18 months passed in December 2015, although for some reason it wasn't available via OTA so I had to install LG update tool in order to get it.
By the way, have you tried LG Bridge to check whether there's an update available?
yes G4 get i think 15 december-16 april betwen the date
i hope so.. i think 5.02 and MM shouldnt exist LP has bugs and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
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Such as ?
and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
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Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?
I personally think we would get Android Nougat, only because of LG's update pattern.
Each Flagship goes on this pattern:
OTB OS & Second Sort of Big Update (not too many new UX features, but new android version) are within LG's 18 month support, and then there is a 3rd update which is the major update, which usually updates UX, Android Version, and adds a lot of new features.
Because of this pattern, the G4 should have one more major update before we stick to custom roms/security patch updates.
http://www.bing.com/news/apiclick.a...n-2016/165569&c=4819151737868183870&mkt=en-us LG has released several smartphones this year, but it is likely to release Android N first to LG G5. It is also speculated to bring the new firmware upgrade to LG V10 and LG G4 this year.
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Such as ?
Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
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such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
G2 was released with 4.2, and got upgraded to 4.4 and 5.0
G3 was released with 4.4, and got upgraded to 5.0 and 6.0
G4 was released with 5.1, and got upgraded to 6.0 and probably will get an upgrade to 7.0, I think.
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such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
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Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
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Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
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Exactly! The phone won't have to be still in Nougat for Doze to kick in.
The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
mingocr83 said:
The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
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Where did you get this information?
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Where did you get this information?
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This. I would like to know this too. No company announced 7.0 update list as of yet. 7.0 is not even out yet.
I do hardly believe that Moto X style/pure might get N but there is no official news about it...
I tweeted Moto_Us and Moto_India but got same reply that
"We currently have no info.. For more info kindly stay updated"
Even Moto/Lenovo didnt make any announcement..
Whats going on?
Anyone has ideas what the truth is??
no problem ..custom roms here :laugh::fingers-crossed:
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no problem ..custom roms here :laugh::fingers-crossed:
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Who has made any custom roms or what guarantee that who will make it??
Cm is already working on it.
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guarenteed will not be a problem. lol. gotta love the devs out there crankin roms and ports out. #unlockedbootloader
Voted no only because I'm doubtful we'll get it officially, but as the other people have said... custom roms bro.
I think it will get 7.0 by the end of the year. It got 6.0 pretty fast, and is still pretty much the flagship of Motorola. People just lost hope because of the ignored 6.0.1 update. I'm hoping to switch back to a Nexus anyway so I don't have to worry about updates anymore.
https://www.android.com/phones/
Being one of the few devices on official android site I think means we're getting 7.0 pretty soon
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https://www.android.com/phones/
Being one of the few devices on official android site I think means we're getting 7.0 pretty soon
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That site has been mentioned before... It has nothing to do with Nougat, just Android in general. The fact it appears there is not relevant.
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I think it will get 7.0 by the end of the year. It got 6.0 pretty fast, and is still pretty much the flagship of Motorola. People just lost hope because of the ignored 6.0.1 update. I'm hoping to switch back to a Nexus anyway so I don't have to worry about updates anymore.
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But is it still a flagship with the new Moto Z's coming out? Way things have gone with Lenovo I'd not put money on it BUT never say never.
Well, if they abandon any real support for this phone in one year, I won't be coming back to Lenovo/Motorola. I'll just have to decide if expandable memory is still a deal maker/breaker with the next gen and go Nexus or something else.
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Well, if they abandon any real support for this phone in one year, I won't be coming back to Lenovo/Motorola. I'll just have to decide if expandable memory is still a deal maker/breaker with the next gen and go Nexus or something else.
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Agreed!
Android 7 will be there!!!
With X-Style there aren't any technical/hardware issue or even a minor reason for not supporting the Android 7. So with this the liability of providing or not providing Android 7 will be with Motorola (Lenovo). Providing with Latest Android version being a USP of Moto phones, there is very chance that they will not risk reputation with this phone by excluding the update.
In-case this is not done for some reason then my steps would be:
1) Root and install Android 7 rom.
2) Buy a new Nexus phone.
3) Collect Invoice of all my Moto phone (Namely: Moto G (8gb), Moto G (16gb), Moto E (4gb), Moto G3, Moto G Turbo, Moto X Style).
4) Submit the collected Invoice plus the nexus invoice to Motorola with update as why they lost a loyal customer.
*Infact I was planing this for the delayed patch, and made my disappointment by tweeting the same to motorola. Were they assured me of early notification of update.*
[rant] motorola sucks/how to kill a perfectly good device
Motorola/Lenovo service has been horrible both in replacing defective hardware and with software updates even though they committed to timely release! They will probably at some point release Nougat on this device but really how long will it take (see where we are with MM updates!!) ? And as far as custom roms are concerned we're seeing so little developper activity for this device that I think everyone has already moved on! This was my first non-Nexus device in a long while and I'm not eager to duplicate the experience. It's really too bad as I really liked the Moto X pure. :crying:
Ffs these threads need to stop. Yes the Moto x pure 2015 will get 7. IT WILL TAKE TIME release of n is rolling out give it a few months
Guys good news
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_clark/tree/cm-14.0
Eta 3 Weeks i guess....
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https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_clark/tree/cm-14.0
Eta 3 Weeks i guess...
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Interesting, but that's CM.
I think people on this thread are wanting stock.
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Interesting, but that's CM.
I think people on this thread are wanting stock.
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true that but we dont have an official announcement abt update but do check this
http://www.alphr.com/google/1004331/when-will-i-get-android-n-on-my-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/pure-to-n-t3455057/post68785882
Silarn said:
Well, if they abandon any real support for this phone in one year, I won't be coming back to Lenovo/Motorola. I'll just have to decide if expandable memory is still a deal maker/breaker with the next gen and go Nexus or something else.
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The ZTE Axon 7 looks a lot like the X Pure, except with software support. They announced that they will be assisting Cyanogenmod.
The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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I totally agree with you. It would be especially a shame because Honor promised a 2 year Update guarantee.
I don't think we can do anything about this situation the only answer we would get would be a "We are always trying our best" and so on.
Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
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They will come...Just to don't make us too disappointed, I think.....And to reach the 2 years of support
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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I Agree, could be a way...
...In all this, i think that is more bad luck with the last Nougat API not supported than any laziness or few interess in the developing...
But I agree another time that if Huawei/Honor want to fight with the top brands, they have to start to better follow their devices, or at least to have a clear policy on releasing update; without confusion or heavy bugs over major release.
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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People buying Huawei are the ones not learning LOL
But the problem AFAIK is that Honor 7 soc won't support Vulcan, which is required to get a official nougat build from a manufactorer accepted by google.
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
android N is nothing diff to android 6
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I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
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From China, it is UL00 C17 variant.
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I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Good to know, if the China model had the upgrade usually the EU model will have it in acceptable timing.....
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If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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it sure is impossible to foresee for how long a smartphone will be supported, but huawei has given us plenty of reasons in the last years to at least doubt their policy.
p6, p7 were a real shame, especially being the latter a bit pricey for a huawei; p8, mateS and h7 are the latest victims. and these are just the ones I personally know about. only h6 has had a fairly good support, especially for the price.
now I'm not saying samsung is perfect, they are far from it... (and I don't want to take into account tablets because it's true, android pretty much sucks when it comes to tablets and updates... :/ ) but since you came up with the s3 model, well that was a very hardware limited model... one of the last pre-JB models, with 1gb of ram only... especially with KK all the 1gb models became obsolete... but if you take the lg g1 that was commercialised only 4-5 months later with 2gb, it lived long enough to be updated from ICS to JB and finally to KK.
LG G2-G3-G4 are all receiving small updates from time to time, even if they are mainly only security fixes, but honestly it's the same thing happening with iphones, old models don't get the new features, just small fixes.
same with S4-S5-S6; not sure about M7, but I can guarantee for M8 and M9. Xiaomi still updates a lot of models from 2012-2013.
final words: among the big ballers, there's just one brand that keeps fooling its customers, and that's huawei/honor.
h7/p8/mateS are all 2015 devices... 2015... and h7's support has been dead for 7 months already... it's a shame!
Honor 7 will never updated to android 7.0, mb will coming some minor updates from vendors, mb..Last hope is only developers) imho
yes, they have abandoned us. From now never buy honor product.
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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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Honor/Huawei
I had HTC phones in the past, then LG G2 and then changed to H7. I was very satisfied with it, because of smooth running, but when they announced that it wont get new update to nougat I was very dissappointed. Because it was clear then that there will be no updates, at least not any big updates. Its not old phone with good HW. And because of that I decided for iphone. No complaint till now, I have it for 6 months.
Answer AFAIK is nope, since Huawei/Honor only deliver one major update, and they did it "recently" (2016-09 according to their site) on Western Europe (PLK-L01) (probably the last wave who recieved it) with Android Marshmallow. But, the 5 and 6X recieved it.
Why couldn't samsung simply rip out the spen junk from the note rom and release it on our phones?
Because they're working on Oreo
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That's not a valid excuse, 7.1 came out in oct 2016, 7 months later the s8 was released with an os that came out in august 2016.
These are not midrange phones, we deserve better.
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That's not a valid excuse, 7.1 came out in oct 2016, 7 months later the s8 was released with an os that came out in august 2016.
These are not midrange phones, we deserve better.
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So what is your complaint exactly? You're angry about the fact that we didn't get a rom then, even though we're getting the latest version now? You knew about it, bought it, then came here to complain about it 7 months or so afterwards?
What was so important that changed from 7.0 to 7.1? I have a feeling you're just looking to whine about anything possible
My complaint is pretty clear, not sure why you can't see it.
When Android 7.1 was released, it was seen as a Nexus/Pixel exclusive with pixel-only exclusives. It's more surprising that the Note 8 did come with Android 7.1 than the S8 not getting an update. Most skinned manufacturers decided early on to skip 7.1 in favor of 8.0
Why didn't we get 6.1?
Samsung releases the major builds and frequent updates. We don't need stuff that's more suited for a pixel. If you're that concerned, buy a pixel.
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Why didn't we get 6.1?
Samsung releases the major builds and frequent updates. We don't need stuff that's more suited for a pixel. If you're that concerned, buy a pixel.
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Except Samsung did get the 6.0.1 update for devices.
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I had the S6 Edge +, that was long ago but I don't recall getting it for that device. Either way, obviously wasn't a big deal update
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So what is your complaint exactly? You're angry about the fact that we didn't get a rom then, even though we're getting the latest version now? You knew about it, bought it, then came here to complain about it 7 months or so afterwards?
What was so important that changed from 7.0 to 7.1? I have a feeling you're just looking to whine about anything possible
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Do we get 8.1 ?
Samsung only focus on main releases, 7.0 of samsung has all the stuff of the pure 7.1 with it's own UI
Pastorelli's said:
Do we get 8.1 ?
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What's in the 8.1 that you'll be sorely missing?
If you expect every point update, get a Pixel.
crixley said:
What's in the 8.1 that you'll be sorely missing?
If you expect every point update, get a Pixel.
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It was a only question because as you mentioned earlier that the latest version we will get. I do not miss anything
Pastorelli's said:
It was a only question because as you mentioned earlier that the latest version we will get. I do not miss anything
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Sorry I should have been more clear and misunderstood. By the time that 8.1 was out development on 8 would have already started.
Short answer. Do you seriously expect them to complile thousands of packages all over again for a version that changes basically nothing, only to do it all over again 2 months later for a major release?
thenessus said:
Short answer. Do you seriously expect them to complile thousands of packages all over again for a version that changes basically nothing, only to do it all over again 2 months later for a major release?
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Yes, that's their job, they dont get to take a year off after compiling one version of android. If they can release x.1 updates on the note they can do the same on the s8.
peachpuff said:
Why couldn't samsung simply rip out the spen junk from the note rom and release it on our phones?
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I had the S7 Edge, that was long ago but I don't recall getting it for that device. Either way, obviously wasn't a big deal update
I'm glad there is finally something came when I clicked the update button after a long time. And here it is, February security update after skipping January and releasing it after mid March, what a great speed of updates. I was hoping for Oreo but Motorola wants to take their time I think. Expected to get Oreo by mid April or they'll just troll us by pushing a March security patch.
Update is of 57mb if you're wondering.
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
uchihakurtz said:
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's not about skinning, it's about priorities - Moto Z Play is almost 2-year non-flagship device, so you should be happy, that you'll get update. Moto Z2 Force, which is newest flagship is already on Oreo for some time...
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It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's 8.0 and as pointed out this phone is already old and a non flagship. Comparing this to a S8 is like comparing apples to oranges.
Apple is not on Android but oranges may be
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uchihakurtz said:
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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I read about project treble, it seems the problem with slow updates is vendor implementation. Lenovo just want to slow updates for older phones so people will get frustrated and buy their new phones. It's just a theory, maybe something else is the problem for slow updates. I think in couple of months they'll push last updates to MZP, no expectations for Android P because how slow they are pushing updates, it seems like they just want to get rid of their older devices. It's a common market parctice so I don't have any problem but thanks to XDA developers for making custom roms so users can enjoy new android in older phones too.
They used to be so fast when they were Motorola.. now they are a Lenovo company and SLOW AS HELL.
The phone feels snappier after this security update... maybe I'm dreaming
huma_dawii said:
They used to be so fast when they were Motorola.. now they are a Lenovo company and SLOW AS HELL.
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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i m on second build
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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And how stable is 4th one? Less buggy then the 3rd one?
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And how stable is 4th one? Less buggy then the 3rd one?
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So far so good but I have to check bugs other users are reporting. Some bugs, like stability, battery drain, etc. are showing up after couple of days. It's not clever to install update, test few things and then report right away that everything works.
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So far so good but I have to check bugs other users are reporting. Some bugs, like stability, battery drain, etc. are showing up after couple of days. It's not clever to install update, test few things and then report right away that everything works.
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Whatcha mean? I see a ton of people doing just that.. I love the random unresponsiveness still.
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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newer build number please,
Here you go
My moto z play is RETEU. Why am I still on the December 2017 sesurity patch? Does anyone know?
formula2 said:
My moto z play is RETEU. Why am I still on the December 2017 sesurity patch? Does anyone know?
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Same
abhishekiswithyou said:
newer build number please,
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opn27.76-12-13