LG have announced V20 will be released next month with 7.0 so this means we will definitely get 7.0 as well?
http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-of...to-come-in-september-with-android-7-0-nougat/
No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
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No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
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They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
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They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
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Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
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Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
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LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
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LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
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P.S. LG actually did update G3 with 6.0 February security patch and until July it had newer security patch than G4 LOL, even though 18 months passed in December 2015, although for some reason it wasn't available via OTA so I had to install LG update tool in order to get it.
By the way, have you tried LG Bridge to check whether there's an update available?
yes G4 get i think 15 december-16 april betwen the date
i hope so.. i think 5.02 and MM shouldnt exist LP has bugs and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
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Such as ?
and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
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Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?
I personally think we would get Android Nougat, only because of LG's update pattern.
Each Flagship goes on this pattern:
OTB OS & Second Sort of Big Update (not too many new UX features, but new android version) are within LG's 18 month support, and then there is a 3rd update which is the major update, which usually updates UX, Android Version, and adds a lot of new features.
Because of this pattern, the G4 should have one more major update before we stick to custom roms/security patch updates.
http://www.bing.com/news/apiclick.a...n-2016/165569&c=4819151737868183870&mkt=en-us LG has released several smartphones this year, but it is likely to release Android N first to LG G5. It is also speculated to bring the new firmware upgrade to LG V10 and LG G4 this year.
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Such as ?
Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
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such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
G2 was released with 4.2, and got upgraded to 4.4 and 5.0
G3 was released with 4.4, and got upgraded to 5.0 and 6.0
G4 was released with 5.1, and got upgraded to 6.0 and probably will get an upgrade to 7.0, I think.
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such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
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Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
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Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
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Exactly! The phone won't have to be still in Nougat for Doze to kick in.
The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
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The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
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Where did you get this information?
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Where did you get this information?
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This. I would like to know this too. No company announced 7.0 update list as of yet. 7.0 is not even out yet.
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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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I totally agree with you. It would be especially a shame because Honor promised a 2 year Update guarantee.
I don't think we can do anything about this situation the only answer we would get would be a "We are always trying our best" and so on.
Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
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They will come...Just to don't make us too disappointed, I think.....And to reach the 2 years of support
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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I Agree, could be a way...
...In all this, i think that is more bad luck with the last Nougat API not supported than any laziness or few interess in the developing...
But I agree another time that if Huawei/Honor want to fight with the top brands, they have to start to better follow their devices, or at least to have a clear policy on releasing update; without confusion or heavy bugs over major release.
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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People buying Huawei are the ones not learning LOL
But the problem AFAIK is that Honor 7 soc won't support Vulcan, which is required to get a official nougat build from a manufactorer accepted by google.
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
android N is nothing diff to android 6
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I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
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From China, it is UL00 C17 variant.
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I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Good to know, if the China model had the upgrade usually the EU model will have it in acceptable timing.....
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If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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it sure is impossible to foresee for how long a smartphone will be supported, but huawei has given us plenty of reasons in the last years to at least doubt their policy.
p6, p7 were a real shame, especially being the latter a bit pricey for a huawei; p8, mateS and h7 are the latest victims. and these are just the ones I personally know about. only h6 has had a fairly good support, especially for the price.
now I'm not saying samsung is perfect, they are far from it... (and I don't want to take into account tablets because it's true, android pretty much sucks when it comes to tablets and updates... :/ ) but since you came up with the s3 model, well that was a very hardware limited model... one of the last pre-JB models, with 1gb of ram only... especially with KK all the 1gb models became obsolete... but if you take the lg g1 that was commercialised only 4-5 months later with 2gb, it lived long enough to be updated from ICS to JB and finally to KK.
LG G2-G3-G4 are all receiving small updates from time to time, even if they are mainly only security fixes, but honestly it's the same thing happening with iphones, old models don't get the new features, just small fixes.
same with S4-S5-S6; not sure about M7, but I can guarantee for M8 and M9. Xiaomi still updates a lot of models from 2012-2013.
final words: among the big ballers, there's just one brand that keeps fooling its customers, and that's huawei/honor.
h7/p8/mateS are all 2015 devices... 2015... and h7's support has been dead for 7 months already... it's a shame!
Honor 7 will never updated to android 7.0, mb will coming some minor updates from vendors, mb..Last hope is only developers) imho
yes, they have abandoned us. From now never buy honor product.
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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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Honor/Huawei
I had HTC phones in the past, then LG G2 and then changed to H7. I was very satisfied with it, because of smooth running, but when they announced that it wont get new update to nougat I was very dissappointed. Because it was clear then that there will be no updates, at least not any big updates. Its not old phone with good HW. And because of that I decided for iphone. No complaint till now, I have it for 6 months.
Answer AFAIK is nope, since Huawei/Honor only deliver one major update, and they did it "recently" (2016-09 according to their site) on Western Europe (PLK-L01) (probably the last wave who recieved it) with Android Marshmallow. But, the 5 and 6X recieved it.
where are the security updates for january and february 2017 for V20 H990DS???!!!
I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.
yep they're taking way too long with the updates...
I have the US996 unlocked version and we are also stuck on the December patch, hopefully we get something this month!
Hope they are working on a new build... Probably 7.1 not sure... LG won't delay this much without a reason... But as a buyer ... Its irritating and makes me to think different
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H990DS unlocked also still on december security patch! come on LG!
I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
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I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
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Yeah, especially considering the second screen doesn't work with aosp :/
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Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
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Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
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This is true and I sure hope so! I mainly use the second screen for a night clock and notifications since we lack a notification led.
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Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
My previous phone, P9 Plus already have the Feb. 1, 201 sec patch. Come on LG, unlock H990DS and update V20 to 7.1 already!!!! Or at least the latest security patch!!!!
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Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
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My Lg G2 had at least 4 years of support before it went capput. That is good of LG at east, just slow.
The LG G6 came pre-loaded with Feb Sec Patch, and still on 7.0
keep that in mind, we wont ever get 7.1 , if anything it will go to 8.0 next
Feb Sec Patch For Ls997 is out there but it seems like it got pulled, either to wait for G6 to launch or a issue with the code.
Either way, id be safe to assume there wont be 7.1 for us, but a jump from 7 to 8.
LG historically has skipped the .1 updates and just gone to the full fledged updates.
No update since 2016 December. Hope they will release some update in april.
yeah we can start adding march and april to the title...
Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
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Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
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yep, looks like the SEA version is always ahead with updates...
wondering if switching from TWN to SEA would be a good solution...
LG seems to put the V-series on the slow lane. V10 was very slow to get any kind of update. It is rumored they weren't even going to update the V10 to Nougat, leaving it as it is, but T-Mobile pressured them to update it to Nougat. I'm hoping they'll not let the V20 languish, but they're throwing everything at the G6, now, and letting the V20 become the "discount" phone.
No update yet for me. My phone is at V10d-AUS-xx.
When will LG rollout Android 7.1 update for LG G6 ? Will they give 7.1 or directly to Android O ?? Beacuse 7.1 has many improvements including battery optimization.
no we no
LG update only main version. and security patch...
But now big problem. lastest security patch april 1---
Flagship phone-Shame lg shame..
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no we no
LG update only main version. and security patch...
But now big problem. lastest security patch april 1---
Flagship phone-Shame lg shame..
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So now the LG users are doomed? The biggest security risks are the users themselves that downloads apk files of the Play Store grid and don`t read their rights when installing them And yes i`am sure we`ll get 7.1 and after that Android O.
Got the EU G6 delivered today. I really like the design and screen.
To my amazement it was running the April patch. I was assuming that LG had their updates working by now, like Samsung. Even my old Note 4 from 2014 gets regular updates and has the May patches. The G6 being a flagship phone and anything but cheap, this is unacceptable to me. Needless to say it's going back to Amazon tomorrow.
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Got the EU G6 delivered today. I really like the design and screen.
To my amazement it was running the April patch. I was assuming that LG had their updates working by now, like Samsung. Even my old Note 4 from 2014 gets regular updates and has the May patches. The G6 being a flagship phone and anything but cheap, this is unacceptable to me. Needless to say it's going back to Amazon tomorrow.
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So... this bothered you to the extent that you actually returned the phone? It runs good, has an excellent screen, top-notch camera, IP68 and so on, but screw all that - it's not sporting the latest security patch from Google.
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So... this bothered you to the extent that you actually returned the phone? It runs good, has an excellent screen, top-notch camera, IP68 and so on, but screw all that - it's not sporting the latest security patch from Google.
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Yes, the missing updates are the core reason and it goes to show that LG still doesn't care, just like Samsung once upon a time. Samsung has now understood and are much better at keeping their units up to date. And as you can see at least some customers do care.
Everyone has different priorities and having the manufacturer keep the software up to date is very high on the list for me.
As to the LG G6 itself - I do like it a lot. But the fact that they have cut more corners adds to the software dilemna.
Here in Europe we get no wireless charging and are stuck with a measly 32GB. The Asian model gets 64GB and is even 100 EUR cheaper (go figure) and would work in terms of the LTE frequencies. But as we know that one isn't unlockable which is the next move by LG I don't agree with.
And lest I forget, the Snapdragon 835 is a huge boost compared to the 821, that's another sub par feature of the G6.
LG and others like them are going to go the way of the Dodo if they don't keep up with the Jones's and release their units with tons of features missing and without proper software support.
Your first post only mentioned the security update being a month behind as your reason for returning it.
Now youre complaining about details that you knew (or should have known) before before deciding to purchase it.
What are these "tons of features missing"?
I'm talking about the 821 vs. the 835 the phone deserves. Then no wireless charging, lack of community support due to the bootloader only being open in certain regions.
I would have been fine with all of it but the software just did it for me.,
It's still a nice phone but not for me.,
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And it's not one month behind. LG gets the April update in March, by now they already have the July update. June is already out since Tuesday.
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Calm down now. Korean version supposedly allready got May security patch so we're gonna get it any time now.
Also, LG doesn't do "small" OS upgrades so no, we're probably not gonna get 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 but we will definitely be the first ones to be getting Android O which is right around the corner. That's how LG rolls.
WstrKuNoužč said:
Calm down now. Korean version supposedly allready got May security patch so we're gonna get it any time now.
Also, LG doesn't do "small" OS upgrades so no, we're probably not gonna get 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 but we will definitely be the first ones to be getting Android O which is right around the corner. That's how LG rolls.
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That's right! :good:
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g3-lg-g4-no-monthly-security-update/
Man im like wtf
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I know right. I'm tempted to get the LGv20, but I have a feeling that, this is it's last year getting updates
That's only said "No SECURITY Update."
G4 devices will get Nougat.. Waitingg..
Security updates?
Where and when?
LoL like we had security updates before. I only got 2 security updates since I bought it. There were never monthly security updates for the G4. I also starting to doubt for the Nougat update.
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LoL like we had security updates before. I only got 2 security updates since I bought it. There were never monthly security updates for the G4. I also starting to doubt for the Nougat update.
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I had taken 2 major android updates and maybe 5-6 security updates. My device is H815TR. Now I am using v20i Turkey Stock unrooted(it cannot be unlocked).
As far as know if you have flashed right country kdz firmware, you will certainly take security updates
It only says no security updates, but still, if the nought update does not come for a wider variety of the G4 models, i will be very annoyed at LG.
LG really sucks! They provide updates for V10 but not G4. Ridiculous..
I can't even unlock my bootloader ? AndroidOne phones ain't sounding too bad, right about now. (Updates)
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https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g3-lg-g4-no-monthly-security-update/
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Wtf sent from lg g4 nougat 7.0 f500k xdd
I'm still on stock 10o H810 at&t and waiting for nougat update. I can forfeit root for the nougat update. But till now. I'm unsure if we'll get it. I hope I'll get it. Really hope so.
have anyone asked what happened to the G4 N in Q3 in twitter account.?
Another preexisting thread on the same subject with more posts/information:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/official-nougat-g4-v10-q2-2017-t3567402
There is nougat beta for h815 which i use and full kdz for korean devices, so how technically u can say that there is no nougat? Chill, it will come out soon or later and it will be last update for g4 which is pretty old device in smartphone world. That said nougat beta is the best rom i had on my g4
Avantu said:
There is nougat beta for h815 which i use and full kdz for korean devices, so how technically u can say that there is no nougat? Chill, it will come out soon or later and it will be last update for g4 which is pretty old device in smartphone world. That said nougat beta is the best rom i had on my g4
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Yes, I also think it will come out.
But the G4 is just such an old device beacuse it took so long for LG to develop the Nougat update xD
Are we seriously to believe that LG is spending any time developing Nougat for the LG G4 (other variants) now that Oreo is out, and they are concentrating on their (new) phones which they are actually trying to sell now ?
I think we've been left in the dust - again.
LG-G4 H812 here.
See link in https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74035549&postcount=14
icemankent said:
Are we seriously to believe that LG is spending any time developing Nougat for the LG G4 (other variants) now that Oreo is out, and they are concentrating on their (new) phones which they are actually trying to sell now ?
I think we've been left in the dust - again.
LG-G4 H812 here.
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Monthly Security Update
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Are they serious, what are they talking about?! The last security patch I received was 1 year and 3 months ago... And this is on a carrier-free device which should receive the updates first, nice joke LG they probably don't even have clue that there's nothing going on.
Lol, 2018 is here.
Time to start breathing again - (if you were holding your breath, waiting for Nougat in 2017).
Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815
Djdjo59 said:
Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815
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I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.
Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.
Mr.FREE_Bird said:
I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.
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I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)
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I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)
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I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.
sbasil said:
Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.
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Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.
ZmisiS said:
I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.
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Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry
tulen_kobi said:
Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.
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I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
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Minto107 said:
Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
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I do care, that is why I am on AOSCP.
only way to get noticed would be to ask korean LG or at twitter LG ..
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Minto107 said:
Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
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same screw security LOL
Just vote with your wallet.
phonexpert_alex said:
Just vote with your wallet.
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By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.
cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.
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I haven't said that. I just meant to say that if the next wave of LG "flagships" have poor sales, maybe they will eventually do something about it.
Maybe they improve on their support, or on their quality control, I don't know.
In the short run, they will probably just ignore os.
But in the long run, if the sales figures go down and the number of support calls and/or device recalls go up maybe, just maybe, they will do something about it.
Who knows, maybe I will buy another LG product/phone if the quality and support of their devices will improve. But as it now stands, they are going down fast.
The latest sales figures already posted here are self explanatory.
LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck
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LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck
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I agree for the version, but not for root.
I tried with my nexus 4, I scre** it up. totally. And reading articles telling you that you have a lot of manipulations to root etc, no thanks... Except if you have a software that you install normally and boum... rooted.
I will see if the V30 will be released with oreo version. Which i doubt....