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Will we get Nougat 7.0?!

LG have announced V20 will be released next month with 7.0 so this means we will definitely get 7.0 as well?
http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-of...to-come-in-september-with-android-7-0-nougat/

No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.

Riardon said:
No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
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They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.

F-L-Y-E-R said:
They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.

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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
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Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.

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F-L-Y-E-R said:
Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
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LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.

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​LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
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P.S. LG actually did update G3 with 6.0 February security patch and until July it had newer security patch than G4 LOL, even though 18 months passed in December 2015, although for some reason it wasn't available via OTA so I had to install LG update tool in order to get it.
By the way, have you tried LG Bridge to check whether there's an update available?

yes G4 get i think 15 december-16 april betwen the date

i hope so.. i think 5.02 and MM shouldnt exist LP has bugs and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..

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LP has bugs
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Such as ?
and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
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Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?

I personally think we would get Android Nougat, only because of LG's update pattern.
Each Flagship goes on this pattern:
OTB OS & Second Sort of Big Update (not too many new UX features, but new android version) are within LG's 18 month support, and then there is a 3rd update which is the major update, which usually updates UX, Android Version, and adds a lot of new features.
Because of this pattern, the G4 should have one more major update before we stick to custom roms/security patch updates.

http://www.bing.com/news/apiclick.a...n-2016/165569&c=4819151737868183870&mkt=en-us LG has released several smartphones this year, but it is likely to release Android N first to LG G5. It is also speculated to bring the new firmware upgrade to LG V10 and LG G4 this year.

One Twelve said:
Such as ?
Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?
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such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%

G2 was released with 4.2, and got upgraded to 4.4 and 5.0
G3 was released with 4.4, and got upgraded to 5.0 and 6.0
G4 was released with 5.1, and got upgraded to 6.0 and probably will get an upgrade to 7.0, I think.

raptorddd said:
such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
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Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...

Quickdraw996 said:
Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.

raptorddd said:
yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
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Exactly! The phone won't have to be still in Nougat for Doze to kick in.

The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.

mingocr83 said:
The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
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Where did you get this information?

kouzelnik3 said:
Where did you get this information?
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This. I would like to know this too. No company announced 7.0 update list as of yet. 7.0 is not even out yet.

android nougat is out for sprint lg g5

today there are reports that the android nougat update for the sprint variant of the g5 is out.
https://plus.google.com/communities/109302847348648973506
just look in the community and you will see...
does anybody know anything about the EU update?

I can't believe a US carrier branded variant gets Nougat before the international unlocked H850. What happened to this world...

Me to. But so is... Sprint first with nougat... Incredible... Is confirmed.
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According of the news on Internet, yes it confirmed. Looks like spring is imba

LG gives a fu*k about int versions of their phones from LG G4. They'll get it about half of year after sprint version.

Never will buy a LG phone again, I read an article somewhere before that maybe int G5 nougat just coming in February 2017.

Yep, just got Nougat on my Sprint G5 this morning!

t.kijas said:
LG gives a fu*k about int versions of their phones from LG G4. They'll get it about half of year after sprint version.
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Totally that's why LG is mostly the one with the quickest updates for their flagships at least. And I'm pretty sure it will be at latest in December but head on of you are so pissed
mkdr said:
Never will buy a LG phone again, I read an article somewhere before that maybe int G5 nougat just coming in February 2017.
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Wonder where you got your news from.

lolmensch said:
Totally that's why LG is mostly the one with the quickest updates for their flagships at least. And I'm pretty sure it will be at latest in December but head on of you are so pissed
Wonder where you got your news from.
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Im pretty sure that i have seen exactly where he got that info from, and the site is far from trust worthy it will be out before the end of the year.

mkdr said:
Never will buy a LG phone again, I read an article somewhere before that maybe int G5 nougat just coming in February 2017.
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Then don't. No one forces you to buy LG phones. You are surely easy to be deceived by some man made no proof not official article from a common website.

I used to have worse experience with Motorola when it came to firmware updates
Honestly wasn't even receiving bug fix updates, at least in LG i do.
Nugget already was released in asia and now it's rolling to the sprint devices, I don't understand why everybody dont pay attention to the comments that were made by the people who actually recieved it..

I recieved the update as well

menace211 said:
I recieved the update as well
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Is it android 7.0 or 7.1?

Its 7.0.
Runs great! The autobrightness issue seems to have been fixed. The display brightens up smoothly now, and does not stay dark. There is a weird bug with the LG keyboard now though. If you click backspace, it does not stop erasing sometimes. I guess it registers too many button presses some how.
Still playing around with it though. Have yet to leave the house to test real world use.

Thought the international would of had it by now!

Any improve or bug in stock camera application?
Thanks.

Hello guys !
I saw few of you have official nougat update for G5. Do you have any news about nougat for everybody ?
Thanks

Snip3rPolska said:
Hello guys !
I saw few of you have official nougat update for G5. Do you have any news about nougat for everybody ?
Thanks
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So far only Korean G5 and Sprint G5 versions got nougat, including beta testers. My guess, by reading the news and taking a look at Lg release cycles for G4 from last year involving marshmallow, would be that the rest of us will be getting nougat somewhere between today and the end of December. And by rest I mean international g5 H850.

onestyle007 said:
So far only Korean G5 and Sprint G5 versions got nougat, including beta testers. My guess, by reading the news and taking a look at Lg release cycles for G4 from last year involving marshmallow, would be that the rest of us will be getting nougat somewhere between today and the end of December. And by rest I mean international g5 H850.
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I have hope they can give us the update before next year

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I have hope they can give us the update before next year
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They probably will. Patience is a virtue. And so far we got update after update for mm. So soon I'm guessing we'll get n too.

Nougat 7.0 will not available only G4 KOREAN VERSION

I live in south korea.
and I am using LG G4 KOREAN VERSION(F500L)
I have a bad news for korean version G4 user.
Korean version will not update official Nougat 7.0.
LG Customer service said to me, "We decided , We will not service nougat 7.0 sorry and 6.0 is stablized OS for G4 "
So, The korean G4 will not update nougat 7.0
It's very sad news and this news made me very angry
Cheer up all korean version G4 users!
And Please unlock F500's bootloader
... T_T
+LG V10 KOREAN VERSION will not service Nougat to same reason

댓글이 없네요 ㅠㅠㅠ 버려진 f500

fhssasss said:
I live in south korea.
and I am using LG G4 KOREAN VERSION(F500L)
I have a bad news for korean version G4 user.
Korean version will not update official Nougat 7.0.
LG Customer service said to me, "We decided , We will not service nougat 7.0 sorry and 6.0 is stablized OS for G4 "
So, The korean G4 will not update nougat 7.0
It's very sad news and this news made me very angry
Cheer up all korean version G4 users!
And Please unlock F500's bootloader
... T_T
+LG V10 KOREAN VERSION will not service Nougat to same reason
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can you ask them is there will be update to 7.0 for H815?

charlie123464 said:
댓글이 없네요 ㅠㅠㅠ 버려진 f500
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Read forum rules!
English only pls! Thanks!

I very much doubt any G4 will get official Nougat from LG.

Yeaaaa.. So i think it is the right time to say "Goodbye LG"..

If korean version not get Nougat, we sure that international not getting too.
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I think the same. Many low-end/mid devices from LG already got Nougat (LG Stylo 2 for example).
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Many people won't buy next phone from LG and sales will be lower because of that. In spite of many problems and terrible software updates G4 was not so bad. They want to sell new phones and have earnings but none of us will buy another LG phone after this. LG G4 had many hardware problems and they did another mistake with update policy.

Wtf LG **** you. I'll wait till April and I will go for something else. I bought this because of further updates and guess what. It won't receive any...
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Sad news!
I think I have to ditch the stock camera now ;(

Why I every time find out when I buy any new phone that there is any problem with upgrading, HW issues or whatever else? :/

They should at least unlock the bootloader on 81X models so that we can move on with custom roms.
I really enjoy the phone (815P) but it'll be the last one from LG for me.

I'm not sure if it's the final/legit information or just speculations but if that's true then I feel sorry for people who bought this phone and paid full flagship price for it... At least I bought it in 2016 and paid half price but one more time it proves that we shouldn't ever buy a new Android phone as soon as it gets released because of stupid update policy, never ever!!! Only in this way we can make them hear us and keep buying last years phones so their sales go down and maybe, maybe they will hear us, otherwise it will stay like this forever. I realized it long time ago, 3-4 years that OEMs don't give a **** about customers, all they care is marketing and sales, that's all I can say to you. Lets hope for the best but from what it looks like it's very unlikely as I personally received 2 updates in last year which only had new security patch...

Yes it pretty bad... Can't even supply updates for 2 years from Launch, which is a lot of peoples upgrade period.
I'm due an upgrade in May, but I can see me waiting for the next iteration of the Oneplus and jumping ship to that.

Not sure if legit, but anyway, if they dont stick to 2 major updates, i agree, byebye..

If there will be no update for G4 to Nougat 7.0 then I also have to say bye bye LG

You won't be neither first nor last... But we have custom developers for now so we could have Nougat this way.

Lg should think wisely bootloop then no updates they Will lose msny customers me included

hey, let's be positive.. maybe LG is too busy with their upcoming G6 until they forgot that G4 is actually existed..

daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
hey, let's be positive.. maybe LG is too busy with their upcoming G6 until they forgot that G4 is actually existed..
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I highly doubt about it. If they release G6, they will focus on G6, G5 and V20. There is even lower chance getting Android 7 N for G4 after G6 release.
G3 got Android 6.0 Marshmallow before G5 was released.

Android Oreo??

Does anyone know if the LG V20 will have the Android update of Oero??

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Does anyone know if the LG V20 will have the Android update of Oero??
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Lmao..... The v20 is still on 7.0...... Never even got 7.1.1.. I highly doubt it ever will! Honestly I think it is at its EOL!
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First of all this should be posted in the Q&A area as this is not any kind of development thread. Second LG hasn't announced if Oreo is coming to the V20 but I suspect it is within the next six months.

any idea why it was never updated to the latest version of nougat? is it because of the second screen?

batkinson001 said:
any idea why it was never updated to the latest version of nougat? is it because of the second screen?
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It is possible that they decided to focus their efforts on 8 instead (I hope).
Sent from my LG-H910 using Tapatalk

It'll be interesting to see LG's UX 6 on a device without 18:9 ratio, considering half the ux is based on this larger screen ratio.

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any idea why it was never updated to the latest version of nougat? is it because of the second screen?
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it's not new to LG. They never bump the software version of their device, just like the other previous LG device but still gets update. :good:

Lets eat some Oreos since this device aint getting one.. Stilll.on 7.0 smh

EnIXmA said:
Lets eat some Oreos since this device aint getting one.. Stilll.on 7.0 smh
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It's been reported to be on a list of devices that will get it.
https://theleaker.com/lg-android-8-0-oreo-update-phones-list/

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It's been reported to be on a list of devices that will get it.
https://theleaker.com/lg-android-8-0-oreo-update-phones-list/
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I think most of what the reporter was claiming is pretty much no-brainer. The V20 is near-certain to get Android 8 from LG. The G5 and V10 have got decent chances of getting Android 8, but they're questionable.

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It's been reported to be on a list of devices that will get it.
https://theleaker.com/lg-android-8-0-oreo-update-phones-list/
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It is mere a speculation of a reporter & not the official confirmation from LG.....

When will LG V20 H990DS most likely to get Nougat 7.1.2 & Oreo 8.x soon thereafter in India...???

Rumors says it'll

for those expecting 7.1 i dont think we will get it. lg has skipped versions in the past and oreo is likely around December time

now that the V30 is out. I hope we still get a few more major updates before we are rendered obsolete.

I expect us to get Oreo and Whatever comes after it because this phone was just released in October 2016. Therefore it will be 2 years in October 2018.
If LG does not update it up to android 9.0, they should be ashamed. No, really really ashamed.

The V10 shipped with Lollipop, then got Marshmallow, and after MUCH complaining got Nougat. I really don't think LG would be stupid enough to not offer Oreo, but then it is up to the carriers. However, when it comes to P(eanutbutter?) -- I think we are going to have to make a stink.
-- Brian

This is the closest V20 will ever get to Oreo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/74jo69/oreo_on_the_v20/

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The V10 shipped with Lollipop, then got Marshmallow, and after MUCH complaining got Nougat. I really don't think LG would be stupid enough to not offer Oreo, but then it is up to the carriers. However, when it comes to P(eanutbutter?) -- I think we are going to have to make a stink.
-- Brian
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Read recently it will be march-april 2018

It will definitely get it. There is no question that LG will upgrade the V20 to Oreo.

Petition for Android 7 G4 H815

Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815

Djdjo59 said:
Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
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I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.

Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.

Mr.FREE_Bird said:
I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.
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I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)

Djdjo59 said:
I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)
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I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.

sbasil said:
Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.
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Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.

ZmisiS said:
I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.
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Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry
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Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.
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I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
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Minto107 said:
Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
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I do care, that is why I am on AOSCP.

only way to get noticed would be to ask korean LG or at twitter LG ..
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Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
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same screw security LOL

Just vote with your wallet.

phonexpert_alex said:
Just vote with your wallet.
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By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.

cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.
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I haven't said that. I just meant to say that if the next wave of LG "flagships" have poor sales, maybe they will eventually do something about it.
Maybe they improve on their support, or on their quality control, I don't know.
In the short run, they will probably just ignore os.
But in the long run, if the sales figures go down and the number of support calls and/or device recalls go up maybe, just maybe, they will do something about it.
Who knows, maybe I will buy another LG product/phone if the quality and support of their devices will improve. But as it now stands, they are going down fast.
The latest sales figures already posted here are self explanatory.

LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck

Furma said:
LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck
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I agree for the version, but not for root.
I tried with my nexus 4, I scre** it up. totally. And reading articles telling you that you have a lot of manipulations to root etc, no thanks... Except if you have a software that you install normally and boum... rooted.
I will see if the V30 will be released with oreo version. Which i doubt....