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X10 Power Usage

Hey.
Got my X10 a few days ago,
And im the only one with a power problem ?
Having to recharge it alest once a day ?

My batteri drops aprox 12 % per hour, so I usefully charge 2 times a day.
Since 1AM to now (12AM) it went from 100% - 24%. And Ive been sleeping alot, so the phone hasent been muched used either.

What kind of usage are you partaking in? In my experience most smartphones have to be charged daily.
Here's a post from Esato Forums where someone did an extensive battery drain usage test:
http://www.esato.com/board/printpost.php?post=2933402

The last day Ive been using it minimally, and Im on my second charge for the day. All my other phone last 1 day (6am-12pm) before needing charging. But my X10 needs an aditional charge at about 2-3pm..... And even then is as good as empty at 12pm....
I hope its just a small software bug, or something that could be fixed with a reset. Im starting to enjoy this phone, but there are several days a week, I will not have the time to charge it a second time..
Think Ill go for that reset, and see if that helps....
Anyone else with X10, and batteries that drain extremmely quick?

Mine dies after about 8 hours, but this is usually normal with new batteries, it should be better after a few FULL recharge cycles.

TakenName said:
The last day Ive been using it minimally, and Im on my second charge for the day. All my other phone last 1 day (6am-12pm) before needing charging. But my X10 needs an aditional charge at about 2-3pm..... And even then is as good as empty at 12pm....
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Were your previous phones smartphones, just out of curiosity.
Also, you could try to reduce how often TimeScape polls in the background for updates. That might help.
My current iPAQ 910c lasts a full day if I do nothing but the occassional phone call and SMS. However, if I do anything power intensive the battery fails, and the phone is done until it can get 2 hours or so of charge. But that's why I'm looking to replace it... definitely not normal.

I have access to every phone I want.. And Ive only been using smartphones.
(Currently as in sign.).
I dont use timescape or mediascape, so they have been disabled.
And yet the battery only last for aprox 10 hours....
I never had a phone with such a bad battery, however, Ive never had a phone with such big screen or cpu either....
You gain some, you loose some.
And to he who talked about recharging cycles to maximize battery,
this kind of batteries dosent work that way... They are allready maxed..

I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.

roanmy said:
I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.
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I would not say that the my battery is good. but it is ok, i haven't had it fully charged yet, since I did get git yesterday. and it did last about 10 hours or so, from 60 or 70%. with playing music, trying out some things etc. but I worked 5,5 of these hours and was in the movie theater 2 of the other hours.
anyways, I haven't really had much problems with the keyboard either, as you said. the only thing that really buggs me is the damn space button. it is too small! :/ I wen't from an X1 to the X10 no, from using HTC magic before that. But I am starting to get really used to the other keys.
I haven't installed the latest build/patch either.

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Just download "spare apps" and see what apps som drain u battery
My X10 take only 6% on 3 hour on normal use

very very bad battery drain! Left mine on flight mode at 2AM with 50% battery left, before going to bed. Woke up at 11AM and the battery was dead with no usage nor cell connection!

massimax said:
very very bad battery drain! Left mine on flight mode at 2AM with 50% battery left, before going to bed. Woke up at 11AM and the battery was dead with no usage nor cell connection!
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A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.

ukon said:
A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.
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As I wrote before, phone was in standby on flight mode: it means that NOTHING was running nor any 3G data was exchanged. I've had many Android phones (Magic, Hero, Milestone, Nexus, Legend) and in similar conditions they lost only a couple of percentage points of battery, not 50% like X10!! I do love this phone, but heavy battery drains is driving me crazy (and it's definitely not a faulty phone, since I know many many users with the same problem)

roanmy said:
I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.
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I actually think the battery is good too. I recharge every other day, which seems to work fine.
I have bluetooth and wifi off, and mostly doing manual updates for timescape. I do surf quite a bit though, and no problems with battery drain. In my experience, my X10 lasts a lot better than a Satio for example.

Strange how half of the people posting here, have very good batteries (1-2 days), and the other half have extremmely bad batteries (8-12 hours).
I doubt the ones with the bad batteries are "worse user" then the ones with the good batteries......

I'm one of those with lousy battery usage. Hardly use the phone, but drains in no time. However I've ordered 4 new batteries, so gonna test all of them and see if there's a pattern.

Grrr.. Was just setting up my contacts to Facebook.. Took around 20 minutes and drained 21% of my battery.. That's just not okay..

I just left it for 2 hours without doing anything and the battery from 90% dropped to 65%. This is not cool at all. SE we need a solution ASAP.

I'm one of those that get bad battery duration on the X10. I usually leave BT and WIFI on as I did in my N97. By observing who drains most of the battery, I get around 30% for the radio in standby and 20% for BT. The processor is only a small percentage (2%) so I don't belive that the snapdragon cpu can be blamed for bad battery duration. How is it possible that Nokias as the N97 having the same communication hw (GPS, WIFI, 3G, BT...) last for days with similar usage and battery capacity? Ok, the procesors are ony half the speed but I don't belive this makes so much difference...
I own a HTC Nexus also and has slightly better battery duration than the X10 but way far form the N97. I've roorted the phone and can change the CPU speed. It makes very little difference on battery duration if you set 400 or 300MHz instead of 1GHz.
So, it seems what makes all android devices so power hungry is the way the OS handles the communication interfaces, I belive most RF chipsets should have similar power drain and CPU's are idling most of the time. Perhaps symbian has a smarter algorithm to hanlde 3G/GSM/WiFi switching and no services polling the network when the phone is in your pocket.

ukon said:
A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.
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So seeing i am in an area that does not have 3G I will have a problem with battery drain bcuz it will be constantly be trying to connect to HSDPA?

Atrix Battery Life

I have been letting a couple of days go by to see how the battery is and I have got to say that I am highly not impressed. I love the phone and even like Blur but the battery is really a let down. I know that the first day or so that I use the phone heavily because of course.. ITS NEW. But today I have been real busy at work and have maybe text a few people, made 2 calls, and looked up a number using google maps and my battery is now down to 60%. In battery manager, it says 5h 2m 25s since unplugged which would be me taking the phone off the charger this morning and heading to work. Other stats are:
Display 35% 29m 52s
Phone Idle 26% 4h 32m 47s
Voice Calls 24% 6m 45s
Cell Standby 11% 5h 4m 5s
Wi-Fi 6% 1h 51m 56s
From looking at these battery stats and usage, does it even seem correct to be at 60% battery? This is at the least very minimal usage for a phone.

Yet another battery thread... One thing before people start complaining: don't estimate battery life based on battery gauge! Complain once the battery is dead and you HAVE to charge. That's the real mileage you'll get from your battery (and give it a few days to calibrate). The gauge is not a good indicator.

I am a new Atrix user too and so far the battery life is 12hrs or less. Maybe that is not impressive. Coming from the N1, its alright in my book.
I do want to say to everyone complaining about the battery life:
It can take a week or more for the battery to settle into the routine and perform to its maximum ability. Lets start the conversation again later next week on where our battery is at.

Yesterday I got 13 hrs between unplugging the phone, and getting the 15% warning. Not all that bad. Not great, but definitely could be worse.

mine has yet to drop below 30% and im pretty much browsing the web and texting all day. I dont care what kind of phone you have but making voice calls and playing games/watching videos kills battery with a quickness no matter how big a battery you have. . The atrix in my personal usage is just as good as my ip4 was.

the atrix was very good on battery life compare to other android phones i've had

Have the Atrix and Epic 4G and the Atrix lasts easily twice as long as the Epic.
I have to keep he Epic pluged in for my hour comute with pandora, just to make sure I have enough battery to make it for the trip home. Normal usage during the day with brightness all the way down, wifi off, BT off, sync On.
Had the Atrix today (day one after full night charge, unpluged at 6:30a), kept BT On, WiFi On, Brightness 100%, Sync On, Exchange Sync On, Auto off/standby set to 15 minutes, Pandora on via BT for my hour trip (unpluged), forest Live Background, Weather Widget etc.,downloaded everyting I could think of/find, constant e-mail, and constant "whatsApp" till noon (lunch), wache YouTube Videos for my whole hour lunch (still full bright mind you). Created 10 minute Install Video with 720p for work, then uploaded via WiFi, not USB. More Texing, Calls and Downloads. .... FINALLY haed to plug it in at 2:30p, with 5% battery left, I think I could have made it till 3 for sure.
That's a full 8 hours of NonStop Use of everything. I expect to get Morning-Night life from normal usage.
Final word. Test it first. I did and it's Great, not just good. The receiving end of all my texts and e-mail blasting and video look ups has an iPhone. He had to charge his at 2:30 too, but has his iPhone set to max battery save (brightness 15%, wifi off, sync off, etc.) But was using as intensly as I was
... okay I'm done ...
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Well I must have a bad battery or something then because I am not doing nearly half the stuff that you are doing and am now at 30%. Is there any special charging methods or anything that I should try to squeeze out a few more hours on this puppy?

playin4sheezy said:
Well I must have a bad battery or something then because I am not doing nearly half the stuff that you are doing and am now at 30%. Is there any special charging methods or anything that I should try to squeeze out a few more hours on this puppy?
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may be you have several internet connected background service running behind the scene?

My attitude towards the battery is a mixed bag.
1) PRO: It blows away the battery for the Eris (which I'm coming from)
2) CON: As these phones come to be computers with phone capability, it's really time for manufacturers to try their hardest for better batteries. I'd eagerly accept a phone twice as thick as this one if it meant double the battery life.
I find mine is only good for 10 hours (much less with heavy usage, but low calling time). I expected more.

snlu178 said:
I am a new Atrix user too and so far the battery life is 12hrs or less. Maybe that is not impressive. Coming from the N1, its alright in my book.
I do want to say to everyone complaining about the battery life:
It can take a week or more for the battery to settle into the routine and perform to its maximum ability. Lets start the conversation again later next week on where our battery is at.
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I really call bull on this.
Coming from the world of Airsoft, I'm no stranger to battery performance.
Most of these performance myths are hold overs from the Ni-Cad days and don't apply to modern batteries.

Call Bull all you want. But it was true to the N1 and so far its been true to my battery. It does not last the first few days and gets better after a few charge cycles.
Frankly, everyone believes whatever they want on batteries. I for one take it as a user by user experience. I watch my battery life a lot, but I also like to have Google Reader and Google Listen syncing.

I'm at 30% right now and 12 hours unplugged. What I wouldcall moderate use. Its not as good as my captivate on custom rom / kernel but its far from bad enough.for me to complain about
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Andriod sucks the battery, bigger battery on Atrix didn't help much. Google need to optimize the OS for better battery management. I am disappointed coming from Samsung Focus & iPhone 4, both have superior battery life. BTW, I am on Day#4, conditioning the battery didn't help any so far..

Within Range
Looking at all the comments - I would say the Atrix is within range -- I knew when I saw the 1950 mAh (or whatever the exact spec) that the tegra processor must really be a power hog -- the new processor, along with the huge screen is going to draw a lot of power. Comparing to other phones with single core processors and screens even 20% smaller is not reasonable.

Definitely a good point... going to be interesting to see how well other dual core are going to hold up. That will be a better comparison.

Is that battery really a 1930mAH? The size looks like any 1500mAH battery isn't it?

I managed to get close to 16 hours of 'normal' use, meaning I wasn't trying to drain it, nor was I trying to conserve battery. I took the phone off the charger at 3pm and made it all the way to 2pm the following day with about 20% left. That's 23 hours, but I subtracted out the time the phone was on while I was asleep, 8 hours (nighttime mode).

Hmm hearing all these replies i believe i have a defective battery. I unplugged mine today at 5:15AM and now it's 2:18PM and it's just gave me the 15% beep. I've sent about 25 texts and played some words with friends. I've got watchdog installed and no apps seem to be out of control. I'm wondering if a factory reset would fix the issue or if i should return it.

True2TheGame said:
Hmm hearing all these replies i believe i have a defective battery. I unplugged mine today at 5:15AM and now it's 2:18PM and it's just gave me the 15% beep. I've sent about 25 texts and played some words with friends. I've got watchdog installed and no apps seem to be out of control. I'm wondering if a factory reset would fix the issue or if i should return it.
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try going to your dialer and entering *#*#INFO#*#*
Look under the battery usage and check the different items. Is anything using a significant amount? it could be a rogue app.
I will say MotoBlur has a lot running in the background. About twice as much as vanilla android.
I have turned most of this off and I do know that is helping my battery life.

[Q] How often do you charge your simple touch

How often do you charge your rooted nook simple touch? after i rooted mine after reading on it for about 6 hours for 2 days, my battery dropped to about 78%. Is this normal or my battery draining too fast? also when nook goes to sleep mode it doesnt drain battery right?

It kinda depends on if I'm using it a lot during school. If I have the WiFi enabled and I'm taking notes with a lot of screen refreshes, then it ends up at about 50-70% battery at the end of the day, at which point I either charge it that night or the next. Other times when I don't use it for much other than writing down homework, it doesn't go down too much. I haven't charged mine for a few days and it's at 40% right now.

I don't charge mine all that often depends on just what I'm doing with it. If it's got wifi on it's a couple of days, if I'm just reading or not using it it's a lot longer. I intend to eventually do a battery test of not using it, using it without wifi, and using with wifi, but it could be months before it gets finished (or started) since I don't have multiple nooks. lol

I've only done testing for 10 hour stints, but here's what I've noticed:
With wifi off and the unit mostly sleeping, it uses about 0.14% battery per hour.
With wifi on and the unit mostly sleeping, it uses about 0.9% battery per hour.
With the wifi on and using the unit furiously, it uses about 8% battery per hour.
I haven't had the unit long enough to develop any "typical" daily patterns yet. I did set up Tasker to only turn on wifi when select apps are run, and shut it back off when they close. This seems to give me the best of both worlds.
So to answer the question, I charge it when it gets low (< 30%). How long that takes varies based on usage.

It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?

brendan10211 said:
It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?
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Make sure your wifi isn't needlessly running say when you're reading.

brendan10211 said:
It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?
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A lot depends on how many screen refreshes you're doing, and network/wifi usage. If you're rebooting a lot, and raiding the Market, it will go more quickly.
Try just letting it sit unmolested for a bit and see if it levels out. With wifi off, mine is barely sipping power when in standby.
You also could be seeing bogus calibration. It's not dead until it's dead, regardless of what the gauge says. I've had Android devices blasting audio for 3 hours when the gauge read 1%. I'd give it a few more days and charge cycles before worrying too much. I think many of us panic when our battery doesn't last long the first few days, forgetting that we're playing with it constantly.
Of course, if you're still seeing poor battery life after a few days, definitely take it in for an exchange!

Ok. I charged it to 100% last night and then turned it off when it completed. This morning, I turned it on, and it has been on for a total of 4 hours. 2 of these hours were in standby, a half was reading, and the rest were taking notes and chatting with friends. Two hours were spent with the wifi on and two were spent with the wifi off. It is at 90% now. I think the part about misreading the level is what happened to me.
On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?

brendan10211 said:
Ok. I charged it to 100% last night and then turned it off when it completed. This morning, I turned it on, and it has been on for a total of 4 hours. 2 of these hours were in standby, a half was reading, and the rest were taking notes and chatting with friends. Two hours were spent with the wifi on and two were spent with the wifi off. It is at 90% now. I think the part about misreading the level is what happened to me.
On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?
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I use Battery solo widget. Its very good and get the job done

brendan10211 said:
[...] On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?
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When I'm in compulsive battery tracking mode, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro ($) for the graphing features. It allows me to go back and compare a week's worth of battery performance data. I also get a good feeling when I glance at it and battery availability has been flat for an extended period.
There's a free version, but I don't recall how useful it was.
Once I'm comfortable with things, I plan on removing it and any other monitoring tools, as they do consume some battery themselves.

Thanks. Will have to check that out.

Official Idol 3 Battery Thread

I figured we could get this started, so we can start to post stats and screenshots once you finish initial setup/installation and get into regular daily use.

went to bed last night with the idol at 75%. woke up and it was still at 75% to my surprise. (and I did the update right out of the box, for anyone wondering.)

Seem to be great, can't wait fort mine

The phone arrived at around 40-45%. Spent around 2 hrs updating/installing/customizing stuff which was enough to drop the battery to 15%. Mind you that almost all factory settings were still there like vibrate on almost everything and sound on almost everything. Battery was fully charged rather quickly. I had around an hour of SoT before going to bed with around 80-75%. I woke up to a 70% battery after 10 hrs ( I slept in).
I think battery on mine could be improved by turning down the Google Now settings. It is the most power hungry in the battery stats at 9%. Oddly, the location icon is almost always on even if I'm not doing any location related tasks. I'm hoping to look into this more and fully test the battery tomorrow when I go to Sta. Cruz.

The Idol 3 just won't die! I'm using it around the house. Haven't actually put a sim card in it yet, so that might explain some of the great battery life that I've been getting. But this is the first full power cycle after getting it on Saturday. Auto brightness, full sync. I had to stop at 11% so I could do a charge test today. But I have no doubt that this 11% could have gotten me another hour of screen on time. Tons of streaming Sirius too over the front facing speakers (like 5 hours). Very impressed so far. The price is justified by the screen and the speakers alone in my opinion. Add great battery life to the mix and it's a pretty special device IMO.

Charging time is done. Used an Anker 2.0 Quick Charge (just to make sure it got the maximum it could handle). Went from 11% to 100% in 2 hours and 28 minutes. Not too shabby considering how long it holds on to the charge.

Bettery drain while on wifi
Hi, I have bad battery drain while on wifi. What I noticed is that cell signal goes from empty to full while unlocking screen. It goes up to 10% per hour. But when I was away from home for few hours on lte, it was very minimal. Any ideas? Software bug or maybe some app is causing that? Thanks!

czaplin said:
Hi, I have bad battery drain while on wifi. What I noticed is that cell signal goes from empty to full while unlocking screen. It goes up to 10% per hour. But when I was away from home for few hours on lte, it was very minimal. Any ideas? Software bug or maybe some app is causing that? Thanks!
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Did you do the update that appeared as soon as you turned it on out of the box? I had the phone on wifi all weekend (it never left the house) and the battery life was amazing. See my posts above. And I did the update first thing when I got mine.

lordlittlebrooks said:
Did you do the update that appeared as soon as you turned it on out of the box? I had the phone on wifi all weekend (it never left the house) and the battery life was amazing. See my posts above. And I did the update first thing when I got mine.
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Yeah, that's the first thing I did. Today I'm on LTE all day long and battery is amazing. But when on Wi-Fi my cell signal goes to emergency back and forth. Maybe my phone is a lemon
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I should have checked the battery life before loading all my apps but I forgot. During sleep hours I only have the wifi, auto sync and phone antenna enabled. I also either use the adaptive brighness at 50% or have the brightness set to about 20% with adaptive disabled. The first night I checked the battery overnight usage it was down 16% in 10 hours. That was also runny 3 apps on the notification area. The drain comes to 1.6% per hour. The next night I removed the 3 apps that run in the notification area and the drain was 10% in 8 hours, which comes to 1.25% per hour. That's better than my old phone but I still think it's too high. No apps are open in the recent apps screen.
Is anyone getting better or worse? I would like to compare my battery drain with everyone else.
Edit: I did disable Wifi Network Notification and Scanning Always Available. I'm not sure what kind of effect they have on the battery though.

czaplin said:
Yeah, that's the first thing I did. Today I'm on LTE all day long and battery is amazing. But when on Wi-Fi my cell signal goes to emergency back and forth. Maybe my phone is a lemon
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Did you wipe your cache after the OTA update? I remember my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 had temporary issues with battery life that were cleared up by a wiped cache/factory reset.

macallik said:
Did you wipe your cache after the OTA update? I remember my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 had temporary issues with battery life that were cleared up by a wiped cache/factory reset.
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No I did not. I guess this is my last resort now. I will check tonight. Meh...

czaplin said:
No I did not. I guess this is my last resort now. I will check tonight. Meh...
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It didn't work. That's too serious issue for me. Sending back to amazon. I'll stay with my G3 and 6000mAh battery. Waiting for G4 price drop

czaplin said:
It didn't work. That's too serious issue for me. Sending back to amazon. I'll stay with my G3 and 6000mAh battery. Waiting for G4 price drop
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I have the HTC m8 and g3, had the m9...
I think you have a problem with Google apps...Because with the m8 I had 7 hours screen on time in 24 hours, 6 hours with the m9, 5 hours with the g3...
And every reviewer criticizes the bad battery life of the g3 vs the very good battery life of the idol[emoji2]
HTC m8 s on + insertcoin

Yesterday was my first battery experience day. I have to say it turned out pretty good. I got roughly 16hrs from 100% charge down to 15% charge. I got a battery warning when i was headed to bed. Throughout the day, here's a list of the things I did in general to give a scope on usage:
* I had all services on, LTE, Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS (High precision)
* i used it to read a kindle book. I had my screen set at about 80% brightness the whole day.
* I have "Automatic" app which uses the phone GPS to track my drives to and From work.
* I ran with Runkeeper GPS
* also streamed music to and from work on my wohle commute (roughly 45 minutes).
* Then throughout the day did normal checking of various apps and websites, and notifications.
* In general during the work day I don't use it much from 9-5, except maybe to check it once an hour , and read a little.
Previously on my Nexus 4, I would have had to have it charging all the way to work. Then charging all the way home, and many times it wouldn't make it to bed time without another charge. With the Idol 3, i didn't put it on a charger once throughout the whole day. Pretty awesome.

This is my second full day. I expect that it will improve after a few cycles but I have absolutely nothing to complain about. WiFi on most of the day. 2 Gmail accounts syncing, Bluetooth on, display only at 50%, (not to save battery, but just because I don't need it any higher)
I have a few small hiccups with the DTTW but it isn't terrible.
P.S. This blows away my Zenfone 2 in battery life.

Battery life is ridiculously good. Charging my phone is no longer a pressing issue for me nowadays. Personally, I am indoors most of the day so I have set my screen brightness to 0% and it is perfectly fine. When I am outdoors, I will pump up the brightness to 100% which increases the battery consumption noticeably.
I've had the phone for a week and a half and still have never gotten down low enough for Battery Saver mode to kick in.

For me battery hold amount of charge EOD.
100% in morning around 10 AM.
1. wifi/4g ON all the time.
2. GPS during commute to work and vice-versa
3. Music app for 1.5-2 hrs.
4. played game for 2 hrs.
5. normal browsing.
Now @ 7 PM : still 45% left.

For those still unhappy with the battery life here are a few free apps that can help:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.gpo.greenpower&hl=en [ Battery saver...does things like only keep wifi on periodically to check for hotspots and only turn on bluetooth when charging etc ]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite&hl=en [ Adjust screen brightness based on light levels ]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keyes.screebl.classic [ Keeps screen on when phone is held in upright position but quickly turns screen off when phone is placed flat ]
I use the pay versions of these and consider them worthwhile.

Does anyone know how the automatic brightness works or if its even useful to have it on
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Doze Performance

So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?

1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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Soundfreak82 said:
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow

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aamir123 said:
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil

Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
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Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.

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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
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that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.

How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA
Otherwise try as @PhilipL suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.

Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
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aamir123 said:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil

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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.

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aamir123 said:
Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Phil

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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Phil
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Adaptive brightness less than 50%

I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil

PhilipL said:
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil
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Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.

When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.

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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.

I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.
Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.

Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
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