I figured we could get this started, so we can start to post stats and screenshots once you finish initial setup/installation and get into regular daily use.
went to bed last night with the idol at 75%. woke up and it was still at 75% to my surprise. (and I did the update right out of the box, for anyone wondering.)
Seem to be great, can't wait fort mine
The phone arrived at around 40-45%. Spent around 2 hrs updating/installing/customizing stuff which was enough to drop the battery to 15%. Mind you that almost all factory settings were still there like vibrate on almost everything and sound on almost everything. Battery was fully charged rather quickly. I had around an hour of SoT before going to bed with around 80-75%. I woke up to a 70% battery after 10 hrs ( I slept in).
I think battery on mine could be improved by turning down the Google Now settings. It is the most power hungry in the battery stats at 9%. Oddly, the location icon is almost always on even if I'm not doing any location related tasks. I'm hoping to look into this more and fully test the battery tomorrow when I go to Sta. Cruz.
The Idol 3 just won't die! I'm using it around the house. Haven't actually put a sim card in it yet, so that might explain some of the great battery life that I've been getting. But this is the first full power cycle after getting it on Saturday. Auto brightness, full sync. I had to stop at 11% so I could do a charge test today. But I have no doubt that this 11% could have gotten me another hour of screen on time. Tons of streaming Sirius too over the front facing speakers (like 5 hours). Very impressed so far. The price is justified by the screen and the speakers alone in my opinion. Add great battery life to the mix and it's a pretty special device IMO.
Charging time is done. Used an Anker 2.0 Quick Charge (just to make sure it got the maximum it could handle). Went from 11% to 100% in 2 hours and 28 minutes. Not too shabby considering how long it holds on to the charge.
Bettery drain while on wifi
Hi, I have bad battery drain while on wifi. What I noticed is that cell signal goes from empty to full while unlocking screen. It goes up to 10% per hour. But when I was away from home for few hours on lte, it was very minimal. Any ideas? Software bug or maybe some app is causing that? Thanks!
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Hi, I have bad battery drain while on wifi. What I noticed is that cell signal goes from empty to full while unlocking screen. It goes up to 10% per hour. But when I was away from home for few hours on lte, it was very minimal. Any ideas? Software bug or maybe some app is causing that? Thanks!
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Did you do the update that appeared as soon as you turned it on out of the box? I had the phone on wifi all weekend (it never left the house) and the battery life was amazing. See my posts above. And I did the update first thing when I got mine.
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Did you do the update that appeared as soon as you turned it on out of the box? I had the phone on wifi all weekend (it never left the house) and the battery life was amazing. See my posts above. And I did the update first thing when I got mine.
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Yeah, that's the first thing I did. Today I'm on LTE all day long and battery is amazing. But when on Wi-Fi my cell signal goes to emergency back and forth. Maybe my phone is a lemon
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I should have checked the battery life before loading all my apps but I forgot. During sleep hours I only have the wifi, auto sync and phone antenna enabled. I also either use the adaptive brighness at 50% or have the brightness set to about 20% with adaptive disabled. The first night I checked the battery overnight usage it was down 16% in 10 hours. That was also runny 3 apps on the notification area. The drain comes to 1.6% per hour. The next night I removed the 3 apps that run in the notification area and the drain was 10% in 8 hours, which comes to 1.25% per hour. That's better than my old phone but I still think it's too high. No apps are open in the recent apps screen.
Is anyone getting better or worse? I would like to compare my battery drain with everyone else.
Edit: I did disable Wifi Network Notification and Scanning Always Available. I'm not sure what kind of effect they have on the battery though.
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Yeah, that's the first thing I did. Today I'm on LTE all day long and battery is amazing. But when on Wi-Fi my cell signal goes to emergency back and forth. Maybe my phone is a lemon
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Did you wipe your cache after the OTA update? I remember my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 had temporary issues with battery life that were cleared up by a wiped cache/factory reset.
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Did you wipe your cache after the OTA update? I remember my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 had temporary issues with battery life that were cleared up by a wiped cache/factory reset.
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No I did not. I guess this is my last resort now. I will check tonight. Meh...
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No I did not. I guess this is my last resort now. I will check tonight. Meh...
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It didn't work. That's too serious issue for me. Sending back to amazon. I'll stay with my G3 and 6000mAh battery. Waiting for G4 price drop
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It didn't work. That's too serious issue for me. Sending back to amazon. I'll stay with my G3 and 6000mAh battery. Waiting for G4 price drop
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I have the HTC m8 and g3, had the m9...
I think you have a problem with Google apps...Because with the m8 I had 7 hours screen on time in 24 hours, 6 hours with the m9, 5 hours with the g3...
And every reviewer criticizes the bad battery life of the g3 vs the very good battery life of the idol[emoji2]
HTC m8 s on + insertcoin
Yesterday was my first battery experience day. I have to say it turned out pretty good. I got roughly 16hrs from 100% charge down to 15% charge. I got a battery warning when i was headed to bed. Throughout the day, here's a list of the things I did in general to give a scope on usage:
* I had all services on, LTE, Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS (High precision)
* i used it to read a kindle book. I had my screen set at about 80% brightness the whole day.
* I have "Automatic" app which uses the phone GPS to track my drives to and From work.
* I ran with Runkeeper GPS
* also streamed music to and from work on my wohle commute (roughly 45 minutes).
* Then throughout the day did normal checking of various apps and websites, and notifications.
* In general during the work day I don't use it much from 9-5, except maybe to check it once an hour , and read a little.
Previously on my Nexus 4, I would have had to have it charging all the way to work. Then charging all the way home, and many times it wouldn't make it to bed time without another charge. With the Idol 3, i didn't put it on a charger once throughout the whole day. Pretty awesome.
This is my second full day. I expect that it will improve after a few cycles but I have absolutely nothing to complain about. WiFi on most of the day. 2 Gmail accounts syncing, Bluetooth on, display only at 50%, (not to save battery, but just because I don't need it any higher)
I have a few small hiccups with the DTTW but it isn't terrible.
P.S. This blows away my Zenfone 2 in battery life.
Battery life is ridiculously good. Charging my phone is no longer a pressing issue for me nowadays. Personally, I am indoors most of the day so I have set my screen brightness to 0% and it is perfectly fine. When I am outdoors, I will pump up the brightness to 100% which increases the battery consumption noticeably.
I've had the phone for a week and a half and still have never gotten down low enough for Battery Saver mode to kick in.
For me battery hold amount of charge EOD.
100% in morning around 10 AM.
1. wifi/4g ON all the time.
2. GPS during commute to work and vice-versa
3. Music app for 1.5-2 hrs.
4. played game for 2 hrs.
5. normal browsing.
Now @ 7 PM : still 45% left.
For those still unhappy with the battery life here are a few free apps that can help:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.gpo.greenpower&hl=en [ Battery saver...does things like only keep wifi on periodically to check for hotspots and only turn on bluetooth when charging etc ]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite&hl=en [ Adjust screen brightness based on light levels ]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keyes.screebl.classic [ Keeps screen on when phone is held in upright position but quickly turns screen off when phone is placed flat ]
I use the pay versions of these and consider them worthwhile.
Does anyone know how the automatic brightness works or if its even useful to have it on
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Rather than clogging up other threads with my battery experiences, I thought I'd summarise where I'm at, and see how other people are doing with their battery life.
So I started yesterday on a full charge, and by 2ish the phone was dead. I used it fairly heavily, but wifi was off. I don't think I made any phone calls, and didn't use gps. It was mainly messaging and using the xda app. I had changed my screen brightness to auto the night before, so thought this might have reduced the battery life.
I then left the phone off, and charged through till just before 5pm. At this stage, the phone was up to between 90-100% charge. My intention was to see if I could get through to this afternoon on this charge. Last night I made a phone call for about half an hour, and used gps for about 10 mins driving in the car. Other than that it was a bit of messaging and browsing, but not heavy use by any stretch of the imagination. I had wifi off, facebook sync every 4 hours, and screen brightness set to about 50%.
This morning I woke to less than 10% charge on the battery, so have left the phone at home charging, and I'm back to my hero...at least for the morning.
I must admit, I'm starting to get concerned, because I really don't think I'm using this phone more than my Hero, and I could easily get a day out of it (unless I was going for a long run using some kind of gps app).
What are other people's experiences? I'm surprised I'm not hearing more about this, and I'm hoping mine is just a one off!
**UPDATE**
Today, 12 hours after taking my phone off charge, I have just under 20% charge remaining. The phone is now on it's fourth cycle, and although I haven't used the phone quite as heavily as yesterday, I have still used it quite a bit and have had WiFi on the whole time. This is still not amazing battery life, but it is still much improved. It definitely illustrates that the battery may take a few charge cycles before it optimises itself.
My first full day was yesterday.
WiFi on all the time. Screen brightness set to automatic. Twitter and facebook refreshing every hour. Weather every 4 hours.
Unplugged the phone at 7am, 100% charge.
During the morning I flashed the phone twice (due to the proximity sensor issue) so it probably recieved an extra 10 mins of charge.
Following the flashing, WiFi went straight back on so I could download all the apps again, and resync sense and all the contacts. There was some playing of games, some use of Google Goggles (so camera use there) and some web browsing.
By 13:00 I was down to 90% battery - which was pretty good I thought.
Through the afternoon I didn't get to use the phone much apart from a couple of short gaming sessions.
By 17:00 I was down to 80%. I got home from work and played around on the phone until my wife got home and we went out for a meal. The pub we were in had no signal, and I didn't really play around with the phone.
By the time I got home and went to bed, the phone was probably around 65% full.
So not a heavy day of use, but not far off a standard day for me - so not too bad as far as I'm concerned. Certainly about 30% better than my Touch Pro2 was!
I think we need to define a consistent way to measure battery life for Android.
Something like ACID test for web ... Quadrant for benchmark ...
I don't know, maybe we can agreed on something how to measure it. Or build an app to simulate phone usage which user should run it continuosly and then at the end got the result: Your battery life is rated 4 hours, 10 minutes straight using this test.
Probably not the best measurement, but it should give us a "number" to compare with other devices.
I can only suggest (I am not a developer), but I believe there are a lot of talented coders here in XDA which should be able to build this kind of "standard" app battery measurement pretty easily.
Somebody is recommending 3-4 full charges cycles for battery optimization. Do you think it will really help?
Battery is really deal breaking issue for me.
very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
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very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
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My friends also lasted over a day with pretty good use, there seems to be better results with the brightness on auto...from what I have picked up on the forum...maybe a test is need to see how much difference there is between full brightness on one battery charge and auto on the other.
Yupe, the battery benchmark should not be so complicated.
Start the app with 100% Battery life
Some options in the app (for features that might NOT be in an Android phone or might not be available at the time?):
[ ] Turn on Wifi
[ ] Turn on GPS
[ ] Turn on Bluetooth
Set the app to WAKE all the time, display turned ON all the time of the test
Set Keyguard to OFF (device will not be locked)
Set Brightness to AUTO
Set all speakers to SILENT
Set vibration to OFF
Then loop until battery down to 5%, perform the below tasks in sequence:
* Play movie for 15 minutes [speaker muted]
* Browse to website??? be careful not to overload the website
* Doing arithmatic
* Doing 3D
* Play MP3 [speaker muted of course]
As soon as the battery down to 5%, app stop and display result ...
And of course restore all the settings.
The app should use generic API that is supported by Android, not some hacky wacky if you know what I meant.
Please if someone can code this, that would be very nice! Standard XDA Battery Measurement app for Android!
jiidaineko said:
very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
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gogol said:
Yupe, the battery benchmark should not be so complicated.
Start the app with 100% Battery life
Some options in the app (for features that might NOT be in an Android phone or might not be available at the time?):
[ ] Turn on Wifi
[ ] Turn on GPS
[ ] Turn on Bluetooth
Set the app to WAKE all the time, display turned ON all the time of the test
Set Keyguard to OFF (device will not be locked)
Set Brightness to AUTO
Set all speakers to SILENT
Set vibration to OFF
Then loop until battery down to 5%, perform the below tasks in sequence:
* Play movie for 15 minutes [speaker muted]
* Browse to website??? be careful not to overload the website
* Doing arithmatic
* Doing 3D
* Play MP3 [speaker muted of course]
As soon as the battery down to 5%, app stop and display result ...
And of course restore all the settings.
The app should use generic API that is supported by Android, not some hacky wacky if you know what I meant.
Please if someone can code this, that would be very nice! Standard XDA Battery Measurement app for Android!
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the app should log the result too.. since some phone is dead by time 5% due to calibration..
@Dazultra2000: I would almost trade the proximity sensor problem for the battery life you're getting!
In any case, I'm gonna leave my phone charging till half an hour after the green light comes on, then I'm gonna try another day of normal usage. I'm going to turn wifi back on, as I usually would, and set screen brightness to auto.
With my Hero I used to go for runs using a GPS app to log the route, I'm not going to bother trying that with this phone until I'm sure I can survive a day.
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I then left the phone off, and charged through till just before 5pm. At this stage, the phone was up to between 90-100% charge. My intention was to see if I could get through to this afternoon on this charge. Last night I made a phone call for about half an hour, and used gps for about 10 mins driving in the car. Other than that it was a bit of messaging and browsing, but not heavy use by any stretch of the imagination. I had wifi off, facebook sync every 4 hours, and screen brightness set to about 50%.
This morning I woke to less than 10% charge on the battery, so have left the phone at home charging, and I'm back to my hero...at least for the morning.
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I don't know when you wake up but that could be like 14 - 15 hours that you mentioned which possibly isn't all that bad (plus the extra 10% you had remaining). Personally I want to see what it's like when you unplug it at 8am, not at 5pm the night before since I can't see any good reason not to leave the phone charging over night anyway.
If you then manage to get about 10 to 12 hours or so then there probably isn't much issue. Granted you weren't using it while asleep so the battery shouldn't drain overly quick but I wouldn't want to use your test as an example of a days use.
Thanks for the info but. If I was you I'd just have a car charger too if you like to use GPS...I can't see any reason not to.
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I don't know when you wake up but that could be like 14 - 15 hours that you mentioned which possibly isn't all that bad (plus the extra 10% you had remaining). Personally I want to see what it's like when you unplug it at 8am, not at 5pm the night before since I can't see any good reason not to leave the phone charging over night anyway.
If you then manage to get about 10 to 12 hours or so then there probably isn't much issue. Granted you weren't using it while asleep so the battery shouldn't drain overly quick but I wouldn't want to use your test as an example of a days use.
Thanks for the info but. If I was you I'd just have a car charger too if you like to use GPS...I can't see any reason not to.
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Yeah, I would normally charge overnight, but since I had given a charge through to 5pm I wanted to see how it lasted....see if I could get through 24 hours. I wake up at 5am, so that was around 12 hours, with only 5-6 of those hours being time when I would've actually been using the phone. This is also bearing in mind that I had started yesterday on a full charge and the phone was dead by 2pm.
The GPS thing in the car was only to do a quick test, literally 10 mins. I need to buy a new car charger with micro USB, but I just made a note that I had done this because I knew it would affect the battery.
Anyway, we'll see what today brings.
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Looking forward to it.
And yeah, for me personally a "days" charge really only needs to equate to about 12 - 14 hours. Thats probably the longest I'll go without having a charge anyway unless I'm camping or something in which case I'll likely fall back to a Nokia anyway.
Hi, just to add my experience with a complete different phone e.g. iPhone 3GS (developing apps on it, now switching to Android ):
Charge at night till 8 a.m. so 100% then usually in a day:
- Go to office, read/write emails, surf a bit on forums, blogs and so on
- Make call up to 30-60 minutes per day
- Play some games, test our application/games on it (so connect and receive some extra charge)
- Use WiFi at office
- Use Google Maps up to 15 minutes per day
- Back at home at 8 p.m.
- Use again emails and surf on web for 30 minutes
Around 11-12 p.m. it has less than 25% of battery, so 14-15 hours of usage drain battery up to finish it, not to mention that I'm forced to switch off push notification because they drain my battery in 5 hours!!!!
So just to say that, no one is perfect, and this devices today really do a lot of stuff, I think as Smigit suggest 12-14 hours are acceptable.
Have also tested/used iPhone 4, I don't seen any big improvements on that side.
Just my two cents...
praying for decent battery, please please please!
My HTC legend is pretty poor really, but I can live with it. If DHD is worse I don't think I can pull the trigger.
There is a thread in th Legend section about 1800mh HTC batteries (from another phone) that fit the Legend. Maybe there will be an option to do something similar with DHD.
I would pay £50 more for a 1500mh battery - why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
GeoMil said:
why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
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LOL, that's why everyone wonders
GeoMil said:
praying for decent battery, please please please!
My HTC legend is pretty poor really, but I can live with it. If DHD is worse I don't think I can pull the trigger.
There is a thread in th Legend section about 1800mh HTC batteries (from another phone) that fit the Legend. Maybe there will be an option to do something similar with DHD.
I would pay £50 more for a 1500mh battery - why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
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can anyone confirm that the 1800mAh for Droid Incredible (that fits HTC Legend) fits desire HD too???
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can anyone confirm that the 1800mAh for Droid Incredible (that fits HTC Legend) fits desire HD too???
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maybe a photo or model no(if any) of battery can help us?
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maybe a photo or model no(if any) of battery can help us?
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maybe no.. cuz its slided up.. ive just noticed while watching the vid.. hurm.. good luck for us waiting for a 1800mAh then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il1NBIJdx5M
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...d-battery-for-htc-legend-bb00100-1800mah.html
No the battery doesnt fit with the Desire HD, if you watch some pictures of your 1800mah battery and than go and take a closer look at the DHD's battery, you will recognize that the pins of the DHD-battery are on its side. the pins from the Incredible Battery are on the bottom.
In 2 hours 30 min heavy heavy heavy use, the battery dropped 20%.
Will do a full day test 2 morrow.
Bought a AT&T Nexus S yesterday. I was using it last night, getting it all set up, battery drain seemed to be about normal. I put it on the charger overnight and took it off at 7:40 this morning. By the time I got to work a bit before 8 it was at 94%, when I pulled it out at 9, it was at 73%. Restarted the phone, but by 9:30 it was in the high 50s. Checked battery use stats, didn't see anything out of the ordinary. Figured one of the apps I installed last night was running rampant so I did a factory reset at this point. Checked back about 20 minutes later, it had dropped into the high 40s, so I tried another factory reset just to be sure, and when it was done resetting.....the battery was showing at 7%!
At this point I just turned the phone off in case I needed it working to make a call or something. Turned it on at lunch to check for mail/missed messages, used it for maybe 2 minutes with the battery still showing 7% and turned it back off. Tried to turn it on around 3 o'clock and the phone was completely dead, it refused to turn on at all. The only strange thing I noticed was that the back of the phone, above the google logo but below the camera was warm to the touch. Any ideas what's going on with the phone?
The Nexus will only charge to 94-98%. If you haven't done a few charge cycles yet, give it some time.
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The phone shouldn't be able to consume the battery that fast. Normally I'd recommend troubleshooting, but since you just got the thing you might as well just replace it.
Well I bought it from someone who bought it last week. I messaged him asking him to get me a copy of the receipt in case I need to exchange it and he's not sure he knows where it is so that might not be an option. I'm charging it now, I guess I'll just see how it works tomorrow.
The battery life was crap on my nexus s for about week and a half. But after that the battery life got better and better and now as long as I'm not syncing my exchange account my phone will go from 6:30am to 10-11pm and still have 30-40% battery left.
Side note, anyone know why the corporate exchange account draws so much battery?
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The battery life was crap on my nexus s for about week and a half. But after that the battery life got better and better and now as long as I'm not syncing my exchange account my phone will go from 6:30am to 10-11pm and still have 30-40% battery left.
Side note, anyone know why the corporate exchange account draws so much battery?
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Which technology is used to keep the corporate exchange acc in sync by Android/Google? If it ain't the same as gCal, gMail, gContacts etc then there's your reason.
I do think it's some kind of idling process, which takes obviously more power then a push-type of thing.
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Which technology is used to keep the corporate exchange acc in sync by Android/Google? If it ain't the same as gCal, gMail, gContacts etc then there's your reason.
I do think it's some kind of idling process, which takes obviously more power then a push-type of thing.
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Its the native program on the nexus s I'm using and I have it set to check only once an hour. But if I have it active or set to fetch once an hour it doesn't change how much more of the battery is used. But when I use it I'm lucky if I leave work with more than 50% of my battery left. Delete the account from my phone and I leave work with 80-85% battery left.
drain the battery a few times, then charge it to full. its normal seeing this kind of drain at first. it6 needs to be "calibrated".
mess with your display settings. lower the brightness and take it off auto. Turn the timeout to like 15/30 secs and see if that helps.
How hot is hot? Mine gets warm occasionally but spends most of its day in my pocket, but not hot.
Battery was much better today, still shorter than it should be, but I'd rate it as "android normal", especially since it hasn't been power cycled at all. It's down to about 25% after 10 hours off the charger, and I'm assuming it will get better, as others have said, after a few charge cycles.
For those asking how hot I was talking, it's the same spot that gets warm when you charge the phone, but it was noticeably warmer than it gets when charging, and like I said it stayed that way the whole day until it died.
Also depends on the charger, I bought a new charger, not the normal one you get with the phone, but a different one, still samsung though, and for the first time it charged to F !
Normally I would get up to 94% with normal charger
furthermore my battery life is excellent, can use it all day with 30% left. Using, cm 7.1.0 rc and matr1x 5.5 kernel
I experienced sometimes extreme battery drain, too. Fortunately I could figured out 2 reasons:
- Always: Kick Ass battery drain while logged in to Latitude, horrible!!! My full loaded Nexus S ran out of battery within 6 hours!!!! Thats not acceptable.
- Rarely, when Facebook App has problems and keeps the device awake in the background. By the Way, FB App for Android is crap!
To have I workaround, I do not use Latitude any more. A Log off out of Latitude could solve the extreme battery drain. FB problem, as I said, is very rare.
Just over a week since I received my ns4g.....been calibrating for 3 days now. Hoping to start to see some better results soon. Right now its averaging about 10% drop per hour, with moderate use. Nothing synced. No widgets. Display at 25%. Cm7 nightlies, matrix 5.5 bfs and proton uv at recommended setting.
I usually use my phone alot so I ordered an extra battery and charger just to make sure I always have enough juice. Would prefer to get an extended battery, but I couldn't find any case/holster combos that would work....
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Define "with moderate use". Because 10%/h is kinda crazy seeing you are pretty much runnig at max batt saving settings unless you doing at least 20mins of webbrowsing/actually working or playing with the phone per hour on average.
I discovered something interesting today. Charging the battery in the NS never gets past 94/95% (safety feature i've been told).
I received the 2 x battery and external charger dealio i bought on eBay ($9.99 ) and started charging one of the batteries. Fully charged i put it in the NS and the charge read 100%. So i put stock battery in the external charger and when it was fully charged i put it in NS and it read 100% as well. It's been 3 hrs on the hong kong eBay battery and i'm down to 89% (average loss of 3% / hour), definitely better than stock battery so far. Will evaluate and see which battery holds up more.
Also, the Go Launcher task manager thingy always shows a butt-load of apps just "running" in the background, stuff i haven't even launched at all, and they annoy me to no end.
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Define "with moderate use". Because 10%/h is kinda crazy seeing you are pretty much runnig at max batt saving settings unless you doing at least 20mins of webbrowsing/actually working or playing with the phone per hour on average.
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About 10-15 mins perusing forums, reading up on the news and reading tweets. Maybe a few texts. Have had to restrain myself from doing much more than that per hour. Usually use it more, at least I did on my last two phones ....that's why I had a 2800 mha batt for my evo and an extra batt for my optimus......
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I received the 2 x battery and external charger dealio i bought on eBay ($9.99 ) and started charging one of the batteries. Fully charged i put it in the NS and the charge read 100%. So i put stock battery in the external charger and when it was fully charged i put it in NS and it read 100% as well. It's been 3 hrs on the hong kong eBay battery and i'm down to 89% (average loss of 3% / hour), definitely better than stock battery so far. Will evaluate and see which battery holds up more.
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Sounds like the same ones I ordered today......keep up with an update! Hopefully they do the job.
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bmwjnky said:
Its the native program on the nexus s I'm using and I have it set to check only once an hour. But if I have it active or set to fetch once an hour it doesn't change how much more of the battery is used. But when I use it I'm lucky if I leave work with more than 50% of my battery left. Delete the account from my phone and I leave work with 80-85% battery left.
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Polling your exchange every hour uses way more battery than setting it to push notifications. Also if you get 100 corp emails a day then its gonna be consuming more battery than if you get 5-10 emails/day. I use exchange with push and it barely registers on my battery usage.
Day 2 since my phone killed itself in less than 4 hours, battery seems to be draining normally again today so I guess it was just a glitch.
At least I think it's normal even though it seems high to me. Took the phone off the charger and the battery status read 95%. Locked the phone and checked back exactly 1 hour later and it was at 90%. Is that normal, 5% an hour just idling? The only account I have syncing is my google account, and my gmail isn't very busy. I have twitter, facebook, google+ installed but none of them are set to sync. Checked what was using the battery and the top was cell standby, followed by android system, followed by phone idle.
Get Battery monitor widget and have a look at your history. That'll give you an idea about whether it's actually going to sleep when it should. You also need better battery stats and find out if you have apps keeping it in wakelocks.
My Battery drained from 100% (it was fully charged, then I unplugged it and locked it) to 75% overnight.
What are some likely causes of this?
I noticed you have no signal. Constantly searching for a signal will drain the battery...
I've only had my N4 for a few days but the battery life has been good so far. A couple of brief observations...
1) On wifi only overnight (no SIM as I just got it and didn't have a micro yet) for 7+ hours. ZERO % drain...
2) On LTE (2-3 bars) for the past 3 hours. I left the phone and came back later. ZERO % drain...
Gmail is push, no GPS or BT. Only core apps running. I don't normally have anything in the back ground outside of lightflow...
Download GSam battery monitor
I noticed this also. I never had that much drain with my Galaxy Nexus.
I went out to lunch. Sent a few texts with google voice and looked up some random food articles on wiki for a few minutes. I was gone for 1-1.5 hours and now my battery is down to 47% from 75% this morning.
I'm going to download GSam and see what I get from there.
Edit: Installed GSam.
Attaching results from it.
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I went out to lunch. Sent a few texts with google voice and looked up some random food articles on wiki for a few minutes. I was gone for 1-1.5 hours and now my battery is down to 47% from 75% this morning.
I'm going to download GSam and see what I get from there.
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Charge it fully tonight, unplug it in the morning, and then post your GSam results tomorrow night after a day of usage.
Mine has started loosing charge overnight too.
It won't turn of wifi when asleep either. Since I activated Google Now.
Mine lost 5%in 4hours overnight. Nothing running apart from mail and now notifications.
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My Battery drained from 100% (it was fully charged, then I unplugged it and locked it) to 75% overnight.
What are some likely causes of this?
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Your android OS usage is terribly high. That's my first suspect.
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My android OS usage is very high as well... sometimes higher than the screen. I'm gonna try turning off google now to see if that does anything but other than that I have no idea what would be causing that...
The screenshots show app usage as being 50%+.. It is probably a rogue app you have running in the background.
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As I said before, I believe it's some Google apps, I deleted a bunch of Google apps I don't use. My phone sleeps like a baby now. Overnight it only went down 2%.
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I had the same issue for a couple of days. I would wake up to my phone only having 65% charge and the device would be rather warm. In my situation, I found that the charger was faulty. I noticed at times it would cause the phone to flicker back and forth from charging to in use. Lucky for me, I don't sleep well at night and I found the issue after my phone had been plugged in for 5 hours in the middle of the night. With that said, I also noticed the charger would make a high pitched hum/hiss. I swapped my charger out for my old Iphone 4 charger and I haven't had an issue.
Nearly a full day's results.
I left my phone charging from night until morning. I unplugged my phone sometime around 10-11am and I stepped out around 12:30.
It's 5:52 pm now.
I was out from around 12:30 to around 5ish. At around 5 my phone had 50-56% battery left. My friend's Iphone 5 had 75% left. Aside from my friend using his iphone as a GPS to navigate in the car (around 20 minutes) - we had roughly the same phone usage (by my estimate of course), we were at same locations and both of us are on the same network.
To be frank, I don't understand why my friend had more battery life than I did considering he was using gps. I do feel like there is something draining my phone battery.
My screen light settings are on automatic.
I've attached GSam and my list of applications.
From about 5 to now (5:52):
After a bit of surfing, installing 1 application to list my apps, emailing that app list to myself screenshotting the relevant data and emailing those screenshots to myself over wifi. I'm now down to 39%
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I left my phone charging from night until morning. I unplugged my phone sometime around 10-11am and I stepped out around 12:30.
It's 5:52 pm now.
I was out from around 12:30 to around 5ish. At around 5 my phone had 50-56% battery left. My friend's Iphone 5 had 75% left. Aside from my friend using his iphone as a GPS to navigate in the car (around 20 minutes) - we had roughly the same phone usage (by my estimate of course), we were at same locations and both of us are on the same network.
To be frank, I don't understand why my friend had more battery life than I did considering he was using gps. I do feel like there is something draining my phone battery.
My screen light settings are on automatic.
I've attached GSam and my list of applications.
From about 5 to now (5:52):
After a bit of surfing, installing 1 application to list my apps, emailing that app list to myself screenshotting the relevant data and emailing those screenshots to myself over wifi. I'm now down to 39%
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9:12
3 hours and 20 mins down the line.
I'm at 10% battery.
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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aamir123 said:
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
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Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
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that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA
Otherwise try as @PhilipL suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.
Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
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aamir123 said:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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aamir123 said:
Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Adaptive brightness less than 50%
I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil
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Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.
When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.
I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.
Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.
Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
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Hey folks,
Just curious if anyone has seen battery life improvements since the most recent wear OS app update?
Initially afterwards I saw normal battery life. However, I ended up being without a charger Saturday night due to an unplanned inability to drive home from a friend's house. This resulted in me powering down the watch overnight, then running it to dead on Sunday. Recharged overnight, and today this is what I'm seeing for battery life...
This is my normal configuration (BT connection to phone on, WiFi on, GPS off. Screen always on, same watch face I've been running for 5 days).
Interaction was at normal, or maybe slightly more than normal level today, as I was in training class so I responded to a couple things on the watch that I normally would have used phone for.
Really just curious if anyone else is seeing a change, since I can't figure out what, if anything, I did to make this happen. I'd love to see it continue, as it's about half the battery drain I'm used to seeing. Usually get about 22 hours estimated up time, something like 4.8% drain per hour. This shot shows steady drain of 25% over about 11.5 hours or like 2.2% per hour...
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Hey folks,
Just curious if anyone has seen battery life improvements since the most recent wear OS app update?
Initially afterwards I saw normal battery life. However, I ended up being without a charger Saturday night due to an unplanned inability to drive home from a friend's house. This resulted in me powering down the watch overnight, then running it to dead on Sunday. Recharged overnight, and today this is what I'm seeing for battery life...
This is my normal configuration (BT connection to phone on, WiFi on, GPS off. Screen always on, same watch face I've been running for 5 days).
Interaction was at normal, or maybe slightly more than normal level today, as I was in training class so I responded to a couple things on the watch that I normally would have used phone for.
Really just curious if anyone else is seeing a change, since I can't figure out what, if anything, I did to make this happen. I'd love to see it continue, as it's about half the battery drain I'm used to seeing. Usually get about 22 hours estimated up time, something like 4.8% drain per hour. This shot shows steady drain of 25% over about 11.5 hours or like 2.2% per hour...
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Same here I'm getting twice the battery life on my wear24 hope it continues
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Same here I'm getting twice the battery life on my wear24 hope it continues
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And you saw the change start since the last update? Have you run it fairly low since the improvement? I plan to charge tonight, but curious if it's actual improvement or a reporting error (so it'll die at like 50% or something).
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And you saw the change start since the last update? Have you run it fairly low since the improvement? I plan to charge tonight, but curious if it's actual improvement or a reporting error (so it'll die at like 50% or something).
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I've run it down to around 30% it took over 2 days lol and charged it back up I don't think it's a reporting error
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I've run it down to around 30% it took over 2 days lol and charged it back up I don't think it's a reporting error
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Nice!!
I'm totally baffled as to how you guys are achieving this kind of battery life. I've had the watch for seven weeks and I've never eked out more than about 18 hours.
CarlosDanger said:
I'm totally baffled as to how you guys are achieving this kind of battery life. I've had the watch for seven weeks and I've never eked out more than about 18 hours.
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I've been using this guide since I first got the watch for battery saving setup:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-battery-tip-wear24-lte-aw-watches-3-t3729680
This initially got me the roughly 22h up time and 5%ish per hour drain.
The only things I'm aware of that could have a (slight) chance of triggering this recent improvement are:
Update to wear OS software
Ran watch out of power (possibly giving the battery better calibration data?? Forcing a reboot after the update).
As of right now today isn't quite as good as yesterday (76% left at just over 8h off charger, so 3% per hour). Essentially identical usage to yesterday in same locations.
I dunno.
Thanks. I've seen that post. The guy swears by airplane mode. But if I have cellular disabled and wi-fi off, I'm not sure why it's also necessary to put the watch in airplane mode.
I'm sure that some of my watchface choices have an effect on battery life and I'm willing to accept that (and save the less-efficient faces for days when I'm mostly home), but I should still be able to get through a long day with power to spare, which is not always the case.
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Thanks. I've seen that post. The guy swears by airplane mode. But if I have cellular disabled and wi-fi off, I'm not sure why it's also necessary to put the watch in airplane mode.
I'm sure that some of my watchface choices have an effect on battery life and I'm willing to accept that (and save the less-efficient faces for days when I'm mostly home), but I should still be able to get through a long day with power to spare, which is not always the case.
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I do run airplane mode 100% of the time. No haven't really tried without it to do a comparison.
CarlosDanger said:
Thanks. I've seen that post. The guy swears by airplane mode. But if I have cellular disabled and wi-fi off, I'm not sure why it's also necessary to put the watch in airplane mode.
I'm sure that some of my watchface choices have an effect on battery life and I'm willing to accept that (and save the less-efficient faces for days when I'm mostly home), but I should still be able to get through a long day with power to spare, which is not always the case.
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Reportedly it still polls for Wi-Fi if you have it disabled. They state this stops in airplane mode saving a bit more battery.
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Reportedly it still polls for Wi-Fi if you have it disabled. They state this stops in airplane mode saving a bit more battery.
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The Wi-Fi polling may be part of location services?
I'd be willing to try airplane mode if it didn't put that little plane icon on my watchface.
battery improvement
I noticed my wear24 battery time got significantly improved today.
Is anyone else seeing on their watch? imgur.com /a/aUSCEQl
Shortly after I originally posted this, mine went back to what I'd call typical. However, the last few weeks it's been better again. I'm usually seeing between 50 and 75% battery remaining after a 16-18 hour day off the charger now. Seems to be better with facer and pujie black faces thanc with watchmaker, but the difference isn't huge.
my moto 360 first gen
only last 4-5h now. and turns off at 37% great
maybe need a new battery. buying one for 11€ hope that gonna fix it
Anyone else's wear 24 battery starting to go bad? As of the past weak I can barely make it 12 hours with minimal use. It's as if the battery life has been cut in half.
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Anyone else's wear 24 battery starting to go bad? As of the past weak I can barely make it 12 hours with minimal use. It's as if the battery life has been cut in half.
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Occasionally I get bad days, but, as an example today with minimal use I've had it off charger just over 11 hours and currently at 60% battery left. I'd say normal is around 20-22 hours usability.
Newest update has increased my battery life dramatically since a few days ago! Others are commenting on Reddit about it.
Same here. Getting 2 days of battery life with Airplane mode On; then Wifi/BT on (3G/LTE off).