So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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aamir123 said:
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
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Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA
Otherwise try as @PhilipL suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.
Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
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aamir123 said:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Adaptive brightness less than 50%
I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.
When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.
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Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.
I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.
Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.
Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
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How often do you charge your rooted nook simple touch? after i rooted mine after reading on it for about 6 hours for 2 days, my battery dropped to about 78%. Is this normal or my battery draining too fast? also when nook goes to sleep mode it doesnt drain battery right?
It kinda depends on if I'm using it a lot during school. If I have the WiFi enabled and I'm taking notes with a lot of screen refreshes, then it ends up at about 50-70% battery at the end of the day, at which point I either charge it that night or the next. Other times when I don't use it for much other than writing down homework, it doesn't go down too much. I haven't charged mine for a few days and it's at 40% right now.
I don't charge mine all that often depends on just what I'm doing with it. If it's got wifi on it's a couple of days, if I'm just reading or not using it it's a lot longer. I intend to eventually do a battery test of not using it, using it without wifi, and using with wifi, but it could be months before it gets finished (or started) since I don't have multiple nooks. lol
I've only done testing for 10 hour stints, but here's what I've noticed:
With wifi off and the unit mostly sleeping, it uses about 0.14% battery per hour.
With wifi on and the unit mostly sleeping, it uses about 0.9% battery per hour.
With the wifi on and using the unit furiously, it uses about 8% battery per hour.
I haven't had the unit long enough to develop any "typical" daily patterns yet. I did set up Tasker to only turn on wifi when select apps are run, and shut it back off when they close. This seems to give me the best of both worlds.
So to answer the question, I charge it when it gets low (< 30%). How long that takes varies based on usage.
It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?
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It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?
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Make sure your wifi isn't needlessly running say when you're reading.
brendan10211 said:
It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?
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A lot depends on how many screen refreshes you're doing, and network/wifi usage. If you're rebooting a lot, and raiding the Market, it will go more quickly.
Try just letting it sit unmolested for a bit and see if it levels out. With wifi off, mine is barely sipping power when in standby.
You also could be seeing bogus calibration. It's not dead until it's dead, regardless of what the gauge says. I've had Android devices blasting audio for 3 hours when the gauge read 1%. I'd give it a few more days and charge cycles before worrying too much. I think many of us panic when our battery doesn't last long the first few days, forgetting that we're playing with it constantly.
Of course, if you're still seeing poor battery life after a few days, definitely take it in for an exchange!
Ok. I charged it to 100% last night and then turned it off when it completed. This morning, I turned it on, and it has been on for a total of 4 hours. 2 of these hours were in standby, a half was reading, and the rest were taking notes and chatting with friends. Two hours were spent with the wifi on and two were spent with the wifi off. It is at 90% now. I think the part about misreading the level is what happened to me.
On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?
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Ok. I charged it to 100% last night and then turned it off when it completed. This morning, I turned it on, and it has been on for a total of 4 hours. 2 of these hours were in standby, a half was reading, and the rest were taking notes and chatting with friends. Two hours were spent with the wifi on and two were spent with the wifi off. It is at 90% now. I think the part about misreading the level is what happened to me.
On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?
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I use Battery solo widget. Its very good and get the job done
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[...] On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?
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When I'm in compulsive battery tracking mode, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro ($) for the graphing features. It allows me to go back and compare a week's worth of battery performance data. I also get a good feeling when I glance at it and battery availability has been flat for an extended period.
There's a free version, but I don't recall how useful it was.
Once I'm comfortable with things, I plan on removing it and any other monitoring tools, as they do consume some battery themselves.
Thanks. Will have to check that out.
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I used CPU spy to see if the phone went to deep sleep during the night and after wake up I saw that from the 7 hours, 4 hours it was in deep sleep and the other 3 hours it stayed at 300 MHz.
Is this normal? The night before I didn't charge the phone and it lost 9% in 7 hours during the night which I think is too much.
My phone isn't rooted so I can't find what is causing this, is there any way? Or any recommendation to fix this? The battery is pretty good but this is still annoying.
BTW I have 3G and WIFI always on, but no BT, no locations, no google search, google+, etc. activated and the Power Management settings doesn't show any drainning app at any time.
Thanks in advance.
mariodiniz21 said:
Hello,
I used CPU spy to see if the phone went to deep sleep during the night and after wake up I saw that from the 7 hours, 4 hours it was in deep sleep and the other 3 hours it stayed at 300 MHz.
Is this normal? The night before I didn't charge the phone and it lost 9% in 7 hours during the night which I think is too much.
My phone isn't rooted so I can't find what is causing this, is there any way? Or any recommendation to fix this? The battery is pretty good but this is still annoying.
BTW I have 3G and WIFI always on, but no BT, no locations, no google search, google+, etc. activated and the Power Management settings doesn't show any drainning app at any time.
Thanks in advance.
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For me the battery during idle seems to vary. I have seen it deplete at around 1% an hour or 2-3% for an entire 6-7 hour night. My guess is that it is based on my usage before bed. On some nights i might've used an app that triggered a wakelock and other times not.
I am heavily into homescreen customization (and rooting-however not for this phone yet, without the exploit) and have widgets and animations everywhere. (like the homescreens you would find on mycolorscreen). I also have a good amount of apps. The potential for a wakelock is certainly there. Considering those 2 factors i would say the battery for this phone is extremely solid compared to any devices i've used in the past.
I have also had instances where if i am at a meeting or doing an activity and don't touch my phone for several of hours the battery life stayed at the same percentage or only dropped 1%. So the phone does indeed go into deep sleep.
Overall, i don't think the standby time is bad enough for me to complain or investigate.
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For me the battery during idle seems to vary. I have seen it deplete at around 1% an hour or 2-3% for an entire 6-7 hour night. My guess is that it is based on my usage before bed. On some nights i might've used an app that triggered a wakelock and other times not.
I am heavily into homescreen customization (and rooting-however not for this phone yet, without the exploit) and have widgets and animations everywhere. (like the homescreens you would find on mycolorscreen). I also have a good amount of apps. The potential for a wakelock is certainly there. Considering those 2 factors i would say the battery for this phone is extremely solid compared to any devices i've used in the past.
I have also had instances where if i am at a meeting or doing an activity and don't touch my phone for several of hours the battery life stayed at the same percentage or only dropped 1%. So the phone does indeed go into deep sleep.
Overall, i don't think the standby time is bad enough for me to complain or investigate.
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Yes I see what you are saying, the phone doesn't always behaves the same way.
I just don't like the thought of some app draining my battery for no reason, maybe it's the e-mail account. I can't complain aswell, I got 2 days of battery with 6.45h SOT this weekend I guess that's great, 9% during the night was too much though.
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Yes I see what you are saying, the phone doesn't always behaves the same way.
I just don't like the thought of some app draining my battery for no reason, maybe it's the e-mail account. I can't complain aswell, I got 2 days of battery with 6.45h SOT this weekend I guess that's great, 9% during the night was too much though.
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If it was a one time occurrence I wouldn't worry about. If it is 10% every night then I would look into it
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I had battery drain of about 4-5% overnight at first, but after going through all the apps and disabling any parasitic menu options (like phone-home data logging), setting Wi-fi to turn off during sleep, disabling app syncing overnight and disabling or uninstalling unwanted apps installed by Sony, I'm down to about 1-2% drain overnight, which is about as good as it gets. And that's without Stamina enabled -- I set that to kick in only when the battery is below 50%.
When I got my N6P, I had expected standby time to be amazing thanks to Android Doze. My first day of use shows a lot of "awake" activity during the time when the phone is sitting on my bed side table, completely motionless.
Has anyone else had experience with their N6P doing the same? Am I doing something wrong that caused Doze to never activate?
As a frame of reference, when I went to bed the phone was at 47%. I took the screenshots when I woke up this morning.
Sorry if this is a silly question, but you have activated it haven't you?
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When I got my N6P, I had expected standby time to be amazing thanks to Android Doze. My first day of use shows a lot of "awake" activity during the time when the phone is sitting on my bed side table, completely motionless.
Has anyone else had experience with their N6P doing the same? Am I doing something wrong that caused Doze to never activate?
As a frame of reference, when I went to bed the phone was at 47%. I took the screenshots when I woke up this morning.
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Make sure it's on, and you've optimized all apps for battery savings. I lose 2% over night.
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Sorry if this is a silly question, but you have activated it haven't you?
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How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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For at least 20 min.
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How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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I activated mine when my phone arrived. Settings>battery then use the battery menu and select battery optimisation.
Very frustrating reading replies that say Doze must somehow be turned on. It DOES NOT have to be turned on. It's interwoven into Marshmallow automatically.
You can tinker with battery optimizations within the phone's battery settings, but that's about it.
Note: If your phone needs to conduct maintenance (update apps over WiFi, etc.) doze may not kick in the way you think. If your phone has nothing to do and is sitting still for an extended period of time, it'll enter Doze and only sip battery.
You can try greenify beta it has aggressive doze when screen goes off, just whitelist the apps you need to notify you immediately.
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Very frustrating reading replies that say Doze must somehow be turned on. It DOES NOT have to be turned on. It's interwoven into Marshmallow automatically.
You can tinker with battery optimizations within the phone's battery settings, but that's about it.
Note: If your phone needs to conduct maintenance (update apps over WiFi, etc.) doze may not kick in the way you think. If your phone has nothing to do and is sitting still for an extended period of time, it'll enter Doze and only sip battery.
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Sorry, my bad. Battery optimisation is separate from doze then?
I'm seeing the same problem. 20% depleted in 7 hours overnight just sitting on my nightstand. Deep sleep in better battery stats showed 95%. Not sure what's going on.
How's your charging speed? It's nowhere close to what others are seeing. Even though it shows rapid charging, the amount of time to fully charge is high. 3 hours from 25%. 45 mins from 85% etc. Are you getting fast charging times? I can understand some process binging on my battery while running. I'm getting no more than 3 to 4 hours screen on time. But I don't understand why I would have slow charging times. But if you are also seeing slower charging time, then perhaps it could be.
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Sorry, my bad. Battery optimisation is separate from doze then?
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That's just a feature that lets you decide what apps can override any kind of battery optimization
Lost 1% in 6 hrs last night,make sure all apps are optimised in doze setting
os2baba said:
I'm seeing the same problem. 20% depleted in 7 hours overnight just sitting on my nightstand. Deep sleep in better battery stats showed 95%. Not sure what's going on.
How's your charging speed? It's nowhere close to what others are seeing. Even though it shows rapid charging, the amount of time to fully charge is high. 3 hours from 25%. 45 mins from 85% etc. Are you getting fast charging times? I can understand some process binging on my battery while running. I'm getting no more than 3 to 4 hours screen on time. But I don't understand why I would have slow charging times. But if you are also seeing slower charging time, then perhaps it could be.
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Looks like it could be Tasker. I'm going to uninstall it and see what happens.
http://androidcommunity.com/tasker-gets-updated-to-version-4-8-beta-fixes-marshmallow-issues-20151026/
Doze works great for me. For example, during the night, I only lose like 3 percent battery life. That's pretty freaking low. It's like I went to sleep at 75% and woke up at 72%. Very effective imo.
By the looks of it, doze should be on by default. Going into settings/battery/battery optimization-just shows which are optimized and which aren't. It's not an on/off thing.
The only apps I can't optimize is Android OS and dm service. What's dm service anyway
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Looks like it could be Tasker. I'm going to uninstall it and see what happens.
http://androidcommunity.com/tasker-gets-updated-to-version-4-8-beta-fixes-marshmallow-issues-20151026/
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Unfortunately, that's done nothing. Lost 5% in 1 hour just sitting. BBS shows 76% in deep sleep. Screen on 1%. Awake (Screen off) 25%.
This was about 5 hours untouched on my table last night... Working fine...
The the thing I don't really like about doze is, it only works if the phone is flat on a table... Any type of movement, be it in pocket or even on the car dash, it won't come into play...
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This was about 5 hours untouched on my table last night... Working fine...
The the thing I don't really like about doze is, it only works if the phone is flat on a table... Any type of movement, be it in pocket or even on the car dash, it won't come into play...
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That horiztonal bar (a clear indication of Doze) just doesn't happen when leaving my phone overnight. The "awake" bars at the bottom of the battery screen in Settings is also switching on and off periodically when the phone should be dozing.
Does that mean a third-party app is the cause?
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That horiztonal bar (a clear indication of Doze) just doesn't happen when leaving my phone overnight. The "awake" bars at the bottom of the battery screen in Settings is also switching on and off periodically when the phone should be dozing.
Does that mean a third-party app is the cause?
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My guess is yes, some app is staying awake.
It would also explain slow charging....something is eating up CPU cycles and preventing the phone from idling down and sleeping.
It isnt just a 6P thing either....my LG G2 with numerous ROMs/kernels has occasionally experienced issues like this. Almost 100% of the time it could be traced to an app that was misbehaving. You can use a battery tracking app (GSM battery monitor, better battery stats, etc) to get more detailed info. If you arent rooted Im not sure how detailed the info can get, but its probably a lot better than the stock battery graph.
I left the device on 100% and go to sleep.
When I woke up I see 95% so I check the better battery stats and saw that the phone was in deep sleep all the time just minute and half was a wake.
It say the the mobile standby make it.
I think it too much if the device was sleeping
What do you think? I have a problem with my battery?
no, i guess not because i have arond 4 % loss over night in 8-9 hours. mobile signal strenght is also an issue if you have bad reception. but i guess the drain is normal. nothing to worry about. Are you stock or custom? I am on weta with naptime en greenify.
Unless it's a signal issue that does seem high. I get 1-2% over 6-7 hours over night. I'm not using anything like greenify or naptime either. I get that on Stock 7.0 and on Pure Nexus 7.
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I left the device on 100% and go to sleep.
When I woke up I see 95% so I check the better battery stats and saw that the phone was in deep sleep all the time just minute and half was a wake.
It say the the mobile standby make it.
I think it too much if the device was sleeping
What do you think? I have a problem with my battery?
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5% over a whole night and you think there is something wrong with your battery? Assuming that is 6-8 hours I'm not sure why you are worried. It is still on and, thus draining. So, if you let it for 24 hours 15% seems high to you?
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Unless it's a signal issue that does seem high. I get 1-2% over 6-7 hours over night. I'm not using anything like greenify or naptime either. I get that on Stock 7.0 and on Pure Nexus 7.
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No, it doesn't. Everyone has different setups, and <1% an hour is not high battery drain.
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5% over a whole night and you think there is something wrong with your battery? Assuming that is 6-8 hours I'm not sure why you are worried. It is still on and, thus draining. So, if you let it for 24 hours 15% seems high to you?
No, it doesn't. Everyone has different setups, and <1% an hour is not high battery drain.
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My thought exactly.
Sound just fine to me.
less than 1% an hour is a sound result.
I WOULD KILL for that kind of idle battery life. I HOPEFULLY get my 6p Thursday. I am on the S5 now running MM and sitting at my desk I get 5% or more per hour drain if I am lucky. right now, if I am not on it much, 10% per hour.
ultyrunner said:
5% over a whole night and you think there is something wrong with your battery? Assuming that is 6-8 hours I'm not sure why you are worried. It is still on and, thus draining. So, if you let it for 24 hours 15% seems high to you?
No, it doesn't. Everyone has different setups, and <1% an hour is not high battery drain.
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Hmm, doing nothing with phone it was 1% every 4 hours on stock. With PN7 its like 1% every 4 hours. This is with about 35 apps installed or no extra apps installed. So if you're seeing about 5% loss overnight for about 6-8 hours, it seems to me your phone isn't deep sleeping very well, cause that means there is a lot of stuff still working in the background. Like i said, unless there is poor signal.
Again this is based on what i see on stock and PN7.
Eric214 said:
Hmm, doing nothing with phone it was 1% every 4 hours on stock. With PN7 its like 1% every 4 hours. This is with about 35 apps installed or no extra apps installed. So if you're seeing about 5% loss overnight for about 6-8 hours, it seems to me your phone isn't deep sleeping very well, cause that means there is a lot of stuff still working in the background. Like i said, unless there is poor signal. Again this is based on what i see on stock and PN7.
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After being on Android since Gingerbread and using Sammy and Nexus devices, while doze in MM and N has brought a lot of improvements in sleeping battery drain, I'd say that 2% over an entire night is unusually low.
Also, many folks do different things to their phones overnight. If you leave it 'on' but turn off your radios and turn on total silence as opposed to just letting it go to deep sleep but leaving everything 'on', you'll see significant differences in drain.
I'd still just look at 24 hours of no use, doze drainage and if you only got 15% drain that would translate to roughly 7 full days of standby. That's pretty good. In your scenario, 3-6% drain over 24 hours of standby/doze is pretty much unheard of. I'm not aware of any phones that typically give users 17-33 days of standby
ultyrunner said:
After being on Android since Gingerbread and using Sammy and Nexus devices, while doze in MM and N has brought a lot of improvements in sleeping battery drain, I'd say that 2% over an entire night is unusually low.
Also, many folks do different things to their phones overnight. If you leave it 'on' but turn off your radios and turn on total silence as opposed to just letting it go to deep sleep but leaving everything 'on', you'll see significant differences in drain.
I'd still just look at 24 hours of no use, doze drainage and if you only got 15% drain that would translate to roughly 7 full days of standby. That's pretty good. In your scenario, 3-6% drain over 24 hours of standby/doze is pretty much unheard of. I'm not aware of any phones that typically give users 17-33 days of standby
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I've been on android only and since the droid X days which was Froyo myself.
My phone is exactly the same overnight as during the day. I rarely ever use WiFi since I'm on TMobile. My phone has to be fully available to me since I'm an IT Admin and that means I'm on call site security reasons 24/7. To me getting 5% a night would be making me search through my phone to find three cause LoL
Im not too sure what setting i changed on mine but when i wake up after 7 hours i'm sitting at 99%
Hey folks,
Just curious if anyone has seen battery life improvements since the most recent wear OS app update?
Initially afterwards I saw normal battery life. However, I ended up being without a charger Saturday night due to an unplanned inability to drive home from a friend's house. This resulted in me powering down the watch overnight, then running it to dead on Sunday. Recharged overnight, and today this is what I'm seeing for battery life...
This is my normal configuration (BT connection to phone on, WiFi on, GPS off. Screen always on, same watch face I've been running for 5 days).
Interaction was at normal, or maybe slightly more than normal level today, as I was in training class so I responded to a couple things on the watch that I normally would have used phone for.
Really just curious if anyone else is seeing a change, since I can't figure out what, if anything, I did to make this happen. I'd love to see it continue, as it's about half the battery drain I'm used to seeing. Usually get about 22 hours estimated up time, something like 4.8% drain per hour. This shot shows steady drain of 25% over about 11.5 hours or like 2.2% per hour...
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Hey folks,
Just curious if anyone has seen battery life improvements since the most recent wear OS app update?
Initially afterwards I saw normal battery life. However, I ended up being without a charger Saturday night due to an unplanned inability to drive home from a friend's house. This resulted in me powering down the watch overnight, then running it to dead on Sunday. Recharged overnight, and today this is what I'm seeing for battery life...
This is my normal configuration (BT connection to phone on, WiFi on, GPS off. Screen always on, same watch face I've been running for 5 days).
Interaction was at normal, or maybe slightly more than normal level today, as I was in training class so I responded to a couple things on the watch that I normally would have used phone for.
Really just curious if anyone else is seeing a change, since I can't figure out what, if anything, I did to make this happen. I'd love to see it continue, as it's about half the battery drain I'm used to seeing. Usually get about 22 hours estimated up time, something like 4.8% drain per hour. This shot shows steady drain of 25% over about 11.5 hours or like 2.2% per hour...
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Same here I'm getting twice the battery life on my wear24 hope it continues
wolfu11 said:
Same here I'm getting twice the battery life on my wear24 hope it continues
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And you saw the change start since the last update? Have you run it fairly low since the improvement? I plan to charge tonight, but curious if it's actual improvement or a reporting error (so it'll die at like 50% or something).
dandrumheller said:
And you saw the change start since the last update? Have you run it fairly low since the improvement? I plan to charge tonight, but curious if it's actual improvement or a reporting error (so it'll die at like 50% or something).
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I've run it down to around 30% it took over 2 days lol and charged it back up I don't think it's a reporting error
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I've run it down to around 30% it took over 2 days lol and charged it back up I don't think it's a reporting error
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Nice!!
I'm totally baffled as to how you guys are achieving this kind of battery life. I've had the watch for seven weeks and I've never eked out more than about 18 hours.
CarlosDanger said:
I'm totally baffled as to how you guys are achieving this kind of battery life. I've had the watch for seven weeks and I've never eked out more than about 18 hours.
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I've been using this guide since I first got the watch for battery saving setup:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-battery-tip-wear24-lte-aw-watches-3-t3729680
This initially got me the roughly 22h up time and 5%ish per hour drain.
The only things I'm aware of that could have a (slight) chance of triggering this recent improvement are:
Update to wear OS software
Ran watch out of power (possibly giving the battery better calibration data?? Forcing a reboot after the update).
As of right now today isn't quite as good as yesterday (76% left at just over 8h off charger, so 3% per hour). Essentially identical usage to yesterday in same locations.
I dunno.
Thanks. I've seen that post. The guy swears by airplane mode. But if I have cellular disabled and wi-fi off, I'm not sure why it's also necessary to put the watch in airplane mode.
I'm sure that some of my watchface choices have an effect on battery life and I'm willing to accept that (and save the less-efficient faces for days when I'm mostly home), but I should still be able to get through a long day with power to spare, which is not always the case.
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Thanks. I've seen that post. The guy swears by airplane mode. But if I have cellular disabled and wi-fi off, I'm not sure why it's also necessary to put the watch in airplane mode.
I'm sure that some of my watchface choices have an effect on battery life and I'm willing to accept that (and save the less-efficient faces for days when I'm mostly home), but I should still be able to get through a long day with power to spare, which is not always the case.
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I do run airplane mode 100% of the time. No haven't really tried without it to do a comparison.
CarlosDanger said:
Thanks. I've seen that post. The guy swears by airplane mode. But if I have cellular disabled and wi-fi off, I'm not sure why it's also necessary to put the watch in airplane mode.
I'm sure that some of my watchface choices have an effect on battery life and I'm willing to accept that (and save the less-efficient faces for days when I'm mostly home), but I should still be able to get through a long day with power to spare, which is not always the case.
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Reportedly it still polls for Wi-Fi if you have it disabled. They state this stops in airplane mode saving a bit more battery.
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Reportedly it still polls for Wi-Fi if you have it disabled. They state this stops in airplane mode saving a bit more battery.
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The Wi-Fi polling may be part of location services?
I'd be willing to try airplane mode if it didn't put that little plane icon on my watchface.
battery improvement
I noticed my wear24 battery time got significantly improved today.
Is anyone else seeing on their watch? imgur.com /a/aUSCEQl
Shortly after I originally posted this, mine went back to what I'd call typical. However, the last few weeks it's been better again. I'm usually seeing between 50 and 75% battery remaining after a 16-18 hour day off the charger now. Seems to be better with facer and pujie black faces thanc with watchmaker, but the difference isn't huge.
my moto 360 first gen
only last 4-5h now. and turns off at 37% great
maybe need a new battery. buying one for 11€ hope that gonna fix it
Anyone else's wear 24 battery starting to go bad? As of the past weak I can barely make it 12 hours with minimal use. It's as if the battery life has been cut in half.
shawndak said:
Anyone else's wear 24 battery starting to go bad? As of the past weak I can barely make it 12 hours with minimal use. It's as if the battery life has been cut in half.
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Occasionally I get bad days, but, as an example today with minimal use I've had it off charger just over 11 hours and currently at 60% battery left. I'd say normal is around 20-22 hours usability.
Newest update has increased my battery life dramatically since a few days ago! Others are commenting on Reddit about it.
Same here. Getting 2 days of battery life with Airplane mode On; then Wifi/BT on (3G/LTE off).