How often do you charge your rooted nook simple touch? after i rooted mine after reading on it for about 6 hours for 2 days, my battery dropped to about 78%. Is this normal or my battery draining too fast? also when nook goes to sleep mode it doesnt drain battery right?
It kinda depends on if I'm using it a lot during school. If I have the WiFi enabled and I'm taking notes with a lot of screen refreshes, then it ends up at about 50-70% battery at the end of the day, at which point I either charge it that night or the next. Other times when I don't use it for much other than writing down homework, it doesn't go down too much. I haven't charged mine for a few days and it's at 40% right now.
I don't charge mine all that often depends on just what I'm doing with it. If it's got wifi on it's a couple of days, if I'm just reading or not using it it's a lot longer. I intend to eventually do a battery test of not using it, using it without wifi, and using with wifi, but it could be months before it gets finished (or started) since I don't have multiple nooks. lol
I've only done testing for 10 hour stints, but here's what I've noticed:
With wifi off and the unit mostly sleeping, it uses about 0.14% battery per hour.
With wifi on and the unit mostly sleeping, it uses about 0.9% battery per hour.
With the wifi on and using the unit furiously, it uses about 8% battery per hour.
I haven't had the unit long enough to develop any "typical" daily patterns yet. I did set up Tasker to only turn on wifi when select apps are run, and shut it back off when they close. This seems to give me the best of both worlds.
So to answer the question, I charge it when it gets low (< 30%). How long that takes varies based on usage.
It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?
brendan10211 said:
It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?
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Make sure your wifi isn't needlessly running say when you're reading.
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It seems you all are lucky. I am using my nook the same way as bobstro, and I have had my nook for 3 days. I charged it completely. After reading for 4 hours max, and playing with android for 1 hour, I am at 30 - 40%. What is going on?
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A lot depends on how many screen refreshes you're doing, and network/wifi usage. If you're rebooting a lot, and raiding the Market, it will go more quickly.
Try just letting it sit unmolested for a bit and see if it levels out. With wifi off, mine is barely sipping power when in standby.
You also could be seeing bogus calibration. It's not dead until it's dead, regardless of what the gauge says. I've had Android devices blasting audio for 3 hours when the gauge read 1%. I'd give it a few more days and charge cycles before worrying too much. I think many of us panic when our battery doesn't last long the first few days, forgetting that we're playing with it constantly.
Of course, if you're still seeing poor battery life after a few days, definitely take it in for an exchange!
Ok. I charged it to 100% last night and then turned it off when it completed. This morning, I turned it on, and it has been on for a total of 4 hours. 2 of these hours were in standby, a half was reading, and the rest were taking notes and chatting with friends. Two hours were spent with the wifi on and two were spent with the wifi off. It is at 90% now. I think the part about misreading the level is what happened to me.
On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?
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Ok. I charged it to 100% last night and then turned it off when it completed. This morning, I turned it on, and it has been on for a total of 4 hours. 2 of these hours were in standby, a half was reading, and the rest were taking notes and chatting with friends. Two hours were spent with the wifi on and two were spent with the wifi off. It is at 90% now. I think the part about misreading the level is what happened to me.
On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?
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I use Battery solo widget. Its very good and get the job done
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[...] On a related note, anyone know of a good battery monitor widget for ADW?
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When I'm in compulsive battery tracking mode, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro ($) for the graphing features. It allows me to go back and compare a week's worth of battery performance data. I also get a good feeling when I glance at it and battery availability has been flat for an extended period.
There's a free version, but I don't recall how useful it was.
Once I'm comfortable with things, I plan on removing it and any other monitoring tools, as they do consume some battery themselves.
Thanks. Will have to check that out.
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...4 hours of heavy usage (wifi connection and 3g on but idle)
Mid to periodical usage could reach 24h.
6th day of usage....
i think this is mediocre for me. please report your battery performance to compare.
Any tips to improve this?
I can get around 8-10 hours with heavy usage... constant music, etc.. and about 2-3 days with light-medium usage.
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I can get around 8-10 hours with heavy usage... constant music, etc.. and about 2-3 days with light-medium usage.
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Hmm so i guess there is a problem with my device.
Great!, and how am i supposed to explain this to the service?
I get about 12 to 15 hours of heavy usage via web, text, and email. If i watch video it's less but I am pretty happy with the battery thus far.
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I can only get around 7 hours of use.
I have a problem that if i even dont use it, the battery still drain. I got it full charged and theb unplug it. About 8 hours later, it went down to 50%.
Is there any problem with my device?
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I can only get around 7 hours of use.
I have a problem that if i even dont use it, the battery still drain. I got it full charged and theb unplug it. About 8 hours later, it went down to 50%.
Is there any problem with my device?
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same here. i don't know how you guys are getting so much better battery life. i can barely last a day and i don't use it all that much. maybe 2-3 hrs of surfing the web over wifi (not even 3g). i even used setcpu to underclock to 200Mhz when screen is off.
Maybe it has something to do with the very first charge.
When i unboxed the battery was fully charged so i drained it and had it charged for 8 hours. maybe it needed to be charged prior first usage.
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I get about 12 to 15 hours of heavy usage via web, text, and email. If i watch video it's less but I am pretty happy with the battery thus far.
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Is that 12-15 hours with the screen on? Because that's much more than I'm seeing.
I've done a few measurements just to get an idea of the battery life. They are just extrapolations based on a few hours of runtime for each so they are by no means exact, but my impression is that they give a decent view of real values nonetheless. The battery percentage indicator does not seem to be terribly non-linear.
Video playing (SD quality) with full brightness: 5.5 hours
Video playing (SD quality) with lowest brightness: 9.5 hours
Idle at homescreen with full brightness: 6 hours
Idle at homescreen with half brightness: 9 hours
Idle at homescreen with lowest brightness: 12 hours
Music playing in headphones (screen off): 90 hours
Can't believe how lazy reviewers seem to be, I haven't read a single one where they have properly measured battery life for things like playing movies or reading an ebook. It's all just subjective feelings (which are obviously very unreliable).
All in all I am pretty pleased with the battery life (but I've just had it for a few days). I especially like the fact that it's basically a normal Android phone just with a giant screen and battery. This obviously means that standby and music playing times are going to be excellent.
Edit: Those of you who think you're seeing bad battery life, what does the battery use thingy in settings say? Or is that not a good tool?
I read a post somewhere where the OP was getting horrible battery life and found out that the Gallery app was draining the battery.
The OP in that thread said even exiting the app did not kill it, and it kept draining the battery.
Perhaps you can look into this more. I never use the gallery app so maybe why this is why i get decent battery life?
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Here is the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826472&highlight=gallery
If it's this post you're referring to it's by me . The Gallery application shows up under battery use though, so I'm pretty sure that's not it.
Are you sure it's really as much as 12-15 hours with the screen always on? If it were 9-10 hours with brightness at half it would around what I'm seeing I guess, but 12-15 is quite a lot more. Not that I'm disappointed, but if better is possible better is what I want
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If it's this post you're referring to it's by me . The Gallery application shows up under battery use though, so I'm pretty sure that's not it.
Are you sure it's really as much as 12-15 hours with the screen always on? If it were 9-10 hours with brightness at half it would around what I'm seeing I guess, but 12-15 is quite a lot more. Not that I'm disappointed, but if better is possible better is what I want
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No not 12-15 hours with the screen always on.... I get 12-15 total... Screen on for usage, off for a while, back on to email and SMS ect...
Ah ok, then there's no discrepancy .
I got 10 hours from full to complete off. I was using it to watch streaming movies on 3g
for a couple of hours and then watch a movie off of the sd card and an episode of supernatural.
After that its just web and ebook reading. Its pretty good. Almost the same as my ipad.
I got a total of around 14 hrs plus with wifi and edge on, screen brightness at 20%, around 7 hrs of standby while i was asleep at night, with 4 hrs of heavy surfing, youtube etc. . . No calls though, only some sms and always on IM with nimbuzz logged in.
What i am seeing is with heavy usage i.e. Multiple apps running, wifi and edge on, i get anywhere between 5-7 hrs of battery life which i think is fair enough for a device this size which am constantly fiddling with.
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Can someone please post,
Using the supplied mains charger, how long does it take to fully re-charge a drained Galaxy Tab?
As it is a large battery what sort of charging times to expect?
(This is while NOT using the device).
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Can someone please post,
Using the supplied mains charger, how long does it take to fully re-charge a drained Galaxy Tab?
As it is a large battery what sort of charging times to expect?
(This is while NOT using the device).
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it takes 4hours for me
I only get about 5-6 hrs tops under constant usage...browsing,fb,tweeting,watching video...but I buy the phone 2nd hand...I'm going to buy a new battery in the new future..let's see if the battery life over 8 hrs I would be happy : )
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Sorry guys,I didn't notice that this is for galaxy tab...forgive me : )
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I've not used mine for that long, but the Battery Left app(which I found to be quite accurate on my N1) shows that for MY usage, I'll get about 25hrs.
I've got the auto dim turned off, and brightness at max. I mainly use mine for checking emails, txting, and a few games.
Nothing heavy.
I'd recomend the Battery Left app to you guys looking to find out your battery life. You DO have to "train" it though, which requires a 100%-0% run for you.
Guys,
does.anyone know, do we need to cycle the battery to give it the best performance?
Example, charge up the unit, then drain it completely and recharge it again? Like in the old days.
mine hasnt gone down much. I have it unplugged at 6am and at 4pm i still have about 75-80% batt left.
This is with about approx. 2 hrs of talk and 30mins of data usage and voice calls paired to my BT headset. My screen brightness is set to 40%
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I once got up to 20 hours of moderate usage. But with heavy usage I get about 12 hours or more. I lose about 7% when watching an episode using flash....kinda sucks but I watch a lot of anime online. But I use this as my main phone too. Its replaced my nexus completely. though it was nice with my nexus cuz I could swap batteries. This is how I condition my battery. I let it get to about 2-5% then I recharge it. I don't let it get to zero cuz I heard you can damage the cell. sometimes I charge it to about 20% then I unplug it and drain it to 5% then back up to full. I just kinda switch it up. At first I was getting horrible battery life but ever since I started conditioning it this way I get great results.
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At the moment it seems like I'm getting around 5 minutes per percent (around 8 hours of constant use). The weird thing is that seems to be the case across all use, I get the same results from web browsing as I do reading comics in airplane mode.
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I get pretty incredible standby though with set cpu. I'll go to work and come back after eight hours or more with one or two percent gone.
Yeah the standby life is amazing
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set cpu app helped me get amazing stand by times. i mean i lose 1% every 24 hours propably.
during normal use, i get average 4-6 hours. surfing youtube, downloading, playing games. usually 5 is about right. People who say they get 8-10 hours heavy use are on one.
I would agree with 4-6 hours with constant use such as reading or twitter browsing. I previously had a Nook Color with CM7 on it and got about the same. Standby is amazing I almost never turn it off.
After about an hour of surfing or playing a game I lose about 20% so about 5 hours. But when watching videos I get around 7 or 8 hours
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What screen settings do you use?
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mrazndead said:
set cpu app helped me get amazing stand by times. i mean i lose 1% every 24 hours propably.
during normal use, i get average 4-6 hours. surfing youtube, downloading, playing games. usually 5 is about right. People who say they get 8-10 hours heavy use are on one.
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This sounds awesome I just got 48 hrs on included 4--5 hrs of use. Down to 2% ... wifi is set to go off with screen (after 1 min) not. Sure wat else to change
Hmmm. I was hoping that rooting/SetCPU/screen settings could get me closer to 8 hours of life, but that's not the case. I'll probably just sell the Iconia since the battery life is my main reason for owning a tablet, and in this case it isn't that much better than my laptop.
Run time.
52 hrs. %79 & moderate use. Never shut it off & still testing. Want to see how long it can go until I reach %30.
not trying to be an ass, but what are you guys using your tabs for? i run taboonay rom with thor kernel and good to very good battery life. I use my tablet all day long at work for e-mails, pdf viewing, gaming when i shouldn't be, and playing around on the internet. I wake up at 5 am everyday unplug my tab and start the day. With said usage i can go from 6ish AM till almost midnight and still have 20-30 something percent battery left. I wouldn't say i use it hard core, but i put it work. Just charge it while your asleep and it should last all day. Now on the occasion i watch movies on it it does drain the battery like a bastard but i can still get 5-7 hours of non stop movie watching on it. I really can't complain about the iconias battery at all. If you expect this thing to run like Carl Louis all day long without plugging it in you're in lala land. Theres alot of threads on how to get rid of cell usage drain, and look at whats killing your battery it may be an app or something you did settings wise to drain it faster.
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Completely agree, I got mine on Saturday and apart from the initial charge it's only been plugged in twice. Used on and off throughout the day on Sunday, most of Monday evening, all Tuesday evening and all Wednesday evening, playing games and on the web with a bit of youtube and playing around. First time charged at 35% on Monday evening, second time yesterday at about 11pm as it was down to 10%. I think that's pretty damn good myself. It's on OTA 3.1 and Rooted
As for comparing to netbooks, have a look at the size of the battery in a Netbook compared to the Iconia. Of course they're going to last similar amounts of time - The Iconia has a smaller battery but has less to power versus the netbooks larger battery with more devices to power.
I'm at 67% after about 27 hours with about 2 hours of actual use. I guess that's ok. I flashed the Minimalist rom on Tuesday so I probably haven't given the battery enough time to break in. Sorry for being a *****, I'm just impatient >.<
I was kind of afraid if it would last me through a day of classes when college starts back, but I think I'll be ok.
I was getting around 5 days total with 1 to 2 hours display usage before the update to 3.1. Now it only goes 2 days when on standby with less than an hour of usage. Going to download SetCPU and try that. I have not changed anything (widgets) since before the update, so I have no idea what's eating up the battery.
Does anyone use there tablet in this post?Lol
I use my tab all-day long and I usually have 20% by the end of the day.
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I use my tablet about 4 hours a day
I have to charge every 2 days
I charge during 2H30 arround.
Mine has been doing pretty well lately. I guess flashing roms took its toll
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setcpu settings?
I'm using SetCPU as well, but getting no where near what you say. I left it on sleep last night and it drained 15% - same as before.
But, maybe I'm not using it right. I enabled the "screen off" profile and dropped the speed.
What are you doing/setting to get that standby time?
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set cpu app helped me get amazing stand by times. i mean i lose 1% every 24 hours propably.
during normal use, i get average 4-6 hours. surfing youtube, downloading, playing games. usually 5 is about right. People who say they get 8-10 hours heavy use are on one.
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Ok, I activated a couple more profiles including "time", temp, low battery. Low battery definitely turned on and I saw the change in the icon on the bottom right. I think the "screen off" is not turning on - basically can't see it when the screen is really off . But, it's definitely draining the same amount of battery.
Am I doing something wrong?
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Ok, I activated a couple more profiles including "time", temp, low battery. Low battery definitely turned on and I saw the change in the icon on the bottom right. I think the "screen off" is not turning on - basically can't see it when the screen is really off . But, it's definitely draining the same amount of battery.
Am I doing something wrong?
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SetCPU didn't help mine either. Tried a few different profiles. I thought the one that would help the most is Screen Off, I set it max and min to 216mhz. No difference in battery drain overnight.
Most threads about battery are quite outdated, so I decided to start a new one.
And so recently my battery is starting to get less muscular.. My Xperia Play is 4 and a half months old, and one hour of consistent 3G usage can drop the battery down from 65% to 24%. I'm not very sure whether that is the norm, but if it is, that's bad battery life, in my opinion.
The Android 'Battery Use' page shows that most of my battery is drained from Cell Standby and System Idle (30%).
My wireless and GPS is always off. Am on 2.3.4 rooted.
Also, Gameboid consumes battery like a beast (even more than 3G), but I guess that's due to the high processing power required for emulation..
Is there any way I can improve the battery life?
Personally I found battery life to be terrible on 2.3.4 so I downgraded to R800i_4.0.A.2.368_World. I'm running 122M-1.5Ghz with scary and BFQ, on top of that I undervolted every frequency as much as I could using incredicontrol (Id give you the values but they vary by device). I always leave wifi, bluetooth, gps and data off when not using them, turned off automatic clock updates (there was a battery draining bug with this a while ago) and I run at 10% brightness with autobrightness off. With this set up I lose maybe 3-5% per night, so for around 6-8hrs in standby while I sleep. Ive got similar results on both cyanogen and stock. That being said I don't have a data plan so I do save a lot by not having data on, but a 40% drop in an hour isn't normal - Ive played an N64 emu which runs the processor full speed for that long and only experienced a 15-20% drop.
imho, the best battery life i've experienced is on 2.3.4.. when i'm on 2.3.3 i always lost 30-40% overnight (wifi, bluetooth, 3g, etc are turned off) stock rom, locked BL..
According to some folks, if you're charging your phone and let it stay plugged in for a while after it hits 100% that screws with the battery life.
On 2.3.4 rooted with all the facebook, timescape and other bloat removed my battery is pretty good. Wifi is on 247 and it reverts to hspda when out. Data syncs hourly, and i have contacts, hotmail and gmail syncing.
The other day i was sitting at 57% after 1 day 3 hours, and that included a half hour go on fpse, might have been more.
Battery life seems good to me. I get 1 day usage then charge over night. I do use my phone quite a lot for this (Tapatalk), Phandroid app, Engadget app, Joystiq app and browser. Wifi and GPS is always on.
At a guess I'm using the phone for about 1 hour a time, about 7 times a day... So like 7 hours web use, phone calls and texts, syncing is set to every hour with FiX on.
When I was on 2.3.3 I'd be lucky to get 10 hours out of the battery but 2.3.4 is awesome.
Edit. Obviously I play games too. Forgot to mention that.
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With this set up I lose maybe 3-5% per night, so for around 6-8hrs in standby while I sleep. Ive got similar results on both cyanogen and stock. That being said I don't have a data plan so I do save a lot by not having data on, but a 40% drop in an hour isn't normal - Ive played an N64 emu which runs the processor full speed for that long and only experienced a 15-20% drop.
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Actually I get similar idle battery drain rates as you, but personally I'm not very concerned with battery drain as long as it's not so much. I'm more troubled with battery life on consistent usage, which I feel the Xperia Play (or at least mine) sucks at.
When I play Gameboid, I get the same fast battery drop too - 40-50% in one hour.
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imho, the best battery life i've experienced is on 2.3.4.. when i'm on 2.3.3 i always lost 30-40% overnight (wifi, bluetooth, 3g, etc are turned off) stock rom, locked BL..
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Woah, 30-40% is insane! Glad that it's fixed for you.
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According to some folks, if you're charging your phone and let it stay plugged in for a while after it hits 100% that screws with the battery life.
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Yep, I read that from a lot of places too. I admit I used to do that (and have since stopped doing that), but sometimes I can't help it if I forgot to charge at night before I sleep (and have to charge overnight to ensure I have battery the next day).
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On 2.3.4 rooted with all the facebook, timescape and other bloat removed my battery is pretty good. Wifi is on 247 and it reverts to hspda when out. Data syncs hourly, and i have contacts, hotmail and gmail syncing.
The other day i was sitting at 57% after 1 day 3 hours, and that included a half hour go on fpse, might have been more.
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I envy your battery life One thing, if you remove Facebook, will your Facebook contacts picture sync go away too?
And did you remove the bloat stuff by deleting them from /system/app?
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Battery life seems good to me. I get 1 day usage then charge over night. I do use my phone quite a lot for this (Tapatalk), Phandroid app, Engadget app, Joystiq app and browser. Wifi and GPS is always on.
At a guess I'm using the phone for about 1 hour a time, about 7 times a day... So like 7 hours web use, phone calls and texts, syncing is set to every hour with FiX on.
When I was on 2.3.3 I'd be lucky to get 10 hours out of the battery but 2.3.4 is awesome.
Edit. Obviously I play games too. Forgot to mention that.
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Sigh, I could never get such good battery life..
All the more reason to undervolt, in standby undervolting doesn't have much of an effect on the phone since the processor is either in deep sleep or running at its lowest speed. Also using a governer like scary or smartass helps keep your device running at a lower frequency when possible. Like I said 2.3.4 was terrible for me, 10% drain overnight or more, but apparently YMMV with this. That being said 40-50% drain in an hour is crazy no matter what you're doing on the phone, like I said running N64oid for an hour drops me 15-20% keeping in mind this is at 1.5GHz with sound and the backlight constantly on. If all else fails you can always wipe everything and start fresh, carrying over the same settings while jumping around firmware can lead to some undesirable results. Anyway good luck and keep us posted
The facebook sync option doesn't appear on my anymore, although it used to. To clean it up all i did was :
Purchase Titanium Bakup
Freeze the things I wanted to remove and test rebooting, only freezing a few more each time
Backed up every app
Slowly uninstalled each one with a reboot every couple of apps
Enjoyed my faster phone with better battery life
I use the gmail sync and life.contacts for contact pics
I get amazing battery life on 2.3.4.
In stand-by I lose 1% every 3'rd hours. It's very good in use too. Yesterday I had my day with heaviest use so far and texted like crazy the whole day and a lot of phone calls. Some surfing, gaming and updating of apps between that. Basically the phone was frequently used the whole day with short periods of stand-by in between. At night when I went to bed the battery was at 40%.
Earlier this week I used it minimally for 2 days. The battery dropped 10% for each of those days. But that was very minimal use.
So in short. I have not experiences better battery life on any other Android phone. What takes the most power is emulating. It can suck up like 20% in an hour depending on which emulator I use.
I got my Play at the beginning of the week and with quite intensive use, without WiFi or 3g, I scraped an 8am to 6pmish day on the battery. Admittedly with a fair bit of gaming.
However, that was only waiting for my 2600mAh battery to arrive and now I'm using it, I would recommend it for the bulk. You don't notice it after half an hour or so and I have no issues with gaming on the go whereas I always thought it may die on the stock.
mine drops 4 - 5% /hour..... much faster than b4.... dn no w is goin on w/ ma PLAY.....
I found that since updating to 2.3.4 my battery drains quicker. Usually charge overnight and battery would be around 15% bedtime. (7am - 11pm approximately)
Now I'm finding that by 6pm I'm having to charge it and that's without gaming
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Three times in my first week and a half of ownership I awoke to find it completely dead despite fully charging it or nearly fully charging it before bed. I usually sleep with my phone next to my head so that I can ensure that the alarm will wake me up. That and the lack of a timer function really irk me about this phone. I really hate having to create and save an alarm when I know I only have 45 minutes or 2 hours to sleep (I work a grave shift and have inconsistent sleep schedules during the day). It adds insult to injury when something changes that lets me get another 5, 10, 20 minutes or so and I can't easily add it. On top of that, I have to go back and delete all the alarms I made throughout the day!
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According to some folks, if you're charging your phone and let it stay plugged in for a while after it hits 100% that screws with the battery life.
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Thats crap. Infact you should leave your phone plugged in a good 30/45 mins after it says fully charged if you want a full charge
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Thats crap. Infact you should leave your phone plugged in a good 30/45 mins after it says fully charged if you want a full charge
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Isn't it also beneficial to Li-ion's health to keep them at max charge whenever possible?...
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Isn't it also beneficial to Li-ion's health to keep them at max charge whenever possible?...
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Not at true max but at what the battery controller considers max. True maximum will drastically decrease the total cycles just like true minimum only to gain longer cycles in the short-term. When you store a battery it's best to stop at 75-80% because it will lose stored energy slower and not spend nearly as much time near 100%, which is still a trade-off between long cycles and more cycles.
What do you guys think to this?
ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430MAH-BATTERY-SONY-ERICSSON-XPERIA-PLAY-/190598210396?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6089e35c
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Its the same size as the standard stock battery so there's no extra bulk... But gives an extra 930mah?
To be honest, I am somewhat tempted... However the question is, will it explode in my pocket and result in me losing half my leg? It's quite a big risk to take! There also might be a voltage difference, however I cannot see anything on that.
Im currently on 1.6Ghz, undervolted. And I just played Order and Chaos for 35 minutes and went from 86% to 63% - I've had bad luck in the past regarding phone batteries, I remember replacing my G1 battery around 7 times, but at these rates my Play would be dead after around 3 hours or less of gaming.
how do you update to 2.3.4 it wont show me =[ please someone answer me :/
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What do you guys think to this?
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Its the same size as the standard stock battery so there's no extra bulk... But gives an extra 930mah?
To be honest, I am somewhat tempted... However the question is, will it explode in my pocket and result in me losing half my leg? It's quite a big risk to take! There also might be a voltage difference, however I cannot see anything on that.
Im currently on 1.6Ghz, undervolted. And I just played Order and Chaos for 35 minutes and went from 86% to 63% - I've had bad luck in the past regarding phone batteries, I remember replacing my G1 battery around 7 times, but at these rates my Play would be dead after around 3 hours or less of gaming.
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You have to expect that with any phone playing an online game. Wifi/screen/GPU/CPU are going at full wack at the same time. What dya expect?
I got a refurb Note 10.1 2014 from Groupon about a month ago. The battery life has been poor but I didn't use it enough to quantify it. I got home form work today and it was at 65%. After exactly an hour of use, it told me it was about to die at 5%. I can literally watch the battery percentage tick down while writing an email or browsing the web. Is this normal? I've had 11 android phones but this is my first tablet, I've never seen performance this poor.
This is my issue with android devices. If you are not an above average user and know how to trouble shoot to find what app or apps is causing your battery drain you will be left thinking the device itself is not good, when it's probably a wakelock or some background app killing your battery.
My device has good battery life. I wish it would do better with simple Internet browsing, but watching videos and other tasks are great in my opinion.
My advice, try to find if your issue is software related. After ruling that out, the only option is that out must be hardware related.
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I found the battery poor for the first couple of weeks. I gave it a full charge, took it off a couple of mins after 100% each time, only letting it drain down to about 15%. I was getting about 6 hours on screen time without power hungry games.
Then a few days ago drained it full, and charged it over night, now getting 9-10hours on screen time - mainly web surfing, watching full hd film streamed off home servers and low power games (5's.....far too addictive and simple). This also includes some use streaming bluetooth to wireless speaker with screen off, so at least another hour use on top of the 10 but with the screen off.
I'm about like redsurf. 6-10 hours of screen-on depending what you are doing with it. If you are only getting 2-3 hours there is something wrong. You can check under power in the tools/settings menu to see what is eating your power. If it is a program, kill the task. If it is the screen (more than 50% any time I have checked) and you are only getting 2-3 hours, definitely something wrong.
Oh, also try turning down brightness.
Note10.1Dude said:
I'm about like redsurf. 6-10 hours of screen-on depending what you are doing with it. If you are only getting 2-3 hours there is something wrong. You can check under power in the tools/settings menu to see what is eating your power. If it is a program, kill the task. If it is the screen (more than 50% any time I have checked) and you are only getting 2-3 hours, definitely something wrong.
Oh, also try turning down brightness.
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Funny enough, I probably have my screen brightness set to between 10% and 25% and rarely ever need it to be turned up any higher than that.
By rooting and disabling alot of bloat stuff I get an additional 1-2 hours out of my note 10.1. Just saying
I'm sure there could be a software issue, but even if i was gaming at full brightness with 40 background apps (I don't), 2 hours is unacceptable and probably defective.
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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Soundfreak82 said:
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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aamir123 said:
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
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Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
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that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA
Otherwise try as @PhilipL suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.
Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
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aamir123 said:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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aamir123 said:
Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Phil
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Phil
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Adaptive brightness less than 50%
I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil
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Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.
When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.
I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.
Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.
Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
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