When I got my N6P, I had expected standby time to be amazing thanks to Android Doze. My first day of use shows a lot of "awake" activity during the time when the phone is sitting on my bed side table, completely motionless.
Has anyone else had experience with their N6P doing the same? Am I doing something wrong that caused Doze to never activate?
As a frame of reference, when I went to bed the phone was at 47%. I took the screenshots when I woke up this morning.
Sorry if this is a silly question, but you have activated it haven't you?
steveg545 said:
When I got my N6P, I had expected standby time to be amazing thanks to Android Doze. My first day of use shows a lot of "awake" activity during the time when the phone is sitting on my bed side table, completely motionless.
Has anyone else had experience with their N6P doing the same? Am I doing something wrong that caused Doze to never activate?
As a frame of reference, when I went to bed the phone was at 47%. I took the screenshots when I woke up this morning.
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Make sure it's on, and you've optimized all apps for battery savings. I lose 2% over night.
Won't be druv said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but you have activated it haven't you?
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How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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jamgam said:
How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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For at least 20 min.
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jamgam said:
How do you know it's activated? The articles I've read say its automatic and you just need to leave the phone still.
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I activated mine when my phone arrived. Settings>battery then use the battery menu and select battery optimisation.
Very frustrating reading replies that say Doze must somehow be turned on. It DOES NOT have to be turned on. It's interwoven into Marshmallow automatically.
You can tinker with battery optimizations within the phone's battery settings, but that's about it.
Note: If your phone needs to conduct maintenance (update apps over WiFi, etc.) doze may not kick in the way you think. If your phone has nothing to do and is sitting still for an extended period of time, it'll enter Doze and only sip battery.
You can try greenify beta it has aggressive doze when screen goes off, just whitelist the apps you need to notify you immediately.
feralist said:
Very frustrating reading replies that say Doze must somehow be turned on. It DOES NOT have to be turned on. It's interwoven into Marshmallow automatically.
You can tinker with battery optimizations within the phone's battery settings, but that's about it.
Note: If your phone needs to conduct maintenance (update apps over WiFi, etc.) doze may not kick in the way you think. If your phone has nothing to do and is sitting still for an extended period of time, it'll enter Doze and only sip battery.
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Sorry, my bad. Battery optimisation is separate from doze then?
I'm seeing the same problem. 20% depleted in 7 hours overnight just sitting on my nightstand. Deep sleep in better battery stats showed 95%. Not sure what's going on.
How's your charging speed? It's nowhere close to what others are seeing. Even though it shows rapid charging, the amount of time to fully charge is high. 3 hours from 25%. 45 mins from 85% etc. Are you getting fast charging times? I can understand some process binging on my battery while running. I'm getting no more than 3 to 4 hours screen on time. But I don't understand why I would have slow charging times. But if you are also seeing slower charging time, then perhaps it could be.
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Sorry, my bad. Battery optimisation is separate from doze then?
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That's just a feature that lets you decide what apps can override any kind of battery optimization
Lost 1% in 6 hrs last night,make sure all apps are optimised in doze setting
os2baba said:
I'm seeing the same problem. 20% depleted in 7 hours overnight just sitting on my nightstand. Deep sleep in better battery stats showed 95%. Not sure what's going on.
How's your charging speed? It's nowhere close to what others are seeing. Even though it shows rapid charging, the amount of time to fully charge is high. 3 hours from 25%. 45 mins from 85% etc. Are you getting fast charging times? I can understand some process binging on my battery while running. I'm getting no more than 3 to 4 hours screen on time. But I don't understand why I would have slow charging times. But if you are also seeing slower charging time, then perhaps it could be.
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Looks like it could be Tasker. I'm going to uninstall it and see what happens.
http://androidcommunity.com/tasker-gets-updated-to-version-4-8-beta-fixes-marshmallow-issues-20151026/
Doze works great for me. For example, during the night, I only lose like 3 percent battery life. That's pretty freaking low. It's like I went to sleep at 75% and woke up at 72%. Very effective imo.
By the looks of it, doze should be on by default. Going into settings/battery/battery optimization-just shows which are optimized and which aren't. It's not an on/off thing.
The only apps I can't optimize is Android OS and dm service. What's dm service anyway
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os2baba said:
Looks like it could be Tasker. I'm going to uninstall it and see what happens.
http://androidcommunity.com/tasker-gets-updated-to-version-4-8-beta-fixes-marshmallow-issues-20151026/
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Unfortunately, that's done nothing. Lost 5% in 1 hour just sitting. BBS shows 76% in deep sleep. Screen on 1%. Awake (Screen off) 25%.
This was about 5 hours untouched on my table last night... Working fine...
The the thing I don't really like about doze is, it only works if the phone is flat on a table... Any type of movement, be it in pocket or even on the car dash, it won't come into play...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
This was about 5 hours untouched on my table last night... Working fine...
The the thing I don't really like about doze is, it only works if the phone is flat on a table... Any type of movement, be it in pocket or even on the car dash, it won't come into play...
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That horiztonal bar (a clear indication of Doze) just doesn't happen when leaving my phone overnight. The "awake" bars at the bottom of the battery screen in Settings is also switching on and off periodically when the phone should be dozing.
Does that mean a third-party app is the cause?
steveg545 said:
That horiztonal bar (a clear indication of Doze) just doesn't happen when leaving my phone overnight. The "awake" bars at the bottom of the battery screen in Settings is also switching on and off periodically when the phone should be dozing.
Does that mean a third-party app is the cause?
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My guess is yes, some app is staying awake.
It would also explain slow charging....something is eating up CPU cycles and preventing the phone from idling down and sleeping.
It isnt just a 6P thing either....my LG G2 with numerous ROMs/kernels has occasionally experienced issues like this. Almost 100% of the time it could be traced to an app that was misbehaving. You can use a battery tracking app (GSM battery monitor, better battery stats, etc) to get more detailed info. If you arent rooted Im not sure how detailed the info can get, but its probably a lot better than the stock battery graph.
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I have had a rooted atrix since release date.
The battery life has been frustratingly bad.
Right now (9am) I am at 86% with the screen having been on 26m.
It's very very very common for my "running" time in spare parts to be 2-3x my screen on time.
Partial wake usage is led by the process: UID 1001, followed by Android System.
Network usage is dominated by process "0" followed by android system. "0" is so far in the lead it is unreal.
My total in all time stats are:
Running 28%
Screen on 14.1%
Phone on 1.5%
Wifi on 30.5% (??????????????)
Wifi running 17.3% (Even more ????????????????????)
I have frozen all of the recommended freezing apps. I have beautiful weather set to refresh every 2 hours. Facebook, twitter, etc, aren't set to notify me at all. I have no idea why it's so bad.
It's coming to the point where i'm about to give up. My nexus one gave me better battery life.
I've already tried a factory reset, is there something i'm overlooking?
What is UID 1001? What is "0"?
The most frustrating phone I've ever owned. It is so close to greatness. I wish I could get rid of this terrible terrible terrible motorola blue garbage.
I've been struggling with battery life too for some reason. If you have Tango installed, get rid of it. That app didn't let your phone sleep and drained battery. Now my problem is the sensor usage when I check my battery history in *#*#INFO#*#*. Android system has been using the sensor 100% of the time for me. I factory reset it, but that didn't work either. I'm really contemplating going back to my N1 too, which is such a shame since this Atrix has so much potential
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Which radios do you have on:
-gps
-bluetooth
-wifi
Do you have 'autosync' turned on?
P.S How long until your phone goes from 100% to 0%?
Man_of_Leisure said:
Which radios do you have on:
-gps
-bluetooth
-wifi
Do you have 'autosync' turned on?
P.S How long until your phone goes from 100% to 0%?
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I turn wifi on and off. On a home off at work. Gps is on. No bluetooth ever. Autosync is on I guess. It may be frozen though.
Right now my phone is at 63% and the screen has only been on 37 minutes! This is pathetic.
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Dont know how you guys have such bad bat life ive been rooted since i got the phone i changed bat saver off to performance and after to days of mod usage im still at 60% so i dont know what tell u my battery is rockin
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eallan said:
I turn wifi on and off. On a home off at work. Gps is on. No bluetooth ever. Autosync is on I guess. It may be frozen though.
Right now my phone is at 63% and the screen has only been on 37 minutes! This is pathetic.
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Has your phone ever gotten down to 5%-10% or do you always recharge it before then? I've had issues in the past where a lith-ion battery loses lots of its capacity until completely drained and then completely recharged. It seems way to early for this for you, but it might help. From my limited experience, gps is very very costly in terms of battery.
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Has your phone ever gotten down to 5%-10% or do you always recharge it before then? I've had issues in the past where a lith-ion battery loses lots of its capacity until completely drained and then completely recharged. It seems way to early for this for you, but it might help. From my limited experience, gps is very very costly in terms of battery.
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Draining a li-on battery completely more than once a month damages the battery. It's a very bad practice.
I'm having the same issue with UID 1001 under Partial Wake Usage and I also have the 0 under Network Usage. Under Partial Wakelock it shows UID 1001 and a total time of 7h 7m 30s under Total in all time. I've tried a hard reset and still showed up. Have you guys checked to see if you are getting the same thing. If people are getting good battery but have this then I'll feel a little better. I just thought it was weird. I still get this even with WiFi, BT and GPS off.
Under Network Usage the 0 is pretty much all blue all the way across and a little bit of pink at the end. If i try to click on it "Settings has stopped unexpectedly" message.
The battery doesn't seem to last as long as my n1. With my n1 I still have roughly half when I get home from work. The atrix was at 30 or so when I got home today and its been similar most of the times.
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I am also not terribly happy with the battery usage. Maybe its because I have WiFi on all the time?
Also, just having bluetooth on (but not connected to any BT devices), shouldn't be a big drain on the device.
The main auto-sync feature I have is Exchange push notifications. Gmail only syncs every 3 hours.
I also have device running time on Spare Parts higher than Screen On Time.
I am going to try a factory reset and add applications one by one to see if that has any effect.
I've let it fully discharge once. I just can't sort it out. People in the other threads are getting 1+ DAYS uptime.
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With light usage I was originally down to about 20% at the end of the day. That's now improved to 50-60% charge after installing the 'green power' app recommended in another thread and further improved by turning off the auto brightness.
Auto brightness is good but needs to be reduced by about 30% to be useful.
Gps Navigation with google is the biggest battery drained I've seen so far. Its on the order of using 1% charge per minute. Im hoping that an offine nav app will be more efficient.
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There are a lot of reviews stating that spareparts IS the cause of battery issues. Maybe uninstall that and use the built in battery manager to determine use?
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There are a lot of reviews stating that spareparts IS the cause of battery issues. Maybe uninstall that and use the built in battery manager to determine use?
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Really? It seems to just be a monitoring app.
i was at 55% at about 5pm yesterday after 10+ hours of battery usage, 1.5hrs of screen, and probably 2 hours of LTE (the rest wifi). i use juice defender so when the screen is off it generally cuts data signals for me. well from 5pm to 9pm my battery went from 55% to 1% with maybe less than 30 minutes of usage (all on LTE though). i looked and no unwanted programs were running in the background.
i charged it overnight, got up and after an hour this morning of ALL standby (seriously the screen was on 3m), i went from 100% to 87%. that would mean on 100% standby the phone would have died within 8 hours, which is definitely not right or even similar to previous battery usage for me.
i restarted my phone, recharged, and so far it has been on for 40 minutes and the battery is at 99% with 2m of screen time, which makes a lot more sense. so have you ever experienced something like this where an android OS restart helps your battery, or does it sound like i might have a bad battery?
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i was at 55% at about 5pm yesterday after 10+ hours of battery usage, 1.5hrs of screen, and probably 2 hours of LTE (the rest wifi). i use juice defender so when the screen is off it generally cuts data signals for me. well from 5pm to 9pm my battery went from 55% to 1% with maybe less than 30 minutes of usage (all on LTE though). i looked and no unwanted programs were running in the background.
i charged it overnight, got up and after an hour this morning of ALL standby (seriously the screen was on 3m), i went from 100% to 87%. that would mean on 100% standby the phone would have died within 8 hours, which is definitely not right or even similar to previous battery usage for me.
i restarted my phone, recharged, and so far it has been on for 40 minutes and the battery is at 99% with 2m of screen time, which makes a lot more sense. so have you ever experienced something like this where an android OS restart helps your battery, or does it sound like i might have a bad battery?
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Install Carat, it will tell you exactly what is draining your battery. I'm guessing something something is syncing in the backgruond and killing your battery.
tuffluck said:
i was at 55% at about 5pm yesterday after 10+ hours of battery usage, 1.5hrs of screen, and probably 2 hours of LTE (the rest wifi). i use juice defender so when the screen is off it generally cuts data signals for me. well from 5pm to 9pm my battery went from 55% to 1% with maybe less than 30 minutes of usage (all on LTE though). i looked and no unwanted programs were running in the background.
i charged it overnight, got up and after an hour this morning of ALL standby (seriously the screen was on 3m), i went from 100% to 87%. that would mean on 100% standby the phone would have died within 8 hours, which is definitely not right or even similar to previous battery usage for me.
i restarted my phone, recharged, and so far it has been on for 40 minutes and the battery is at 99% with 2m of screen time, which makes a lot more sense. so have you ever experienced something like this where an android OS restart helps your battery, or does it sound like i might have a bad battery?
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Lots of people are having an issue similar to this with ATT. Is your ATT?
i am in fact ATT. sorry i haven't seen the other posts about it, have they broken through to figure out the root of the problem? any link to a thread about this? it's very, very odd. 8 hours of battery life is no good, too.
tuffluck said:
i am in fact ATT. sorry i haven't seen the other posts about it, have they broken through to figure out the root of the problem? any link to a thread about this? it's very, very odd. 8 hours of battery life is no good, too.
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I seem to get it when I am in a poor LTE coverage area, which includes one of my offices. It is strange. "Cell Standby" will usually have the largest battery usage in your settings. My temporary fix is to turn off "mobile data" from the toggle in notifications, especially if you have wifi where you are. You can usually tell when the battery is being drained b/c your phone will stay warm even with no apps running and the screen off. The only other thing that seems to help is restarting it every day or so. When I don't have this problem, the battery life on this phone is amazing, so I don't think it's a bad battery. If you find out a better solution, please let me know!
I'm assuming you get off work at 5 and use the phone more. If so, turn off juice defender when you leave work. Since juice defender turns off your signal, you have to reconnect every time you use the phone. That kills battery more than anything
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AndroidLonghorn said:
I seem to get it when I am in a poor LTE coverage area, which includes one of my offices. It is strange. "Cell Standby" will usually have the largest battery usage in your settings. My temporary fix is to turn off "mobile data" from the toggle in notifications, especially if you have wifi where you are. You can usually tell when the battery is being drained b/c your phone will stay warm even with no apps running and the screen off. The only other thing that seems to help is restarting it every day or so. When I don't have this problem, the battery life on this phone is amazing, so I don't think it's a bad battery. If you find out a better solution, please let me know!
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I would agree with your deduction. Cell standby is a battery hog. I use Wifi when I am at work and home. and HSPA+ everywhere in between. (No LTE in NH)
20blks said:
I'm assuming you get off work at 5 and use the phone more. If so, turn off juice defender when you leave work. Since juice defender turns off your signal, you have to reconnect every time you use the phone. That kills battery more than anything
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Doesnt that defeat the purpose of having JD? Has anyone shown than JD uses more battery than not having it at all?
Fyi cell standby doesnt actually use as much battery as it reports, its just incorrectly displayed on the battery meter. Hopefully there will be an update to fix it eventually. Google it if you want to fix it manually.
tuffluck said:
Doesnt that defeat the purpose of having JD? Has anyone shown than JD uses more battery than not having it at all?
Fyi cell standby doesnt actually use as much battery as it reports, its just incorrectly displayed on the battery meter. Hopefully there will be an update to fix it eventually. Google it if you want to fix it manually.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732722 for directions on how to manually fix this. I am not sure if it works with AT&T variant. Correct me if I am wrong.
I wonder if this is a common issue with other phones. My Dinc shows more than 35% stand by most of the time.
SpartanG087 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732722 for directions on how to manually fix this. I am not sure if it works with AT&T variant. Correct me if I am wrong.
I wonder if this is a common issue with other phones. My Dinc shows more than 35% stand by most of the time.
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Cell standby is just a reporting bug. It is not actually draining your phone as much as it shows.
There are two separate problems. There is the problem on the international S3's where it is reporting cell standby incorrectly. There is another problem with some of the ATT S3's where they are continually connecting or re-connecting to the network where they have a poor LTE signal. This is actually using the battery. You can feel the heat from your phone when you have no apps open and it is normally cool to the touch. The only solution I have found so far is to turn off mobile data, and the phone will cool down again and stop draining battery.
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There are two separate problems. There is the problem on the international S3's where it is reporting cell standby incorrectly. There is another problem with some of the ATT S3's where they are continually connecting or re-connecting to the network where they have a poor LTE signal. This is actually using the battery. You can feel the heat from your phone when you have no apps open and it is normally cool to the touch. The only solution I have found so far is to turn off mobile data, and the phone will cool down again and stop draining battery.
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Yeah I agree I think this is exactly the problem. I've only seen it once in a while though
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I disabled some of my ATT apps yesterday. I'm hoping that may have something to do with this issue, but I am in a location with a better signal today, so I don't know yet if that helped.
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Cell standby is just a reporting bug. It is not actually draining your phone as much as it shows.
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Right. It's just cosmetic.
I don't have LTE in my area and my battery life is okay. I use wifi at my house and at work. I just think it could be better, but i am used to my dinc with my custom rom and kernel. Amazing battery life. I can't wait until we get some sweet roms and kernels for the S3. So far i am super impressed with the phone.
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Cell standby is just a reporting bug. It is not actually draining your phone as much as it shows.
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mobilehavoc said:
Yeah I agree I think this is exactly the problem. I've only seen it once in a while though
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i think you guys are right. the only thing that fixed my problem was restarting, which obviously also turned off/on the mobile data. how would you do that normally? just hit airplane mode and then turn it back on?
do you guys think this is a bug with AT&T that will be fixed?
tuffluck said:
i think you guys are right. the only thing that fixed my problem was restarting, which obviously also turned off/on the mobile data. how would you do that normally? just hit airplane mode and then turn it back on?
do you guys think this is a bug with AT&T that will be fixed?
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Turn it off in the notification drop down.
tuffluck said:
i think you guys are right. the only thing that fixed my problem was restarting, which obviously also turned off/on the mobile data. how would you do that normally? just hit airplane mode and then turn it back on?
do you guys think this is a bug with AT&T that will be fixed?
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This isn't a problem that too many people are having, but there are enough that it must be a bug, at least for ATT. There is a toggle in your notifications that will turn off mobile data. I don't think it is enough to just turn it off and back on. If you are in an area with bad reception, you have to leave it off or the draining continues. If you find something else that works, please share with us.
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This isn't a problem that too many people are having, but there are enough that it must be a bug, at least for ATT. There is a toggle in your notifications that will turn off mobile data. I don't think it is enough to just turn it off and back on. If you are in an area with bad reception, you have to leave it off or the draining continues. If you find something else that works, please share with us.
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Just to confirm, a reboot fixed it. I was running my phone for over 10 days straight before it happened so as long as it only happens every 2 weeks or so it doesn't matter
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mobilehavoc said:
Just to confirm, a reboot fixed it. I was running my phone for over 10 days straight before it happened so as long as it only happens every 2 weeks or so it doesn't matter
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I'm also seeing this issue; battery gets hot and drains quick in sleep.
I'm running stock, and only rooted.
I do notice when checking my battery that "Android System" is taking up the majority of my battery, by a considerable amount. Is anyone else who is experiencing the drain issue also seeing this under their battery reporting menu?
Hello,
I used CPU spy to see if the phone went to deep sleep during the night and after wake up I saw that from the 7 hours, 4 hours it was in deep sleep and the other 3 hours it stayed at 300 MHz.
Is this normal? The night before I didn't charge the phone and it lost 9% in 7 hours during the night which I think is too much.
My phone isn't rooted so I can't find what is causing this, is there any way? Or any recommendation to fix this? The battery is pretty good but this is still annoying.
BTW I have 3G and WIFI always on, but no BT, no locations, no google search, google+, etc. activated and the Power Management settings doesn't show any drainning app at any time.
Thanks in advance.
mariodiniz21 said:
Hello,
I used CPU spy to see if the phone went to deep sleep during the night and after wake up I saw that from the 7 hours, 4 hours it was in deep sleep and the other 3 hours it stayed at 300 MHz.
Is this normal? The night before I didn't charge the phone and it lost 9% in 7 hours during the night which I think is too much.
My phone isn't rooted so I can't find what is causing this, is there any way? Or any recommendation to fix this? The battery is pretty good but this is still annoying.
BTW I have 3G and WIFI always on, but no BT, no locations, no google search, google+, etc. activated and the Power Management settings doesn't show any drainning app at any time.
Thanks in advance.
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For me the battery during idle seems to vary. I have seen it deplete at around 1% an hour or 2-3% for an entire 6-7 hour night. My guess is that it is based on my usage before bed. On some nights i might've used an app that triggered a wakelock and other times not.
I am heavily into homescreen customization (and rooting-however not for this phone yet, without the exploit) and have widgets and animations everywhere. (like the homescreens you would find on mycolorscreen). I also have a good amount of apps. The potential for a wakelock is certainly there. Considering those 2 factors i would say the battery for this phone is extremely solid compared to any devices i've used in the past.
I have also had instances where if i am at a meeting or doing an activity and don't touch my phone for several of hours the battery life stayed at the same percentage or only dropped 1%. So the phone does indeed go into deep sleep.
Overall, i don't think the standby time is bad enough for me to complain or investigate.
jdiddy_ub said:
For me the battery during idle seems to vary. I have seen it deplete at around 1% an hour or 2-3% for an entire 6-7 hour night. My guess is that it is based on my usage before bed. On some nights i might've used an app that triggered a wakelock and other times not.
I am heavily into homescreen customization (and rooting-however not for this phone yet, without the exploit) and have widgets and animations everywhere. (like the homescreens you would find on mycolorscreen). I also have a good amount of apps. The potential for a wakelock is certainly there. Considering those 2 factors i would say the battery for this phone is extremely solid compared to any devices i've used in the past.
I have also had instances where if i am at a meeting or doing an activity and don't touch my phone for several of hours the battery life stayed at the same percentage or only dropped 1%. So the phone does indeed go into deep sleep.
Overall, i don't think the standby time is bad enough for me to complain or investigate.
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Yes I see what you are saying, the phone doesn't always behaves the same way.
I just don't like the thought of some app draining my battery for no reason, maybe it's the e-mail account. I can't complain aswell, I got 2 days of battery with 6.45h SOT this weekend I guess that's great, 9% during the night was too much though.
mariodiniz21 said:
Yes I see what you are saying, the phone doesn't always behaves the same way.
I just don't like the thought of some app draining my battery for no reason, maybe it's the e-mail account. I can't complain aswell, I got 2 days of battery with 6.45h SOT this weekend I guess that's great, 9% during the night was too much though.
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If it was a one time occurrence I wouldn't worry about. If it is 10% every night then I would look into it
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I had battery drain of about 4-5% overnight at first, but after going through all the apps and disabling any parasitic menu options (like phone-home data logging), setting Wi-fi to turn off during sleep, disabling app syncing overnight and disabling or uninstalling unwanted apps installed by Sony, I'm down to about 1-2% drain overnight, which is about as good as it gets. And that's without Stamina enabled -- I set that to kick in only when the battery is below 50%.
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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Soundfreak82 said:
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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aamir123 said:
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
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Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.
PhilipL said:
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
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that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA
Otherwise try as @PhilipL suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.
Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
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aamir123 said:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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aamir123 said:
Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Phil
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Adaptive brightness less than 50%
I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil
PhilipL said:
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil
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Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.
When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.
km8j said:
That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.
I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.
Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.
Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
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Ehy everyone, for some reason it feels to me that my battery life on my s10 plus sucks.
I got it 2 weeks ago.
I did a test and charged up to 100%, went to sleep with 100% and woke up with 93% battery..
In addition to that, my previous phone Galaxy a7 2017, could hold on 100% like 5 minutes even when using the phone, my s10 plus goes from 100 to 96 in like few mintues..
I added a screenshot from my battery usage
And cpu usage
Oh and btw, ive read about the Voip battery drain but i dont do any whatsapp calls or such..
Any help?
I put mine on airplane mode at 50% before bed wake up its 49% , I've found I get better battery life from quick hrs or so charge rather than charging through the night , also it learns your charging habits apparently , but that's a big drain poss a app is root cause do you put on airplane mode at night ?
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Parkourhaderatt said:
Ehy everyone, for some reason it feels to me that my battery life on my s10 plus sucks.
I got it 2 weeks ago.
I did a test and charged up to 100%, went to sleep with 100% and woke up with 93% battery..
In addition to that, my previous phone Galaxy a7 2017, could hold on 100% like 5 minutes even when using the phone, my s10 plus goes from 100 to 96 in like few mintues..
I added a screenshot from my battery usage
And cpu usage
Oh and btw, ive read about the Voip battery drain but i dont do any whatsapp calls or such..
Any help?
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Did you do a restore your data from a backup?
There are users reporting that restoring from SmartSwitch or Google backup can affect battery life, there is a really nice thread called battery optimisation guide you should give it a look
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Did you do a restore your data from a backup?
There are users reporting that restoring from SmartSwitch or Google backup can affect battery life, there is a really nice thread called battery optimisation guide you should give it a look
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Never restored anything..
Could you send me that thread?
Parkourhaderatt said:
Never restored anything..
Could you send me that thread?
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My phone used to be the same way, I disabled the auto optimization, that seemed to do the trick. Go to device care and hit the three settings buttons and turn it off. Huge difference.
bigmann77 said:
My phone used to be the same way, I disabled the auto optimization, that seemed to do the trick. Go to device care and hit the three settings buttons and turn it off. Huge difference.
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It seems like my phone cant get to deep sleep mode
It was off while i was sleeping and yet no deep sleep mode
Did you make voip call?
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Guys please follow this guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/galaxy-s10-battery-optimisation-guide-t3911988
Your phone should work like a charm, those devices should behave a certain way, either it is a bug or something you might be doing wrong or an app setting coming from a backup restoration.
It is a voip call, google a little. I had deep sleep for 7 days, yesterday i made a call, and since then phone didnt go to deep sleepz so i restarted it and now it is as before... It is fixed in march update. Buying a phone that costs 1000+ $ and turning 50% of options off is ridiculous.
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bigmann77 said:
My phone used to be the same way, I disabled the auto optimization, that seemed to do the trick. Go to device care and hit the three settings buttons and turn it off. Huge difference.
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thanks for the tip, I will try it
vojopd said:
It is a voip call, google a little. I had deep sleep for 7 days, yesterday i made a call, and since then phone didnt go to deep sleepz so i restarted it and now it is as before... It is fixed in march update. Buying a phone that costs 1000+ $ and turning 50% of options off is ridiculous.
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Thats what i thought, how can i pay so much money for a phone ans turn everything off because it consumes the battery..
Hope it will get fixed
I did return my unit because of idle battery drain, for 1k price, no thanks...
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I did return my unit because of idle battery drain, for 1k price, no thanks...
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I'm thinking to return my unit too... that is ridiculous.
Parkourhaderatt said:
Ehy everyone, for some reason it feels to me that my battery life on my s10 plus sucks.
I got it 2 weeks ago.
I did a test and charged up to 100%, went to sleep with 100% and woke up with 93% battery..
In addition to that, my previous phone Galaxy a7 2017, could hold on 100% like 5 minutes even when using the phone, my s10 plus goes from 100 to 96 in like few mintues..
I added a screenshot from my battery usage
And cpu usage
Oh and btw, ive read about the Voip battery drain but i dont do any whatsapp calls or such..
Any help?
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Mine was poor but after 5 days did pick up. Had to change some settings. However, I can't put a picture on as says this feature has been disabled by your administrator. Xda app
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The latest firmware update solve the VoIP CPU-lock issue. But i am still experiencing mild battery drain, when i sleep with 100% batt, i closed all apps and cleared them from the ram and still get 93% when i wake up after 8hours of idle time. No idea how to solve this, checked the CPU its on "sleep/idle" mode the entire 8hours but somehow -7% battery.
I turned off VoIP, location and put the phone to medium power saving mode. It got better.
Edit: I am not having any performance issues with medium battery saving. %70 brightness, limited CPU, FHD screen resolution.