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This shows that the chip issue is bothering more than just consumers. Hopefully this pressure will help us maintain control over our phones.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-sour...r-android-becoming-a-political-liability/7588
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This shows that the chip issue is bothering more than just consumers. Hopefully this pressure will help us maintain control over our phones.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-sour...r-android-becoming-a-political-liability/7588
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What chip issue exactly?
Stick it to Google, T-mobile... The cellphone manufacturers are starting to imprint chips to bypass any OS modifications... I can clearly say "it's only a matter of time until this cheapy little chip is cracked."
At this point it really doesn't matter if its a chip, a bug or bad juju big brother is starting to take notice and that is good for us.
Wow, so why doesn't anyone ever bring up the Droid X? Or this this just mainly a ploy to take aim at T-mobile?
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This is indeed very good news for the customer (like us) who like to do more than just accept how the phone comes. Keep up the pressure people! =)
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What chip issue exactly?
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Seconded.
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janus zeal said:
Seconded.
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This chip is why we cant have Perma Root. Look for Root thread and you will see what i mean and a much better explanation hehe
Ehh... this article is bull****. It's just some more hype written by another Android user for ZDNet. If you look at the sourced article, it does not mention any impending predicament for Schmidt and barely talks about Google. This just hype... for example:
The ZDnet author writes in his article:
It is now obvious that it’s the latter step Google took with Android and folks in Washington are starting to take notice.
The cited article doesn't mention a political quandary headed by Google. It can be summarized well by the last sentence. And the only relevance to Google and Schmidt in that article is a short blurb referring to another blog post on the same site.
The fundamental question the FCC now needs to answer is not if developers will find a way around the latest blocks, but if companies should be allowed to continue actively blocking users from truly owning and having full control over the mobile devices they buy in the first place.
and
On Tuesday October 5, 2010 the New America Foundation posted a blog highlighting a new “feature” of the T-Mobile's G2 with Google phone (G2).
Following that link takes us to the New American Foundation site which posted the following on Oct 5th (with an update on the 7th):
Unfortunately, the G2 also comes with built-in hardware that restricts what software a device owner might wish to install.
and
Clearly, the included software on T-Mobile's phone overrides a user's rights to run the legal software and applications of their choice. Instead, a microchip on the new T-Mobile Android phone acts just like a virus -- overwriting a user's preferred software and changing preferences and settings to change settings and software to conform to the desires of a third party. Users of the new "T-Mobile G2 with Google" phone should be warned that their device will overwrite their software modifications. We are seeking further clarification as to the legality of this software.
As you can see this is between the FCC, T-Mobile and possibly HTC. I don't foresee Google taking any real interest in this because it can only cost them money. Sure Google has made some noble contributions, but how much can they gain from protecting their interests? Not an awful much in this case. Mobile phone manufacturers and network providers will keep using the Android operating system. And the fact that Google licensed the Android operating system does not readily mean they are entitled to enforce it.
If you are interested in the legality of enforcing a license like the GPL, I highly suggest reading: http://www.jltp.uiuc.edu/archives/kumar.pdf
Here's a blurb that describes the predicament:
Two competing theories attempt to explain why the GPL is
enforceable. The first theory, backed by the GPL’s creator Richard
Stallman, declares that the GPL is a non-contractual license, rather than
a contract. Eben Moglen, general counsel for Stallman’s Free Software
Foundation (“FSF”), has stated that “[l]icenses are not contracts: the
work’s user is obliged to remain within the bounds of the license not
because she voluntarily promised, but because she doesn’t have any right
to act at all except as the license permits.”28 This theory presents
problems, because it does not account for the possibility of the licensor
withdrawing the license to the detriment of the licensee. Draft 2 of GPL
v.3 states that “[a]ll rights granted under this License are granted for the
term of copyright on the Program, and are irrevocable provided the stated
conditions are met.”29 However, the draft provides no guidance regarding
what kind of legal remedy is available to a licensee if the licensor
attempts to revoke previously granted rights.
The second theory holds that the GPL is a contract. This theory is
plausible, because traditional software licenses are generally interpreted
as contracts. But such licenses also have cash consideration. Contract
proponents argue that consideration does exist under the GPL. But
ultimately, they are unable to show that there is a meeting of minds
between the licensor and licensee, thus failing the requirements of
contract formation.
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Ehh... this article is bull****. It's just some more hype written by another Android user for ZDNet. If you look at the sourced article, it does not mention any impending predicament for Schmidt and barely talks about Google. This just hype... for example:
The ZDnet author writes in his article:
It is now obvious that it’s the latter step Google took with Android and folks in Washington are starting to take notice.
The cited article doesn't mention a political quandary headed by Google. It can be summarized well by the last sentence. And the only relevance to Google and Schmidt in that article is a short blurb referring to another blog post on the same site.
The fundamental question the FCC now needs to answer is not if developers will find a way around the latest blocks, but if companies should be allowed to continue actively blocking users from truly owning and having full control over the mobile devices they buy in the first place.
and
On Tuesday October 5, 2010 the New America Foundation posted a blog highlighting a new “feature” of the T-Mobile's G2 with Google phone (G2).
Following that link takes us to the New American Foundation site which posted the following on Oct 5th (with an update on the 7th):
Unfortunately, the G2 also comes with built-in hardware that restricts what software a device owner might wish to install.
and
Clearly, the included software on T-Mobile's phone overrides a user's rights to run the legal software and applications of their choice. Instead, a microchip on the new T-Mobile Android phone acts just like a virus -- overwriting a user's preferred software and changing preferences and settings to change settings and software to conform to the desires of a third party. Users of the new "T-Mobile G2 with Google" phone should be warned that their device will overwrite their software modifications. We are seeking further clarification as to the legality of this software.
As you can see this is between the FCC, T-Mobile and possibly HTC. I don't foresee Google taking any real interest in this because it can only cost them money. Sure Google has made some noble contributions, but how much can they gain from protecting their interests? Not an awful much in this case. Mobile phone manufacturers and network providers will keep using the Android operating system. And the fact that Google licensed the Android operating system does not readily mean they are entitled to enforce it.
If you are interested in the legality of enforcing a license like the GPL, I highly suggest reading: http://www.jltp.uiuc.edu/archives/kumar.pdf
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Whatever... It's whatever you want it to be... Stop trying to ruin the excitement here...
I think the real issue her is the we own the phone and have the right to install or uninstall any application we want that is not integral to the proper operation of the phone without needing root access. This just isn't a T-mobile issue either, all cell providers do the same thing. I doubt it will change anytime soon without the government getting involved.
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Whatever... It's whatever you want it to be... Stop trying to ruin the excitement here...
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You can also try thinking for yourself as opposed to accepting everything you read, whether it's my post or the article.
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just out of curiosity
is it possible that by "rooting" our phones we would then be able to circumvent some of the failsafes or even bypass billing processes that our network providers have in place?
if there is even the slightest hint of a yes then i would say that any network provider would be entitled to take "reasonable" action to protect their investment as im sure that in any contract or terms of use guide the networks have there would be a section saying something similiar, if not more wordy and legal'ish
Regardless of sensationalism or whatever this is good for us.. I just can't believe the responses here or hell in most of the G2 forums. Most of you are like puppies who will lay over just for a corporate tummy rub. WTF! Why are the "this phone rocks root or not!!11!!" people even on a DEVELOPER website? Jesus people you are either with or against the thing that made cyanogenmod a household name....open android.
I can clearly say XDA was not founded on the principal of HEY MY PHONE CAME JUST THE WAY I LIKED IT....AHHH THANKS HTC.
Please get behind the cause people.
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You can also try thinking for yourself as opposed to accepting everything you read, whether it's my post or the article.
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Let me guess... you voted for obama...
naria01 said:
Let me guess... you voted for obama...
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No.
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naria01 said:
Let me guess... you voted for obama...
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WTF...does voting for Obama have to do with this.....some people.
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OP thanks for the link to the info it was interesting to know that more than just consumers are taking notice even if it doesn't go very far.
Mod, please close this thread before its dominated by "truck stop politics." This isn't the place to discuss who voted for who and why or why not it was a good idea.
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just out of curiosity
is it possible that by "rooting" our phones we would then be able to circumvent some of the failsafes or even bypass billing processes that our network providers have in place?
if there is even the slightest hint of a yes then i would say that any network provider would be entitled to take "reasonable" action to protect their investment as im sure that in any contract or terms of use guide the networks have there would be a section saying something similiar, if not more wordy and legal'ish
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... no. Billing is done on carrier side, not on the phone. In fact, the carrier doesn't even know which phone you're currently using, and they don't really care beyond forcing you to buy certain plans with certain phones.
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This chip is why we cant have Perma Root. Look for Root thread and you will see what i mean and a much better explanation hehe
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Did you even read the root threads you just referenced? If so, you clearly don't understand what's in them so read the wiki.
I find it odd that the article that the OP linked to mentions T-Mobile's claims of a poorly coded app almost bringing the network down helps they argument for blocking root. The problem is, based on what I can from the TmoNews article on the app, that app had nothing to do with rooting. Any attempt to link that app to root problems for carriers is pure FUD.
Is it too much to ask that T-Mobile just come out and say that rooting and flashing ROMs leads to higher support costs? Then we can at least have an honest debate.
If you are a proud owner of the Samsung Galaxy Tab and intend to travel to Saudi Arabia anytime soon, well you will have to be ready for some restrictions that has come into effect from this Saturday onwards. Restrictions such that you might either have to choose any one of the two — either your Galaxy Tab or forgo your plans to visit the country with the most oil mills. The ban applies to the iPhone as well though its only applicable when you visit any of the oil rich country’s security installations.
The ban which has been issued by the Saudi interior ministry is aimed at tackling hacking which these sophisticated communication devices are otherwise susceptible to. IT specialists and cyber security experts too are supportive of the idea and believe these hi-tech devices can indeed put to risk the privacy of people and institutions alike.
“Each organization should have its own criteria to prescribe what is allowable and what is not from gadgets pertinent to the security of its information,” said an IT specialist Talha Jarad before also adding, “securing information is highly dependable on what such organizations decide and in respect to the volume of risks related to the use of such equipment inside their outlets.”
Also, the latest move on part of the Saudi interior ministry governing the use of electronic gadgets such as smartphones and tablet PCs should hardly come as a surprise as there already are such bans in place in countries like the US or in several European countries. However, what indeed is surprising is the manner in which gadgets such as only the iPhone or the Galaxy Tab has been singled out to include in the ban. Maybe its because these devices are the most in use though there’s also no denying the fact that other similar devices can prove to be equally damaging.
First blackberry, now iphone & SGT? What the hell is problem wit those country? How people going to evolve if something like this rule being make of. Those country will stay in a stone age if they keep blocking some hi end product like this. I just could not understand them. I have a friend who live & work in Saudi. They have a very week rule in road highway. They have no speed limit for driving, & no police traffic to control the road.
They have a very tight security for institutions, but very weak security on the road highway??? What a lame.
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Yeah what is wrong with those countries. Well i think they should use Nokia 5110 instead.
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no Nokia 3310 is what they really need lol
sigmaphi said:
no Nokia 3310 is what they really need lol
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Noo, they wants nokia 1100
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I really don't see how a LARGE Galaxy tablet can be a security threat. I mean, an iphone/ blackberry is small ... and you could make an argument that they are small enough that u can snap piictures and yadda yadda. i mean, its a weak argument...
but a 10 inch screen being used as a stealth spying device? so stupid. its reasons like this that companies like samsung and htc aren't rolling out with arabic libs built into their phones.
Making us chase for root and new libs for every ROM that we install on every phone.
Now i'm just blabbing.
7 inch screen
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If you wanna pass this along maybe we can get the President's advisors to actually talk about it.
http://wh.gov/VfI8
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You should change the title to make it clear what the petition is supposed to accomplish. It might get more readership. Aside from that and some wording suggestions in the petition itself, i do agree.
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Can't modify once its started. D'oh!
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justflorin said:
Can't modify once its started. D'oh!
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Man... they won't even let you change "aloud" to "allowed". That blows.
Lol yeah I know...stupid auto correct
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Yeah it is like white house doesn't have anything else to deal with. Better send a petition to UNICEF for those who were left orphan by motorola.
You probably can't change the petition because certain people and groups would exploit that as a way to get people to sign a petition who would not otherwise support it if they knew the true intent.
Semseddin said:
Yeah it is like white house doesn't have anything else to deal with. Better send a petition to UNICEF for those who were left orphan by motorola.
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There are plenty of worse petitions on there.
lehjr said:
There are plenty of worse petitions on there.
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That doesn't justify compounding the problem.
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That doesn't justify compounding the problem.
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How does it compound the problem if the petition is for a real world issue with real world consequences instead of some delusional fantasy as is the case with many of the others? The petition in this case is using the site as intended.
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How does it compound the problem if the petition is for a real world issue with real world consequences instead of some delusional fantasy as is the case with many of the others? The petition in this case is using the site as intended.
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While it is a real world problem it really isn't in the scope of lawmakers. This is more of a company policy problem. The carriers are following local laws and FTC guidelines. It just happens that the money the carriers throw at governments writes these laws.
By targeting a specific industry the petition is less likely to gain traction. Targeting multiple industries with a more general petition about the freedom to use your property as you wish, or a petition to reduce corporate influence from the government would draw more attention.
Of course this still doesn't affect me since I'm not an American.
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While it is a real world problem it really isn't in the scope of lawmakers. This is more of a company policy problem. The carriers are following local laws and FTC guidelines. It just happens that the money the carriers throw at governments writes these laws.
By targeting a specific industry the petition is less likely to gain traction. Targeting multiple industries with a more general petition about the freedom to use your property as you wish, or a petition to reduce corporate influence from the government would draw more attention.
Of course this still doesn't affect me since I'm not an American.
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The problem of it being illegal to unlock your phone is actually limited to a specific industry and having broader range definitions don't always work, not to mention that it's hard enough to keep the laws and regulations current with the technology.
As far as petitions to limit corporate influence, that in itself is impossible on several levels. For one, there's "Citizens United" where thanks to "corporate personhood", corporations can spend unlimited sums of money on political contributions because doing is considered free speech. Then there are those members of our government with strong corporate ties, some of which have board member seats at one or more corporations.
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The problem of it being illegal to unlock your phone is actually limited to a specific industry and having broader range definitions don't always work, not to mention that it's hard enough to keep the laws and regulations current with the technology.
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The problematic law the makes it illegal to unlock your phone by circumventing some form of DRM is the DMCA. The DMCA makes it illegal to jail break an iphone, or just unlock the radio in an android phone so you can use it on another compatible carrier. Sadly this does not only effect the mobile phone industry. It makes it illegal to unlock any "locked" bootloader. This includes the PS3 (unlocking allows linux to run), original Xbox (allows XBMC to run), and almost all phones/tablets (to install new ROMs). This flaw in the DMCA has been used to prevent people from using the devices they own freely. Due to international treaties and the USA's supposed claim on many top level domains, this flaw has been allowed to spread to other countries.
Side note: Phone manufacturers (Motorla, Samsung, HTC, etc) aren't the main cause of locked bootloaders. The carriers are the ones who want and demand the locked bootloader. Since the manufacturers need the relationship (mostly because of subsidies and partly because carriers can refuse to allow phones to connect) they will comply with the wishes of the carriers.
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The problematic law the makes it illegal to unlock your phone by circumventing some form of DRM is the DMCA. The DMCA makes it illegal to jail break an iphone, or just unlock the radio in an android phone so you can use it on another compatible carrier. Sadly this does not only effect the mobile phone industry. It makes it illegal to unlock any "locked" bootloader. This includes the PS3 (unlocking allows linux to run), original Xbox (allows XBMC to run), and almost all phones/tablets (to install new ROMs). This flaw in the DMCA has been used to prevent people from using the devices they own freely. Due to international treaties and the USA's supposed claim on many top level domains, this flaw has been allowed to spread to other countries.
Side note: Phone manufacturers (Motorla, Samsung, HTC, etc) aren't the main cause of locked bootloaders. The carriers are the ones who want and demand the locked bootloader. Since the manufacturers need the relationship (mostly because of subsidies and partly because carriers can refuse to allow phones to connect) they will comply with the wishes of the carriers.
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Actually, "The legal shield for jailbreaking and rooting your phone remains up - it'll protect us at least through 2015."
source: https://www.eff.org/is-it-illegal-to-unlock-a-phone
I understand what you are saying, but it's tough enough to get the attention of lawmakers, it's an epic challenge to keep them interested long enough to do anything about it without spending disgusting sums of money.
So hold on its illegal to jailbreak an iPhone or unlock your android phone? I thought it just voids your warranty?! Edit: Nevermind didn't see that article there
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Actually, "The legal shield for jailbreaking and rooting your phone remains up - it'll protect us at least through 2015."
source: https://www.eff.org/is-it-illegal-to-unlock-a-phone
I understand what you are saying, but it's tough enough to get the attention of lawmakers, it's an epic challenge to keep them interested long enough to do anything about it without spending disgusting sums of money.
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Oh thank you for the link. I though all the phone related exemptions expired. While rooting is still protected, it was always a violation of the DMCA to "hack" a locked bootloader. Thankfully Motorola gave us the keys in 2011
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5 that is five signatures as of now...
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Only a few thousand more to go before it's given any consideration.
This should really be more about a general repeal of the DMCA and anti-circumvention than about phones specifically.
There is one petition already about it on the We the People site, but it won't let me post a link. Just search it for DMCA.
Hi everyone,
This petition (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7) is only 31,000+ from hitting 100k!
If we can get the xda community behind this we could easily hit this number!
Good luck, fingers crossed!
I think the petition hit the requirements!
Looks like the HTC U11 party might be over.
http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_reports_declining_revenue_in_july-news-26624.php
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Looks like the HTC U11 party might be over.
http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_reports_declining_revenue_in_july-news-26624.php
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Looks like fake news. The HTC U11 is the best on the market! What's more suspect is the guy who started this discussion did it on a Samsung. In my area Samsung has put out so much advertising on their new phone, but in contrast I haven't seen anything from HTC. I figure maybe HTC doesn't need to.
The best smartphone is always a subjective matter of opinion. Moreover, the term "fake news" is just thrown about way too often especially when the originater of the term doesn't even know what it means.
With that being said more and more posts are paying attention to HTC's lack of sales momentum.
By the way, I'm not a Samsung Fanboy as I do have a newer 6gb/128 U11 on order.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/08/htcs-revenue-july-drops-significantly-month-month.html
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This is actually better than I expected to be honest. The U Ultra was a major mistake on HTC's part and only having the U11 on Sprint in the US is big blow too. HTC should have been more competitive on pricing if they were planning on unlocked sales only, there are just too many attractive options in the sector that cost less. And let's face it, a lot of consumers would rather pay installments through their carrier rather than add a line of credit or pay it outright. I definitely don't like carrying this phone on my credit card but it's what I wanted and I wasn't going to settle for anything else.
I apologise to the op as this isn't aiming only at you, but don't we have enough threads already? Isn't this a comment that could of just been said in the general discussion thread?
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I apologise to the op as this isn't aiming only at you, but don't we have enough threads already? Isn't this a comment that could of just been said in the general discussion thread?
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No, not if you are one of those types that really want to stick it to HTC and help them fail. They can't hit the new thread button fast enough LMAO
markwebb said:
The best smartphone is always a subjective matter of opinion. Moreover, the term "fake news" is just thrown about way too often especially when the originater of the term doesn't even know what it means.
With that being said more and more posts are paying attention to HTC's lack of sales momentum.
By the way, I'm not a Samsung Fanboy as I do have a newer 6gb/128 U11 on order.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/08/htcs-revenue-july-drops-significantly-month-month.html
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So you know who the originator of the term "fake news" is?
It seems that there's a lot of things put out these days primarily to drive sales or support up or down usually by a competitor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news
It can't be fake news given the fact that HTC financial performance points to the fact that their sales numbers have declined.
As to why this has happened, we'll find out in the next weeks, when the audited financial statements are released.
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It can't be fake news given the fact that HTC financial performance points to the fact that their sales numbers have declined.
As to why this has happened, we'll find out in the next weeks, when the audited financial statements are released.
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That's sort of my point. The U11 is the one of the best if not the best device
HTC has ever produced and at the same time one of the least promoted devices. Does this mean that HTC is trying to devalue thier stock (which fell another 2.12% today). HTC and Asus are both Taiwanese companies that do well to a point and then seem to be held back...
I wonder what HTC's revenue is on both Pixels. They're not making them for Google for free.
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the sprint stores in my area dont even have the U11 on display. no exposure for the U11 here in the US. they need to make some commercials or something.
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the sprint stores in my area dont even have the U11 on display. no exposure for the U11 here in the US. they need to make some commercials or something.
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That's been their problem for years now. Carriers get kickbacks from Samsung so they try to shove Samsung down everyone's throats and HTC either doesn't advertise or does something horrible that doesn't promote the product at all.
Wow.. It's Really Over...
Divorce is really heavy $hit.. But sometimes, there simply is no other alternative. Without constant work by both parties to keep the union exciting, diverse and strong.. it's easy to see why one of the parties starts to get a straying eye.. in an attempt to "Recapture The Excitment" that makes a union worth having. :angel:
But it's cool... We both have already found New Companions... And I am truly glad that my former partner in Life & Love has found someone to take them in with a warm heart and open..obivous love..
I Truly Wish Them All The Best...
Goodbye My Dearest Honor 7x... You Were Truly One Of A Kind.
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Wow.. It's Really Over...
Divorce is really heavy $hit.. But sometimes, there simply is no other alternative. Without constant work by both parties to keep the union exciting, diverse and strong.. it's easy to see why one of the parties starts to get a straying eye.. in an attempt to "Recapture The Excitment" that makes a union worth having. :angel:
But it's cool... We both have already found New Companions... And I am truly glad that my former partner in Life & Love has found someone to take them in with a warm heart and open..obivous love..
I Truly Wish Them All The Best...
Goodbye My Dearest Honor 7x... You Were Truly One Of A Kind.
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You sir,
truly are a unique individual.
good day to your new happy-trails.
TF?
What is this?
What was the replacement model ?
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What was the replacement model ?
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From his posts, i think it's a Xiaomi Red Note 5.
I never understood his love/hate for this phone.
Since I bought the phone I have been watching this section and his posts caught my eye because of the very extreme love for the phone.
This phone is great for daily use and I came from a Xperia Z3.
Hope he is more satisfied then
Little late to this thread but man I'll miss you. You made XDA fun again :good:
What happened to your Honor 7X though?
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An Upgrade In Every Way..
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Little late to this thread but man I'll miss you. You made XDA fun again :good:
What happened to your Honor 7X though?
My Man!!!
What Up Bud! I heard you were tapping into my final 7x thread..
Sold it. Why?
Reason 1 ) The Snapdragon 636 is my "Dream Engine" for a device (Price / Performance). Qualcomm takes Great Pride in it as well.. and has worked with Google to give "Special Support" to 636, 660 and 845 engines which will make the upgrade to Android P happen much faster and provide Enhanced performance upon it's arrival
http://pocketnow.com/2018/05/09/qua...5-660-and-636-for-quick-android-p-integration
https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-android-p-863285/
Reason 2 ) Worldwide Development. Hell.. there are over 20 ROM's, A Half-Dozen Kernels and A Half-Dozen TWRP's here on XDA alone. plus Xiaomi EU. Global Beta's etc.
Camera has 4K E.I.S. capabilities and the Batterylife quite frankly has Knocked Me On My A$$.
4,000 maH battery.. and it "Sips" power.. now that I've conditioned it.. I'm getting 10 to 12hrs S.O.T. a day and I'm still hovering around the 50% mark... It's incredible!
( See Pic)
Reason 3 ) I got it on sale for only: $199.99.. It was meant to be :angel:.
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Global.
SquallPT said:
From his posts, i think it's a Xiaomi Red Note 5.
I never understood his love/hate for this phone.
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I NEVER HATED THE HONOR 7X.
In stock form.. I think it was a nice device.
I live in the U.S.of A. Huawei / Honor here is HATED by our government.. and our government is trying to force them down the same road that they sent ZTE packing down.
Not Good..
I support my government.. and if they have evidence that Huawei / Honor truely are spying on us through covert methods in their devices.. I want NO PART of that.
Here is a Direct Quote from the link I post above:
"Will Google work with other chipset producers like MediaTek and Huawei-owned HiSilicon to quicken updates? Well, the latter one sounds less likely than the former as the Chinese manufacturer is under investigation by the US government for sanction breaches and could be subject to an import ban just like its counterpart ZTE. Still, if Google is invested in getting Android P out faster, then it will want to work with MediaTek."
And.. A Question: for those of you who root.. has Huawei / Honor finally released "STOCK" firmware yet? either Nougat or Oreo ? another reason I did not stick around.. there were so many bricked devices all around the planet.. and the Company could care less about providing Software Recovery Support that was DESPERATELY needed.
It's just Too Much Drama going on with Huawei / Honor for "My" taste and for my morals.
Well I feel your pain. I bought this phone root and remove as much spyware and bloatware as possible. But I surely don't understand your love for the US government and hate for the Chinese. The US unlawfully spies on all of its citizens whereas the Chinese government lawfully spies on it's own citizens and just replicates the unlawfulness of US by spying on you and I
You Have No Comprehension Of What You Read...
RaiderWill said:
I live in the U.S.of A. Huawei / Honor here is HATED by our government.. and our government is trying to force them down the same road that they sent ZTE packing down...
I support my government.. and if they have evidence that Huawei / Honor truely are spying on us through covert methods in their devices.. I want NO PART of that..
It's just Too Much Drama going on with Huawei / Honor for "My" taste and for my morals.
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h2odiver said:
Well I feel your pain. I bought this phone root and remove as much spyware and bloatware as possible. But I surely don't understand your love for the US government and hate for the Chinese.
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Someone Told Me I Was Being "MIS-QUOTED" In This Old 7x Thread.. I See They Were Correct...
Let Me Ask You Something Odiver,
How's Your Comprehension?
Where Do You See Me Saying: "I LOVE MY GOVERNMENT" ???
I Said: I *Support* My Government. As Every U.S. Citizen Should.. A Person May Not Agree With Their Government's Every Move.. But You Do Support Your Government As A Whole Over Any Other Government On The Planet.
If You Don't Like The Way You Are Being Governed , Then You Should LEAVE The U.S. of A. For A Country You Precieve As One With "Greener Pastures".
Where Do You See Me Saying: "I HATE THE CHINESE" ???
The *United States Government* Wants No Part Of The Chinese Company Huawei / Honor's Products In The Hands Of U.S. Consumers.. Or This Company Having Ties With Companies Such As AT&T and Most Recently Google.. Because They Have Cause To Believe They Are Using Their Ties With These Companies For Backdoor Spying.
That's Not Me Making That Accusation.. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE CHINESE Personally.. I Just Want No Parts Of A Device Or Company That Has Raised Concerns In Regards To Domestic Privacy.
You Say.. "You Feel My Pain" ???
What Pain Do I Feel ???
I Felt Sorry For Those That Were Hurt By The LACK OF SUPPORT From Huawei / Honor. Your Device Was Released 8 Months Ago.. AND STILL THERE IS NO FACTORY FIRMWARE AVAILABLE FROM THEM..
Why Is That..? Because They Don't Care ?
I Did Not Need The Firmware.. ( Thank God I Did Not Root The 7x Which Made My Sale Of It Happen Almost Instantly ) But Many Users That Were Not Knowledgeable Enough, Rushed Into Rooting Their Devices.. And Got Into A World Of Hurt... And Had No Way Out.. No Help From A Company That's Suppose To Be "Root-Friendly" At Least According To Early Articles Here On XDA... Back In Jan-Feb-March.. Claiming Huawei / Honor Was "All-In" With The Development Community..
So.. No Pain..
Just Issues With The Kirin 659 Engine.. And It's Weak Gpu..
I Craved.. ( And Have Thankfully Obtained ) What I Believe Is *The Best* Engine For Price / Performance: The Snapdraogon 636 Coupled With The Adreno 509 Gpu...
And I'm So Good With That..
So.... If You Are Going To Put My Words In Your Print... Do It Accurately.
x2
Divorced my 7x awhile back and hooked up with a oneplus 6.
Wife is still sleeping with her 7x though.
Oh Hell Yeah...
trsix said:
Divorced my 7x awhile back and hooked up with a oneplus 6.
Wife is still sleeping with her 7x though.
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Dude...
That's Quite The Mistress You Upgraded To... :good:
Now It's Time To Find Your Wife A Better Lover... One That Is Not Under Investigation For Multiple Wrong Doings..
Remember The Cardinal Rule: " Happy Wife.. Happy Life ! " :good:
My New Love And I Are Having Quite The Time... She's A Real Go-Getter !
RaiderWill
My comment regarding "feeling your pain" was in reference to the lack of support and difficulty rooting this phone as compared to the others that I have owned. People root phones for many different reasons. My reason is to remove as much of the Google spyware as possible.
For some reason it appears that you differentiate between Google, At&t, Verizon and too many other companies to list that are enabling the US government to spy on it's citizens and foreign citizens and that of a chinese company spying on US citizens for it's government . You do remember Snowden don't you ? The US government is using US companies to spy on citizens around the world. The US constitution prohibits spying on it's own citizens. Do you realize that you are uniquely distinquished through your metadata. Are you familiar with the Cloud Act ?
No I don't fully support the US government and your comment telling me that if I don't I should leave just shows your blind allegiance. And as a matter of fact... Yes I am planning on moving within the next year to a country that has more freedom.
This is not the land of free. Everything in this country is regulated. Try to do something as simple as modify or repair your septic system with the government, build a home that is not made of the cookie cutter sort that is made using unique materials. Try taking a medicine that is natural and safe like kratom and watch as the special interests of big pharma get it banned. The police in this country are not here to serve and protect hence all the police cars are made to blend in vs the police in foreign countries where they are bright colors so you can spot them. Police here are nothing more than revenue generators. I am not a minority and I don't trust the police. The amount of corruption and pay offs in this country is no different than any number of third world countries. The companies and lobbyists are making the laws. This country is not of and by the people. The government manipulates the media, both mainstream and social media using tax dollars to promote their agendas.
yes the honor 7x probably has a chipset that is providing info to the chinese government but all chips that have been made in the last decade have been compromised by either the US govenment or the chinese government so there is no way around it. The US coming out against Huawei is nothing but the pot calling the kettle black.
Yes I can't wait to GTFO
Le'ts End This Right Here..
h2odiver said:
RaiderWill
No I don't fully support the US government and your comment telling me that if I don't I should leave just shows your blind allegiance..
This is not the land of free. Everything in this country is regulated.. The police in this country are not here to serve and protect hence all the police cars are made to blend in vs the police in foreign countries where they are bright colors so you can spot them. Police here are nothing more than revenue generators and I don't trust the police. The amount of corruption and pay offs in this country is no different than any number of third world countries. This country is not of and by the people. The government manipulates the media, both mainstream and social media using tax dollars to promote their agendas..
Yes I can't wait to GTFO
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Someone Expressed To Me I Should Come Back To The Honor Area To Defend Myself...
I'm Not Going To Even Attempt To Engage You.
The Comments You've Made... In A Simple "Goodbye To The Honor 7x" Thread.. Are QUITE FRIGHTENING For A U.S. Citizen.
And, Your Clear HATERED Of The United States of America Is...... SCARY... For Someone That Resides Here.
I Want N-O-T-H-I-N-G More To Do With You...... Whoever You Are.
I Agree............... You Should Leave Our Country As-Soon-As Possible.
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