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Let’s pretend that you’re a blogger. You’re given the chance to review new, hot hardware from a major company. All that’s required is that you participate in some tasks, but these tasks would fit into your coverage so you agree. In return you get to be one of the first to go hands-on with devices and give your opinion on them. Sounds like a good deal? Well that’s what a couple of Indian participants in Samsung’s Mob!ler program thought too, until Samsung threatened to leave them stranded in Berlin, Germany.
First let’s start with the facts. Programs such as Mob!lers (or Mobilers, for my sanity) are in place by many companies. In fact, I’ve even participated in one, for a company called STI, where I’ve done reviews of Kia and Mazda cars. But there’s one factor that differentiates programs such as STI from Mobilers – Only one of them expects you to become a shill for the company.
The story that follows is one of those that’s going to be hard to believe. We’ve done our very best to verify the facts, and we’ve heard the same tale from multiple sources and the end result has been the same in each case. That said, let’s go back in time a few weeks....
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Source: http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/...oggers-halfway-around-world-threatened-leave/
^^^wondering what you want...
Z3US911 said:
^^^wondering what you want...
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Spreading the word maybe? You want to keep this a secret? You working for Samsung?
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^^^wondering what you want...
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Ridiculous act by Samsung.Whatever sympathy they gained after the lawsuit is gone
Your judging the whole company based on the actions of one local branch of Samsung that was based in India.
Samsung are not to blame here but people employed at the Indian branch of theirs.
P.S That's typically the way Indians do business, the workers tend to get abused, they don't care about your rights.
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Very very clever from nokia... it was a cheap good advertisement
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I would just wear the damn shirt, and stray off to look at other products.
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Free flights for wearing a T Shirt?
Heck they are just bloggers. Not even real Journalists. They are lucky they are even given that. I wouldnt give them a free pen with the quality of internet blogging these days.
I am a Mob!ler in the UK and I will not comment on this incident as I do not know anything other than the same evidence you are presented with, however in an effort for you all to get the 'full story' please read this - http://www.amitbhawani.com/blog/samsung-mobilers-ifa-2012/
in summary - the guys would have known fully what was going to happen before he arrived in Berlin.
Why didn't they just wear the damn T-shirt?
Samsung flew them out for free, free accommodation, and these bloggers can't even accept a free T-shirt to promote Samsung???
Although you can't blame Samsung for an individuals actions.
Can you really blame Samsung for this when all that's needed is a verbal warning to an employee for his actions?
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LJE said:
Why didn't they just wear the damn T-shirt?
Samsung flew them out for free, free accommodation, and these bloggers can't even accept a free T-shirt to promote Samsung???
Although you can't blame Samsung for an individuals actions.
Can you really blame Samsung for this when all that's needed is a verbal warning to an employee for his actions?
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question is not about wearing a tshirt, it was as opposed to being a promoter to them being there as a reporter.
irzero said:
Free flights for wearing a T Shirt?
Heck they are just bloggers. Not even real Journalists. They are lucky they are even given that. I wouldnt give them a free pen with the quality of internet blogging these days.
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Couldn't have said it any better. How ungrateful can you get.
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how about this story? is that a correct way to treat a person?
http://int13.net/france/blog/i-won-a-contest-to-go-to-the-london-olympic-games/
she claim don't know "any information about the trip other than the flight number, the address of the hotel and some vague information about the other ambassadors who I would be meeting."
They new damn well what they were supposed to be doing before they went. They just wanted to go and not have to take part. It's aload of bull.
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LJE said:
Why didn't they just wear the damn T-shirt?
Samsung flew them out for free, free accommodation, and these bloggers can't even accept a free T-shirt to promote Samsung???
Although you can't blame Samsung for an individuals actions.
Can you really blame Samsung for this when all that's needed is a verbal warning to an employee for his actions?
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kofiaa said:
Couldn't have said it any better. How ungrateful can you get.
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They (K)new damn well what they were supposed to be doing before they went. They just wanted to go and not have to take part. It's a load of bull.
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Maybe some of you should have read the entire article and the one specifically about "Jeff" that followed. It wasn't "just wear a t-shirt", it was them being given the choice of being there as a reporter or a promoter. As bloggers, they stated they would be there in the capacity of reporters. Upon arrival, they were told they would be required to be in a Samsung uniform and work in a booth as a promoter. You have ZERO credibility as a journalist if you're known to have been actively promoting a product. Did you read this?
In the invitation email, Jeff reports that he was asked whether he’d like to attend as a reporter or as a promoter. He was insistent that he would only accept the offer if he was allowed to do so as a reporter.
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I've been to similar events (although not flown overseas) as a photographer. Was I there as a promoter or a reporter. I always choose Reporter. I may not be allowed to some private portions of the event, but I have unfettered ability to give an unbiased account...and not tow some company line.
Until I hear otherwise, I'll take Samsung at their word that this was a huge misunderstanding on the part of the local Sammy reps at the event. Big companies don't pull nonsense like that on journalists. That tends to bite you in the arse when every news site picks up the story.
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Maybe some of you should have read the entire article and the one specifically about "Jeff" that followed. It wasn't "just wear a t-shirt", it was them being given the choice of being there as a reporter or a promoter. As bloggers, they stated they would be there in the capacity of reporters. Upon arrival, they were told they would be required to be in a Samsung uniform and work in a booth as a promoter. You have ZERO credibility as a journalist if you're known to have been actively promoting a product. Did you read this?
I've been to similar events (although not flown overseas) as a photographer. Was I there as a promoter or a reporter. I always choose Reporter. I may not be allowed to some private portions of the event, but I have unfettered ability to give an unbiased account...and not tow some company line.
Until I hear otherwise, I'll take Samsung at their word that this was a huge misunderstanding on the part of the local Sammy reps at the event. Big companies don't pull nonsense like that on journalists. That tends to bite you in the arse when every news site picks up the story.
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Knowing how Samsung operate these events, no guarantees would have (or should have) been given before they left India as to if they would have been reporters or promoters, Samsung split these roles 50/50 for all Mobilers in attendance and don't decide before everyone arrives who is doing what.
Obviously I cannot comment on what was actually said in this instance or if either party is telling the truth, I can only tell you from what I have experienced myself.
(to any journalists looking at this! THE GUARDIAN! - do not use what I am saying without permission and certainly not if its incomplete or out of context - I do not know the facts of this case and I am merely commenting on my Experience as a Mob!ler which does not match in anyway what has gone on here)
Well, it is all hearsay at this point. Samsung did apparently acknowledge a misunderstanding. With them being in the media spotlight, I'm sure they're gonna do all they can to make this go away.
Who do they think they are? Im too good to wear a samsung T-Shirt? What did they expect to be treated like royalty? LOL
Anyways... Yes the people that worked for samsung at that indian branch may have done some very stupid things and said some stupid remarks and made samsung look bad. But samsung is not at fault I can guarantee you if the big boys at samsung heard this was going on they would of flew them home straight away.
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Who do they think they are? Im too good to wear a samsung T-Shirt? What did they expect to be treated like royalty? LOL
Anyways... Yes the people that worked for samsung at that indian branch may have done some very stupid things and said some stupid remarks and made samsung look bad. But samsung is not at fault I can guarantee you if the big boys at samsung heard this was going on they would of flew them home straight away.
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It's tough these days to really qualify people... "bloggers" for instance. That could be someone who is published regularly at CNET or someone who has a Wordpress blog with 3 subscribers. So, I guess I have to lump them all together and give them the benefit of the doubt.
If you're promoting a product, your credibility is zilch. There's a particular photography review site that was purchased by a large company that sells cameras and lenses. From that point forward, all their reviews are glowing. Because they're selling the products, too. They have zero credibility. I go there for the spec lists and disregard everything else.
So, these 2 dudes wanted to maintain journalistic credibility and I respect that. Say you were this "Jeff". A small-time blogger in India, and you pumped out some really high quality work that caught the eye of some major player like CNET, Verge, etc. They consider adding your stuff to their site. Oops- look, there's pictures of Jeff in a Samsung uniform working a show booth. Dude's a corporate shill. We can't take his work as unbiased. Next!
Like I said, this is all hearsay. And I'm just speculating and presuming the 2 articles were accurate. But IF they're true, maintaining credibility is vital in journalism.
While I agree with Mr. Crane's viewpoint (above), I must say that it is Samsung India that is at fault.
Also, I'd wear the t-shirt and do a bit of promotion work if Samsung is giving it all away for free. If I were a journalist, it would raise my online presence (by being at a special event and covering it myself). Then, after I have my hands on with the product (sometime after the launch), I'd give my full and honest opinion about it.
For example, I absolutely ADORE the S3. It's the best smartphone ever made. Period. BUT I do wish they'd given us more RAM. Is 1.2-1.5 gb of RAM too much to ask? I really don't want crApple beating us on this. Nothing is a match for the Note 2 but it's a tad too big for my taste.
Why is there no forum on XDA for Huawei Honor Note 8?! That phablet is 10x better than Honor 8 mid-ranger...
Because it was most likely not requested, check out my signature for a direct link for a forum request.
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You know, here is also no forum for Huawei Honor V8.
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I didn't know that, and didn't want to know that, because I don't care about mid-range phones with small screens. If you want to ask about another phone, be that V8 or something else - post your own question as a separate thread. There is no need to hijack this thread to talk about another device, my thread was not meant for.
Your thread shouldn't even be here, this is the Honor 8 Flagship forum.
Bl00dRunzC0ld said:
Your thread shouldn't even be here, this is the Honor 8 Flagship forum.
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Honor 8 is not "flagship", from any angle you look at it. It is classified as a mid-ranger on most tech blogs out there, and rightfully so. It doesnt crack the top 10 phones in any specs category. Since Huawei Honor Note 8 forum does not exist as of the moment of writing - I think it's reasonably appropriate to post a question about it here. If moderators decide later on it does not belong - it could be moved to Honor Note 8 forum, once created.
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Honor 8 is not "flagship", from any angle you look at it. It is classified as a mid-ranger on most tech blogs out there, and rightfully so. It doesn't crack the top 10 phones in any specs category. Since Huawei Honor Note 8 forum does not exist as of the moment of writing - I think it's reasonably appropriate to post a question about it here. If moderators decide later on it does not belong - it could be moved to Honor Note 8 forum, once created.
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Come on man, relax.. The dude is right, technically your thread should not even be here...but I choose to answer regardless without any form of negativity or any form of tension. Relax, simply redirect him to my response to yours...and we move on.
If anyone NEEDS to request a forum, posting in another device forum is technically not the best idea. All questions for new devices...whether "flagship" or not, should be directed here: Click Me
Let move along.
I already submitted forum request earlier...thanks for the tip though
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Honor 8 is not "flagship", from any angle you look at it. It is classified as a mid-ranger on most tech blogs out there, and rightfully so. It doesnt crack the top 10 phones in any specs category. Since Huawei Honor Note 8 forum does not exist as of the moment of writing - I think it's reasonably appropriate to post a question about it here. If moderators decide later on it does not belong - it could be moved to Honor Note 8 forum, once created.
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It's not about specs, it's about price....300$ to 500$ is a mid-ranger, and any thing that exceedes 600$ is a flagship.
PalakMi said:
It's not about specs, it's about price....300$ to 500$ is a mid-ranger, and any thing that exceedes 600$ is a flagship.
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That is literally, the most ridiculous, outrageous and lunatic assertion I've heard anyone make on XDA in the past decade. I wouldn't even know where to begin to tell you how very very very very wrong you are!
If you don't get a meaning of "flagship device" - go read some Wikipedia or dictionary definition, I guess.
According to your logic, most real high end devices from a country like China, for example LeEco phones, which have 4-6GB RAM, latest Snapdragon chip (820 or 821), or phones from Xiaomi with similar specs, which never cost $600 or more for reasons, obvious to everyone but you, are mid-rangers? And ****ty devices with 5 year old specs, with either Georgio Armani logo on them, or made out of gold, or covered in 38 carats of diamonds, which cost anywhere from 10 grand to 150k, are flagships?!
Wow... Don't embarrass yourself in public, do some reading and self-education, learn about different economies, price inflations, developing world markets, etc. before making comments like that. Phone price has literally ZERO impact in determining, whether the device is flagship or not. It is true, that in many markets the opposite is correct - device, which is a flagship, is priced higher, than other devices from the same region. However, there is absolutely no connection/correlation whatsoever in the opposite direction - device's price does NOT have any impact on it's classification as high-end, low-end, mir-ranger or a flagship device.
Apo11on said:
That is literally, the most ridiculous, outrageous and lunatic assertion I've heard anyone make on XDA in the past decade. I wouldn't even know where to begin to tell you how very very very very wrong you are!
If you don't get a meaning of "flagship device" - go read some Wikipedia or dictionary definition, I guess.
According to your logic, most real high end devices from a country like China, for example LeEco phones, which have 4-6GB RAM, latest Snapdragon chip (820 or 821), or phones from Xiaomi with similar specs, which never cost $600 or more for reasons, obvious to everyone but you, are mid-rangers? And ****ty devices with 5 year old specs, with either Georgio Armani logo on them, or made out of gold, or covered in 38 carats of diamonds, which cost anywhere from 10 grand to 150k, are flagships?!
Wow... Don't embarrass yourself in public, do some reading and self-education, learn about different economies, price inflations, developing world markets, etc. before making comments like that. Phone price has literally ZERO impact in determining, whether the device is flagship or not. It is true, that in many markets the opposite is correct - device, which is a flagship, is priced higher, than other devices from the same region. However, there is absolutely no connection/correlation whatsoever in the opposite direction - device's price does NOT have any impact on it's classification as high-end, low-end, mir-ranger or a flagship device.
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That's what I hear from many reviewers, flossy carter always say it
Apo11on said:
That is literally, the most ridiculous, outrageous and lunatic assertion I've heard anyone make on XDA in the past decade. I wouldn't even know where to begin to tell you how very very very very wrong you are!
If you don't get a meaning of "flagship device" - go read some Wikipedia or dictionary definition, I guess.
According to your logic, most real high end devices from a country like China, for example LeEco phones, which have 4-6GB RAM, latest Snapdragon chip (820 or 821), or phones from Xiaomi with similar specs, which never cost $600 or more for reasons, obvious to everyone but you, are mid-rangers? And ****ty devices with 5 year old specs, with either Georgio Armani logo on them, or made out of gold, or covered in 38 carats of diamonds, which cost anywhere from 10 grand to 150k, are flagships?!
Wow... Don't embarrass yourself in public, do some reading and self-education, learn about different economies, price inflations, developing world markets, etc. before making comments like that. Phone price has literally ZERO impact in determining, whether the device is flagship or not. It is true, that in many markets the opposite is correct - device, which is a flagship, is priced higher, than other devices from the same region. However, there is absolutely no connection/correlation whatsoever in the opposite direction - device's price does NOT have any impact on it's classification as high-end, low-end, mir-ranger or a flagship device.
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And speaking about it, here's a channel call it mid-ranger (look at gizmochina)
Apo11on said:
That is literally, the most ridiculous, outrageous and lunatic assertion I've heard anyone make on XDA in the past decade. I wouldn't even know where to begin to tell you how very very very very wrong you are!
If you don't get a meaning of "flagship device" - go read some Wikipedia or dictionary definition, I guess.
According to your logic, most real high end devices from a country like China, for example LeEco phones, which have 4-6GB RAM, latest Snapdragon chip (820 or 821), or phones from Xiaomi with similar specs, which never cost $600 or more for reasons, obvious to everyone but you, are mid-rangers? And ****ty devices with 5 year old specs, with either Georgio Armani logo on them, or made out of gold, or covered in 38 carats of diamonds, which cost anywhere from 10 grand to 150k, are flagships?!
Wow... Don't embarrass yourself in public, do some reading and self-education, learn about different economies, price inflations, developing world markets, etc. before making comments like that. Phone price has literally ZERO impact in determining, whether the device is flagship or not. It is true, that in many markets the opposite is correct - device, which is a flagship, is priced higher, than other devices from the same region. However, there is absolutely no connection/correlation whatsoever in the opposite direction - device's price does NOT have any impact on it's classification as high-end, low-end, mir-ranger or a flagship device.
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hey friend, let them talk.
I just received my Huawei Honor Note 8 and it doesn't feel like a flagship. It feels more like a flagship - RAPER. My Xiaomi Note Pro looks like a potato next to it. :laugh:
PS: I feel like insulting all other phone users around me when using this phone. It's just superb in almost every way.
sanein said:
hey friend, let them talk.
I just received my Huawei Honor Note 8 and it doesn't feel like a flagship. It feels more like a flagship - RAPER. My Xiaomi Note Pro looks like a potato next to it. :laugh:
PS: I feel like insulting all other phone users around me when using this phone. It's just superb in almost every way.
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And it costs half the price of other flagships, too... 5.3 million pre-orders can't be wrong - people know what they're investing in. Kirin955 chip is in the top 3 of all benchmark categories amongst all latest chips, and this is the only device in the world with 2k screen, which is bigger than 6.5". 4500mAh battery doesn't hurt either - you will find such battery size in less than a handful of devices worldwide.
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You know, here is also no forum for Huawei Honor V8.
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I just submitted a request for the V8 ..
Off topic post
jaybirdhawaii said:
I just submitted a request for the V8 ..
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Reported, as off-topic post. I have already previously asked very kindly - if you want to discuss another phone - make a thread for it. Do not hijack threads about other devices. I created this thread for Huawei Honor Note 8.
I am getting my Note 8 today (assuming DHL can find my place).
What's the best way to root it?
Daver69 said:
I am getting my Note 8 today (assuming DHL can find my place).
What's the best way to root it?
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Congrats, and that's an excellent question! To answer it, hopefully admins here will create a forum for this phone, where devs and users could post verified rooting method. This article offers a rooting method, but it's unverified by anyone I know or XDA, so if you wanna try it - do it at your own risk and report the results back here.
Since this is related to the phone in topic...
Question: are these the same phone?
http://www.vopmart.com/cs2013840.html
http://j.mp/2bArWKM
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_8-8231.php
The differences from the one in gsmarena are the colors, front camera, and 4400mAh battery.
Also, can somebody upload somewhere photos taken by their own Huawei Honor Note 8's camera? Unmodified, straight from the camera, with EXIF please. Hopefully with variations like bright scene, dark scene, etc.
Thank you very much.
KingRoot doesn't work as not enough requests for root yet on this model.
An issue I am having if anyone can help is with Play Store. When installing a large application, PS always closes before its finished downloading. Smaller ones are fine. I've disabled the power saving options for PS etc.. Its a weird one and I don't have this problem with my other Huawei.
https://club.hihonor.com/in/tips.267/daydream-screensaver-while-your-phone-on-charge.8141-1
Hii to all Honor 8 owners :laugh:
I am starting this topic couse every here and there I find in all of the threads
someone complain how the Huawei don't care and that they don't update
our phone in a good way or at least as promised.
So, the ones which are compain, they say like I paid the money for the phone
I want this or that and they are not satisfide with the phone couse it is an all around good
phone but you know, no xda support or something like it is a good value phone but
Huawei is bad and so on and so on.
Now I want this things to be discussed in this topic...
What do you think, will we get the android O update?
Why do you think Huawei is the one to be blamed?
Do you think they will not keep with the promise they gave to all Honor phones
and the 2 year software upgrade??
Are you dissapointed with this phone or just with Huawei??
Do you think you are not getting with this phone what you have paid for??
And lots of other stuff to be discussed in this topic and thread..
Now to give my opinion.
First I want to say I had a lot of smartphones
I was having from LG, Samsung, Sony and some other phones and now evan this Huawei
The first thing I notice is you guys complain in every xda thread the same and
not being real not for once for any phone
It goes like this
I will never again buy an Huawei or LG or Samsung or Sony or other phone like iPhone
I paid so much money but not getting the full software support, they just don't care about this phone
Then after like 7 days it goes like this is the worst phone I ever had.. do not buy that phone guys couse
it has an overheat issue when gaming..
It is not good for gaming at all
And so on and so on...
Well I must say that you guys always complain that you don't know how to buy your next phone
or you want it to be perfect for the money you paid.. so you are not real..
So lets be real just for once, how come evan an samsung s8+ owner after one or two weeks is
complaining about the phone?? And the usuall thing, I wont buy samsung no more!! LooOOooL
Dont you go and read about the phone what you are getting and what you will be paying for?
Dont you come over to xda to first ask for user experiance but after some time you come to
blaim some company for not giving updates like you DESIRE IT .. like every month.. regardless of
the REAL possibility to have such support??
I had so many phones wich not evan had what now the Honor 8 has.. I had phones wich had no
support not just from the manufacturer but also not on xda like couse my phone was in my region
with the bootloader locked with no possibility to unlock it ever!!
And I was stuck on what I get out of the box
So, long story short, why you guys always looking for the perfect one wich will have it all
like the best build the premium feel and the xda support and evan the support from the
manufacturer and then not getting it and come to blaim someone after like two weeks..
Can it just once be like.. I am satisfide with what I got??
My opinion you should be satisfide with the Honor 8
It has after like 10 months more then some more expansive phones
Not to evan say something about the premium feel and the build quality
So, lets discuss it now and here what you think overall of it.. not in every other topic..
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Posting this first will promote a better and more productive discussion.
BTW, the last time the Honor 8 FDR-L04/L14 were up-to-date with security patches was October 2016 when Huawei released B162 firmware. December security patch was released in February and that's the latest official we've got so far. Now the still to be released B385 update will bring us just up to March's patch.
I'm starting to see a pattern here now and is not good.
Hii @Dominikrod
Thanks for the link for the update policy
And yes it is not updated that fast.. like getting the march security in the late april or start of may
But is it really something to complain so much of it like some of users do?
What I want to say this is a very good phone not just for the price but it has right now more than some phones priced this much like the samsung A5 2016/2017 phones..
And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Hii @fernandoarafat
And yes if it is the best possible wich is Huawei doing right now I think
it is still good enough but thats just my opinion
But yes I do see that this promise thing you all are saying made you all disappointed
in Huawei..
But nobody is saying if they ever gave a time limit like when they will be releasing anything
to the XDA community... all I hear is no more Huawei I wont be buying anymore phones from Huawei
or the other stuff you are disaappointed..
I just have an idea... like if Huawei had talked first with someone who was in charge from the XDA community..
And some of us ( as I know some developers ) were contacting Huawei..
Why don't we ask the ''someone'' from XDA community ( who made this agreement with Huawei )
to ask for all the Huawei owners here on XDA what is going on??
I think we should ask for what is promised and ask
for some answers or some time limit when some of things will happen.
Anybody more intrested?? Or maybe did anybody already spoke to someone
and has already some info regarding this??
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Don't know if you remember this one but this is almost laughable!
This was Taylor speaking about their new Software Update Policy.
Taylor Wimberly, a customer acquisition manager at Huawei Technologies (which owns Honor), has even gone so far as to challenge other manufacturers to follow Honor's example. "I hope that by announcing this policy that we can change the industry for the better. Seriously, all OEMs should be doing this and I welcome them to join us."
I just tried to contact the XDA community
But after asking the things I was.. and hitting the red SEND button
to send my message to them.. well it just was sending and sending it forever..
So, I have saved the text in my notepad and will try later to send it
Or some other day..
If I succeed and if I get an answer I will report this back to all of you
brljak83 said:
And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
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Hi brljak83,
I'm not sure a 10 month-old phone counts as new device in this market, it's more of a passing one. The truth is that Huawei started quite nicely at the beginning but everything went down hill after November of last year. If you remember this phone was announced back in July/August and Huawei made all sort of PR stunts to convince prospect buyers that their product was the best choice in the $400 to $450 range, at least here in the USA market. I went ahead and bought for myself the $450 Honor 8 64GB at the beginning of that campaign. The Oneplus 3 was $399 at that time, but I wasn't happy with the way OnePlus treated OP2 and OPX owners, so I didn't wanted to do business with them anymore even though the OP3 was an amazing device for the price. Then OnePlus 3T happened and Huawei coudn't justify the overpriced H8 pricing strategy so retailers started discounting the Honor back in November. Some people may argue that H8 was not competing with the 5.5" screen phones but if you read carefully from the beginning that was their intention all alone. Actually some reviews I read compared it mostly with the OP3 and the Axon 7 since those phones are in the same price range or were.
Now mid May 2017, the OP3/3t and the Axon 7 64GB have Android 7.1.1 since April, plus both phones have been getting more frequent security update patches than the H8. And where are we? Still stuck with Android 7.0, December's Security Patch, battery drain issues and some old bugs that have not been fixed yet.
Now you tell me if Taylor Wimberly's August comment about other manufacturers should follow their example and commitment doesn't seem totally laughable.
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
fernandoarafat said:
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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"Next prize giveaway date: new rules and prizes coming in the spring!"
Wonder if that it's still valid?
Thanks for this one
fernandoarafat said:
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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Hii
Thanks you for that link
I tried last night to contact the XDA community to get some answers
But it failed..
Thanks to you I got someone to contact regarding the partnership
When and if I get an answer I will post it and report it back to all of you
So that all of you will know what has been told to me
Thanks for the help :highfive:
No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
Hii @SolarisSixth
Well, it is your opinion for this phone and I do respect it..
But for me I am not bothered so much by some of the bugs.. And I have them too..
And what I would say to you as an advice from my own experiance becouse I had a lots of phones
like LG or Samsung or Sony or iPhone it is always the same story
Belive me always they say bad or week support I wont buy it again..
So you will have to choose your next phone wisely not to end disappointed again in the same way..
Do a lot of reading about your next phone couse otherwise you will end up again disappointed
Why
Couse it is by all of them the same way and the same treatment
The only thing what I know is for the very most expensive phones ( Flagships ) they get a bit more
treatment and a faster treatment couse it is the best company gives to the customers and it is
the phone that represents the company as the best one they have for that year.. and then you get
a bit better support for bugs and stuff.. couse they dont want to be bad by giving the most expensive one
wich should represent the best face of the company
So if money is not an issue for you and you already choose with your wallet then go for the
most expensive one and still if you get such a phone still be happy with what you get..
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
However, kernel source release, which Honor tells us will happen in the near future for the Honor 8
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:laugh: There is a broad definition about "near future". Also, legally they HAVE to share kernel source, but who cares about the law anyway?
I have also a Honor 7. They stop supporting roughly 1 year after release. No source code, no Nougat update. I thought they improved something, but apparently no. What a sucker!
It's up to anyone to deal in whatever manner they see fit with Huawei/Honor false promises. What is not debatable is if it's fair to demand for those promises being kept.
I'm not expecting anything besides what the brand promised. And for that I cannot be pointed as being over-demanding or wanting the impossible.
I was afraid of ZTE Axon support but apparently they lead the game, a long with OP and Sony. And given the lottery regarding quality of components Huawei P10, it's just all a big red flag not to spend a cent with the brand.
For now, I will keep the H8 and milk it as much as I can, until I see fit to change. For another brand, obviously.
So here I am to report it back to all of you
This maybe some good news afterall..maybe
It is regarding the partnership with XDA and to give the source code to us.
Read more in the link below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
Well, i bought this phone at the end of March, this year. I bought it for 329€ on Amazon, and for that price at this specs i think it'a a very good phone, also considering that other similar phones costs even double this price sometimes. Afrer this i tried the phone and i just love it now. Fast, superb fingerprint sensor, good camera, good in gaming etc. The only thing i complain for is the GPU, could be better... However, talking about the software and updates, i think that we will get at least 7.1.1 (if Honor respect their promises). I'm not just talking however, i got in touch with Honor USA on Twitter and that's what they told me:
http://imgur.com/a/OSmLv Screen 1
http://imgur.com/a/RBBFb Screen 2
Ps. The first screen is from a pic that i saw on internet, related to another conversation with Honor USA (not mine). I just sent them this pic and tried to get a confirm from them...wich in the 50% maybe they gave me. Now i don't know if they will relase Android 7.1.1 with EMUI 5.1 someday, but i hope to see it. No hopes for Android O however...
What do you think?
Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
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Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
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Hi, i was talking about official updates, not XDA related. However, nice to hear that
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No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
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Honor is not pulling out of the US market and this has been confirmed by them. Can u please specify from where u got the information that they r leaving the US market?
Oh and they completely ignored my second question ?
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The new CEO wants to go back to tv and media. Hopefully s.o. will be buying Leeco's smartphone section and is just putting a new name on these nice devices
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/new-ceo-of-leeco-s-listed-arm-vows-to-dismantle-founder-s-vision
He also said " Leshi can build a business around its existing network by combining its TV and mobile audience" so obviously its not bad news. Why you all guys just think every news is bad news and you guys gives tittle. If Jim is replacing to automobile section and now they are more focusing on restructuring which is good. Atleast they are working not shutting their business and leaving market. Stay positive and please stop give such tittle.
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He also said " Leshi can build a business around its existing network by combining its TV and mobile audience" so obviously its not bad news. Why you all guys just think every news is bad news and you guys gives tittle. If Jim is replacing to automobile section and now they are more focusing on restructuring which is good. Atleast they are working not shutting their business and leaving market. Stay positive and please stop give such tittle.
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I don't think you understand the article right, as you look at the beginning of the part of your: " combining its TV and mobile audience" quote, it starts with:
"The aim is to focus around the smart TVs it produces..."
So it is not meant phones as they say mobile audience, but their streaming appearance.
Concerning phone sections already the headlines are telling us new Ceo wants to go back to their roots tv and media.
Or what about
“When a company is in a tough spot, it’s a good chance for a restructuring,” he said. “Our goal is to stop burning cash and bring Leshi back to profitability as soon as possible."
Is all that meant positive for the international growing phone section (which has never burned money we know )?
SO please explain me how I understand the article wrong once more and give me a better title please
Just want to give some news about leeco, and give that an appropriate title (and these are bad news for the phone section), so as I still have holidays I will stay extremely positive, thx for advices, lol.
See man !!! No one wants to finish his business even Jim is trying hard. It's not like they will abandon their whole mobile section. So chill, last few months they give 21s beta update to india. They are missing something. Even they denied the rumor mill of leaving india too. Now i would have 1year completed with le2. Only somehow i have to give another year or so on ( doesn't matter company exist or not) i will change my mobile. And thank god i never invested in their tv or other things. If they want to exist they will do probably everything yes that last worthy try to survive. Well enjoy your holidays, buddy.
Ya right, I don't think that it will effect us phone owners much now. Hopefully they will be able to release a Nougat version still. It is sad for the future. This Leeco is my first china phone with a homogenous display brightness, I tried Nubia and ulefone before which was very negative concerning this.
I would have bought a Leeco again, I like our Huawei Mate look very much.
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Ya right, I don't think that it will effect us phone owners much now. Hopefully they will be able to release a Nougat version still. It is sad for the future. This Leeco is my first china phone with a homogenous display brightness, I tried Nubia and ulefone before which was very negative concerning this.
I would have bought a Leeco again, I like our Huawei Mate look very much.
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I dont know why everyones heavily concerned that LeEco may never push the Nougat update out, yes I know LeEco is in a bad spot but, I dont know everything in detail regarding the current status of the company.
Honestly I think they will release a Nougat update for the Le S2/S3 and the Le Pro3, may not be now but im positive at least before the end of Q3 of this year
Just bad business if they dont release it, theres a lot of people who are satisfied with their devices and I dont see them failing to release Nougat anytime soon(again stupid mistake if so)
Well 5 people can develop a fully functional ROM Don't know why leeco is neglecting their mobile users if only leeco starts providing regular updates soon people will start trusting leeco and this may increase sales, for now they should drop EUI altogether as it requires so much work and concentrate of stock AOSP with added features .
never mind. delete
http://www.gizchina.com/2017/09/22/leaked-packaging-suggests-bezel-less-le-eco/
Lol they are nearly still producing packages
FridrufHau said:
http://www.gizchina.com/2017/09/22/leaked-packaging-suggests-bezel-less-le-eco/
Lol they are nearly still producing packages
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Good if you live in China. They seem to be fleeing non Chinese markets.
Guys & Gals.. Get Your Popcorn...
Good Times are close at hand for HONOR 7X owners ready to recieve the OTA...
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-oreo-emui-8-pro-9i-7x/
Here's hoping..
I'm New To Honor..
And I must say.. I'm impressed with the way that they handle their business.
After reading this quote from a View 10 article here on XDA.. I see that the Huawel / Honor Managemnt, R&D and Marketing divisons are really working towards catering to the Development Community.. More than I've seen in recent memeory in this age of "Lock Down This" and "No Signature Keys For That" era.. With Oreo & Project Treble and FULL ENCOURAGEMENT from this company in regards to Customizing each users experience to whatever level they disire.. This Says A Lot about their target market... (Huawei / Honor: It would not hurt to do this with the 7X either.. :good: )
Here's the quote:
“We are opening the AI source and bootloaders for the Honor View 10 to developers to be able to have access not only the AI APIs, but also root and give the opportunity ROMs,” an Honor spokesperson wrote in a post on the XDA Forums. “We want to see what some of you can do by having access to our AI ecosystem.”
What’s more, Huawei also said that it’ll supply 1,000 developers with Honor View 10 units to get popular custom ROM developers off the races, and that it’s already in contact with the Paranoid Android and LineageOS teams. If you’re a developer and interested in nabbing a phone for yourself, you can apply for one here. Alternatively, Huawei’s taking nominations for developers in the official announcement thread.
The Honor Open Source Program for the Honor View 10’s pegged for a late January 2018 rollout, and it’ll be exciting to see what comes of it. With access to Huawei’s open AI ecosystem, there’s no telling what exciting applications and ROMs developers will make.
Thanks a lot
How exactly do I return to stock. The only thing I've done so far is unlock the boot loader. Is there anyway to re-lock it?
I'm So Sorry..
RaiderWill said:
Guys & Gals.. Get Your Popcorn...
Good Times are close at hand for HONOR 7X owners ready to recieve the OTA...
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janitorjohnson said:
How exactly do I return to stock. The only thing I've done so far is unlock the boot loader. Is there anyway to re-lock it?
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Sir.. there is no way to get back to stock.. unless you have a supported variant at the DC website ( Link is somewhere in the 7x threads )
UPDATE: I FOUND THE LINK FOR YOU .. GOOD LUCK!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/how-to/unbrick-restore-stockrom-dc-phoenix-t3733347
Everyone, I'M SO VERY SORRY I EVEN POSTED THE LINK.
At the time I really believed Honor had their Sh!t together... and when they posted this:
"Honor View 10 and the soon-to-launch Honor 9 Lite come with EMUI 8.0 out of the box. Devices like Honor 8 Pro, Honor 9i, Honor 7X, and Honor 8 Lite, on the other hand, will get it in the near future"
Which is the last paragraph from the article... I thought they were being Honest & Truthful.
I don't know about you... but I don't consider *Will Get It In The NEAR Future* as being months and months away.
And now we know their is no Rhyme or Reason as to how they roll ANY update out.. it's almost a month after I 1st started the thread.. and they are not even close to even getting the 230 mb face unlock / ar update to 100% of devices...
Let's not even go there with EMUI & OREO.
So Again, I just want to say Sorry if I got anyone's hopes up besides mine.. to be let down so hard. :angel:
RaiderWill said:
At the time I really believed Honor had their Sh!t together... and when they posted this:
"Honor View 10 and the soon-to-launch Honor 9 Lite come with EMUI 8.0 out of the box. Devices like Honor 8 Pro, Honor 9i, Honor 7X, and Honor 8 Lite, on the other hand, will get it in the near future"
Which is the last paragraph from the article... I thought they were being Honest & Truthful.
I don't know about you... but I don't consider *Will Get It In The NEAR Future* as being months and months away.
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Yeah dude I don't think Honor should be held accountable for a vague release window speculated by XDA. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen any direct statements from Honor promising Q1 2018; all I've seen is a bunch of "through the grapevine" stuff and hearsay going back months.
Hey.........................Man...
mjtschmid said:
Yeah dude I don't think Honor should be held accountable for a vague release window speculated by XDA. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen any direct statements from Honor promising Q1 2018; all I've seen is a bunch of "through the grapevine" stuff and hearsay going back months.
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Yeah............................Dude,
Have you not been paying attention man........................... Dude.......... Honor & XDA are sleepin together man......
Far Out............. Huh Man ?
RaiderWill said:
Yeah............................Dude,
Have you not been paying attention man........................... Dude.......... Honor & XDA are sleepin together man......
Far Out............. Huh Man ?
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Haha sleeping together! :laugh:
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
RaiderWill said:
Yeah............................Dude,
Have you not been paying attention man........................... Dude.......... Honor & XDA are sleepin together man......
Far Out............. Huh Man ?
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Well I believe honor paid xda for some sponsored content? it's called advertising, not "sleeping together." But that doesn't mean everything xda says about honor is gospel. Plus xda sourced android authority, not huawei/honor, in the original article you posted.
Huh ?
mjtschmid said:
Well I believe honor paid xda for some sponsored content? it's called advertising, not "sleeping together." But that doesn't mean everything xda says about honor is gospel. Plus xda sourced android authority, not huawei/honor, in the original article you posted.
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What Does Any Of This Have To Do With The Way Honor Is Handling Business?
What does this have to do with Scattered Updates from Region to Region? (See Pics)
What does this have to do with Kernel Source being RELEASED IN DECEMBER.. And No Stock Nougat Image in site after 60 days?
If Honor is "Paying" for sponsored Advertisment, why are they allowing Mis-Information to be written and not corrected?
Timetables Not Being Met... Scattered Security Patches All Over The Planet... Not Even Able To Release *Retiring Nougat Stock Images* the list goes on and on...
The title of my Thread was 100% WRONG... It Should Have Read:
***A PRETTY COMPELLING REASON TO GIVE PAUSE FOR ENTRY LEVEL DEVICES***
See you in Late June Early July when the rollouts finally reach ALL the 7x devices that have been sold...
If I'm still an owner... :angel:
Look, there's plenty of valid criticisms to be made of Huawei/Honor, and you should switch to an OEM that is faster with updates if that's something that's important to you. But you keep saying they lied/broke some promise and you've still provided ZERO evidence of any such promise.
Your Honor...
mjtschmid said:
Look, there's plenty of valid criticisms to be made of Huawei/Honor, they lied broke promise Evidence.
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Your Honor,
(Please See Pics)
The Defense Rest..
RaiderWill said:
Your Honor,
(Please See Pics)
The Defense Rest..
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No, comments from random xda users do not prove that there was any kind of promise from Honor. If Honor made a statement saying Q1 Oreo for 7x, you should be able to link directly to that statement. But I feel like you're probably just trolling me so I'm done with this. Peace out :good:
Look dude, if you're unhappy with the phone or the service then jump ship. Put your phone on swappa.com and grab another one that is more to your liking. First you're writing about how people shouldn't be rooting and installing twrp and how we should leave everything stock. Now you're saying your sick of this and tired of that. It's tiresome man. **** happens. You think Huawei is the first oem to miss a deadline or say something and not come through? Every manufacturer has done something that some of the user base didn't like. Can't keep everyone happy.
Let's think hypothetically for a second. Let's say the pushed the oreo update right and it had numerous bugs and was just awful. Then you'd be right back in here saying they rushed things and you'd be complaining more. The only thing that I see as a problem is that they haven't released the stock firmware yet for the L24 but then again the phone has been out for not even 3 months. Could be worse. I bought my wife a note 3 before branded at&t and they never even allowed the bootloader to be unlocked. Rooting and putting a rom on there was a pain in the ass. You have your opinion and I have mine but here lately it seems all you want to do is piss and whine about how unhappy you are. You stated in another post how you might not be around by the time they release oreo, well why put off til tomorrow what you can do today, do everyone a favor.
The Bottom Line..
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No, comments from random xda users.
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Then Why Are You Typing In My Thread?
Because... YOU are a Random XDA user... you don't set any rules :laugh:
If there is something you want to see.. Go Look It Up... Do Your Research Kid..
str8stryk3r said:
Look dude, if you're unhappy with the phone or the service then jump ship...
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You Ok There Buddy ?
Here is a little friendly advice...
When you see a Post... Posted by "Raiderwill"........ *Don't Read It* *Move Away From It* *Just Say NO!* to this guy's post.
His Voice is not so powerful that if he says: ***I Order You To NOT ROOT YOUR PHONES!*** by Gawd You'd Better Listen!
So... Just Move past his post...:good:
You'll feel Much Better!
And will not have to vent so much.... it's ok ! You'll be alright :angel:
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Listen,
There are Goverment Phones...
Then there are phone's like the 7x.
Mid-Range Phones..
And *Flagship* Phone's.
I know my phone's station in the Hierarchy of things.
It's a $199.00 bucks.
I'm cheap... what can I say?
And one day sometime in 2018... ALL 7x's will have: EMUI 8.0, OREO 8.0, STOCK IMAGES, PROJECT TREBLE and just maybe.. everyone on the planet will actually have the Same Current Security Update at the same time...
Right???
RaiderWill said:
Then Why Are You Typing In My Thread?
Because... YOU are a Random XDA user... you don't set any rules :laugh:
If there is something you want to see.. Go Look It Up... Do Your Research Kid..
You Ok There Buddy ?
Here is a little friendly advice...
When you see a Post... Posted by "Raiderwill"........ *Don't Read It* *Move Away From It* *Just Say NO!* to this guy's post.
His Voice is not so powerful that if he says: ***I Order You To NOT ROOT YOUR PHONES!*** by Gawd You'd Better Listen!
So... Just Move past his post...:good:
You'll feel Much Better!
And will not have to vent so much.... it's ok ! You'll be alright :angel:
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Listen,
There are Goverment Phones...
Then there are phone's like the 7x.
Mid-Range Phones..
And *Flagship* Phone's.
I know my phone's station in the Hierarchy of things.
It's a $199.00 bucks.
I'm cheap... what can I say?
And one day sometime in 2018... ALL 7x's will have: EMUI 8.0, OREO 8.0, STOCK IMAGES, PROJECT TREBLE and just maybe.. everyone on the planet will actually have the Same Current Security Update at the same time...
Right???
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All I'm saying is all the pissing and moaning you're doing is accomplishing what exactly? Not pushing the oreo update any faster. Not releasing the stock firmware any quicker because you're going on a 50 post rant voicing your dislike for how they are running their business. I don't see a point. You're acting like a feminist at a really just getting on people's nerves
Why?
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All I'm saying
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You Are Not Saying Anything...
What in the world are you going on an on about?
Why do you keep quoting me?
Why are you still even concerned about my thread?? my opinion???
NOTING IS GOING TO CHANGE...
The 7x is... a bottom tier device... are you having trouble excepting that ? (DON'T RESPOND) it's a fact.
Are you having trouble excepting that Security Updates are at different levels all over the Planet.. I'm sorry but it's a fact.
Are you having trouble excepting that a device that is rooted at this present time has no easy way to return to stock if needed for WHATEVER reason after being on the market for over 2 months ? I'm sorry but that is also a fact.
If the taste of that is Unpalatable to you sir then I will advise for the 2ND TIME:
Don't Read My Opinions..
Don't Read My Threads...
It really is that simple..
I understand what buying a bottom tier device is all about.
Do You ?
Let's see if Honor can get all those updates out.. I for one, will believe it when I see it.. because there are complaints all over the planet... Past and Present.
There are those that understand what I'm saying... And those like you that don't... I've gotten Plenty of "Thanks!" concerning my opinion of Honor and their entry level 7x.
You need to just accept what it is and what are the facts as of this day and time with this sub-company of Huawei.
And stop these personal attacks! Why Are You Doing This?
Don't get mad at me for bringing these FACTS to light.
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Your Honor,
(Please See Pics)
The Defense Rest..
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That's not evidence, that's just a bunch of people chatting.
By the way, when you say 'the defense rests' that means you have no more evidence to present. If this is the only "evidence" you have, this means you actually have lost the case because you cannot present any further evidence.
--> I have no dog in this race nor do I own this phone, but I did think it was funny that you rested your case after not presenting any evidence
Yeah I'm done listening to your nonsense. You're just one of those people who like to argue just for the sake of arguing. Ofc I understand this is an entry level/bottom tier device but at the same time I'm not the one *****ing about it either so there's a fact for you. I bought this phone because for the price it is a decent phone and works fine for what I need it for. I knew it was new on the market and that development would take some time to pick up pace. I didn't know much about Huawei but I don't see them being very different from any other manufacturer. Most companies don't give specific dates. It's always the blanket statement time frame estimates. But apparently you live in a world where everything is on time exactly when it was supposedly said and everything runs perfect and if there is any deviation of how you think it should be you throw a temper tantrum like a 3 yr old that didn't get their juice box. Grow up. **** happens. Answer all you want but I'm not replying to any more crying about how unhappy you are and how unfair big bad Huawei is being.
Finally..
EXCELLENT!
Finally....
Neither of you bring Any Relevance to what this thread is about..
Because you are not changing anyone's mind here..
The people have spoken all over the planet about the 7x and the issues they've had with patches, updates, past experiences, lack of concern on Honor's part.. etc.
I've spoken of why would anyone really want to root *with no way back* and the 7x having been out for MONTHS and folks have no way to return to stock.
And mainly: TO RECIEVE THE O.T.A.' s
You have to be stock to get those.
You see people asking "how can they return to stock? " throughout the threads.. and god bless'em they have no way to do so.
That Sucks.
Everything said on XDA DOES NOT APPLY TO *YOU*
If I took everything everyone has said in the last 6 years I've been hanging out here to My Personal Heart.... I would have lost my mind long ago.:laugh:
I LOVE my 7x... I accept it's the entry level deivce.. thus the $199.00 price.. my opinion is you get ZERO advantage rooting at this time.
It has Themes, DPI adjustments, the ability to remove apps without root, great battery life, and decent speed.. even with the 3/32 variant that I own.. And your $199.99 dollar investment runS *100% Stable and 100% Fully Functional*... you don't need backups of stock firmware.... but, as a company.. don't promote rooting and a system to unlock one's bootloader.. and make it a One-Way Suicide trip to Root Oblivion and not extend a hand in the form of stock firmware to pull them out should they need it.
Someone said in a Quote " Hell they had firmware mold to install it on everyone's 7x... why can't they just release that? "
Makes Perfect Sense To Me..
Again I Don't Like Being Lied To.
If the articles that were out there in Jan. stating these updates are "Coming Soon" and they were not.. Honor should have jumped in an clarified dates..... Immediately.
They did not.
Accept that your beliefs are not everyone elses.
Accept that others views might not align with yours.
Agree to Disagree...
There is No Need to insult people in threads like you've done.
Just move on to another thread.