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Battery failure during 1st extended usb trickle charge

Well, I don't think I had seen any yet but I might be the first device/battery failure as a result of using one of the new superior charging kernels.
I have been using the Netarchy 4.2.2 beta kernal (aggressive with havs) I believe and everything has been fine for the past week or so.
This afternoon I plugged my phone into USB and laid down for a nap. I woke up not long ago and my phone is completely dead now. It will not power on or indicate that it is plugged in or anything. I don't have another battery to test, but could it just be a battery failure? Or is it possible the whole device is hosed?

deathsled said:
Well, I don't think I had seen any yet but I might be the first device/battery failure as a result of using on of the new superior charging kernel.
I have been using the Netarchy 4.2.2 beta kernal (aggressive with havs) I believe and everything has been fine for the past week or so.
This afternoon I plugged my phone into USB and laid down for a nap. I woke up not long ago and my phone is completely dead now. It will not power on or indicate that it is plugged in or anything. I don't have another battery to test, but could it just be a battery failure? Or is it possible the whole device is hosed?
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Anything is possible. Chances are that it was not the kernel though. Try a different charger and maybe a different battery. If all else fails take it in for repair.

How full was your battery before you plugged it in? You could try pulling the battery and waiting an hour or so before putting it back in and powering on.

I was down to about 30% when I plugged it in so it was getting a full charge. I remember getting a phone call during my nap that I ignored. When I finally got up the device was completely dark. I've got it unplugged and the battery out for now. Hopefully it will power back up in an hour or so....
If not I will have to try a buddy's battery in here tomorrow to see if that does anything. If not I'm simply out the device, there is no "taking it in for repair for me" unfortunately.

I hope it powers back up for you. If not, it would be good to try your friends battery so you could start trouble shooting.

Was this the original stock battery?
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Try a different cable. A little while back I thought my phone borked on me as it would not charge even though the charge light was on. When my wife's did the same thing I got suspicous and tried a different cable. Like magic, the problem went away.

I don't think the phone is hosed, might be just the battery, I had that exact situation happen to me back in december, when plugged in theres not even a light. I tried drastic measures to get it working even heating the battery to 120f for 5 min then letting it cool for 10 over and over, it finally worked when I got to a sprint store and they plugged it in to one of their wall chargers, I was shocked after hours of doing things with no results. to this day im still using the same battery and it has the same life as when new
still using sbc kernels too

been running SBC and have had no negative effects

Original red oem battery. I've tried my usb cable and my 2 wall chargers so far. Still no lights.
I did see the screen blip on for a fraction of a second a moment ago while pressing at the the power button, so that gives me glimmer of hope. About to see what happens with a car charger on the way over to my friend's to try another battery.
Wish me luck!

The fact that you where using the SBC can mean absolutely nothing. I have a friend with an Evo as well, I flashed every experimental kernel and Rom I can find and have had no real issue, hardware wise. Him, on the other had, had only updated via the Sprint OTA, never flashed any custom roms or kernels, never even Rooted.
one night while texting a reply to me, his phone flat out died. it was plugged in and everything, just went black and charge light went out. I put my battery in his phone the next day, swapped SD cards, etc,etc. nothing brought it back to life, it was gone.
Sprint actually replaced it for him, just tell them that you where simply charging it and it wouldn't turn on the next day. they won't be able to get it to boot up because it's dead.. no idea why his did it, I kindof feel that is what happened with yours. I don't think the kernel had anything to do with it.

Well it's been confirmed to be the battery by trying another one.
Today is the first time I've ever let the phone do an extended charge over USB using one of these sbc kernels and the battery just happens to take a **** during the process? That's one killer coincidence...

try the battery again tomorrow out after sitting for a bit, it will charge and work again

deathsled said:
Well, I don't think I had seen any yet but I might be the first device/battery failure as a result of using one of the new superior charging kernels.
I have been using the Netarchy 4.2.2 beta kernal (aggressive with havs) I believe and everything has been fine for the past week or so.
This afternoon I plugged my phone into USB and laid down for a nap. I woke up not long ago and my phone is completely dead now. It will not power on or indicate that it is plugged in or anything. I don't have another battery to test, but could it just be a battery failure? Or is it possible the whole device is hosed?
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This happened to me when I was using a Zendroid kernel a couple weeks ago. You should be able to just plug your phone back in and charge it again. The orange light may blink at first or not turn on for a couple minutes, but it should charge.
I'm honestly not entirely sure, though. I put my dead battery in my sister's Evo, and the light thing is what happened to me. I let it charge in my sister's phone, and it turned out fine. Worked in the morning. Hopefully, you can do it in your own phone if you don't have another way to charge it.

deathsled said:
Well, I don't think I had seen any yet but I might be the first device/battery failure as a result of using one of the new superior charging kernels.
I have been using the Netarchy 4.2.2 beta kernal (aggressive with havs) I believe and everything has been fine for the past week or so.
This afternoon I plugged my phone into USB and laid down for a nap. I woke up not long ago and my phone is completely dead now. It will not power on or indicate that it is plugged in or anything. I don't have another battery to test, but could it just be a battery failure? Or is it possible the whole device is hosed?
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4.2.2 should not have SBC.

It would not be surprising to hear that a stock battery just quits working. Sprint replaces these for peeps all the time. Li-Poly batteries are cheap to produce and like anything else, there are always bad ones in the bunch.
Seriously doubt it was caused by whatever is loaded on the phone otherwise there would be more coming up with same issue. Unless there is something with the beta and USB charging method. Still doesn't sound very likely.

deathsled said:
Well it's been confirmed to be the battery by trying another one.
Today is the first time I've ever let the phone do an extended charge over USB using one of these sbc kernels and the battery just happens to take a **** during the process? That's one killer coincidence...
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What does your Battery Monitor Widget log say?

deathsled said:
Well it's been confirmed to be the battery by trying another one.
Today is the first time I've ever let the phone do an extended charge over USB using one of these sbc kernels and the battery just happens to take a **** during the process? That's one killer coincidence...
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That is a killer coincidence...but I do believe it is just a coincidence. I am at CES right now (well prep meetings and such) and the only way I charge when I travel is through USB. I have been using the 4.3 with SBC straight off of Net's thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763) and have had no issues. Good to see you have your phone back, but I am willing to bet it was a faulty battery, not the kernal.
Hope it doesn't turn you away from the SBC kernals, it is so much nicer to see it stay between 100% and 90% for hours on end instead of 10 minutes like before.

It's the kernel from my experience mostly tied to sbc kernels. My phone did the exact thing. I mean exact. Pulled battery, used different cables etc. One thing I did not use was the OEM HTC charger. I have PCs around me all the time or the car charger. My phone died in my room where I have other wall mounted usb chargers. Didn't think anything of it. A few hours later phone died. It was 54% or so when I plugged it in. I came back to a dead phone. Nothing i tried initially worked. Sprint tech support same thing. I knew they couldn't resolve it. I have spare batteries but this OEM battery was too new. I wanted to know the problem so as to not repeat it. Sprint offered to replace my phone but I said let me get back on that. Since I knew the kernels were playing with voltage and that over or under voltage can mess with the phone. I plugged the OEM HTC wall adapter in and sure enough I had a orange blinking light. I waited for a few mins. Booted into recovery and installed a nandroid backup with sense. It booted great and guess what my battery percentage was? 55%. The battery did not die but the system shut down and it wanted the exact voltage from the HTC charger to kick start it. Since then for me personally I have stayed away from sbc kernels. It might work for some but not for me.
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mrmomoman said:
It's the kernel from my experience mostly tied to sbc kernels. My phone did the exact thing. I mean exact. Pulled battery, used different cables etc. One thing I did not use was the OEM HTC charger. I have PCs around me all the time or the car charger. My phone died in my room where I have other wall mounted usb chargers. Didn't think anything of it. A few hours later phone died. It was 54% or so when I plugged it in. I came back to a dead phone. Nothing i tried initially worked. Sprint tech support same thing. I knew they couldn't resolve it. I have spare batteries but this OEM battery was too new. I wanted to know the problem so as to not repeat it. Sprint offered to replace my phone but I said let me get back on that. Since I knew the kernels were playing with voltage and that over or under voltage can mess with the phone. I plugged the OEM HTC wall adapter in and sure enough I had a orange blinking light. I waited for a few mins. Booted into recovery and installed a nandroid backup with sense. It booted great and guess what my battery percentage was? 55%. The battery did not die but the system shut down and it wanted the exact voltage from the HTC charger to kick start it. Since then for me personally I have stayed away from sbc kernels. It might work for some but not for me.
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Um, SBC and undervolting/HAVS aren't the same thing.
SBC is a new, experimental charging method that "just" came out.

How many got N4 bricked because of Red Light

I just wonderding how many ppl here got red light issues?

had this problem just now. discharged battery and wont turn on.

Ive had it 4 times lol get to bootloader flash to stock reflash rom all good to go
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how?
joshndroid said:
Ive had it 4 times lol get to bootloader flash to stock reflash rom all good to go
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i've tried all the power + volume combos...how did you get to bootloader?

If people just let their phones charge undisturbed overnight and tried the next day to boot, that number would be -80%..

I bricked my N4 by accidentally flashing a wrong bootloader - a simple error that proved fatal!
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jchoong said:
I bricked my N4 by accidentally flashing a wrong bootloader - a simple error that proved fatal!
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That would brick basically any phone. You don't play around with flashing the bootloader unless you're sure.

Got the red light once while doing benchmarks.. But i was able to get into bootloader mode reflash system img.And bam i was good to go..

Dang man, this same problem is happening to the LG Optimus G. There is a thread on xda for that phone and the op says to take the back cover off, disconnect the battery then reconnect it and that fixes it. Maybe worth a shot on the nexus.?? That is if you don't want to reflash the phone.
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lyall29 said:
Dang man, this same problem is happening to the LG Optimus G. There is a thread on xda for that phone and the op says to take the back cover off, disconnect the battery then reconnect it and that fixes it. Maybe worth a shot on the nexus.?? That is if you don't want to reflash the phone.
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Why you want to do it the hard way that void the warranty than the easy way?
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I plugged on my friend's car charger and suddenly my phone turned off and wont turn on.
When I plug on charger or USB and keep holding power, red led blinks many times, faster and faster.
My computer wont recognizes it.
Any solution?

rsb007 said:
I plugged on my friend's car charger and suddenly my phone turned off and wont turn on.
When I plug on charger or USB and keep holding power, red led blinks many times, faster and faster.
My computer wont recognizes it.
Any solution?
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Holy crap. It's literally IN THIS THREAD.
Leave it on your charger for several hours and see if it boots. If not, it's probably RMA time.

It's plugged for about 10 hours and nothing.
I live in Brazil, no sells here yet and it was bought on USA.

richteralan said:
Why you want to do it the hard way that void the warranty than the easy way?
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I was just mentioning other options just in case someone couldn't get into the bootloader. What if you send the phone to lg because you couldn't get into the bootloader to reflash and they can by disconnecting the battery and find out that you are unlocked and rooted when the phone boots back up, which would also void your warranty. Although I would not take the back cover off if the phone was stock, might as well send the phone back if you can't get it to boot.
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rsb007 said:
It's plugged for about 10 hours and nothing.
I live in Brazil, no sells here yet and it was bought on USA.
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I am in exactly the same situation as you. Prospects to resuscitate our bricked Nexus 4 are extremely dim!

Im wondering if what is posted Here may cause this issue?
Please, any advice will be thanked.

donchele said:
Im wondering if what is posted Here may cause this issue?
Please, any advice will be thanked.
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You seem to know very little about how chargers, batteries and charging circuitry works. To put your mind at ease, a USB 2.0 port is rated at 5V DC, 500mA. That will charge a Nexus 4, albeit slowly. Your 0.7A charger isn't going to fry anything, as there are multiple safeties built in, unless something is SEVERELY wrong with it, meaning faulty construction.

estallings15 said:
You seem to know very little about how chargers, batteries and charging circuitry works.
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Yup, that is the reason im asking
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To put your mind at ease, a USB 2.0 port is rated at 5V DC, 500mA. That will charge a Nexus 4, albeit slowly. Your 0.7A charger isn't going to fry anything, as there are multiple safeties built in, unless something is SEVERELY wrong with it, meaning faulty construction.
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So you are telling me that, unless there is any issue with the charger (faulty construction) there is no reason to worry about that it will lead to this "Red light of death" or any other issue (lowering battery lifetime for example)?
This is totally off topic but, Do you (personally) think it's true what people say that charging a cellphone with a lower output charger increases its battery service?

Quick question:
Does this red light issue appear when battery is drain to 0% (among other factors)

donchele said:
Yup, that is the reason im asking
So you are telling me that, unless there is any issue with the charger (faulty construction) there is no reason to worry about that it will lead to this "Red light of death" or any other issue (lowering battery lifetime for example)?
This is totally off topic but, Do you (personally) think it's true what people say that charging a cellphone with a lower output charger increases its battery service?
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There is no reason to worry unless the charger or your phone is faulty, in other words, hardware failure on either side. Unfortunately there would be no easy to foresee that.
The charging circuitry will only use what it needs to do it's job. As long as the voltage is within range and the current is not too LOW, you're OK. The N4 is rated at 900 mA to perform a standard charge. It will accept as low as approx. 500 mA to charge in USB mode. That idea is rubbish.

[Q] Galaxy s4 stops charging off wall charger.

I somewhat recently got an AT&T Galaxy S4 and it was working great, until I went to charge it. It seems that most of the time, when I plug my phone in to charge at night, it stops charging after about 10 minutes. I am already asleep by this time so when I wake up, I'll have like 40% battery left.
I have tried different chargers, cables, sockets, just not a new battery.
Any tips to try before buying a new battery to test? Also, what's a good slim battery for a general user?

xProtify said:
I somewhat recently got an AT&T Galaxy S4 and it was working great, until I went to charge it. It seems that most of the time, when I plug my phone in to charge at night, it stops charging after about 10 minutes. I am already asleep by this time so when I wake up, I'll have like 40% battery left.
I have tried different chargers, cables, sockets, just not a new battery.
Any tips to try before buying a new battery to test? Also, what's a good slim battery for a general user?
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Personally I think you should call it in to get it replaced. See my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349098&highlight=battery

Faluzure said:
Personally I think you should call it in to get it replaced. See my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349098&highlight=battery
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I was hoping I wouldn't have to switch it. Oh well, as long as it works. Thanks!

xProtify said:
I was hoping I wouldn't have to switch it. Oh well, as long as it works. Thanks!
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Yeah... well i mean it may not be the same issue I had but it's better safe than sorry, you know? The warranty is still valid, so might as well take advantage of it.
But in your case, at least it's charging and you're maintaining some sort of usable phone. Mine was dead for 2 whole days.
I would go ahead and call today because they ship Next Business Day. Meaning you'd get it tomorrow (if it's not too late). I had to wait 2 days because of the 4th of July.

Heating problem

Last night I've put my phone to charge until morning, and I've put the phone under a pillow because I have a one person bed and I don't want to hit it with my legs. In the morning, when I took the phone out....
The phone was extremely HOT! And I know where the parts are in this phone, and not the motherboard heatead up so much, the battery! I was so scared because this thing could explode in my hands or could've exploded last night.
Also, when I saw the phone the notification led was blinking blue, but after cooling the phone I couldn't see any notification. Is that a alert or something to say that your phone is hot?
I don't want to have a "note 7" clone when charging in my house.
I have this phone for just 6 months. Also the battery right now drops percent like per minute, really weak.
Does anyone had this problem too?

Here are screenshots:
Also, I am not using original charger because was too slow. I am using an 5V 2A charger. Now my battery stays at "normal" at 40C°
Is that normal?

XTutorials said:
Here are screenshots:
Also, I am not using original charger because was too slow. I am using an 5V 2A charger. Now my battery stays at "normal" at 40C°
Is that normal?
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I have found this in my manual. I will keep my eyes all day on my phone and will see if I will go to the service or not.
But I have bootloader unlocked, the phone was disassembled before, the water indicator is red, so I'm going to have to pay.

It happened to me. One thing I noticed that my phone was in wake lock. It never happened to me again. I think I was using LOS 14 at that time.

Suleiman01 said:
It happened to me. One thing I noticed that my phone was in wake lock. It never happened to me again. I think I was using LOS 14 at that time.
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I am using persona78's B600 mod. I hope this thing doesn't happen to me again too.

XTutorials said:
I don't want to have a "note 7" clone when charging in my house.
Does anyone had this problem too?
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Every phone has heating problems. Few days ago i readed some articles and that stated: consumers should remove the custom cases when charging the phone. Do not keep your phone while charging on surfaces that stores heat (eg. your pillow), and try to not keep your phone on charge overnight. Even if its at 35-45% you should leave it so and wake up 30 min earlier every morning and charge again if you need more battery. 100% charge its not a good idea.
Remember you cant change battery easy, removing the back case its a pain, try to take care of your device, or you gonna buy a new phone soon

XTutorials said:
Here are screenshots:
Also, I am not using original charger because was too slow. I am using an 5V 2A charger. Now my battery stays at "normal" at 40C°
Is that normal?
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Of course not......You are using 2A charger.....It would obviously heat your device up
and yes ......2 A charger won't help with speeding up charging it would burn your IC instead..Your phone won't take in more than 1 Amp thats a factory limit and can't be unlocked without a custom kernel but still it's not safe.. Don't use that charger .....It's a placeboo that it charges faster ?

HaiderHady said:
Of course not......You are using 2A charger.....It would obviously heat your device up
and yes ......2 A charger won't help with speeding up charging it would burn your IC instead..Your phone won't take in more than 1 Amp thats a factory limit and can't be unlocked without a custom kernel but still it's not safe.. Don't use that charger .....It's a placeboo that it charges faster ?
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What the ****, thanks. I will come back to the original charger.

12 Hours For Full Charge

Hi all,
My phone takes 12 hours to get full fully charge, whether it's being charged while turned on or off, which means that it's not an app related issue.
The battery lasts for most of the day and does not seem to be completely depleted, even though i'm getting less battery time than when it was new.
It behaves the same with multiple chargers\cables combination that i tried, including the original ones.
Can that be a battery issue if the battery is still giving me a relatively ok (though nothing like when it was new) operation time?
Thank you

ferez said:
Hi all,
My phone takes 12 hours to get full fully charge, whether it's being charged while turned on or off, which means that it's not an app related issue.
The battery lasts for most of the day and does not seem to be completely depleted, even though i'm getting less battery time than when it was new.
It behaves the same with multiple chargers\cables combination that i tried, including the original ones.
Can that be a battery issue if the battery is still giving me a relatively ok (though nothing like when it was new) operation time?
Thank you
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Either the battery or damaged pins
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Leo_83 said:
Either the battery or damaged pins
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Thank you for your reply,
Iv'e tried to visually speculate the pins, they seem mostly ok, so battery it is?
I always thought that a faulty battery that takes excessive time to charge, will also give very little usage time, so you say it's not always the case?
Thanks

ferez said:
Thank you for your reply,
Iv'e tried to visually speculate the pins, they seem mostly ok, so battery it is?
I always thought that a faulty battery that takes excessive time to charge, will also give very little usage time, so you say it's not always the case?
Thanks
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There other reasons could be faulty charger, wrong charger (500ma/1A model) , software on the phone draining battery when on charge (some apps can operate in different ways when on charge), check your power graph, the charge cycle should be a steep line up, anything else may be one of the above.

Yeah, that's why iv'e mentioned that i tried multiple chargers\cables (Including the original which is in very good shape), and while the phone is shut down and charging it behaves the same, so that takes software issue out of the equation.
I'm just curious to know if that is possible for a faulty battery to behave like that = very slow charging times, but still giving an acceptable usage time

Just replaced the battery to anew one....phone still behaving the same....
Assuming it is not a charger or a cable issue, the only suspect is the USB PCB board in my phone, isn't it?

Iv'e replace the battery, and also the USB circuit board, but no change in charging time!
I'm puzzled :S

ferez said:
Iv'e replace the battery, and also the USB circuit board, but no change in charging time!
I'm puzzled :S
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I had the same problem for a long time.. still do.. asked a lot of people about the solution but finally I found one by chance.
Use a charger which is 4amp 5volt .. trust me.. it works.. if you can't find it anywhere, look for oppo service center . Buy the charger for oppo f1 plus..

gandotratushar said:
I had the same problem for a long time.. still do.. asked a lot of people about the solution but finally I found one by chance.
Use a charger which is 4amp 5volt .. trust me.. it works.. if you can't find it anywhere, look for oppo service center . Buy the charger for oppo f1 plus..
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So with this kind of charger, how long does it take to fully charge the phone?
Thanks!

ferez said:
So with this kind of charger, how long does it take to fully charge the phone?
Thanks!
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Not more than an hr and a half...

gandotratushar said:
Not more than an hr and a half...
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Thank you man,
It's still a workaround but it can greatly improve things and extend the life cycle of this device.