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Incredible not charging battery properly/fully

Has anyone experienced this issue, seems as tho when I charge my battery to 100% it takes less then 30m before it discharges to 92-92%.
This is happening with the original battery and the Seidio extended battery that I have.
Is there a fix for this, or is this something I should call VZW about. A lot of people at androidforums have been having the same issue.

http://androidforums.com/tips-trick...first-10-battery-drain-quicker-than-rest.html

ufvj217 said:
http://androidforums.com/tips-trick...first-10-battery-drain-quicker-than-rest.html
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Yeah, I've read this, is everyone having this issue, or just certain phones? The battery "trick" does not work for me.

i think everyone has the problem. the "trick" didnt work for me either or my friend, unless we're doing it wrong. i think its a software issue personally, and hopefully an update will fix it.

ufvj217 said:
i think everyone has the problem. the "trick" didnt work for me either or my friend, unless we're doing it wrong. i think its a software issue personally, and hopefully an update will fix it.
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Your battery stats are miscalculated. You need a calibration procedure. Replacing the phone might fix the problem, but if your battery charging habits don't change it'll happen again, unless HTC feels like changing their battery calibration algorithm, and there's no need to wait for that. Any laptap manufacturer will have a good how-to on li-ion battery calibration.

theres no way all the phones are bad, alot of people have this issue that have this phone. i dont think its bad hardware, chances are if i get a new battery its going to do the same thing. im gonna order an extended battery anyways soon so we will see.

ufvj217 said:
theres no way all the phones are bad, alot of people have this issue that have this phone. i dont think its bad hardware, chances are if i get a new battery its going to do the same thing. im gonna order an extended battery anyways soon so we will see.
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I am having the same issue with an extended battery. It's the way the phone is charging the battery. Is everyone just accepting this as is or is not everyone having the same issue. I want to know if I should replace the phone or not...

I completely discharged my battery last night, turned it off, and fully charged it while it was off. Now the first 10% seems a lot more resilient then before. I just hope I don't have to do this every night. I don't have a land line and it sucks having to turn it off just to charge it.

good to see this post, i to have a htc touch hd, and have problems with batteries, ive bought 2 new batteries from ebay.
and seem to get vary results, its as if mobile is showing 100% but the battery is only 40% charged.
charged one last night finished at 12pm and battery was saying it was flat at 7am !
the orginal htc does seem to last longer, but obvisily there is a issue with the phone itself, if it needs reset or something?

t41n7ed said:
I am having the same issue with an extended battery. It's the way the phone is charging the battery. Is everyone just accepting this as is or is not everyone having the same issue. I want to know if I should replace the phone or not...
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Replacing the phone is not necessary. It's actually the OS that cuts the charge short of full. The OS "thinks" the battery is full,thus stopping the charge. Completely drain the battery, then plug it in,leaving the phone on. Let it fully charge while it's on - when the LED indicator is green,and the battery is "full" - while still plugged in, power phone off,and you'll notice the indicator will turn red again,charging the phone for about another half hour or so. That will give you a true full charge.

Days later...and running Froyo, and still battery problems
I'm running Froyo now...battery light green and indicating 100%...and I power off the phone... It has been charging 25 minutes now and still charging. Didn't they(?) say that this had been fixed in the latest ROMs. I'm running Sky Raider's 2.01. Is it just me?
Do I need to erase my battery stats from within ClockworkMod Recovery? I haven't done this because it warns that this cannot be undone. That sounded too scary for me to try.

Lexus One said:
I'm running Froyo now...battery light green and indicating 100%...and I power off the phone... It has been charging 25 minutes now and still charging. Didn't they(?) say that this had been fixed in the latest ROMs. I'm running Sky Raider's 2.01. Is it just me?
Do I need to erase my battery stats from within ClockworkMod Recovery? I haven't done this because it warns that this cannot be undone. That sounded too scary for me to try.
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Yes, clear battery stats. Ive had battery issues like this with any leaked froyo rom, including the one i developed.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Yes, clear battery stats. Ive had battery issues like this with any leaked froyo rom, including the one i developed.
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Thanks! I will give it a try...

How do u clear your battery stats?
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Go into recovery and it is under advanced.
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.

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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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Oh thanks. I was actually planning to get a new battery today.
Whick one do you suggest?
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mb02 said:
its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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I can tell you it doesn't have anything to do with the chargers. I have this problem while the phone is turned on whether I plug it into my Computer, original charger, off brand car charger, usb car charger, usb cable from the lg ally, or the OEM lg ally charger. it has everything to do with HTCs software on the phone. it is using two different ways to charge the battery, one while the phone is on and in use (that uses HTCs software/algorithm), and one while the phone is turned off(uses the batteries overcharge protection circuit).

jeeeeezz
I have tried everything, I tried resetting / removing the battery stats etc. Nothing works...Its useless ppl...have to wait for a fix from HTC. Which bring my question, does anyone know when or if this is planned to be fixed?

Easy & Effective Permanent Bump Charging Solution

Ok, this whole bump charging thing pisses me off. My phone should just charge, I shouldn't need to spend hours every morning bump charging it. I've read that others have found work arounds that seemed to work for them - the only thing that's fixed the rapid drain rate in the start of the day (which refers of course to the lack of a full charge) has been daily bump charging. I've read about people using Christmas light timers to do this, but this is a bit more...robust. I've tried something new that seems to be, at least for me, a permanent solution.
1. Purchase something like this. There may be other timers that would work as well.
2. Plug your HTC charger into the timer.
3. Set the timer to cut the power off at, say, 4:00AM (this was a good time for me based on when I wake up for work).
4. Set it to turn power back on one minute later, at 4:01AM.
5. Set it to turn power off again at 4:31AM (my bump charging usually takes 30 minutes per cycle)
6. Set it to turn the power back on a minute later at 4:32AM.
7. And so on and so forth for a total of about 10 cycles (this is what works best for my Dinc, at least)
8. Turn your phone off when you go to bed.
8a. If anyone can figure out a way to auto-power off at around 4:00am, this would work even better. Power Off 1.1 wouldn't work on my SkyRaider Dinc.
9. Plug your phone in.
10. If you programmed the timer correctly, your phone should be fully bump charged at least 10 cycles by the time you wake up! Power on your phone and GO!
I'm interested to find out if others have tried this method. So far it's working wonders for my battery life. Comments welcomed.

Thanks for this post, creative solutions like this one are always nice.
HTC needs to get it together and finally fix this issue. It's starting to piss me off especially in the morning when i have to turn my phone off.

unreal2k said:
Thanks for this post, creative solutions like this one are always nice.
HTC needs to get it together and finally fix this issue. It's starting to piss me off especially in the morning when i have to turn my phone off.
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Not an HTC issue...it is an android os issue in general.

magneticzero said:
Not an HTC issue...it is an android os issue in general.
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Curious as to how this is an os problem when the incredible is the only one that has it. Also, i wonder how a phone that charges through an os can charge while turned off... its a physical charger problem, not os.

The OS shuts off charging too early. But, its HTC phones in general, from what I've read. Bump charging has been around longer than the Dinc.
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EVO: http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/99002-battery-not-charging-completely.html
Desire: http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/65108-battery-not-charging-fully.html
but from googling I see majority of the problems come HTC devices, so it is prob a os to hardward issue, or a complete software issue that has been addressed towards HTC... After digging around looks like the G1 had this problem also.
So who knows.

Honestly, my goal wasn't to inspire debate. Just wanted to offer some advice that may help others. If it helps an EVO user or a G1 user, all the better.

FWIW, it is just how the phone works. My Samsung Omnia charged the same way.
I simply let it charge overnight. When I get up in the morning I check my email or whatever and then put the phone back on the charger while I get ready for work. I leave for the day with a fully-charged battery. No muss, no fuss.
What's the big deal?

rfarrah said:
FWIW, it is just how the phone works. My Samsung Omnia charged the same way.
I simply let it charge overnight. When I get up in the morning I check my email or whatever and then put the phone back on the charger while I get ready for work. I leave for the day with a fully-charged battery. No muss, no fuss.
What's the big deal?
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I suppose I'm just neurotic in that, when I wake up to a phone I plugged in the night before, I want the damn thing to be charged. With three children running around, two in diapers, EVERYTHING is muss and fuss. That's why I posted this solution that works for me. If you don't find it necessary for your circumstances, I'm jealous.

Would clearing the battery stats after bump charging help it get a better charge even when not bump charging?

rfarrah said:
FWIW, it is just how the phone works. My Samsung Omnia charged the same way.
I simply let it charge overnight. When I get up in the morning I check my email or whatever and then put the phone back on the charger while I get ready for work. I leave for the day with a fully-charged battery. No muss, no fuss.
What's the big deal?
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My Moto Droid didn't do this. In fact, you couldn't charge it with it off.
Nor did my Omnia.

I have an easier solution which works perfectly:
Power the phone off
Charge overnight while I sleep
Power it back on in the morning
That's it. The issue is that the phone doesn't fully charge unless it is powered off. Bumping doesn't do anything special.

Even when it is powered off, if you unplug it and plug it back in you can get around another good hour or so of charging. I turn my phone off at night but bump it when i wake up in the middle of the night because it always charges for at least another thirty minutes.

Amin Sabet said:
I have an easier solution which works perfectly:
Power the phone off
Charge overnight while I sleep
Power it back on in the morning
That's it. The issue is that the phone doesn't fully charge unless it is powered off. Bumping doesn't do anything special.
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Mmmm yea I am going to have to strongly disagree...

Actually, not true (about it being the Incredible only). I have an HTC Imagio also (my previous phone) which just happens to have the same battery and it had the same issue. If I charged the phone fully, unplugged the charger, turned off the phone and plugged it back in, the orange light stayed on for quite some time before turning green again.
I'm not saying it's a totally a hardware issue (something to do with the charging circuitry) but I think it's a combination of that in conjunction with the O/S. Android defintely seems to drain the battery a heck of a lot faster than WINMO6.5 did (as proven by my friend who has an HD2 and is dual booting 6.5 and Android. He's found that WINMO 6.5 lasts at least 5 hours or more than Android).
So ultimately, I think HTC needs to look into either A) the quality of these batteries, B) their charging circuitry, C) Both, and the folks at Google need to get to work on their power management logic and algorithms.
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Curious as to how this is an os problem when the incredible is the only one that has it. Also, i wonder how a phone that charges through an os can charge while turned off... its a physical charger problem, not os.
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I've seen the same results that Amin did doing this whole "Bump" thing vs. just charging with the phone off, unplugging, and plugging back in. I've seen the same results on another HTC phone as well that was a non-android phone.
If you get a set of lithium AA batteries and get a charger, you can test how this is SUPPOSED to work. If you charge the AA's fully, take them out of the charger, then put them back in, you might see the light orange for maybe a minute or so before the charger realizes that the battries are full.
The HTC phones don't seem to do this. They seem to think the batteries are partially drained.
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Mmmm yea I am going to have to strongly disagree...
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csseale said:
Mmmm yea I am going to have to strongly disagree...
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If you charge while off and unplug and replug, you may get some more orange light time. My concern isn't whether I can make the light go orange, it's battery life. What I have observed is that if I charge to full with the phone off, I get better battery life than if I charge to full with it on. None of the other factors (unplugging, replugging, etc) seems to make much difference.

Suggested 18 hours of charging - BY AN HTC REP!!!
Ok - For your amusement, check out some these emails (link below) that people recieved from tech support staff at HTC. In one of the emails, the support rep suggested 18 hours of charging using a modified "bump-charge" technique.
Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?
http://www.incredibleforum.com/foru...scussion/1777-htc-confirms-battery-trick.html

I just bought a HTC TP2 battery charger on ebay for $5 and 2 1500mah TP2 batteries for another $5 a piece and charge one while I use the other. Almost never use the stock battery and get tons of life on the TP2 batteries. Easier than this bump stuff.
I usually just carry the fully charged stock in my pocket. Just in case I am in a low signal area all day.

Vibrant Turns on when I try to wall charge it?

Ive had Bionix 1.2.1 Running since it was released, I cant help but notice when I try to power down my phone and charge it from the wall outlet it just boots right back up and proceeds to charge from the home screen. Would this be a result of flashing the rom to anything other then stock?

Are you useing a different battery other that the normal one

No, but I have cleared the battery info once cause it was starting to die quickly.

Daymic said:
Ive had Bionix 1.2.1 Running since it was released, I cant help but notice when I try to power down my phone and charge it from the wall outlet it just boots right back up and proceeds to charge from the home screen. Would this be a result of flashing the rom to anything other then stock?
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I have this exact same problem with my Vibrant. Happened less than 24 hours ago. I can't seem to figure it out. Let me know if you find a solution. I'm running Bionix V atm. Thanks.

This is a known bug in CM7, some sort of kernel issue. Wonder if you're running an optimized kernel that introduced the same bug.. Try switching kernels?

Daymic said:
Ive had Bionix 1.2.1 Running since it was released, I cant help but notice when I try to power down my phone and charge it from the wall outlet it just boots right back up and proceeds to charge from the home screen. Would this be a result of flashing the rom to anything other then stock?
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Have you ever used CM7, if so did you odin back to Stock Jfd 2.1 before flashing your current rom? If not nandroid and try that...
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Upgrading to a later version should help lol,i didnt have this problem with Bionix V 1.3.1 or 1.3.2 nor with Bionix nex gen. Any earlier vrs i cant remember if that was an issue

I have never had this problem unless I was using a non-Samsung battery.
I have also had Bionix 1.2 on my Vibrant and am currently running 1.31
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Regarding battery life. I bought 2 different aftermarket batteries and 1 extra Samsung battery for my phone. I also starting fully discharging the battery and using a charger to charge them back up before putting them back in the phone
After comparing the life off all of them and taking use into account, I can tell you that keeping your phone on a charger all day will eat away at the life/capacity of the battery.
Deep cycles (full discharge and the full charge when off or on a charger) will help you recover some of the capacity, but the battery will be quick to 'lose' capacity again if you start leaving it on a charger again.
The replacement OEM battery (which has only ever been deep cycled) has far more life than the original battery that my phone came with.
I have a total of 5 batteries for this phone (two OEM, one double capacity and two non-OEM). Instead of worrying about battery life, I just keep an extra battery in my pocket when I go places and put the used batteries on the charger after I get back.
Much less hassle for me

There are some usb cables out there that for some reason turns on the phone when charging. The first time I ever noticed this was when the Fiance got the 1st OTA update. And she said it powered up when plugging it in to charge. I thought that was odd and left it at that for a couple days. Then she told me it didnt power up anymore. A week later she said it powered her phone up again. This time when troubleshooting it, found out it was not the Samsung USB cable that came with the vibrant. It was a USB cable a coworker gave her from her old MetroPCS phone.
To verify, I powered down my phone (running Bionix) and used that generic cable and it powered up my phone.
I have a handful of USB cables that I have tested on and most do not power up my phone and only a couple do that I remember, and those came from other devices like a handheld GPS, our bluetooth charger, etc.

[Q] Battery charged but showed 0% ?

My gf said her N7 showed a 0% charge even though 2 hours earlier she had a 60% charge. She then plugged it in and restarted, then it showed a 60% charge again.
Any ideas what may be wrong?

androidmonkey said:
My gf said her N7 showed a 0% charge even though 2 hours earlier she had a 60% charge. She then plugged it in and restarted, then it showed a 60% charge again.
Any ideas what may be wrong?
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is it rooted? maybe wiping batter stats will fix it.

Its not rooted.

Fufu_the_Great said:
is it rooted? maybe wiping batter stats will fix it.
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Not likely. Battery stats has absolutely nothing to do with reported charge level. Wiping it will have the same effect as clearing his market search history... None at all.
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Are you using the charger that came with the Nexus 7? 'Cause the same thing happened to me last month. I used a charger I got from ebay, plugged it in, charged all day, came back, unplugged it, turned on & said it was in the red!

Same thing happened to me shortly after I had the N7.... and that was with using the supplied mains charger and cable.
All I did was leave it alone for a further hour and when I then went back to check the screen it had jumped all of 13%.
I was tempted to return the N7 but as it was night and I couldn't return it I left it on charge overnight...... The following morning it was 100% charged.
Since then it's been charged dozen's of times and not once been a problem since (says he touching wood).

My problem is that it wont show that its charging even tho it is. Tried all chargers i have and even the stock one is same. Was going to return it but all the horror stories I've heard i decided not going to bother. Chances are i get a worse unit back. Personally it looks like the connector is not going all the way in. I am going to shave some of the plastic off and see if that helps. Anyway I think Google needs better quality control at Asus and even at Samsung, i remember how my Gnex was packaged.
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im running aokp JB build 2 and everytime i turn it on, the little battery icon says for example "54%" and on the lock screen it says "100%"
kinda strange. I was about to ask if it was rooted also, but someone did that before me, so im lost for words

[Q] issues with kit kat

Hey guys...I have updates to kit kat 3 times since it has came out...I have issues right now with my phone that I am not sure if it is due to kitkat or what..
I have HORRIBLE battery life now...Literally lasting like half a day. On MJE it was not like this. Also, for some reason, it is taking FOREVER to charge, and it will not charge if hooked up to a PC very much at all...used to it would charge the phone, now it just keeps it at the same percentage, or drains it further.
I have tried eclipse rom and baja rom and they seem to both have the issue.

Maybe your battery is toasted. Left your phone in a hot car lately? Baking lithium batteries tends to make them slow to charge and fast to die. You could get another battery and try it (don't get a no name aftermarket one unless it's like a Zero Lemon or something respectable).
If it's not the battery then your charging circuit could be going bad. Worse case scenario you get a warranty replacement and have an extra battery.
Another thing to consider is that a laptop or computer will typically only charge the phone at 400-600mA. That will take 6-8 hours to complete. If you recently switched computers it could be outputting less power. Find a wall charger rated at 2000mA and try that. Charge should be complete from 0% to 100% in 2-3 hours max. If it takes much longer than that, you have a dying battery or bad charging circuit.

adoublearonn said:
Maybe your battery is toasted. Left your phone in a hot car lately? Baking lithium batteries tends to make them slow to charge and fast to die. You could get another battery and try it (don't get a no name aftermarket one unless it's like a Zero Lemon or something respectable).
If it's not the battery then your charging circuit could be going bad. Worse case scenario you get a warranty replacement and have an extra battery.
Another thing to consider is that a laptop or computer will typically only charge the phone at 400-600mA. That will take 6-8 hours to complete. If you recently switched computers it could be outputting less power. Find a wall charger rated at 2000mA and try that. Charge should be complete from 0% to 100% in 2-3 hours max. If it takes much longer than that, you have a dying battery or bad charging circuit.
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Thanks for the response!
I actually bought a new battery the other day as I was clueless as to what was causing this issue. It is doing the same thing, which tells me it is either something to do with my phone or the ROM's themselves. I seriously cannot get a day out of my phone with normal use...Used to I would have around 40% left and I was using my phone a heck of a lot more than what I am using it now. My phone will sit plugged into my PC or plugged into the wall at work all day...When I get off at 5...By the time I go to bed at 12-1am I am getting alerts about battery.
It charges up to 100 percent though...This I don't get...I have only tried 2 roms on the NC2 and I have tried this a while back when it first came out with a rom but dont remember which one it was...The phone will randomly start chugging super slow and I will have to reboot it in order to get it do do anything...It will get to the point it takes 10+ seconds to load the power menu when I hold the power button. This has ONLY been an issue with NC2. I have ODIN'd back and upgraded all the way through and still had the same issues multiple times.
I don't understand why this did not do this on MJE but does on NC2. I was running Baja prior to NC2 on MJE without any issues. I am pretty tech savy, I am a network administrator...I have had many Verizon phones, and flashed/rooted several. I am not an expert, but I am fairly confident I am doing everything right...I don't know what I would be missing.
I could do a warranty claim through Verizon...Problem is, they give you remanufactured phones...I want to be dang sure it is an issue with my phone, as this one I got new from Verizon, and not the NC2 build iteself. Would it still be the charging circuit if it charges to 100% still? I have a wireless charger that I use when I am at home, and I just got it not long ago...does that bypass the charging circuit, or does it still use it? This was after I was having issues.