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My phone is SM-N9005, with 4.3 stock and the dreaded MJ7..
I understand that there still is no way to Root this device without flagging the [email protected]@# KNOX and void any warranty..
I'm going to wait a couple of days for a possibility to root my beloved Note3, without triggering KNOX and then I don't think I kan live without Titanium, Exposed and Tasker++... :fingers-crossed:
I'm wondering if someone can explain to me; (I'm a noob and I know it) is the information Knox 0x1 stored in flash memory (NAND)?
And if so, and i had to deliver my phone for service some time in the future.. Would it be possible to make Nand corrupt beyond recognition and then get warranty back?
If they can't see anything wrong, they can't claim that I have been rooted..
Or should I just try too brag them with some baked goods and hope for the best?
I really hate that Samsung have done this with an "open" OS, and if there's no good work around in the future, This will be my last Samsung device!
Btw: This is my first post here on XDA, and sorry for my "English"
SealLynx said:
Or should I just try too brag them with some baked goods and hope for the best?
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Or you try a microwave... About 3 secs does the trick apparently...
ultramag69 said:
Or you try a microwave... About 3 secs does the trick apparently...
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Lol! Somehow i don't think a microwaved phone is going to be justified as a warranty claim..
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Lol! Somehow i don't think a microwaved phone is going to be justified as a warranty claim..
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Apparently people have done this when they can't boot and have rooted OS. Don't know if it works as I haven't needed to try, anytime I had a warranty claim the problem actually fried the MB by itself.... No help needed...:laugh:
ultramag69 said:
Apparently people have done this when they can't boot and have rooted OS. Don't know if it works as I haven't needed to try, anytime I had a warranty claim the problem actually fried the MB by itself.... No help needed...:laugh:
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I thank you for the comment, but i do need an first hand experience before I fry my note..
Don't know why, but I'd be more comfortable with a full whipe of NAND, if that's the place KNOX is stored..
SealLynx said:
I thank you for the comment, but i do need an first hand experience before I fry my note..
Don't know why, but I'd be more comfortable with a full whipe of NAND, if that's the place KNOX is stored..
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KNOX is stored everywhere, - No one knows for sure where the counter 0x0/0x1 is located, hence no one being able to reset it. It is possible it's in NAND, but then again, it might be somewhere totally different.
I'm going to wait a couple of days for a possibility to root my beloved Note3, without triggering KNOX and then I don't think I kan live without Titanium, Exposed and Tasker++..
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In all honesty I doubt a few days will make any difference, there isn't even anyone working on rooting without tripping KNOX, especially now DG and CF have given up and said it can't be done due to the bootloader...
radicalisto said:
KNOX is stored everywhere, - No one knows for sure where the counter 0x0/0x1 is located, hence no one being able to reset it. It is possible it's in NAND, but then again, it might be somewhere totally different.
In all honesty I doubt a few days will make any difference, there isn't even anyone working on rooting without tripping KNOX, especially now DG and CF have given up and said it can't be done due to the bootloader...
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Well, then it seems like this is my last Samsung device..
It where nice as long as it lasted.
Any thoughts about the NAND?
If that is corupted, wouldn't it be difficult or impossible to read the internal SD?
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Any thoughts about the NAND?
If that is corupted, wouldn't it be difficult or impossible to read the internal SD?
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It is possible, but we don't know what kind of tools Samsung potentially use to debug a device properly. But then again, who knows
Hi,
So I have this very much annoying problem which I have made a thread about it before and it's that I have always to choose either to use Touchwiz Home or Touchwiz easy home or knox, and even though I always choose Touchwiz home and make sure to check ALWAYS, it will come back asking me the same question when I hit home button.
The only solution to this problem was to reset the phone which helps, but the problem will appear again after few days or weeks.
I called Samsung Support and I spoke to a very nice person and I was told that the cause of this problem has to do with the kernel and some corrupted files there.
He said, my only solution is to change the motherboard, because if they put a new software, the problem will come back and the cost of the motherboard is 90% of the device value and since my phone was rooted before, I will have to pay the full price.
I told the guy that in status it shows now original and not custom, is there is a way that they can find out that my phone was once rooted before? He said yes, they will find it out because there is something that will show them history of the phone, something like that.
My question is, how can I clean up those files, how can I trick Samsung into thinking that my phone was never rooted before.
Thanks a lot guys in advance
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Hi,
So I have this very much annoying problem which I have made a thread about it before and it's that I have always to choose either to use Touchwiz Home or Touchwiz easy home or knox, and even though I always choose Touchwiz home and make sure to check ALWAYS, it will come back asking me the same question when I hit home button.
The only solution to this problem was to reset the phone which helps, but the problem will appear again after few days or weeks.
I called Samsung Support and I spoke to a very nice person and I was told that the cause of this problem has to do with the kernel and some corrupted files there.
He said, my only solution is to change the motherboard, because if they put a new software, the problem will come back and the cost of the motherboard is 90% of the device value and since my phone was rooted before, I will have to pay the full price.
I told the guy that in status it shows now original and not custom, is there is a way that they can find out that my phone was once rooted before? He said yes, they will find it out because there is something that will show them history of the phone, something like that.
My question is, how can I clean up those files, how can I trick Samsung into thinking that my phone was never rooted before.
Thanks a lot guys in advance
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just clear ur binary using triangle away(by chainfire)
if u have Knox,well,bad luck,there is not a way yet to reset it..
To check Knox,go to download mode,there should be something like Knox warranty there...
Or,if u ever installed samsung's 4.3 update u will have Knox..
if u have Knox and its tripped,install a custom rom and enjoy.
btw,be confident in front of Samsung care executives,they will most likely try to convince that u did mess up and u will have to pay.they did this to me,but at end they had to take my phone under full warranty...
Sent from my GT-I9500
anu.cool said:
just clear ur binary using triangle away(by chainfire)
if u have Knox,well,bad luck,there is not a way yet to reset it..
To check Knox,go to download mode,there should be something like Knox warranty there...
Or,if u ever installed samsung's 4.3 update u will have Knox..
if u have Knox and its tripped,install a custom rom and enjoy.
btw,be confident in front of Samsung care executives,they will most likely try to convince that u did mess up and u will have to pay.they did this to me,but at end they had to take my phone under full warranty...
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Thanks man.
Actually just few minutes ago, I found a thread about Triangle away and I did reset that counter. It shows now original.
I'm heading to Samsung services and see what crap they will pull on me now!! hehe
cheers
It all depends if the technician cares or not.In other threads, they say that Samsung use a special cable to reset knox.
theunderling said:
It all depends if the technician cares or not.In other threads, they say that Samsung use a special cable to reset knox.
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Talking about knox, I really don't know if it's official or not!!
Can you tell from the photo attached?
Knox warranty void: 0x1
So it is tripped and the warranty is void
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clouds73 said:
Talking about knox, I really don't know if it's official or not!!
Can you tell from the photo attached?
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You already void your warranty .... It shows Knox warranty Void 0x1 and you might end up paying them for repair. But if your country is part of EU .. then no need to worry about Knox crap.
It all comes down to Samsung warranty policy and your countrys consumer laws; and if Samsung cares about it.
Youll soon find out lol.
how about if I downgrade to 4.2.2? There was no knox back then.
Is it possible?
A downgrade is not possible afaik
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Hi all
I bought a new samsung S4 i9505 ---without guaranty---
2 days ago the device started restarting and the sound goes dead and there can't be anything to make the device produce any sound neither from the front speaker nor from the main speaker nor even the headphones !!
I did a hard reset and voila -or i thought so- the device finally worked fine completely , until after about an hour when it started freaking out and not responding and the sound went dead again , restarting the device only sent it to a boot loop !
Finally today i installed a complete system using ODIN and it worked fine again for only an hour and then it went to the boot loop
I plugged the phone to the charger and powered it on and it worked smoothly but with no sound at all again :X
So can any guy help me sort this problem out please
Thanks in advance
you mean you bought a used samsung s4 with no warranty? and this is a wrong thread. it should be moved to q&a forum
No , it is new just without warranty
ryanperez said:
you mean you bought a used samsung s4 with no warranty? and this is a wrong thread. it should be moved to q&a forum
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raoufn1984 said:
No , it is new just without warranty
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Stores usually offer warranty.
So there's something odd at the middle.
Maybe you bought it from some dealer on the street..and those usually never sell you anything good.
Well the store did give me a warranty but only for software issues , and he said this must be a hardware issue.
So is this true ?
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Stores usually offer warranty.
So there's something odd at the middle.
Maybe you bought it from some dealer on the street..and those usually never sell you anything good.
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Well the store did give me a warranty but only for software issues , and he said this must be a hardware issue.
So is this true ?
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When did you buy it actually buy it?
I am in turkey , and i bought it from a small mobile shop
Anyway , is there a way to fix it ?
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When did you buy it actually buy it?
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flash with odin using pit file
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I am in turkey , and i bought it from a small mobile shop
Anyway , is there a way to fix it ?
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I asked WHEN, not WHERE.
When is time related. Where is location related.
Also, warranties usually are all-rounders. Meaning they offer service to software and hardware related issues.
So why did they offer only software?
Anyway. If it is hardware related then there is nothing you can do, except to change the parts.
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My bad , i read it like where , and was like what difference does it make where i got it , my mistake
anyway as i said it is not a big firm or anything like that is just a small shop only providing software warranties
and as i said in the first post i got it about a month ago
i will try flashing with pit file
thanks for the advice
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I asked WHEN, not WHERE.
When is time related. Where is location related.
Also, warranties usually are all-rounders. Meaning they offer service to software and hardware related issues.
So why did they offer only software?
Anyway. If it is hardware related then there is nothing you can do, except to change the parts.
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LOL
My bad , i read it like where , and was like what difference does it make where i got it , my mistake
anyway as i said it is not a big firm or anything like that is just a small shop only providing software warranties
and as i said in the first post i got it about a month ago
i will try flashing with pit file
thanks for the advice
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Didn't see that info
Anyway. What I am trying to say is that maybe they knew about the phone having issues and that's why they offered only software warranty (A bit paranoic, I know)
once the phone boots up try dialing *#0*# and let us know how that goes. This MAY be a kernel issue. happens when they probably have given you an S4 with a different model number, with a different firmware flashed. (sometimes i9505 vs. i9515 due to different chips) What is the model number shown in the download mode? i9505? And Knox Status?
The service tests all OK except both speaker tests
The download mode shows i9505
i don't know what this Knox is
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once the phone boots up try dialing *#0*# and let us know how that goes. This MAY be a kernel issue. happens when they probably have given you an S4 with a different model number, with a different firmware flashed. (sometimes i9505 vs. i9515 due to different chips) What is the model number shown in the download mode? i9505? And Knox Status?
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The service tests all OK except both speaker tests
The download mode shows i9505
i don't know what this Knox is
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So your bootloader doesnt say anything about knox? What version of android are you running?
KNOX cernerl lock : 0x0
KNOX warranty void: 0x1
i was on latest jellybean , tried flashing it with odin and the problem didn't go away
tried lollipop and it is just the same
when i turn the phone on it gives the booting sound hangs about a min or tow boots up , sometimes doesn't even complete booting, sometimes the sound stays functional for a few mins then stops sometimes it instantly after the boot stops
could it be some minor issue like battery malfunction maybe ?
or is it a big issue ?
i don't want to take it to samsung and pay the fix if i can fix it my self because i am not good at turkish and they speak so little english that i will not be able to make them understand the problem
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So your bootloader doesnt say anything about knox? What version of android are you running?
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raoufn1984 said:
KNOX cernerl lock : 0x0
KNOX warranty void: 0x1
i was on latest jellybean , tried flashing it with odin and the problem didn't go away
tried lollipop and it is just the same
when i turn the phone on it gives the booting sound hangs about a min or tow boots up , sometimes doesn't even complete booting, sometimes the sound stays functional for a few mins then stops sometimes it instantly after the boot stops
could it be some minor issue like battery malfunction maybe ?
or is it a big issue ?
i don't want to take it to samsung and pay the fix if i can fix it my self because i am not good at turkish and they speak so little english that i will not be able to make them understand the problem
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did u try wiping and flashing a custom rom?
No , only using odin with original firmwares
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did u try wiping and flashing a custom rom?
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No , only using odin with original firmwares
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try installing a custom rom. be sure to wipe and reset.
just tried a custom rom and had the same issue
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try installing a custom rom. be sure to wipe and reset.
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just tried a custom rom and had the same issue
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oh, then i have no idea bro. visit a service centre, and dont explain them much, just ask them to check the speaker. make sure to go with a stock rom
Hey guys, I have a "little" problem . I was downgrading My Galaxy A5 (SM-A500FU) to 4.4.4 from 5.0.2 and somehow the result was hard bricked phone ? I have done a few downgrades before on the same phone with the same ODIN files and everything was fine, but now it wasn't, still searching the reason why. But that's not important now. Important is that my phone is in warranty. My phone wasn't rooted and Knox state was always 0x0 after every ODIN procedure. I always flashed with stock ROM from sammobile. About the warranty, my provider accepted the phone for repairing, but I'm confused will they fix it or return it as non-warranty-allowed actions like downgrading and ODIN manipulations. What do you think ? Thanks and sorry for my low english. :angel:
Please look in question answer for my thread about my repair, knox 1/0 no problem here, lol.
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Please look in question answer for my thread about my repair, knox 1/0 no problem here, lol.
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Dude let me tell you my experience... I had my phone taken in and it was clearly warranty void.. But i told them everything ,but not the part i was messing with kernels and recoverys, so they didnt check for the knox logs ... they just changed my mobo.. it was in warranty as well.. If you told them that you indeed downgraded then i guess there's a slight chance that they won't fix it.
Hope you don't have to pay for anything good luck
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Dude let me tell you my experience... I had my phone taken in and it was clearly warranty void.. But i told them everything ,but not the part i was messing with kernels and recoverys, so they didnt check for the knox logs ... they just changed my mobo.. it was in warranty as well.. If you told them that you indeed downgraded then i guess there's a slight chance that they won't fix it.
Hope you don't have to pay for anything good luck
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No, I didn't. I told them only that I put my phone to charge and when I checked it after 15 min I only had black screen and no reaction at all whatever I do.
MrYoan said:
No, I didn't. I told them only that I put my phone to charge and when I checked it after 15 min I only had black screen and no reaction at all whatever I do.
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Then i guess you are cool. Good Luck
Ok, the results: I got my phone back without any problems, as far as I know the whole motherboard is replaced. But I have another question: Can I remove this notification about this software update (which was the reason to reinstall my phone, it completely buged my phone, now I don't want to do the same mistake) ? It's very annoying. Pics:
1. http://i.imgur.com/2lHfu0p.png
2. http://i.imgur.com/d8ftSCZ.png
XperiaNoobie said:
Dude let me tell you my experience... I had my phone taken in and it was clearly warranty void.. But i told them everything ,but not the part i was messing with kernels and recoverys, so they didnt check for the knox logs ... they just changed my mobo.. it was in warranty as well.. If you told them that you indeed downgraded then i guess there's a slight chance that they won't fix it.
Hope you don't have to pay for anything good luck
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I never told them what ive done before the camera was broken, i only reported the error and thats all, 8 days later my phone was back with new camera, all runs perfect, in germany you loose waranty only when its 100% sure that the software you have installed the reason is that your phone is broken. In 99% its not software related so it was no problem.
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I am fed up with MIUI, and I want to revert back to stock Android. Usually when you root your phone you lose your warranty. But, I have heard that if you root a Xiaomi phone you don't lose your warranty. Is this correct or some hoax?
Aniket659 said:
I am fed up with MIUI, and I want to revert back to stock Android. Usually when you root your phone you lose your warranty. But, I have heard that if you root a Xiaomi phone you don't lose your warranty. Is this correct or some hoax?
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Yes its correct...
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Yes its correct...
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So if I Unlock the bootloader , root my phone, install a custom recovery & install a custom rom, I won't lose my warranty at all?
Aniket659 said:
So if I Unlock the bootloader , root my phone, install a custom recovery & install a custom rom, I won't lose my warranty at all?
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No u won't lose warranty...
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No u won't lose warranty...
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
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Rooting your phone and unlocking your bootloader is one thing.
When you try flashing the wrong ROM and brick your phone, it's a completely different story and no company in the world will give you warranty in that case
Just don't overclock your CPU and always keep the Stock ROM ready on your computer. And make a full nandroid backup using TWRP, before you flash any ROM, update or ZIP using the recovery
As long you get the right exact files for your model, verify the integrity before flashing, the chance to hard-brick is almost zero :fingers-crossed: Additionally, fully charge the battery before flashing anything. So you have enough time for rescue attempts, In case you turn into a heavy bootloop and cannot charge the phone
I hope that mine arrives soon, cant await to check out my new phone with Resurrection Remix :angel:
Damn that they cannot produce in enough quantities because the high demand I suggest to first use the phone for a week, check if every component is fine.
And also, If done right, you can re-flash and re-lock the bootloader, like when the camera isn't working and you want to return the phone for warranty process
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Just don't overclock your CPU and always keep the Stock ROM ready on your computer. And make a full nandroid backup using TWRP, before you flash any ROM, update or ZIP using the recovery
As long you get the right exact files for your model, verify the integrity before flashing, the chance to hard-brick is almost zero :fingers-crossed: Additionally, fully charge the battery before flashing anything. So you have enough time for rescue attempts, In case you turn into a heavy bootloop and cannot charge the phone
I hope that mine arrives soon, cant await to check out my new phone with Resurrection Remix :angel:
Damn that they cannot produce in enough quantities because the high demand I suggest to first use the phone for a week, check if every component is fine.
And also, If done right, you can re-flash and re-lock the bootloader, like when the camera isn't working and you want to return the phone for warranty process
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Thank you but I know these stuff. Just wasn't sure about the Xiaomi warranty policy ?
How you getting the warranty ?
I dont know where u r living but I am in Europe and would like to know how warranty works for here ?
Aniket659 said:
I am fed up with MIUI, and I want to revert back to stock Android. Usually when you root your phone you lose your warranty. But, I have heard that if you root a Xiaomi phone you don't lose your warranty. Is this correct or some hoax?
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1sin1 said:
How you getting the warranty ?
I dont know where u r living but I am in Europe and would like to know how warranty works for here ?
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what warranty? chinese promise ?? you should be aware that with this kind of phone your resources of getting your phone fixed is quite limited. other than buying a replacement part and doing it yourself that is.
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what warranty? chinese promise ?? you should be aware that with this kind of phone your resources of getting your phone fixed is quite limited. other than buying a replacement part and doing it yourself that is.
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I am still thinking about buying it or not but I had already prepared myself to not having warranty but then when i saw this post I thought maybe there is sth. that i dont know about chinese thrustworthy
(other option is p10 lite with a bit more money but then have warranty and stuff) (still not sure)
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I am still thinking about buying it or not but I had already prepared myself to not having warranty but then when i saw this post I thought maybe there is sth. that i dont know about chinese thrustworthy
(other option is p10 lite with a bit more money but then have warranty and stuff) (still not sure)
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huawai is also chinese company, the only difference is that they have retail business expanded to other countries where there usually cooperate with retailers and have some sort of service station. basically your contact is always where you buy your device, and they will handle it for you. i recently got my redmi and it's a pretty awesome device for the money it costs. quality wise it's on par to other devices. while you pay alot of money for a chinese brand phone... i am not to sure if it's worth it. it's like they are produced next to xiaomi production site anyhow...
i mean they have quality control and stuff so getting a faulty device is pretty slim, other than that if you crack your screen service doesn't really help alot as well because they charge too much money, other than that redmi note 4 is pretty easy to repair so if there is something going on you are free to try it yourself.
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How you getting the warranty ?
I dont know where u r living but I am in Europe and would like to know how warranty works for here ?
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I live in India and they sell phones officially here. We don't have to export xiaomi phones here. So if they are selling phones here so they might have service centres where we can fix our phones. I am talking about that warranty ?
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I am still thinking about buying it or not but I had already prepared myself to not having warranty but then when i saw this post I thought maybe there is sth. that i dont know about chinese thrustworthy
(other option is p10 lite with a bit more money but then have warranty and stuff) (still not sure)
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I think you should buy this phone because it is worth every penny. Other than Miui (that you can change) everything is perfect imo.
Then I guess only logical upper version to think about would be LG G5 SE .. Huawei is not an option anymore while its camera also not that quality also i guess
So 180 euro or 320 euro
Thanks for answers
They Have Pick Mi Services which Is Doorstep Delivery (In India),
No need to worry about Service Centers.
Noter2017 said:
Rooting your phone and unlocking your bootloader is one thing.
When you try flashing the wrong ROM and brick your phone, it's a completely different story and no company in the world will give you warranty in that case
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Dude I had a Samsung device which hard bricks within warranty period and I said at service center that my device is not booting they just replace the motherboard for free as there is no way to detect whether I rooted the device...
Aniket659 said:
So if I Unlock the bootloader , root my phone, install a custom recovery & install a custom rom, I won't lose my warranty at all?
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Dude! Warranty does gets void when you flash a custom recovery/rom on xiaomi devices!
abinnishihh said:
Dude! Warranty does gets void when you flash a custom recovery/rom on xiaomi devices!
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But you can reinstall the stock rom and the recovery. The only question is the bootloader Unlock.
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But you can reinstall the stock rom and the recovery. The only question is the bootloader Unlock.
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You can lock it by typing
fastboot oem lock
In the fastboot mode via cmd or flash the stock rom and select lock bootloader!
abinnishihh said:
You can lock it by typing
fastboot oem lock
In the fastboot mode via cmd or flash the stock rom and select lock bootloader!
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Ya then the problem is solved