My phone is SM-N9005, with 4.3 stock and the dreaded MJ7..
I understand that there still is no way to Root this device without flagging the [email protected]@# KNOX and void any warranty..
I'm going to wait a couple of days for a possibility to root my beloved Note3, without triggering KNOX and then I don't think I kan live without Titanium, Exposed and Tasker++... :fingers-crossed:
I'm wondering if someone can explain to me; (I'm a noob and I know it) is the information Knox 0x1 stored in flash memory (NAND)?
And if so, and i had to deliver my phone for service some time in the future.. Would it be possible to make Nand corrupt beyond recognition and then get warranty back?
If they can't see anything wrong, they can't claim that I have been rooted..
Or should I just try too brag them with some baked goods and hope for the best?
I really hate that Samsung have done this with an "open" OS, and if there's no good work around in the future, This will be my last Samsung device!
Btw: This is my first post here on XDA, and sorry for my "English"
SealLynx said:
Or should I just try too brag them with some baked goods and hope for the best?
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Or you try a microwave... About 3 secs does the trick apparently...
ultramag69 said:
Or you try a microwave... About 3 secs does the trick apparently...
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Lol! Somehow i don't think a microwaved phone is going to be justified as a warranty claim..
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Lol! Somehow i don't think a microwaved phone is going to be justified as a warranty claim..
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Apparently people have done this when they can't boot and have rooted OS. Don't know if it works as I haven't needed to try, anytime I had a warranty claim the problem actually fried the MB by itself.... No help needed...:laugh:
ultramag69 said:
Apparently people have done this when they can't boot and have rooted OS. Don't know if it works as I haven't needed to try, anytime I had a warranty claim the problem actually fried the MB by itself.... No help needed...:laugh:
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I thank you for the comment, but i do need an first hand experience before I fry my note..
Don't know why, but I'd be more comfortable with a full whipe of NAND, if that's the place KNOX is stored..
SealLynx said:
I thank you for the comment, but i do need an first hand experience before I fry my note..
Don't know why, but I'd be more comfortable with a full whipe of NAND, if that's the place KNOX is stored..
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KNOX is stored everywhere, - No one knows for sure where the counter 0x0/0x1 is located, hence no one being able to reset it. It is possible it's in NAND, but then again, it might be somewhere totally different.
I'm going to wait a couple of days for a possibility to root my beloved Note3, without triggering KNOX and then I don't think I kan live without Titanium, Exposed and Tasker++..
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In all honesty I doubt a few days will make any difference, there isn't even anyone working on rooting without tripping KNOX, especially now DG and CF have given up and said it can't be done due to the bootloader...
radicalisto said:
KNOX is stored everywhere, - No one knows for sure where the counter 0x0/0x1 is located, hence no one being able to reset it. It is possible it's in NAND, but then again, it might be somewhere totally different.
In all honesty I doubt a few days will make any difference, there isn't even anyone working on rooting without tripping KNOX, especially now DG and CF have given up and said it can't be done due to the bootloader...
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Well, then it seems like this is my last Samsung device..
It where nice as long as it lasted.
Any thoughts about the NAND?
If that is corupted, wouldn't it be difficult or impossible to read the internal SD?
SealLynx said:
Any thoughts about the NAND?
If that is corupted, wouldn't it be difficult or impossible to read the internal SD?
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It is possible, but we don't know what kind of tools Samsung potentially use to debug a device properly. But then again, who knows
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As the title states, is there any reason why I shouldn't update to OTA 4.3?
I'm currently running a stock, non-rooted SGH-I337M on Bell. I'm just wondering about KNOX...if I start messing with my phone, should I do it from 4.2?
I updated to 4.3 and I'm seeing a little jank, and it feels less robust than 4.2.2 was. Also, if you intend to root or do a custom recovery/ROM, you will have to wait a few weeks until the bootloader is unlocked and some more cutting gets done on 4.3 before you can do anything like that.
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I updated to 4.3 and I'm seeing a little jank, and it feels less robust than 4.2.2 was. Also, if you intend to root or do a custom recovery/ROM, you will have to wait a few weeks until the bootloader is unlocked and some more cutting gets done on 4.3 before you can do anything like that.
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Hmm...I don't think that the Canadian bootloaders are locked.
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Hmm...I don't think that the Canadian bootloaders are locked.
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Ahh yes, I understand that you are correct.
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Ahh yes, I understand that you are correct.
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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Virtually no carriers actually check to see if you're rooted.. Once it's accepted for warranty by the carrier it's sent to Samsung and disassembled. It carries some risk, but realistically it's not something to lose sleep over.
I'm in the same boat. I do want to root my phone soon then flash it when the 1 year warranty runs out. Should I root now or after my update? (It's asking to update now)
Would I lose root after my update anyway?
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
Maleki said:
I'm in the same boat. I do want to root my phone soon then flash it when the 1 year warranty runs out. Should I root now or after my update? (It's asking to update now)
Would I lose root after my update anyway?
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Yes. I had to unroot to get OTA though, then re-root afterwards.
You guys might want to review this thread as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535801. There are other options to OTA and Kies.
aycockonxion said:
Virtually no carriers actually check to see if you're rooted.. Once it's accepted for warranty by the carrier it's sent to Samsung and disassembled. It carries some risk, but realistically it's not something to lose sleep over.
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The repair process works a little different in my area. If I have an issue, I take my phone to the store...I use a loaner phone while they send mine to a repair facility. If the repair facility finds a reason not to perform repairs under warranty, they don't.
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
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10-4.
Last question...rooting doesn't give that "custom" warning at boot, does it? I think that's only once you install a custom recovery?
If you are not planning on rooting or anything I say go for it. It seems a lot smoother for me, battery life seems far better, im getting slightly better service, and lastly we have built in emojis now (granted you can only send them as an mms through text but you are able to see them system wide now on apps such as ig or twitter etc) I personally say go for it.
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Last question...rooting doesn't give that "custom" warning at boot, does it? I think that's only once you install a custom recovery?
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I think it does, but honestly can't remember... did mine on Nov 23rd and flashed a custom rom within an hr of rooting.
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
Yes. I had to unroot to get OTA though, then re-root afterwards.
You guys might want to review this thread as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535801. There are other options to OTA and Kies.
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My plan was to go stock for a year then when the initial warranty runs out (I have sweet extended one through the re-seller) I was going to go with a custom rom. That's what I did with my S1. It doesn't look like I'll have the luxury. I already updated once and got a secure boot. Lesson learned I guess.
Slow Charging
The new update really takes a long time to charge if you are using a 3rd party charger. Idk if its true for everyone, or if this was done on purpose but I notice my gs4 charging wayyyyy slower than on 4.2.2.
hello guys
I have a sm-n900.....it came upgraded to kitkat in the box
although the performance of the phone is mind blowing but I feel it is a battery draimer......and also I read reviews on net that people with jellybean used to have their battery last more than one day with usual udage but in my case it is only upto 16-17 hrs
I thought of downgrading to jellybean and went to service cemtre where they told me that downgrading in not possible in note 3
I then searched at home and found it is bit complicated and if we do we may loose update to kitkat if we want afterwards
like in my earlier s2 (i9100) and note (n7000) I could flash any firmware anytime
but wat to do downgrade this to jellybean without loosing the possibilities of update to kitkat
plz someone
I know people are here having far big issues compared to mine
but I would be really happy is someone would guide me through this
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hello guys
I have a sm-n900.....it came upgraded to kitkat in the box
although the performance of the phone is mind blowing but I feel it is a battery draimer......and also I read reviews on net that people with jellybean used to have their battery last more than one day with usual udage but in my case it is only upto 16-17 hrs
I thought of downgrading to jellybean and went to service cemtre where they told me that downgrading in not possible in note 3
I then searched at home and found it is bit complicated and if we do we may loose update to kitkat if we want afterwards
like in my earlier s2 (i9100) and note (n7000) I could flash any firmware anytime
but wat to do downgrade this to jellybean without loosing the possibilities of update to kitkat
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you cant downgrade at all
just not going to happen sorry bud
anikanu said:
plz someone
I know people are here having far big issues compared to mine
but I would be really happy is someone would guide me through this
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The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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mate do you math its 58 billion times a day lol :silly:
jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade at all
just not going to happen sorry bud
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The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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mate do you math its 58 billion times a day lol :silly:
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so can I root the phone and move to some other custom kernel based rom and then flash jellybean via odin
wat wud happen if I do it using odin.....will it hardbrick or some apps wont work.....plz tell...I know its annoying but plz
anikanu said:
so can I root the phone and move to some other custom kernel based rom and then flash jellybean via odin
wat wud happen if I do it using odin.....will it hardbrick or some apps wont work.....plz tell...I know its annoying but plz
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Forget jelly beans you can never go back all it will do is Bootloop
donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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and I see that u r using same ohone rooted
whuch method did y follow and also is der any prob in handling og the phone after rooting
and can u go back to stock unrooted again to restorr warranty and reset binary counter
jaythenut said:
Forget jelly beans you can never go back all it will do is Bootloop
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u mean I cant even go to cm10.2 too
anikanu said:
u mean I cant even go to cm10.2 too
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No, you can't
anikanu said:
and I see that u r using same ohone rooted
whuch method did y follow and also is der any prob in handling og the phone after rooting
and can u go back to stock unrooted again to restorr warranty and reset binary counter
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I rooted via CF-AutoRoot (as my signature indicates below) and there were no problems. For me, KitKat is working perfectly in every respect.
No, you cannot reset the Knox binary trigger. I could not possibly care any less about it at this point in time.
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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I rooted via CF-AutoRoot (as my signature indicates below) and there were no problems. For me, KitKat is working perfectly in every respect.
No, you cannot reset the Knox binary trigger. I could not possibly care any less about it at this point in time.
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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so now if u visit samsung
what page the officials would open in order to see ur knox counter
Pierre118 said:
No, you can't
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how r u having knox still 0 even after rooting
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how r u having knox still 0 even after rooting
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You need to do some searching on the site. All these questions have answers that have been gone over and over.
Early 4.3 users could root their phone but Knox gets tripped. RDLV method worked then without tripping Knox up till MJ3 of 4.3. Anything above that as stock and Knox gets tripped. KitKat goes one step further in that you cannot revert to 4.3 at all, even if you are willing to trip Knox.
You can root the phone but AFAIK (I haven't bothered with KK - my phone runs brilliantly on v6 (4.3) Omega) you trip Knox anyway you do it.
Knox 0x1 may or may not doom your warranty - somecountries have laws that say Samsung cannot quirm out of hardware problems by claiming software changes. You may or may not care about Knox. Mine is a grey import from HK that I had all kinds of fun getting over to a non-freaky ROM, so when it eventually triggered Knox I didn't give a toss. I did root the phone with RDLV and changed ROMs several times before something that shouldn't have, tripped the Knox bit.
Now there is about as brief a history as you will get. Use what is in it to go search and find any more complete answers.
Always search before asking basic questions - at the least it means you will be able to ask intelligent questions, not ones you can find by looking at the titles of recent posts in Q&A forums.
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so now if u visit samsung
what page the officials would open in order to see ur knox counter
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They'd just boot to Download mode and see the Knox flag.
I don't care about it, honestly. If I ever need warranty assistance, I'd just hope for the best, but since it's Samsung, I'd expect the worst.
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You need to do some searching on the site. All these questions have answers that have been gone over and over.
Early 4.3 users could root their phone but Knox gets tripped. RDLV method worked then without tripping Knox up till MJ3 of 4.3. Anything above that as stock and Knox gets tripped. KitKat goes one step further in that you cannot revert to 4.3 at all, even if you are willing to trip Knox.
You can root the phone but AFAIK (I haven't bothered with KK - my phone runs brilliantly on v6 (4.3) Omega) you trip Knox anyway you do it.
Knox 0x1 may or may not doom your warranty - somecountries have laws that say Samsung cannot quirm out of hardware problems by claiming software changes. You may or may not care about Knox. Mine is a grey import from HK that I had all kinds of fun getting over to a non-freaky ROM, so when it eventually triggered Knox I didn't give a toss. I did root the phone with RDLV and changed ROMs several times before something that shouldn't have, tripped the Knox bit.
Now there is about as brief a history as you will get. Use what is in it to go search and find any more complete answers.
Always search before asking basic questions - at the least it means you will be able to ask intelligent questions, not ones you can find by looking at the titles of recent posts in Q&A forums.
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They'd just boot to Download mode and see the Knox flag.
I don't care about it, honestly. If I ever need warranty assistance, I'd just hope for the best, but since it's Samsung, I'd expect the worst.
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I may be annoying u guys
but what I understand from till now is dat I wont get the privileges of the phone as I used to get in xperia live and sgs2 and maybe what I will use be the stock rom
btw I have still not downloaded the app data of knox which is of 170mb.....wat do u guys suggest should I do it or let it be
and 1 last question that is der any way to have mass storage mode.....as in mtp we dont see the files and folders starting with (.) and I have many imp stuffs on my sd which have their starting with a . and u all know that in mtp we dont see such files and folders.....so is der any way to have the mass storage mode back
plz answer......I know I annoyed a lot.....but plz
You should be able to use another mode. When you connect via USB, swipe down the Notification bar and there should be a Notify there you can tap to choose other modes.
You might need to go into Build Number (Settings/About Phone) and tap 7 times to turn on Developer mode and then turn on USB Debug. (not sure as that's always one of the first things I do)
Unless you are the only person on the planet who sees a need for Knox, you don't need to DL anything to do with Knox. Check in Application Manager and see if you can turn all of it off.
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You should be able to use another mode. When you connect via USB, swipe down the Notification bar and there should be a Notify there you can tap to choose other modes.
You might need to go into Build Number (Settings/About Phone) and tap 7 times to turn on Developer mode and then turn on USB Debug. (not sure as that's always one of the first things I do)
Unless you are the only person on the planet who sees a need for Knox, you don't need to DL anything to do with Knox. Check in Application Manager and see if you can turn all of it off.
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I also have enabled developer options due to my habit of doing in cm roms in previous phones
but on usb connection there are only 2 modes
media transfer protocol
camera protocol
mass storage is missing
donalgodon said:
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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Interesting question. Do you find you can easily sell your rooted/modified phones?
I'm always concerned that people won't want to buy a rooted phone that's potentially been flashed 100+ times with possible excessive CPU over-clocking etc. I always try to put the phone back to stock (or as close as possible) before I sell it on.
Is it just me who feels those concerns?
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Interesting question. Do you find you can easily sell your rooted/modified phones?
I'm always concerned that people won't want to buy a rooted phone that's potentially been flashed 100+ times with possible excessive CPU over-clocking etc. I always try to put the phone back to stock (or as close as possible) before I sell it on.
Is it just me who feels those concerns?
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Well, in my region, the vast majority of buyers don't even know what root is, so it's never been an issue for me. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. The Note 3 doesn't show any issues at all when reflashed unless Knox flag is tripped. Even then, the only "issue" is the warranty bit flag shown in Download mode and the loss of Knox container, which almost nobody uses. Out of a 100 buyers, you might find one that knows what root is and less than that who know how to get to Download mode, and even fewer who'd potentially use Knox, so no, not a problem.
hello all ,,,
i really wanna ask you for the best advise
should i root my note 4 ?
what would i lose if i did ?
what are the best things i gain ?
does it make the devise slower ?
or does it mess up with the battery ?
and thank you very much
After reading your questions, the answer for you is NO.
Rooting is great and opens up a eorkd of oppertunities and can make ur software much smoother. But in YOUR case, dont do it cuz it dont seem like u will benefit from it
Yeah, the benefits are endless and has few if any downsides. One of these few things could be warranty issues, but that's mostly theoretical I think depending on which brand.
My only consern towards you is that it seems you actually do not know what rooting actally is at all, due to your line of questioning.
Rooting does not do anything more to your phone than providing plain admin access like you got with a pc. Nothing else whatsoever, besides getting you cut off from installing/using many usefull apps which only accepts non root/jailbraked phones due to security/copyright issues.
The upside of rooting and the admin access/control is that it opens up for installing apps which can tune your phone and it's framework to better performance and endless ways of customizations.
Before you even think of getting in to this, READ UP on the matter. It seems like you think rooting in itself is some kind of magic wondercure that makes your phone into a superdevice. And if you have to ask this questions at all, better keep off untill some learning is done. If you do these proceedures wrong, your phone easily dies.
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thank you guys ,
but what i meant there is some feature that could be lost , like ( deeb sleep ) witch save the battery life while the phone is on stand by
and the knox serves
and thank you guys , i have a good back ground about how i can do it , but i should have to ask like a noob to get an answer ^_^
By rooting, You'll trip the "knox counter" in the bootloader to read 0x1 (=customized). The permanent result of this is that the Knox partition will not function ever again. This is because Samsung can/will not guarantee the knox security system anymore beeing intact on a customized phone and the phone shuts the knox down automaticly when Knox counter is triped.
Besides that, rooting does nothing to the system other than provide administrator priveligies.
can u please let me see your battery life pattern ?
dunno if i am going to lose ( deep sleep ) or not
TareqMh said:
can u please let me see your battery life pattern ?
dunno if i am going to lose ( deep sleep ) or not
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Man rott if u need admin privilegions,if u want to flash new ROM,custom kernel,edit some system files,flash new mod(Viper sound,camera etc)...
Uwill be lose just knox,why you tolking about battery?when u root u have more control so dont worry for battery life...If u install more apps it will be bad....And if u just root,why u will be lose 'deep sleep' or whatever...Even will be get better battery life if flash custom kernel
can u please recommande the best custom rom for me ?
and thank you very much
TareqMh said:
can u please recommande the best custom rom for me ?
and thank you very much
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What model u have?
I dont root my device,and dont know which one is best,but u can try few and see
TareqMh said:
can u please recommande the best custom rom for me ?
and thank you very much
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There is no 'best' it is down to personal preference and how your device behaves. You need to try a variety of them until you find one you like.
that is why i said please recommend me one , maybe i don't have time to test them all :$
mine is N910C
Once you root... You never go back
Unlock the full potential of your device.
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Guys, do you think we will be able to root WITHOUT tripping Knox??
I stopped rooting my phones. Not sure if the people who root fully realize what rooting does to they phones.
There is a reason why banking apps and many others do not work on a rooted phones..
Any app with su access can read/write the private data (and in memory) of any other app. It is ridiculous..
You basically relay on supersu (or similar) to protect you. Can you trust it 100%? What if it crash?
Guys, do you think we will be able to root WITHOUT tripping Knox??
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plz ?
TareqMh said:
thank you guys ,
but what i meant there is some feature that could be lost , like ( deeb sleep ) witch save the battery life while the phone is on stand by
and the knox serves
and thank you guys , i have a good back ground about how i can do it , but i should have to ask like a noob to get an answer ^_^
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With every new post by you, it becomes more and more apparent you SHOULD NOT ROOT. You have ZERO idea what it is or what your doing.
Like Freddy KGB SAID "GO AWAY, THIS ONE NOT FOR YOU"
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tiny70thomas said:
With every new post by you, it becomes more and more apparent you SHOULD NOT ROOT. You have ZERO idea what it is or what your doing.
Like Freddy KGB SAID "GO AWAY, THIS ONE NOT FOR YOU"
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: $
mitko76 said:
I stopped rooting my phones. Not sure if the people who root fully realize what rooting does to they phones.
There is a reason why banking apps and many others do not work on a rooted phones..
Any app with su access can read/write the private data (and in memory) of any other app. It is ridiculous..
You basically relay on supersu (or similar) to protect you. Can you trust it 100%? What if it crash?
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Rooting also allows the aliens access to our brains.... Don't do it!
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tiny70thomas said:
Rooting also allows the aliens access to our brains.... Don't do it!
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Certainly to yours.. No arguments, only foolish remarks. So typical..
I wrote "I stopped rooting my phones" so no point you telling me "Don't do it!".
I am not against rooting, but if you have any sensitive data in your phone (or use banking aps etc.), at least think twice and do some research.
mikkelrev69 said:
By rooting, You'll trip the "knox counter" in the bootloader to read 0x1 (=customized). The permanent result of this is that the Knox partition will not function ever again. This is because Samsung can/will not guarantee the knox security system anymore beeing intact on a customized phone and the phone shuts the knox down automaticly when Knox counter is triped.
Besides that, rooting does nothing to the system other than provide administrator priveligies.
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not always. you could root and got KNOX 0x0
check
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60806379&postcount=157
Wysłane z mojego SM-N910C przy użyciu Tapatalka
Hey guys, I have a "little" problem . I was downgrading My Galaxy A5 (SM-A500FU) to 4.4.4 from 5.0.2 and somehow the result was hard bricked phone ? I have done a few downgrades before on the same phone with the same ODIN files and everything was fine, but now it wasn't, still searching the reason why. But that's not important now. Important is that my phone is in warranty. My phone wasn't rooted and Knox state was always 0x0 after every ODIN procedure. I always flashed with stock ROM from sammobile. About the warranty, my provider accepted the phone for repairing, but I'm confused will they fix it or return it as non-warranty-allowed actions like downgrading and ODIN manipulations. What do you think ? Thanks and sorry for my low english. :angel:
Please look in question answer for my thread about my repair, knox 1/0 no problem here, lol.
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-CALIBAN666- said:
Please look in question answer for my thread about my repair, knox 1/0 no problem here, lol.
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Dude let me tell you my experience... I had my phone taken in and it was clearly warranty void.. But i told them everything ,but not the part i was messing with kernels and recoverys, so they didnt check for the knox logs ... they just changed my mobo.. it was in warranty as well.. If you told them that you indeed downgraded then i guess there's a slight chance that they won't fix it.
Hope you don't have to pay for anything good luck
XperiaNoobie said:
Dude let me tell you my experience... I had my phone taken in and it was clearly warranty void.. But i told them everything ,but not the part i was messing with kernels and recoverys, so they didnt check for the knox logs ... they just changed my mobo.. it was in warranty as well.. If you told them that you indeed downgraded then i guess there's a slight chance that they won't fix it.
Hope you don't have to pay for anything good luck
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No, I didn't. I told them only that I put my phone to charge and when I checked it after 15 min I only had black screen and no reaction at all whatever I do.
MrYoan said:
No, I didn't. I told them only that I put my phone to charge and when I checked it after 15 min I only had black screen and no reaction at all whatever I do.
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Then i guess you are cool. Good Luck
Ok, the results: I got my phone back without any problems, as far as I know the whole motherboard is replaced. But I have another question: Can I remove this notification about this software update (which was the reason to reinstall my phone, it completely buged my phone, now I don't want to do the same mistake) ? It's very annoying. Pics:
1. http://i.imgur.com/2lHfu0p.png
2. http://i.imgur.com/d8ftSCZ.png
XperiaNoobie said:
Dude let me tell you my experience... I had my phone taken in and it was clearly warranty void.. But i told them everything ,but not the part i was messing with kernels and recoverys, so they didnt check for the knox logs ... they just changed my mobo.. it was in warranty as well.. If you told them that you indeed downgraded then i guess there's a slight chance that they won't fix it.
Hope you don't have to pay for anything good luck
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I never told them what ive done before the camera was broken, i only reported the error and thats all, 8 days later my phone was back with new camera, all runs perfect, in germany you loose waranty only when its 100% sure that the software you have installed the reason is that your phone is broken. In 99% its not software related so it was no problem.
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Hello world. So thing is... Knox is tripped.. No Samsung stuff is working.. As usual.. But once I've read something that said it can be fixed by changing the mainboard (or whatever it's called). Is that true? If so.. How?
What?
I've tripped Knox on so many Samsung Devices, it should work no problem if you don't flash files wrong on the device.
benjamen50 said:
What?
I've tripped Knox on so many Samsung Devices, it should work no problem if you don't flash files wrong on the device.
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I know.. What I meant was Samsung pay, Samsung health, and these applications are not working. The phone is okay, working like a charm, but I'm curious if changing the mainboard will fix knox or not.
Well yeah, if you obtain a logic board that hasn't had a custom binary (kernel / root / custom rom) flashed to it.
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Well yeah, if you obtain a logic board that hasn't had a custom binary (kernel / root / custom rom) flashed to it.
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Alright. My phone is still "under warranty" but I don't know if they can fix it or not. Last time the company I bought a phone did repair it, even after the phone was rooted. But I don't know how Samsung does its stuff.. Should I try at them before or change it myself?
GalaxyRSR said:
Alright. My phone is still "under warranty" but I don't know if they can fix it or not. Last time the company I bought a phone did repair it, even after the phone was rooted. But I don't know how Samsung does its stuff.. Should I try at them before or change it myself?
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They will most likely charge you an out of warranty replacement, though replacement logic boards aren't that expensive in my opinion.
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They will most likely charge you an out of warranty replacement, though replacement logic boards aren't that expensive in my opinion.
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Well.. I'll try.. If that doesn't work well.. I don't know..?