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[Q] Can we bypass "show location settings?" pop up?

In Google Maps when a user of a non GPS android tablet selects driving or walking navigation a pop up screen saying "Show Location Settings?" appears. Clicking OK is the only action that can be performed which leads to the Settings/Location and Security screen. Normally the user would select Use GPS satellites and click the Back button. On tablets, that can connect to external Bluetooth GPS, there is no Use GPS satellites to enable and clicking Back brings you to the same pop up screen while voice guided navigation is being performed. Navigation is working but the map is hiding behing this screen. What can I do to bypass or remove this pop up screen?
Mock locations in Settings/Applications/Development is enabled as well as Use wireless networks. The bluetooth GPS location of the tablet works. Apps like Bluetooth GPS Provider, BlueGPS4droid and Bluetooth GPS Mouse work beautifully connecting to any external bluetooth GPS.

You can install your app as a system app. But this will require root..

I have root. My tablet is 99% stock rom and alot coming down the pipeline are stock and rooted out of the box. The problem is there's no embedded GPS but stock roms include things like telephony, etc.
I have moved Maps among all other gapps into system/app which work great. The navigation can be done w/ 3rd party apps like Telenav using external bt GPS but for some reason Maps is looking for the internal GPS. I just want to fool Maps into thinking my tablet has GPS or edit the condition for the pop up to happen.

why would you want navigation without GPS. just use the directions feature in google maps, its the same thing, without spoken directions.

why would you want navigation without GPS. just use the directions feature in google maps, its the same thing, without spoken directions.
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i have external GPS, Maps sees my location, i just want navigation too. if i actually used it for driving the directions feature wouldn't give me voice guidance. that only comes from Driving or walking.
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I, too would like a solution for this. I'm using an external bluetooth GPS unit and the app "Bluetooth GPS Mouse" for navigation in place of the crappy internal one that the Samsung Captivate provides. If I leave the internal one enabled, Maps repeatedly jumps between the two different locations from the two GPS units. If I try to disable the internal one, however, Navigation just prompts me until I enable it again.
How can I bypass this?

Joying Satnav app or GPS issue ??????? HELP

Apologies if this has been asked before, but I have a Android joying headunit and having an issue in regards to satnav. Now I use Google maps and I can set a destination and the app knows my current location but once I'm driving the satnav app doesn't update my location (it still registers me at the initial starting location).
At first I thought could it be a GPS issue, but GPS always seems to know my current location once I start any app that needs my location, the problem only happens once I'm on the move it doesn't update it on the app. So baffled whether its a GPS issue or app issue?
Has anyone had a similar issue or know if a possible resolve?

1-) how many satellites do you see ?
2-) how much takes to the gps to make the "fix position" and with how many satellites ?
If you don't know the answers to the questions, let's do in another mode.
Head Unit connected to the internet (wifi)-> Google Play Store -> apk GPS TEST (download and install)-put in on the gps antenna of the device;
Now open GPS TEST->Settings->AGPS-> "clear and update".
RESTART the hu( not closed and open, RESTART), open GPS TEST and wait; first you'll see 2-3 satellites, but slowly the increase till 20-25 and do the "fix position" with 10-12 satellites.
This operation take about 10-15 minutes, after your radio "catch" the satellitesin 10 seconds.

@nick1964 Thats not the issue, the issue he's describing is totally different. The unit will catch GPS signals and navigation works totally fine with other third party apps (iGo, Sygic, Navigon, etc), but Google Maps has an issue where it will catch your location initially, but once you start navigating it will not update the location in the app. If you switch over to another GPS app or even check the GPS in the SYU settings app, it has full lock. So your troubleshooting steps dont really apply in this case. It's happened to me too, it just randomly started working after some days. I don't mainly use Google Maps so I can't really tell what fixed it.

gamer765 said:
@nick1964 The unit will catch GPS signals and navigation works totally fine with other third party apps (iGo, Sygic, Navigon, etc), but Google Maps has an issue.
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@gamer765 I have only tested with Google maps, I'll give iGo a try shortly.

If he didn't know what level of satellites signal have, how many satellites see, how do you talk about "that is not an issue"?
Do you know what is GSM triangulation?
Do you understand what is navigation offline and online?
Do you know what is AGPS data and for what is used ?

Hi all I have an update, it seems to be the GPS thats the issue (NOT the apps that use GPS).
Initially I thought it was the GPS only worked at the initial moment when using a app that uses GPS to get my location, but at all the times this happened I was connected using my mobile phones data connection for Internet. I checked the GPS info and its says "no signal" (but the GPS is 100% connected to the headunit, please see attached photo).
Any ideas anyone?

I have this same problem in my new Joying Android 10 HU as well.

YT9216B 2/32 Gps in view but not in use problem.

Hello, i have YT9216B 2gb ram, 32 rom flashed with rom token from 4pda forum. Everything works, but only gps not works as it should be. In settings menu when i start gps it starts, sometimes not finds satelites, but when finds them, it finds 8 to 11 satelites, but still not recieving data and location services . Before flashing the unit all worked well. My antenna were located inside of my central console behind the headunit. Now even with gps antenna positioned under front window (with clear sky view) it still not works. If i make hotspot it detects me, but if there is no Internet connection there is no detection. I've tryed almost everything i know, gps fix programs, but still nothing. Is it possible this issue to be because of the rom i've used? Any suggestions?

Android HU. Nav Apps/APK's

hi everyone, I am looking for some advice using an Android Xtron head unit which I installed myself in a 2018 VW Caddy, my problem seems to be nav apps with network/gps,
1. When using waze do i need a phone connection or can it work via Xtron GPS already installed, I keep getting "searching for network" when i do not connect the unit to wifi )
2 Sygic, I keep getting a huge nag on the screen telling me "traffic is premium" , this advert covers a lot of the nav screen, how can i remove this, (yes buy the prem) using it's free service?
so the questions are, do i need to be connected to a wifi, BT or a phone for nav apps to work ?
can i use the built in GPS for a nav app without always having to connect to wifi/BT etc?
is it better to use apk's or download apps from the playstore for an Android HU?
bear with me please as i am a senior citizen.
Thank you for looking, stay safe

mc303 said:
hi everyone, I am looking for some advice using an Android Xtron head unit which I installed myself in a 2018 VW Caddy, my problem seems to be nav apps with network/gps,
1. When using waze do i need a phone connection or can it work via Xtron GPS already installed, I keep getting "searching for network" when i do not connect the unit to wifi )
2 Sygic, I keep getting a huge nag on the screen telling me "traffic is premium" , this advert covers a lot of the nav screen, how can i remove this, (yes buy the prem) using it's free service?
so the questions are, do i need to be connected to a wifi, BT or a phone for nav apps to work ?
can i use the built in GPS for a nav app without always having to connect to wifi/BT etc?
is it better to use apk's or download apps from the playstore for an Android HU?
bear with me please as i am a senior citizen.
Thank you for looking, stay safe
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Hi,
while using Waze or G-Maps you need to be connected to Internet. While using Sygic you only need to be connected after First start.
Connect to Internet, start Sygic and login to your Sygic account. It should now get the license and further on work without Network as long maps are downloaden and installed. Not shure whether you need to disable traffic news....

Thank you

Help with using navigation on an Xtrons HU

Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)

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Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
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Will I get answers here then?

coldshiver said:
Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.

May I recommend 'Magic Earth' navigation, works fine with no internet but no live data of course.

At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..

rigattoni said:
First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
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Thanks for a helpful reply. I have already fitted a power injector for the FM antenna which made some difference but I like to listen to radio 4 and there are parts of the country (along the M11, on the A5 in North Wales), where you cannot pick it up on any radio - and of course in Europe where I have just been for a few weeks where I usually don't want the radio on at all. That's why having the nav sound set as a percentage of the existing volume seems a bit odd as it implies you already have some other sound on. Better to have a dedicated channel for it or have the nav mute any other sound.
I'll look at doing all the swiping etc to turn off the radio by closing recent apps although this doesn't seen like a very safe thing to start doing when you drive into a area of poor reception. I was hoping the unit would have a simple press button like in the good old days!
The dongle info is also useful thank you. Xtrons do not make this clear at all. They imply that by plugging it into the socket on the unit you have made a (wired) data connection. If the HU is still only connecting over wifi anyway then I can install the dongle wherever I like in the car so that it gets a good 4G signal, instead of it having to be in the driver footwell at the end of the short USB cable xtrons supply and I can use a dedicated 2A usb adaptor to supply decent power .
I guessed the 'GPS' socket might have nothing to do with GPS. Shame Xtrons couldn't say what it was for instead of just mis-labelling it.
Incidentally. The SIM in the dongle would only ever be used for the navigation to receive traffic updates or bits of map or whatever it needs i.e I don't intend to be surfing the net or downloading Utube videos. Do you have any idea what sort of data requirements this would mean. Would a 250Mb a month sim be enough?
I'll experiment with your suggestions.

rigattoni said:
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I'll look into those thank you. I use maps.me on my phone but couldn't get google maps to work on the HU as it said I was offline. Of course I still need an internet connection to download any of those apps and install them on the HU but I could just park near my house and using the house wifi.

Data plan for using navigation online data depends on the app you use and the amount of mileage per month.
You can use your smartphone first to see what you need in a "normal usage" month and then decide what you need.
If you use any offline map solution, it´s also some sort of usage dependency.
BTW... If you would invest into a higher data plan (2GB), you could use the app Radionator to use Online radio. BBC Radio4 should be in there too. Radionator is the best alternative if you want to listen to one specific radio station. Just needs a stable internet connection, nothing else... and the sound is mostly better than FM.
May be you can use the Navradio+ as alternativ solution for receiving FM radio. Depends on the MCU of your unit. Search for it in MTCD software forum.

rigattoni said:
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
HERE WeGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I would recommend to use HERE WeGo, it served me very well for the years I didn't have mobile internet connection. Also it shows the max allowed speed in most countries, whereas Google Maps doesn't do that.

Sure, Here WeGo is a good choice, even without internet connection.