Android HU. Nav Apps/APK's - Android Head-Units

hi everyone, I am looking for some advice using an Android Xtron head unit which I installed myself in a 2018 VW Caddy, my problem seems to be nav apps with network/gps,
1. When using waze do i need a phone connection or can it work via Xtron GPS already installed, I keep getting "searching for network" when i do not connect the unit to wifi )
2 Sygic, I keep getting a huge nag on the screen telling me "traffic is premium" , this advert covers a lot of the nav screen, how can i remove this, (yes buy the prem) using it's free service?
so the questions are, do i need to be connected to a wifi, BT or a phone for nav apps to work ?
can i use the built in GPS for a nav app without always having to connect to wifi/BT etc?
is it better to use apk's or download apps from the playstore for an Android HU?
bear with me please as i am a senior citizen.
Thank you for looking, stay safe

mc303 said:
hi everyone, I am looking for some advice using an Android Xtron head unit which I installed myself in a 2018 VW Caddy, my problem seems to be nav apps with network/gps,
1. When using waze do i need a phone connection or can it work via Xtron GPS already installed, I keep getting "searching for network" when i do not connect the unit to wifi )
2 Sygic, I keep getting a huge nag on the screen telling me "traffic is premium" , this advert covers a lot of the nav screen, how can i remove this, (yes buy the prem) using it's free service?
so the questions are, do i need to be connected to a wifi, BT or a phone for nav apps to work ?
can i use the built in GPS for a nav app without always having to connect to wifi/BT etc?
is it better to use apk's or download apps from the playstore for an Android HU?
bear with me please as i am a senior citizen.
Thank you for looking, stay safe
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Hi,
while using Waze or G-Maps you need to be connected to Internet. While using Sygic you only need to be connected after First start.
Connect to Internet, start Sygic and login to your Sygic account. It should now get the license and further on work without Network as long maps are downloaden and installed. Not shure whether you need to disable traffic news....

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nook color gps via bluetooth

Can someone please help me set up GPS on my nook via Bluetooth from r g1? I want to use it for car navigation.
assuming you have CM7 + a bluetooth GPS,
first go to the market and download Bluetooh GPS app. turn on the gps device, and run bluetooth GPS, open google maps and start using it. Note maps require a wifi connection for real time turn by turn navigation - unless you pre plan your route - or you can buy CoPilot from the market which does not require the wifi (after initial setup)
if you want to get gps data from your phone, install tetherGPS from the the market and install on phone and Nook - set the phone as server and Nook as client
animatechnica said:
assuming you have CM7 + a bluetooth GPS,
first go to the market and download Bluetooh GPS app. turn on the gps device, and run bluetooth GPS, open google maps and start using it. Note maps require a wifi connection for real time turn by turn navigation - unless you pre plan your route - or you can buy CoPilot from the market which does not require the wifi (after initial setup)
if you want to get gps data from your phone, install tetherGPS from the the market and install on phone and Nook - set the phone as server and Nook as client
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I tried tether GPS, they pair but wont connect thru that app. Plus I believe there is a 5 minute Max use time on the lite version.
Copilot
If you access to WiFi dozens of GPS apps to choose from. Very few that you can download maps. Copilot is not working unless you have an older version. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024963&page=4
polarborn said:
If you access to WiFi dozens of GPS apps to choose from. Very few that you can download maps. Copilot is not working unless you have an older version. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024963&page=4
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Maybe I wasn't clear, sorry. I want to be able to use navigation on my nook while traveling in my car, so there wont be any wifi access while driving. I though I had heard u could use Bluetooth to tether a android phone to it and use the phones GPS signal. I was hoping there was a method of doing this for free.
My experince has been with CoPilot, it dosen't require a active wifi connection as it downloads the map data localy and using a bt GPS reciever.
I use the Globalsat BT-359 and the Bluetooth GPS provider app from the market. With those and CoPilot I have had great success using my nook color as a GPS Unit.
n3cr0tic said:
My experince has been with CoPilot, it dosen't require a active wifi connection as it downloads the map data localy and using a bt GPS reciever.
I use the Globalsat BT-359 and the Bluetooth GPS provider app from the market. With those and CoPilot I have had great success using my nook color as a GPS Unit.
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When using bluetoothgps to try and connect with my paired g1 it says service discovery failed
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When using bluetoothgps to try and connect with my paired g1 it says service discovery failed
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Please note that I believe he referenced gps provider app
I've tried a variety of apps and can't figure out how to get my g1 (running 2.3.4 without a sim card) to connect with my NC for usable GPS.

Android based HU that interfaces phone via BT or wireless?

I'm fairly new to this concept but I'm trying to get up to speed. Basically what I want to do is display waze, play pandora and other random things i do on my phone now. I would like to do it perhaps having the HU connect to my phone hotspot via wireless for data and perhaps even use the phones GPS data. If not I can always run a GPS antenna to the HU. But basically I just want to be able to use waze, pandora and maybe a select few other apps. Is there something out there like this? I know about app radio but It also appears the phone must be plugged in via HDMI to make this work. I currently have an AVIC-Z140BH which is ok but the navigation sucks and pretty much all i use it for is pandora and album art. Being that it's in a loud vert I rarely use the hands free part of it but that's a nice feature to retain if possible.
This Avin Avant-2 is the closest I found, opinions?
Thanks much guys.
Dave

Need help before investing in HU

hi
I am interested in getting a new HU and have some questions since ive never had an Android or Nav HU.
I am thinking of getting Joying JY-UL135
i want to be able to use google maps while on the road but my phone plan doesnt support hotspot .
everyone says you can download google maps onto an SD card. when i google how to download maps for SD card it says to enter the address of map to download ,but i want a map of my whole state at a minimum not just a single destination.
1. Is this possible ?
2. Is it possible to hook up my note 4 to the HU and have google maps running on the note 4 show up on HU screen ?
if its not to much to ask please provide steps of how to do this or what cable or connection is need (doesnt have to be very detailed just rough it )
3. Is the 4g dongle thats sold separately needed if your phone has hotspot (i might get a plan that does) ?
Thanks
you can download your whole state, but you would need wifi to do so.
they do have 4G dongles, I think it is new:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbsMxcaHBOE
probably cheaper/easier to just add a hotspot to your phone
CadillacMike said:
you can download your whole state, but you would need wifi to do so.
they do have 4G dongles, I think it is new:
probably cheaper/easier to just add a hotspot to your phone
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thanks for the help do you know if these will fit in a 2004 cadillac escalade without grinding dash ?
I don't know about that. I have looked at all of the resellers (Joying, Pumpkin, Eonon, etc) and no one seems to have Cadillac specific items.
You would probably need a Universal and then just review a double din install for an Escalade

GPS/Apps Issue

Hi All,
I recently had a Chinese Android Head Unit installed running Android 6.0. The system menu is pretty much identical to the Joying, even the Car Settings Menu Password is the same 3368.
GPS has a good fix (I think). In the Car Settings Menu the GPS often has 8 or more bars and the GLOSNASS has 6 or more bars.
However it seems like none of my apps can access the GPS? No weather app can grab a location. I installed Google Maps and that cant even see Im in Malaysia, it just loads the default North/South American map. Strangely Waze seems to work ok but maybe its just using WiFi and knows from my account Im in Malaysia?
On my Samsung Phone, whenever i run an app that uses GPS a little "location" icon appears in the notification bar. But on my head unit there is never any (yet it displays wifi icon, time etc etc).
Im running Car Launcher Pro which includes a Street Address Widget and that is also not getting anything from GPS.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thank you.
Check if GPS permissions are OK with those apps.

Help with using navigation on an Xtrons HU

Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
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Will I get answers here then?
coldshiver said:
Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
May I recommend 'Magic Earth' navigation, works fine with no internet but no live data of course.
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
rigattoni said:
First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
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Thanks for a helpful reply. I have already fitted a power injector for the FM antenna which made some difference but I like to listen to radio 4 and there are parts of the country (along the M11, on the A5 in North Wales), where you cannot pick it up on any radio - and of course in Europe where I have just been for a few weeks where I usually don't want the radio on at all. That's why having the nav sound set as a percentage of the existing volume seems a bit odd as it implies you already have some other sound on. Better to have a dedicated channel for it or have the nav mute any other sound.
I'll look at doing all the swiping etc to turn off the radio by closing recent apps although this doesn't seen like a very safe thing to start doing when you drive into a area of poor reception. I was hoping the unit would have a simple press button like in the good old days!
The dongle info is also useful thank you. Xtrons do not make this clear at all. They imply that by plugging it into the socket on the unit you have made a (wired) data connection. If the HU is still only connecting over wifi anyway then I can install the dongle wherever I like in the car so that it gets a good 4G signal, instead of it having to be in the driver footwell at the end of the short USB cable xtrons supply and I can use a dedicated 2A usb adaptor to supply decent power .
I guessed the 'GPS' socket might have nothing to do with GPS. Shame Xtrons couldn't say what it was for instead of just mis-labelling it.
Incidentally. The SIM in the dongle would only ever be used for the navigation to receive traffic updates or bits of map or whatever it needs i.e I don't intend to be surfing the net or downloading Utube videos. Do you have any idea what sort of data requirements this would mean. Would a 250Mb a month sim be enough?
I'll experiment with your suggestions.
rigattoni said:
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I'll look into those thank you. I use maps.me on my phone but couldn't get google maps to work on the HU as it said I was offline. Of course I still need an internet connection to download any of those apps and install them on the HU but I could just park near my house and using the house wifi.
Data plan for using navigation online data depends on the app you use and the amount of mileage per month.
You can use your smartphone first to see what you need in a "normal usage" month and then decide what you need.
If you use any offline map solution, it´s also some sort of usage dependency.
BTW... If you would invest into a higher data plan (2GB), you could use the app Radionator to use Online radio. BBC Radio4 should be in there too. Radionator is the best alternative if you want to listen to one specific radio station. Just needs a stable internet connection, nothing else... and the sound is mostly better than FM.
May be you can use the Navradio+ as alternativ solution for receiving FM radio. Depends on the MCU of your unit. Search for it in MTCD software forum.
rigattoni said:
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
HERE WeGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I would recommend to use HERE WeGo, it served me very well for the years I didn't have mobile internet connection. Also it shows the max allowed speed in most countries, whereas Google Maps doesn't do that.
Sure, Here WeGo is a good choice, even without internet connection.

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