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I thought it would be nice to distill all of the information provided in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3368080 into an easy to follow guide. This method was originally described here: https://www.drive2.ru/l/10018006/
Before you proceed, please understand the following:
I am very new to modifications like this and I'm not very knowledgeable. If you mess something up, I probably won't be able to help you.
The following guide is the steps that I took to get this working on my 2012 Ford Focus. I'm not aware of any car model-specific issues, but that doesn't mean that there aren't any.
This guide is for North American cars. If you live in a different region this will still probably work, but you will need to use the MyFord Touch system software files that correspond to your region.
What you will need:
Forscan (I used version 2.3.4 beta) from here: http://forscan.org/
An extended license for Forscan. Follow the instructions to get that here: http://forscan.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=836
An ELM327 OBD2 adapter that is compatible with Forscan. I used this one: http://www.totalcardiagnostics.com/shop/elm327-obd2-scantool
This png file: https://yadi.sk/d/i-JGQR8ZwLrLM
A USB flash drive
MyFord Touch system software version 3.8 (also known as SYNCGen2_3.08.15128.EA.10_PRODUCT). This is the latest version as of this writing. If you aren't on it, you can get the North American update from here: http://ivsu.binaries.ford.com/swparts/Gen2v38build15128updatepackageNARev2.zip. Install it if you don't already have it.
An SD card that contains the navigation maps. The latest version for North America is A8. The latest version for Europe is F6. You can use older versions if you like. Find them on eBay or somewhere similar.
These nav-related files: https://mega.nz/#!DVwQXYQD!BnXXpR9XuhE7ZQPIjM7ODM0SYepJCSawR3q1Ps2XT_s.
Got everything? Let's get started:
Plug (or pair, if you're using a Bluetooth adapter) your OBD2 interface into the OBD2 port on your car.
Put your key in the car and turn it to the On position (the first click after off. Do not put it in accessory mode, which is the second click).
Start up Forscan. You should be on the Vehicle and Interface Information screen (the icon looks like a car with an "i" in a yellow circle on top of it).
Click on the icon that looks like two power cables plugged in to each other to connect to your car. You'll see some information start to populate the log. Wait until it is completely finished.
Forscan might show you a menu with different vehicle options to pick. Pick yours from the list. In my case, it asked if my Focus was 2012 or 2013.
If at any time Forscan asks if you want to save something so you can back it up later, say yes.
Click on the icon that looks like a microchip and under the Configuration and Programming tab, select APIM and press the play icon.
You'll see a lot of fields that are labeled with numbers that start with 7D0. Click the disk icon at the bottom of the screen to save a copy of these original values.
Find 7D0-01-02 and change the first two numbers in the first field from 00 to 04. Click Write to save the change.
You'll see a warning message about the checksum being bad. Click yes to ignore it and continue with the change.
Go back to the Vehicle and Interface Information screen (the icon looks like a car with an "i" in a yellow circle on top of it) and click the unplugged power cables icon to disconnect your computer from the car. You can remove the OBD2 interface now if you like.
Put the png file that you downloaded earlier on to a USB flash drive and plug it into the USB port in your car.
In MyFord Touch, go to settings -> display, and find the setting for changing the wallpaper (I forget exactly what it's called).
Click on Add, and select your USB drive. Highlight the png file, and in the preview box, you should see a blue button that says "enable nav" or something like that. Press it, and you should see "nav enabled" appear above it.
Extract the nav-related files to your USB flash drive and plug it in to your car. It will install some things (be patient, let it finish) and when it's done, you should see an "i" icon at the bottom of your home screen.
Insert your navigation SD card into your car's SD card slot, and you should be good to go.
Hopefully you now have access to a navigation system that is every bit as sub-par but adequate as the rest of the MyFord Touch system. Congrats!
UPDATE: Someone just told me that their car wouldn't read their map card until they installed the package that I labeled optional, so it might be worth a shot if you didn't use it and you're having issues. Again, that package is specific to North America, so if you need a different region, you'll have to find it yourself unless some helpful reader wants to provide a link, and I'll post it here.
I followed these steps pretty much exactly and everything works perfect. I did a master reset and I did not install the optional update pack and I had no issues with my map card.
also worth noting to fix IPC so instead of compass it says Navigation:
720-01-01 E5C0-29BE-24D9 needs to be E5C2-29BE-24DB
update: my middle/last part of that string did not match exactly, however changing the 2 bits still fixed the cluster to say Navigation.
After a few attempts I finally have Nav on our 2013 Edge. I'm grateful for the assistance I received from a fellow member. We spoke last night and I had missed 1 step in the activation process and that was all it took. I used the png method without doing a Master reset.
Again many thanks to this site and it's members for the help.
Hi Everyone.
I have a 2013 C-Max Energi, it came with MyFordTouch but no navigation option. Navigation was only available on the Sony Radio Premium Option which I do not have. It's totally different hardware. I am in the United States if it makes any difference....
So am I reading this correctly... From what I understand, I can get Navigation working without replacing any hardware? Is that correct?
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Hi Everyone.
I have a 2013 C-Max Energi, it came with MyFordTouch but no navigation option. Navigation was only available on the Sony Radio Premium Option which I do not have. It's totally different hardware. I am in the United States if it makes any difference....
So am I reading this correctly... From what I understand, I can get Navigation working without replacing any hardware? Is that correct?
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That's correct. I have MyFord Touch (not SONY) on my 2013 Escape and I was able to enable the Navigation without any hardware. Before enabling the navigation, the top right quadrant of my 8" screen was showing just "information" and the ball compass. Just follow the steps in first post in this thread to enable navigation.
e1ioan said:
That's correct. I have MyFord Touch (not SONY) on my 2013 Escape and I was able to enable the Navigation without any hardware. Before enabling the navigation, the top right quadrant of my 8" screen was showing just "information" and the ball compass. Just follow the steps in first post in this thread to enable navigation.
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Wow that's incredible - I'll be sure to read through this stuff and take a shot.
One Question, besides e-bay or the dealer ($$$), can anyone give me a hint or nudge me in the right direction and where I can 'make' the map SD Card?
Thank you! Followed your guide and worked on my 2016 Fusion SE. I used a bluetooth ELM327. Can also confirm my nav card (a6) was not detected until installing the optional files.
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Wow that's incredible - I'll be sure to read through this stuff and take a shot.
One Question, besides e-bay or the dealer ($$$), can anyone give me a hint or nudge me in the right direction and where I can 'make' the map SD Card?
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I cant recall where i seen it, but there is a Russian site with info on creating your own map sd card.
I was going to attempt it, but i aquired an A6 card on ebay for $38.00 W/free shipping as of Nov. 27, 2016, so for that price, a good quality blank high speed sd card cost about the same.
briankmizell said:
I cant recall where i seen it, but there is a Russian site with info on creating your own map sd card.
I was going to attempt it, but i aquired an A6 card on ebay for $38.00 W/free shipping as of Nov. 27, 2016, so for that price, a good quality blank high speed sd card cost about the same.
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If one were to read the OP carefully, one might just find that site.
No more hints from me though. Even that is treading on thin ice on XDA, and I'm really not trying to get banned.
Anyone else have issues with traffic and travel links Icon disappearing?
It was there for me prior to updating to AF.
But now its not there.
Well... I guess I am off to see the Ford services dept in the morning.
I have tried to do a downgrade to v3.71 but not luck, it keeps saying bad installation files. I was doing this thinking the v3.08_AF is what made some icons on the screen disappear.
I spent 90 minutes on the phone with SiriusXM the other day trying to get the issue resolved about Sirius Traffic & Travel links icon not showing up.
They did an override and gave me a 3 month trial to traffic and travel links, just to see if my radio does support it. I know it does because I went through it all the night I got Nav to working. then I updated to v3.08_AF I got tired and went to bed, I got up the next morning to play around with it, but the icons just aren't there on my car ever since I upgraded from 3.08_AD to 3.08_AF.
All I can figure is that possibly the European software got installed, and I assume that SiriusXM is not available in Europe.
My only other thought is that some bits need to be changed in the ACM, but I must have missed it in the other various threads as to what bits need to be changed in the ACM.
If anyone knows what bits those are and if it will correct my problem, (dont really think it will since the icons were there before the AF update) I would appreciate anyone sharing that with me.
briankmizell said:
Well... I guess I am off to see the Ford services dept in the morning.
I have tried to do a downgrade to v3.71 but not luck, it keeps saying bad installation files. I was doing this thinking the v3.08_AF is what made some icons on the screen disappear.
I spent 90 minutes on the phone with SiriusXM the other day trying to get the issue resolved about Sirius Traffic & Travel links icon not showing up.
They did an override and gave me a 3 month trial to traffic and travel links, just to see if my radio does support it. I know it does because I went through it all the night I got Nav to working. then I updated to v3.08_AF I got tired and went to bed, I got up the next morning to play around with it, but the icons just aren't there on my car ever since I upgraded from 3.08_AD to 3.08_AF.
All I can figure is that possibly the European software got installed, and I assume that SiriusXM is not available in Europe.
My only other thought is that some bits need to be changed in the ACM, but I must have missed it in the other various threads as to what bits need to be changed in the ACM.
If anyone knows what bits those are and if it will correct my problem, (dont really think it will since the icons were there before the AF update) I would appreciate anyone sharing that with me.
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In the ACM, find 727-04-01 change 0001 0255 53DE to 0001 0155 53DD
Don't worry about recalculating the checksum if you are using forscan.
FWIW, although I have never had the issue with icons disappearing, after making the changes in the ACM, I have noticed zero difference.
spent 3 hours at the dealer and they couldn't figure it out, luckily while I was there a guy for the explorer forums messaged me. and told me that it was because I have Nav in motion enabled.
Sure enough, I disabled those bits and the SiriusXm Traffic and travel Links icons came back on.
Ill add a pic shortly to show what bits I changed.
Nav In Motion is a Region Change (telling the car it's from a region without restrictions on entering data while driving). When you enable Nav In Motion, you lose Sirius stuff. This is documented in the real Nav Activation threads.
Also, you mucked with your AsBuilt, never tried setting it back to stock when you had a problem, blamed/nagged Sirius until they gave you a free subscription, and then when that didn't work you went to the dealership to have them investigate your hacked system?
I'm surprised they didn't reset your AsBuilt data. I also hope they charged you 3 hours of labor.
The ACM bit does nothing as far as we know. No reason to change it. Nobody has reported any benefit or even any change from doing so.
Sorry for my poor quality English. I only speak French. I would like to find a link for the F4 or higher version for Canada. '' uT '' the please. rabusseau hotmail com Thanks from Quebec city!!
briankmizell said:
spent 3 hours at the dealer and they couldn't figure it out, luckily while I was there a guy for the explorer forums messaged me. and told me that it was because I have Nav in motion enabled.
Sure enough, I disabled those bits and the SiriusXm Traffic and travel Links icons came back on.
Ill add a pic shortly to show what bits I changed.
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And to think all you had to do was search/peruse the other XDA (main Ford SYNC) thread and you would see a number of posts explaining that changing the "5553" code to "5753" (enabling "navigation in motion") has the consequence of removing all Sirius navigation goodies.
rabusseau said:
Sorry for my poor quality English. I only speak French. I would like to find a link for the F4 or higher version for Canada. '' uT '' the please. rabusseau hotmail com Thanks from Quebec city!!
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F4 is for Europe. Canada is included in the A cards (A7, for example).
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F4 is for Europe. Canada is included in the A cards (A7, for example).
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Thank you for your clarification!!! For you will tell me where I can find this map.
Navigation "Upgrade" with SyncMyRide account?
Thanks for this guide !
Just ordered a replacement ELM327 (the one I had turned out to be a cheap Chinese knockoff that didn't support forscan)....arrives tomorrow, will attempt the upgrade this weekend.
OP - if this works out, I will be forever in your debt....
Question for all -- just got this vehicle....registered it on the Ford site, but have not registered it with SyncMyRide..... concerned about connecting the system to Ford through my phone if I go through with this upgrade..... anyone have issues with doing this in the past? Should I be concerned about Ford's ability to see my software tweaks?
Thanks!
Hi
I have a problem. I do the steps on my mondeo 2015 Europe but doesnt work. If I insert card says bad SD card. Insert valid SD card..
Do anybody have an idea what ia wrong?
Is maybe bad SD card, or something else?
Regards
Hi, I have my head unit http://www.preston-i-c-e.co.uk/vw-006-oem.php but I think really an Audiosources D90-610, with iGo navigation installed, presumably a dodgy version as it came with it.
I already own Sygic with UK/Europe maps, and prefer this.
When I try and install it, I can't get the maps on anything bit internal memory, which is nearly full. I have 2 MicroSD cards, 32gb and 128gb visible in ES Explorer, but I can't get Sygic to work off them.
I've tried cut/paste the com.sygic.aura to the extSD, but it then asks me to download maps again on internal memory.
Any suggestions?
same POS
Hi Andycat,
Thanks for identifying the unit, also have one from same source.
All in all a disappointing POS.
slow boot, bluetooth drop outs ...., cant get to recovery or have perm root
Installed alk co-pilot to internal ( sdcard ) without issue , have you tried deleting the nav software and maps which came with the unit ? / factory reset ( this deleted the default nav app for me )
What have you got to fill up the internal ?
Passwords are as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...nd-generation-4-4-2-android-21u-ouku-t3230587
Kingoroot roots but only till reboot
Cant say Preston ICE either helpful or knowledgeable , nice touch putting usb chords into glove box, not mentioning vw input in arm rest no longer connected
Photo of top of unit, plugs and an barcode https://flic.kr/p/UtKfP9
Ian
iroberts696 said:
Hi Andycat,
Thanks for identifying the unit, also have one from same source.
All in all a disappointing POS.
slow boot, bluetooth drop outs ...., cant get to recovery or have perm root
Installed alk co-pilot to internal ( sdcard ) without issue , have you tried deleting the nav software and maps which came with the unit ? / factory reset ( this deleted the default nav app for me )
What have you got to fill up the internal ?
Passwords are as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...nd-generation-4-4-2-android-21u-ouku-t3230587
Kingoroot roots but only till reboot
Cant say Preston ICE either helpful or knowledgeable , nice touch putting usb chords into glove box, not mentioning vw input in arm rest no longer connected
Photo of top of unit, plugs and an barcode https://flic.kr/p/UtKfP9
Ian
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Hi Ian,
I ended up putting iQNavi on it as a fresh install. I use Sygic as SatNav though.
Definitely a KItKat unit too, not 5.1 as advertised. Just hacked to look like it.
Does what I need though more or less. Radio average, DAB needs a better aerial. But use Poweramp for music, and iPlayer radio for most stuff anyway.
Keep in touch if you have any tips/ideas.
shall do
andycat said:
Hi Ian,
I ended up putting iQNavi on it as a fresh install. I use Sygic as SatNav though.
Definitely a KItKat unit too, not 5.1 as advertised. Just hacked to look like it.
Does what I need though more or less. Radio average, DAB needs a better aerial. But use Poweramp for music, and iPlayer radio for most stuff anyway.
Keep in touch if you have any tips/ideas.
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Cheers Andy,
suspected KitKat ( can't remember where/which but at least one screen says so ) - android names not so meaningful anyhow ( define loose set of software at various versions ... annually changed by Google , interpreted by vendors with the odd new feature ) and these are very grey units .
Intend getting the button lights to work ( orange wire not connected ) and moving usb to more normal place
Have gone through a lot of the threads here over the last year or so looking for a HU that is able to do what I need and if I need to goto a more common unit available at Best Buy or whatever then so be it. Just know I can't rely on a salesman that don't know what really out there, so I come here. What I need to have for the most part,
1- Able to use and store onX Hunt maps with fairly good response and reliability (good GPS is a must)
2- Able to use Google maps with off-line maps stored
3- Able to use USB thumb drives with mp3 files (music)
4- Root is almost 100 needed to remove Ads with AdAway and Rootexplorer as well as remove bloat using Titanium Backup
5- connect to phone for WiFi when signal is available if needed to confirm onX hunt subscription as needed.
6- Would like to have a rear view camera as an option while driving forward.
7- Must be able to take calls while driving with out all the extra background road noise ect. Think that may have a lot to do with mic placement and such
So as you can see not a lot of things I need to have but they are pretty much needs. This would be installed in my 05 silverado crew cab, and we take it out a lot into forest service lands with very little if any signal so map storage is large since we store the entire state. Currently using an older Nexus 6 with 3 GB ram and 32GB of storage and it works fine but no phone, PITA to use while driving in the woods, and still the pother stuff is missing.
I have looked online and not seeing much of anything as far as anyone using a Android HU and onX Hunt Maps, thinking a PX5 would work possibly but not sure. Would great if someone could check and maybe even do the trial version installed and video the off line driving to see how well the app works, before I drop a bunch of cash for something that isn't going to work. Or may be even on an older unit though I know the Nexus 5X had issues keeping up with map lagging and loading that has only 2GB of ram where the Nexus 6 has 3 GB of ram.
Please help someone, just to check to see if onX Hunt works very well on their unit?
Thanks
Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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coldshiver said:
Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
May I recommend 'Magic Earth' navigation, works fine with no internet but no live data of course.
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
rigattoni said:
First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
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Thanks for a helpful reply. I have already fitted a power injector for the FM antenna which made some difference but I like to listen to radio 4 and there are parts of the country (along the M11, on the A5 in North Wales), where you cannot pick it up on any radio - and of course in Europe where I have just been for a few weeks where I usually don't want the radio on at all. That's why having the nav sound set as a percentage of the existing volume seems a bit odd as it implies you already have some other sound on. Better to have a dedicated channel for it or have the nav mute any other sound.
I'll look at doing all the swiping etc to turn off the radio by closing recent apps although this doesn't seen like a very safe thing to start doing when you drive into a area of poor reception. I was hoping the unit would have a simple press button like in the good old days!
The dongle info is also useful thank you. Xtrons do not make this clear at all. They imply that by plugging it into the socket on the unit you have made a (wired) data connection. If the HU is still only connecting over wifi anyway then I can install the dongle wherever I like in the car so that it gets a good 4G signal, instead of it having to be in the driver footwell at the end of the short USB cable xtrons supply and I can use a dedicated 2A usb adaptor to supply decent power .
I guessed the 'GPS' socket might have nothing to do with GPS. Shame Xtrons couldn't say what it was for instead of just mis-labelling it.
Incidentally. The SIM in the dongle would only ever be used for the navigation to receive traffic updates or bits of map or whatever it needs i.e I don't intend to be surfing the net or downloading Utube videos. Do you have any idea what sort of data requirements this would mean. Would a 250Mb a month sim be enough?
I'll experiment with your suggestions.
rigattoni said:
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I'll look into those thank you. I use maps.me on my phone but couldn't get google maps to work on the HU as it said I was offline. Of course I still need an internet connection to download any of those apps and install them on the HU but I could just park near my house and using the house wifi.
Data plan for using navigation online data depends on the app you use and the amount of mileage per month.
You can use your smartphone first to see what you need in a "normal usage" month and then decide what you need.
If you use any offline map solution, it´s also some sort of usage dependency.
BTW... If you would invest into a higher data plan (2GB), you could use the app Radionator to use Online radio. BBC Radio4 should be in there too. Radionator is the best alternative if you want to listen to one specific radio station. Just needs a stable internet connection, nothing else... and the sound is mostly better than FM.
May be you can use the Navradio+ as alternativ solution for receiving FM radio. Depends on the MCU of your unit. Search for it in MTCD software forum.
rigattoni said:
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
HERE WeGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I would recommend to use HERE WeGo, it served me very well for the years I didn't have mobile internet connection. Also it shows the max allowed speed in most countries, whereas Google Maps doesn't do that.
Sure, Here WeGo is a good choice, even without internet connection.
Is anyone able to help me identify what unit this is? Its meant to be a higher end unit but finding it really sluggish and also looking at some of the reports its using > 6GB of ram OOB out of 8GB (Not sure how the 2GB unit would have worked) .
Sometimes when turning it back on from standby when playing music etc its really jumpy as its its doing something in the background. Anyone got any recommendations on apps to show what using up all the CPU?
It appears to be a UIS8581 based unit, I have run the HWGetinfo tool on it but its reporting its not a FYT unit.
Post Android system information, including MCU version
The version is retuned as "ZLH_AD_OS_1.24" and the MCU "ZLH_QXLA20830A_Q5H0_8581_13"
Rob_Quads said:
The version is retuned as "ZLH_AD_OS_1.24" and the MCU "ZLH_QXLA20830A_Q5H0_8581_13"
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This is a completely known unit in here. Try search yourself in this forum for ZLA_ you won´t find anything.
Bit harsh - I have been search but how am I meant to know to search for ZLA not ZLH? Also, searching for "ZLA_" returns a total of 1 hit, a google search for `XDA developers "ZLA_"` also returns just a couple hits not in this forum?
I'm also with the same thing.
Rob_Quads said:
Bit harsh - I have been search but how am I meant to know to search for ZLA not ZLH? Also, searching for "ZLA_" returns a total of 1 hit, a google search for `XDA developers "ZLA_"` also returns just a couple hits not in this forum?
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ZLA was a typo... sorry.
My posting was not meant to be harsh, but this unit is really completely unknown on XDA.
Yeah that looks like the BMW equivalent to mine with a slightly different CPU
Bhold89 said:
I'm also with the same thing.
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Talking with the seller, mine was sold by COIKA.
It seems that it follows some patterns that are very similar to other HU's, you just need to make the following to update for example, the boot logo:
Folder structure:
- HUTUpdate
- OS
- bootanimation.zip
- logo.png
- upgrade.en (empty file)
- upgrade.system (empty file)
So, if you find other examples of HU types that are Android-based, this may work.
To upgrade the MCU is
- HUTUpdate
- mcu
- upgrade.mcu
- BMW_8581.bin
I was trying to make backups with other tools, but no success yet.
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
simonb123 said:
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
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Which HU do you have?
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
Bhold89 said:
Which HU do you have?
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MTK8581a 8/128 for BMW
Tom1386 said:
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
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Hi i have the same unit on my audi q3 with the same firmware 1.86, also i have problem with bluetooth but i want aks you if you turn off the original bluetooth of your car ? Do you use zlink for carplay/android auto? Thanks
Mikdiba86 said:
Hi i have the same unit on my audi q3 with the same firmware 1.86, also i have problem with bluetooth but i want aks you if you turn off the original bluetooth of your car ? Do you use zlink for carplay/android auto? Thanks
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I use my phone via original Bluetooth on the car. I don't use zlink anymore. As I have the headunit online it makes it easier to use gmaps etc directly.
Do you have a SIM card installed? Does it work? My one does not connect as there is no apn and I cannot set new one. Did you bought it from coika?
Tom1386 said:
I use my phone via original Bluetooth on the car. I don't use zlink anymore. As I have the headunit online it makes it easier to use gmaps etc directly.
Do you have a SIM card installed? Does it work? My one does not connect as there is no apn and I cannot set new one. Did you bought it from coika?
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i use only zlink...because i like the home of carplay..i don't use the sim card ...yes i bought from coika by aliexpress. for me you need disable original bluetooth of car..and use only headunit..one question..but the our unit is mtcd?
I don't know who is the main manufacturer. Coika says they are the own manufacturers. But don't belieb them. Struggling with the service people since days... Apps are closing after you switch to car system... bluetooth is only working with mobile phone...no obd device etc... SIM card is not working...but they keep me waiting
Similar unit here (Mercedes version):
Version: ZLH_BZ_OS_1.80
MCU: ZLH_BZL221030A_8581_13
Android version 12 (fake - it's 10 - see below)
More info in attached photos.
The 8888 code gets you into factory settings, as in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-not-fyt-based-read-first-post-first.4525675/
I installed the "Fake Device Test" app and it closes after 1 or 2 seconds (possible sabotage by the device?) but I managed to get the OS info by quickly flicking down the screen while videoing it, then playing back in slow motion. This confirmed the Android API level as 29 (ie Android 10). It also seems to confirm the claimed 8GB RAM and 1920x720 screen are correct.
I want to have a poke around with ADB and busybox, but so far haven't been able connect. The unit claims to be rooted.
Wireless Android Auto works, but one minor annoyance is that my phone seems to give up on Android Auto before the unit is ready to connect. A quick toggle of bluetooth and reconnect to the unit once it's ready is necessary. Also, you need to use a cable for AA when the ZLink app on the device is set to HD - wireless AA on HD delivers a pillarboxed display.
And despite all the images on AliExpress showing 5 icons per page in the launcher, I've only got 3 per page. Is this launcher configurable?
I don't know why exactly, but I have a nagging suspicion that the screen might be a lower resolution than reported, I need to see what the kernel/sysfs says. Do these units have a dmesg somewhere? Or could there be a problem caused by the screen being reported as only 7 inches, as I saw in the output of one of the System Info apps I tried? (Screen is actually 10.25 inches.
One thing I really want to do is get a full backup in case of future problems. Is using TWRP possible on these devices? There is a 1.5 GB "update.zip" on the internal storage, I need get a copy and examine it.
Investigations continue, I'll report back. In the meantime, does anyone have any thoughts on the above?
Tom1386 said:
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
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I have gooting a new 9" android unit for AUDI. With same seller and issue.
Thinking of making a thread
simonb123 said:
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
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I have AUDI ill compare because folder structurer is similar