Best Device To Get Access To Android? - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

Hi guys,
I'm currently using an iPhone and an iPad as my main phone and tablet but I still want access to Android. I enjoy trying customs ROMS and rooting and all of that stuff that ANDROID allows you to do and so I'm looking for an affordable device - nothing fancy - that will allow me to explore Android. Someone suggested that I get the Moto G5 Plus as it's affordable and a capable device.
I'd be getting the 32 gb international version. My questions are:
1) Is this the best/most affordable device to experience android on?
2) Can it be easily rooted?
3) Can I use custom ROMS?
This is the version that I'm considering buying:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01N5...dpPl=1&dpID=51riiKk3VNL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1
I also recently got an Amazon Fire HD 10 hoping to install custom ROMS on there, but as of right now, that's not possible.

razers7t8 said:
Hi guys,
I'm currently using an iPhone and an iPad I enjoy trying customs ROMS and rooting and all of that stuff
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How can you enjoy flashing roms on iphone?
that's impossible

siddhesh9146 said:
How can you enjoy flashing roms on iphone?
that's impossible
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Hi guys,
I'm currently using an iPhone and an iPad as my main phone and tablet but I still want access to Android. I enjoy trying customs ROMS and rooting and all of that stuff that ANDROID allows you to do and so I'm looking for an affordable device - nothing fancy - that will allow me to explore Android. Someone suggested that I get the Moto G5 Plus as it's affordable and a capable device.
I'd be getting the 32 gb international version. My questions are:
1) Is this the best/most affordable device to experience android on?
2) Can it be easily rooted?
3) Can I use custom ROMS?
This is the version that I'm considering buying :
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01N5...dpPl=1&dpID=51riiKk3VNL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1
I also recently got an Amazon Fire HD 10 hoping to install custom ROMS on there, but as of right now, that's not possible.

siddhesh9146 said:
How can you enjoy flashing roms on iphone?
that's impossible
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OP probably means they've had Android phones in the past and enjoyed rooting/custom ROMs/etc with them.
Best Cheap Android Phones of 2017 [Android Central]
They just rated Moto G5 Plus as best overall and I've seen several other articles also listing it at the top or very highly.
OP's linked 'standard/no-ads' model technically meets all three criteria, but I can't say if 2 GB RAM takes adequate advantage of all it offers. My 4 GB XT1687 model runs the latest Android 8.0/8.1 64-bit ROMs with very good performance & battery life, plus they provide the latest security patches while Stock is still at Android 7.0 with several month old security patches.

Dahenjo said:
OP probably means they've had Android phones in the past and enjoyed rooting/custom ROMs/etc with them.
Best Cheap Android Phones of 2017 [Android Central]
They just rated Moto G5 Plus as best overall and I've seen several other articles also listing it at the top or very highly.
OP's linked 'standard/no-ads' model technically meets all three criteria, but I can't say if 2 GB RAM takes adequate advantage of all it offers. My 4 GB XT1687 model runs the latest Android 8.0/8.1 64-bit ROMs with very good performance & battery life, plus they provide the latest security patches while Stock is still at Android 7.0 with several month old security patches.
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Thank you! How about this phone? It's cheaper, has more ram and a better display.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B0169...blackberry&dpPl=1&dpID=41-frWt48FL&ref=plSrch

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After doing some research, I've narrowed my choice down to these two phones:
Moto G5 Plus 64GB and 4GB RAM
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MU7MK6E/ref=twister_B01NCYZTP4
And
Moto G5S Plus 32 GB and 3 GB RAM.
https://www.amazon.ca/Motorola-Gena...&qid=1514406800&sr=8-1&keywords=Moto+g5s+plus
Which is the better buy?

4gb with 64gb, pretty future proof, and G5plus camera constantly reviewed as better overall than the newer S version.
Mind you if you do not care about camera, then S case + sceensize are better

Smeagal192 said:
4gb with 64gb, pretty future proof, and G5plus camera constantly reviewed as better overall than the newer S version.
Mind you if you do not care about camera, then S case + sceensize are better
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I ordered the Moto G5S Plus 32 GB with 3 GB of RAM. I can't wait to root and try out some ROMS!

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[Q] WIll 16 GB suffice?

Dear All,
I know what I'm asking is also personal preference.
Currently I own a Z1, but due to the bootloader issue when unlocking the bootloader your camera function breaks and very small rom community, it crossed my mind to buy a LG G2 (and what also helps is the terrific battery life).
The thing which is currently me holding back to buy a LG G2 is regarding the the 16GB. In The Netherlands they don't sell the 32GB version.
My questions are:
1. How much space does a custom LG stock rom software needs?
2. How much space does AOSP normally rom needs?
Thanks guys
JayantSparda said:
The thing which is currently me holding back to buy a LG G2 is regarding the the 16GB. In The Netherlands they don't sell the 32GB version.
My questions are:
1. How much space does a custom LG stock rom software needs?
2. How much space does AOSP normally rom needs?
Thanks guys
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I don't know how closely this will apply to your version, but my stock T-Mobile USA 32GB model shows 24GB of space, of which I've already used up 8 GB just loading up all my usual apps and such.
Seems like 16GB is likely to feel cramped.
Got the phone yesterday...so far, 1st impression, love it. Best phone I've owned...and I've owned quite a few
Zanthexter said:
I don't know how closely this will apply to your version, but my stock T-Mobile USA 32GB model shows 24GB of space, of which I've already used up 8 GB just loading up all my usual apps and such.
Seems like 16GB is likely to feel cramped.
Got the phone yesterday...so far, 1st impression, love it. Best phone I've owned...and I've owned quite a few
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Thanks for your answer Zanthexter.
16 GB's feels definitely cramped yeah..
JayantSparda said:
Dear All,
I know what I'm asking is also personal preference.
Currently I own a Z1, but due to the bootloader issue when unlocking the bootloader your camera function breaks and very small rom community, it crossed my mind to buy a LG G2 (and what also helps is the terrific battery life).
The thing which is currently me holding back to buy a LG G2 is regarding the the 16GB. In The Netherlands they don't sell the 32GB version.
My questions are:
1. How much space does a custom LG stock rom software needs?
2. How much space does AOSP normally rom needs?
Thanks guys
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I think I asked somewhere. Since there it's no repartitioning. The roms take the same space.
Had before a 32GB hox. That was enough with USB otg.
Now this 16 having only 10 GB left. With one backup almost 3GB compressed. Some pics and one big game Asphalt and I can't do a second backup....
Without USB OTG a 16 would be for me unstable unusable....
Still waiting for my meenova
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LG customers (along with many others) get 50gb free space on box for lifetime at the moment.
No effing way. The OS/ROM holds 9 GB ransom. I suppose 16GB would be OK for a casual user, but casual users wouldn't register for an XDA account.
Flipping ridiculous, man. I don't need, or particularly want, all the fancy animations and stuff. 9 gigs for a phone OS? The Linux instance on my HTPC is half that... Shoot, I can trim Windows 7 down to within spitting distance of that.
Can't wait for true skinny stable AOSP 4.4 on this device.
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Time to upgrade

I've been having some issues with my Note 3. My current ROM is no longer supported (CleanROM), and in fact, the dev retired from android altogether.
I looked around at some of the threads for a new ROM, and they all seem to be filled with dead links.
So I'm thinking it's time to move on to a new phone. I've heard that the current lineup from Samsung has issues, so I'm kinda curious what everybody else is going to or what you recommend.
Plenty of live roms on here .
Staying with Note 3 me .
Xaotikdesigns said:
I've been having some issues with my Note 3. My current ROM is no longer supported (CleanROM), and in fact, the dev retired from android altogether.
I looked around at some of the threads for a new ROM, and they all seem to be filled with dead links.
So I'm thinking it's time to move on to a new phone. I've heard that the current lineup from Samsung has issues, so I'm kinda curious what everybody else is going to or what you recommend.
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I advice to you that incredible ROM that make my NOTE 3 revive by its smoothness, speed, power in games, extraordinary good battery life !!!!
The link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/6-0-1-touchwiz-marshmallow-note-3-t3349306
Enjoy !
Xaotikdesigns said:
I've been having some issues with my Note 3. My current ROM is no longer supported (CleanROM), and in fact, the dev retired from android altogether.
I looked around at some of the threads for a new ROM, and they all seem to be filled with dead links.
So I'm thinking it's time to move on to a new phone. I've heard that the current lineup from Samsung has issues, so I'm kinda curious what everybody else is going to or what you recommend.
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Actually newer Samsung phones almost don't need rooting and flashing to be usable.
And the Note 6 (latest rumors claim it's gonna be called Note 7) is going to be a massive powerhouse, you could wait for it to come out in August.
In the meantime the OnePlus 3 is going to come out.
Huawei P9 Plus is also good, from what I've read.
Pick one.
sirobelec said:
Actually newer Samsung phones almost don't need rooting and flashing to be usable.
And the Note 6 (latest rumors claim it's gonna be called Note 7) is going to be a massive powerhouse, you could wait for it to come out in August.
In the meantime the OnePlus 3 is going to come out.
Huawei P9 Plus is also good, from what I've read.
Pick one.
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I have discovered Meizu and it's the best Android constructor.
I have the PRO 5 (409euros = 420$) and it's the best smartphone of 2015 ! Better flagship for that price !
-> 4GB DDR4 RAM, 64GB ROM, similar specs as the S6 Edge, but more powerful
+ 200GB ext-sdcard Lexar 633x (115euros = 125$)
And the best of this phone is its alone button to do "back" and "home", his OS FlyMe, like Touchwiz, based on Android, but with Apple inspiration for good ideas...
And that phone has an incredible good audio render ! With a DAC (digital to analog converter) integrated.
cedric3 said:
I have discovered Meizu and it's the best Android constructor.
I have the PRO 5 (409euros = 420$) and it's the best smartphone of 2015 ! Better flagship for that price !
-> 4GB DDR4 RAM, 64GB ROM, similar specs as the S6 Edge, but more powerful
+ 200GB ext-sdcard Lexar 633x (115euros = 125$)
And the best of this phone is its alone button to do "back" and "home", his OS FlyMe, like Touchwiz, based on Android, but with Apple inspiration for good ideas...
And that phone has an incredible good audio render ! With a DAC (digital to analog converter) integrated.
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This thing was the best phone of 2015, I agree here.
But we gotta look forward.
I myself still haven't found something truly powerful enough to justify an upgrade from my Note 3, but this Autumn there will be some heavy hitters that might make me consider it. Note 6 (or 7, whatever they gonna call it), the new Nexus phones...

Why the development of ROM,KERNEL and other third party support is so slow

I am a moto g(2013) user and I found out that the development of moto g4/g4 plus,compare to the previous models,is extremely slow or even no significant progree at all.I wonder if it is the unpopularity of this device,or the difficulty in developing this devices from scratch.This bother me so much that I consider buying the moto g 2015 rather than this
Me too.. All moto g series phone are booting 7.0 but we are still way behind..
in my experience all of the moto series of devices have slower development. the G4 isn't a very popular phone for most devs, its a budget device. personally stock, rooted, elementalx and substratum are perfect for me right now. we should have android 7.0 by the holidays.
Why don't you develop some stuff instead? That way, we will have more things to flash.
fix-this! said:
in my experience all of the moto series of devices have slower development. the G4 isn't a very popular phone for most devs, its a budget device. personally stock, rooted, elementalx and substratum are perfect for me right now. we should have android 7.0 by the holidays.
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are substratum themes fully compatible? can i fully theme notifcation bar etc using substratum?
You want faster development? Buy an extra G4Plus and send it as a gift to a developer. I know a couple that took the task of developing CM13 for various phones because they got the devices free.

Custom ROMs for Tab 8 Plus?

Im thinking about getting a Tab 8 plus 4/64 to replace my Nexus 7 2013.
I don't see much development support for the Tab 8 Plus. Great to see TWRP and root.
Do you think there will be an XDA community for this device?
There are so few upgrade choices from the Nexus 7.
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swieder711 said:
Im thinking about getting a Tab 8 plus 4/64 to replace my Nexus 7 2013.
I don't see much development support for the Tab 8 Plus. Great to see TWRP and root.
Do you think there will be an XDA community for this device?
There are so few upgrade choices from the Nexus 7.
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There seems to be a problem in terms of availability for the tablet worldwide, which is why very few reports have come through.
I have specifically bought this Tab 4 Plus with WiFi and 64GB storage as a Nexus 7 replacement and I am super happy with the decision. Custom recovery and root works as described. Give it a couple of weeks and I assume there will be a dedicated forum for the Tab 4 Plus here on XDA. And as soon as Lenovo publishes the kernel sources for the device, there will be many custom ROMs to choose from.
Right now, the Android on the device is pretty vanilla and serves its purpose very well.
Giving this thread a bump. Dev support for this device still seems pretty quiet. Been eyeing the 4/64 GB on eBay for $330. It ships from Korea.
DF5JT said:
There seems to be a problem in terms of availability for the tablet worldwide, which is why very few reports have come through.
I have specifically bought this Tab 4 Plus with WiFi and 64GB storage as a Nexus 7 replacement and I am super happy with the decision. Custom recovery and root works as described. Give it a couple of weeks and I assume there will be a dedicated forum for the Tab 4 Plus here on XDA. And as soon as Lenovo publishes the kernel sources for the device, there will be many custom ROMs to choose from.
Right now, the Android on the device is pretty vanilla and serves its purpose very well.
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Do you know if it passes SafetyNet with Magisk 14.3 and Magisk Hide or if it will require a custom kernel to hide the bootloader status?
Hey, I got myself a Tab 4 8 Plus from South Korea recently - the 4 GB RAM / 64 GB storage version. I've used CyanogenMod and LineageOS for ages on my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 2013, and I'm a little sad the Tab isn't supported yet. If anyone involved in development is interested, I'd be happy to help however I can with my device. I'm not familiar with Android development, however - I'd totally try and port LineageOS to this if I could.
there's a guy in the root thread that was saying he was starting a debloated ROM. lets see if he delivers. this sure is the best android tablet in the market!
Hi guys, I just got this tablet from singapore seller, but it come with chinese rom,
I'm not familiar with lenovo (use to be xiaomi fans).
Is there any tutorial available to change it to global rom? and is there any forum to discuss bugs on each rom version like on the xiaomi miui forum?
I can't find any donwloadable link in the lenovo web support.
Thanks
I did get a Lenovo Tab 4 8 Plus to replace my aging Nexus 7 2013. Unfortunately, that was two months ago now and I'm still using my Nexus as this Tab 4 keeps cooking uSD cards. Apparently it's a known problem, some say hardware, some say software, some claim it was fixed with the December 2017 update, some say it's still there. Either way, I want to root this potentially sweet tablet and drop on Lineage or something custom before I give up on it, but for that I want a decent custom ROM.
enigmo said:
I did get a Lenovo Tab 4 8 Plus to replace my aging Nexus 7 2013. Unfortunately, that was two months ago now and I'm still using my Nexus as this Tab 4 keeps cooking uSD cards. Apparently it's a known problem, some say hardware, some say software, some claim it was fixed with the December 2017 update, some say it's still there. Either way, I want to root this potentially sweet tablet and drop on Lineage or something custom before I give up on it, but for that I want a decent custom ROM.
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Since the source code was published by Lenovo there is now a good chance to get something custom if there will be a developer to help us out building a rom.
I did read a lot of complaints about a lack of source code from lenovo, but it was released in November from what I can see. That's six months ago, so I wouldn't hold my breath for anything useful soon.
This nifty little tablet is really awesome. The almost stock android experience is nice... But the additional customisations of a custom ROM would be helpful. Right now lenovos system UI is quite picky about being modded and would FC when I try to tweak the nav bar.
yes, maybe after oreo update there will be some custom rom...
fivex said:
This nifty little tablet is really awesome. The almost stock android experience is nice... But the additional customisations of a custom ROM would be helpful. Right now lenovos system UI is quite picky about being modded and would FC when I try to tweak the nav bar.
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I use Xposed and GravityBox to modify the look of the Nav bar.

Some questions before buying the phone.

I know it's been 1.5 years since the phone is out but since it's cheap (235$), I am considering to buy it (A2017G model).
1. Can I root this phone in stock rom, or do I need to go with a custom rom?
2. Is the stock rom good? ... and will there be new custom roms?
3. Is it worth buying this or should I wait and buy a new phone? (My budget is low so a new phone means mid-low range for me like redmi note 5 which will come in a few months.)
Thanks in advance. :good:
ahalak said:
I know it's been 1.5 years since the phone is out but since it's cheap (235$), I am considering to buy it (A2017G model).
1. Can I root this phone in stock rom, or do I need to go with a custom rom?
2. Is the stock rom good? ... and will there be new custom roms?
3. Is it worth buying this or should I wait and buy a new phone? (My budget is low so a new phone means mid-low range for me like redmi note 5 which will come in a few months.)
Thanks in advance. :good:
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1. yes
2. subjective. i think it's pretty nice
3. subjective. but the sd820 hauls a$$ compared to midrange cpus, and the 2K amoled is just too good
Choose an username... said:
1. yes
2. subjective. i think it's pretty nice
3. subjective. but the sd820 hauls a$$ compared to midrange cpus, and the 2K amoled is just too good
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I asked about rooting because I have seen that I can't use twrp or unlock bootloader before downgrading to marshmallow in a thread here, so I was just wondering about the latest update is possible to use with twrp and root.
Thanks for the answers btw.
ahalak said:
I asked about rooting because I have seen that I can't use twrp or unlock bootloader before downgrading to marshmallow in a thread here, so I was just wondering about the latest update is possible to use with twrp and root.
Thanks for the answers btw.
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you just read one thread about rooting. the same process can be mande in N without trouble
ahalak said:
I know it's been 1.5 years since the phone is out but since it's cheap (235$), I am considering to buy it (A2017G model).
1. Can I root this phone in stock rom, or do I need to go with a custom rom?
2. Is the stock rom good? ... and will there be new custom roms?
3. Is it worth buying this or should I wait and buy a new phone? (My budget is low so a new phone means mid-low range for me like redmi note 5 which will come in a few months.)
Thanks in advance. :good:
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1) You can root this phone without any problem.
2) The stock rom is decent, if you have apps that need a clean rom from no root and tampering, I suggest you stick with stock, it does everything alright.
3) It is totally worth to buy the phone, the price you mentioned is decent for a new one. There is basically no other phone within that range that has an excellent camera, stereo front facing speakers, fast fingerprint sensor, 2k amoled screen(same panel as in the google pixel 1 XL), 4gb of ram, 64gb storage WITH the ability to add a SD-card for additional storage. Lastly it comes with a SD820 which is a beast regardless and very power efficient(if you don't mind no gaming to light gaming).
I bought mine 2nd hand for 140€ a best buy for me coming from a xperia m4 aqua.

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