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Where the hell are those AOSP ROMs?!

I'm starting to be really pissed off, what's problem with N3? I don't get it, i saw kondik's photo on twitter like 2 months ago and yet there is no even nighty nighty build or ultranighty, nothing. Other devices like G2, Z1 got AOSP long time ago.

tafmasterpl said:
I'm starting to be really pissed off, what's problem with N3? I don't get it, i saw kondik's photo on twitter like 2 months ago and yet there is no even nighty nighty build or ultranighty, nothing. Other devices like G2, Z1 got AOSP long time ago.
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Developers have lives. plus if you read CMs site and blogs and posts you'll see that schoolwork comes first for a couple of them, plus they probably won't bother with the Note 3 until KitKat is released... If you are that desperately craving AOSP why did you buy a Samsung device? A company that is notoriously slow with updates/ROM stuff etc.... - Just sell it and go buy a Nexus.

Aosp stands for android open source project. Aka stock android.
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radicalisto said:
Developers have lives. plus if you read CMs site and blogs and posts you'll see that schoolwork comes first for a couple of them, plus they probably won't bother with the Note 3 until KitKat is released... If you are that desperately craving AOSP why did you buy a Samsung device? A company that is notoriously slow with updates/ROM stuff etc.... - Just sell it and go buy a Nexus.
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That's the answer. Samdung has an absolutely horrible history in the Open Source community, and it's not getting better anytime soon. Anybody who wants AOSP/CM ROMS should NEVER buy a Samdung device.
They do make great devices, but they have the worst attitude toward the dev community, routinely providing incomplete and/or outdated sources and/or the absolutely bare minimum required for a questionable level of GPL compliance, and they'll never provide userspace drivers, which is where 90% of the problems are in supporting their devices.
It's just a reality, and anyone hoping for full compliance and an open and friendly attitude toward AOSP/CM community is delusional.

donalgodon said:
That's the answer. Samdung has an absolutely horrible history in the Open Source community, and it's not getting better anytime soon. Anybody who wants AOSP/CM ROMS should NEVER buy a Samdung device.
They do make great devices, but they have the worst attitude toward the dev community, routinely providing incomplete and/or outdated sources and/or the absolutely bare minimum required for a questionable level of GPL compliance, and they'll never provide userspace drivers, which is where 90% of the problems are in supporting their devices.
It's just a reality, and anyone hoping for full compliance and an open and friendly attitude toward AOSP/CM community is delusional.
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Give me an SD Card option or at least 64GB option and I will do it asap, that's all i ask, i don't even need removable battery and 5.7 inch screen, just SDCard or bigger storage option and powerful processor(Snap 800 is fine!). Please don't tell me about "mighty cloud services" i want normal storage for my music.
But guys tell me one thing, there is no such thing like Galaxy Note 2 google edition and there is a CM rom, there is no LG G2. Sony Z1 and others Google edition roms, and they have CM or any other stock android variations literally DAYS after release, note has none, totally, literally, NOTHING. Why no love for note ? I really don't get it. :crying:

Few people are ready to give up the support for S-Pen and adopt AOSP based roms. Besides the S-Pen is the main reason people buy the note series.

I actually bought the phone because it makes an awesome reading device. I only used s pen to try it out. i yet have to find the killer feature I would use it more often for.
I'm rooted, added a different launcher and some widgets and it comes now pretty close to what I wanted. If you want other roms, be patient. It took long for the razr HD but I finally put pacman rom on it. So I'd say it comes down to what you really want. If the latest FW is top priority you have to live with small onboard memory. I prefer the big screen and have all my apps and music right on the phone on a 64gb sd card including navigation and maps. I can't stand all this cloud stuff for different reasons, the biggest one being privacy. But these are just my 2 cent.

Mikegrmn said:
I actually bought the phone because it makes an awesome reading device. I only used s pen to try it out. i yet have to find the killer feature I would use it more often for.
I'm rooted, added a different launcher and some widgets and it comes now pretty close to what I wanted. If you want other roms, be patient. It took long for the razr HD but I finally put pacman rom on it. So I'd say it comes down to what you really want. If the latest FW is top priority you have to live with small onboard memory. I prefer the big screen and have all my apps and music right on the phone on a 64gb sd card including navigation and maps. I can't stand all this cloud stuff for different reasons, the biggest one being privacy. But these are just my 2 cent.
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Pretty same as me, i just need storage for all my music and i was really tired because my iphone 4 32GB was almost always fullfiled to the max, I hate deleting and need to choose between tracks. The S-Pen is working, i don't know what's about that, note 2 has tons of AOSP ROMs and many peoples are fine with that.

tafmasterpl said:
Give me an SD Card option or at least 64GB option and I will do it ASAP...
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Same reasons here. But big screen in a small frame was what sold it. Almost got the oppo, but besel and weight made note3 the best hardware. Figured the snapdragon would make this device fully aosp supported, but so far no love.
SPen..? I've got gmd pen gestures, papyrus, better screenshot, etc. I can easily have all the "tw functions" i need on an aosp rom. Samsung has nothing that I can't get better versions of through play
Imagine this hardware and omnirom.. I can't wait, and as soon as an alfa is out I'm on it..

Mikegrmn said:
I actually bought the phone because it makes an awesome reading device. I only used s pen to try it out. i yet have to find the killer feature I would use it more often for.
I'm rooted, added a different launcher and some widgets and it comes now pretty close to what I wanted. If you want other roms, be patient. It took long for the razr HD but I finally put pacman rom on it. So I'd say it comes down to what you really want. If the latest FW is top priority you have to live with small onboard memory. I prefer the big screen and have all my apps and music right on the phone on a 64gb sd card including navigation and maps. I can't stand all this cloud stuff for different reasons, the biggest one being privacy. But these are just my 2 cent.
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Where did you download the pacman rom form i can find it for the s3, but not the Note3?

The dev community seems to be struggling at the moment (at least with this and the Motorola moto g).
It's a sad time when you have to buy a phone with the possibility of never being able to leave stock firmware (luckily moto g is almost vanilla)
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ninja75 said:
Where did you download the pacman rom form i can find it for the s3, but not the Note3?
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Pacman is not for the Note 3 yet. I wrote that it took a while until it came to my Motorola Razr HD.

I would absolutely LOVE an AOSP stock rom for my Note 3. Something like the google play edition of the S4 would be perfect... really surprised this has not been done yet, especially with the hardcore specs of the Note 3, hopefully OmniROM will provide our needs!

Mikegrmn said:
Pacman is not for the Note 3 yet. I wrote that it took a while until it came to my Motorola Razr HD.
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Thanks, this is the only thing holding me back from getting the note 3

Is the Redmi 2 still worth it?

Hey all,
This is my first post in quite a while on XDA, since I was basically forced to move to IOS (my Ascend Mate 7 was stolen a few months ago ).
I really, really miss Android, and wish to return to the ecosystem that I love most by buying a "cheap and cheerful" Android device out of contract. Xiaomi devices have started popping up in my local stores, thus I was wondering if you guys can offer any insight on whether moving to the Redmi 2 would garner a satisfactory experience (coming from an iPhone 5s)? I wouldn't label myself as a power user anymore, though I am a huge fan of tweaking and ricing my phones, thus I do not need a octa-core gazillion GB RAM powerhouse (yet). Just enough to do all the usual phone stuff and perhaps play Downwell / Pocket Morties every once in a while. Does the Redmi stand up to these needs?
Also if I do pick one up I will absolutely stick a Cyanogenmod (or equivalent) ROM on the phone, thus can anyone comment on performance gain / loss after flashing a custom ROM? Are there any ROM suggestions for daily use (I probably won't flash a different ROM every week, but rather settle on the most stable and closest-to-stock ROM I can find)?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers! :good:

I think Redmi 2 Pro/Prime is still worth it, but not sure about 2/2A. Even miui 8 for redmi 2 is based on kitkat while pro/prime seems to be based on lollipop. Features like second space and other new things that miui 8 brings are absent from kitkat version.
Now, CM13 is getting pretty stable, and premaca and nick are working on Nougat and CM14, and not only this, it boots. Thee are not a lot of phones running Nougatand Redmi 2 is one of those few add to this the price and could sound ad a no-brainer.

Best Device To Get Access To Android?

Hi guys,
I'm currently using an iPhone and an iPad as my main phone and tablet but I still want access to Android. I enjoy trying customs ROMS and rooting and all of that stuff that ANDROID allows you to do and so I'm looking for an affordable device - nothing fancy - that will allow me to explore Android. Someone suggested that I get the Moto G5 Plus as it's affordable and a capable device.
I'd be getting the 32 gb international version. My questions are:
1) Is this the best/most affordable device to experience android on?
2) Can it be easily rooted?
3) Can I use custom ROMS?
This is the version that I'm considering buying:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01N5...dpPl=1&dpID=51riiKk3VNL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1
I also recently got an Amazon Fire HD 10 hoping to install custom ROMS on there, but as of right now, that's not possible.

razers7t8 said:
Hi guys,
I'm currently using an iPhone and an iPad I enjoy trying customs ROMS and rooting and all of that stuff
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How can you enjoy flashing roms on iphone?
that's impossible

siddhesh9146 said:
How can you enjoy flashing roms on iphone?
that's impossible
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Hi guys,
I'm currently using an iPhone and an iPad as my main phone and tablet but I still want access to Android. I enjoy trying customs ROMS and rooting and all of that stuff that ANDROID allows you to do and so I'm looking for an affordable device - nothing fancy - that will allow me to explore Android. Someone suggested that I get the Moto G5 Plus as it's affordable and a capable device.
I'd be getting the 32 gb international version. My questions are:
1) Is this the best/most affordable device to experience android on?
2) Can it be easily rooted?
3) Can I use custom ROMS?
This is the version that I'm considering buying :
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01N5...dpPl=1&dpID=51riiKk3VNL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1
I also recently got an Amazon Fire HD 10 hoping to install custom ROMS on there, but as of right now, that's not possible.

siddhesh9146 said:
How can you enjoy flashing roms on iphone?
that's impossible
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OP probably means they've had Android phones in the past and enjoyed rooting/custom ROMs/etc with them.
Best Cheap Android Phones of 2017 [Android Central]
They just rated Moto G5 Plus as best overall and I've seen several other articles also listing it at the top or very highly.
OP's linked 'standard/no-ads' model technically meets all three criteria, but I can't say if 2 GB RAM takes adequate advantage of all it offers. My 4 GB XT1687 model runs the latest Android 8.0/8.1 64-bit ROMs with very good performance & battery life, plus they provide the latest security patches while Stock is still at Android 7.0 with several month old security patches.

Dahenjo said:
OP probably means they've had Android phones in the past and enjoyed rooting/custom ROMs/etc with them.
Best Cheap Android Phones of 2017 [Android Central]
They just rated Moto G5 Plus as best overall and I've seen several other articles also listing it at the top or very highly.
OP's linked 'standard/no-ads' model technically meets all three criteria, but I can't say if 2 GB RAM takes adequate advantage of all it offers. My 4 GB XT1687 model runs the latest Android 8.0/8.1 64-bit ROMs with very good performance & battery life, plus they provide the latest security patches while Stock is still at Android 7.0 with several month old security patches.
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Thank you! How about this phone? It's cheaper, has more ram and a better display.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B0169...blackberry&dpPl=1&dpID=41-frWt48FL&ref=plSrch

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After doing some research, I've narrowed my choice down to these two phones:
Moto G5 Plus 64GB and 4GB RAM
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MU7MK6E/ref=twister_B01NCYZTP4
And
Moto G5S Plus 32 GB and 3 GB RAM.
https://www.amazon.ca/Motorola-Gena...&qid=1514406800&sr=8-1&keywords=Moto+g5s+plus
Which is the better buy?

4gb with 64gb, pretty future proof, and G5plus camera constantly reviewed as better overall than the newer S version.
Mind you if you do not care about camera, then S case + sceensize are better

Smeagal192 said:
4gb with 64gb, pretty future proof, and G5plus camera constantly reviewed as better overall than the newer S version.
Mind you if you do not care about camera, then S case + sceensize are better
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I ordered the Moto G5S Plus 32 GB with 3 GB of RAM. I can't wait to root and try out some ROMS!

Android Oreo + Go

The Note 8.0 is an old device, but it is irreplaceable to me (excluding $1200+ tablets/laptops). I updated it to AOSP KitKat last year, but it was unusable.
Wouldn't Android 8.1 and Go make it feel like new again? Go was made for even less powerful devices than it.
Just had a random thought I had.

This would be awesome.
The note is a really good niche device, but I think there's finally a good replacement in the form of an iPad Pro + Apple Pencil for about $500.

vinegarr said:
The Note 8.0 is an old device, but it is irreplaceable to me (excluding $1200+ tablets/laptops). I updated it to AOSP KitKat last year, but it was unusable.
Wouldn't Android 8.1 and Go make it feel like new again? Go was made for even less powerful devices than it.
Just had a random thought I had.
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Major downgrade in my opinion. Tried custom firmwares, and found stock is best. Just customised my stock to be better for user experience, and am happy with things working 100% as if out of the box.

yes i hope so...Android oreo go is awesome...new OS with minimum requirement...i think for now it's still hard to develop...

Still Worth Buying?

So I was thinking of buying a 10 off of eBay for around $165. Is this phone's development dead, other than maintenance, since I'd assume HTC will not support it for Android Pie being 2.5 years old. Without oem firmware can this phone even work on stock Android, like 9.0 Lineage or something equivalent? Would anyone recommend buying this so late in its lifecycle?

kdsmith10000 said:
So I was thinking of buying a 10 off of eBay for around $165. Is this phone's development dead, other than maintenance, since I'd assume HTC will not support it for Android Pie being 2.5 years old. Without oem firmware can this phone even work on stock Android, like 9.0 Lineage or something equivalent? Would anyone recommend buying this so late in its lifecycle?
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For that price, I would say yes since it's still pretty powerful. I believe Lineage development is proceeding on this phone but you can check that out yourself in the LOS thread. There won't be anymore updates from HTC.
Ultimately it'll depend on your budget, so if you can spend more, you can always go for something newer

kdsmith10000 said:
So I was thinking of buying a 10 off of eBay for around $165. Is this phone's development dead, other than maintenance, since I'd assume HTC will not support it for Android Pie being 2.5 years old. Without oem firmware can this phone even work on stock Android, like 9.0 Lineage or something equivalent? Would anyone recommend buying this so late in its lifecycle?
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At the risk of driving up the price, since I'm currently looking too, I'd say "yes." I have been scouring the smartphone marked for a device no larger than the HTC 10, with sdcard support that runs on Verizon with all features (i.e. wifi calling, hd calling, etc.)
Nothing exists yet. While the Sony Xperia and LG models are appealing, they are (with the exception of the Compact) larger and heavier. Plus they have their own issues (Sony puts out more flagships so models are outmoded more quickly; and their support is allegedly mediocre, not that HTC's is anything to write home about). I even toyed with abandoning ship and moving to iphone, but largely their devices are larger and of course no sdcard support (plus, I hate iOS and many must-have apps are Android only). I even toyed with a U12+, but they're too damn expensive, and for reasons I'm not allowed to say, it wouldn't be my first, second or third choice of handsets.
My 10 dates from the first day of availability, which means the 3,000 mAh battery now has the life of a 1450 mAh battery which is just not good enough to function with. A brand new in box HTC 10 will have an "older" but unused battery and that alone would wake it worth the purchase.
That having been said, yes, development is mostly dead. It's possible someone will port Pie to the device, but honestly, Oreo is so aweful on it that if I bought a "new" 10 now, I'd probably try to keep it on Nougat indefinitely. At least until there are new flagships next spring, maybe even one from HTC that isn't so damn twitchy with unusable non-buttons.