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Well, I found this camera comparison (OP5T vs Lumia 950 XL):
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/22616_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_950_.php
The Lumia 950 XL handily won out here. Those ZEISS optics are on another level. And evidently so:
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/22562_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_950_.php
The second link is between the Lumia 950 XL and the Pixel 2XL...and even the 2XL gets beat by this thing. FYI the Lumia 950 XL is a two-year-old phone. Wow... I've talked about the extent to which cameras have improved recently, but I did not realize how much better the cameras of certain older devices could be compared to everything else on the market today. Those Lumia phones from two-three years ago were on another level with their ZEISS optics. The Nokia 8 has those as well, but gets absolutely decimated by this thing.

My brother has a 950 XL. Very awesome phone, but horrible OS.

Too bad Nokia decided to commit suicide by making Windows Phones. Who knows what could have been had they jumped right in on Android from the start.

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htc 8x available for preorder

didnt find a seperate device section for the htc 8x..so posting it here
the htc 8x is on demo at the dubai GITEX fest..and is available for pre order at 1999 aed( approx 550$)..the price for the 8s is not mentioned though.
550$ is quite a lot. You are better off getting Lumia 820 instead of this.
Anyway, I expect this to go down after the official release.
the 8x is worth the 550$ in my opinion and is almost equal to the 920 in comparison..but then i would get the lumia 920
Thats cheap, only 425EUR! Amazon (uk) preorder is currently at 500 EUR (or 645 USD) and Lumia 920 is starting at 599€ (or 770 USD) (Italy).. so yeah well worth it
lugi93 said:
Thats cheap, only 425EUR! Amazon (uk) preorder is currently at 500 EUR (or 645 USD) and Lumia 920 is starting at 599€ (or 770 USD) (Italy).. so yeah well worth it
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yup it is..thought it was wrong but when you have htc sales reps telling you that you can preorder it there, should be true enough..surprisingly the 8s price wasnt revealed but they did suggest we leave our mobile nos for a price update on it.
If it had more mem or an sd slot the 920 could do one at that pricbut alas its only 16gb I cant tell you how much that upsets me I really wanted this phone. I wander if its worth waiting and seeing if you can open it up like older windows phones but I suspect its onboard.
Directly doing a currency conversion historically has almost never yielded you the actual retail prices (just the fact that regularly a phone has the same Dollar and Euro price is indicative of this).
StevieBallz said:
Directly doing a currency conversion historically has almost never yielded you the actual retail prices (just the fact that regularly a phone has the same Dollar and Euro price is indicative of this).
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yup it hasnt but its indicative of approximately how much the product could be bought for(unlocked) in most places..presently most phones cost almost the same in India and the middle east if you dont factor in the dealer discounts....
mcosmin222 said:
550$ is quite a lot. You are better off getting Lumia 820 instead of this.
Anyway, I expect this to go down after the official release.
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820 over the 8X?
what?!?!?!
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820 over the 8X?
what?!?!?!
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what are you whatting at?
the only advantage the 8x has is its beats audio.
mcosmin222 said:
what are you whatting at?
the only advantage the 8x has is its beats audio.
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you do know that the 8x is the current high end phone from HTC while the 820 is the mid end phone from nokia???
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you do know that the 8x is the current high end phone from HTC while the 820 is the mid end phone from nokia???
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it is high end because it is defined by HTC as high-end.
I for one, like to take a look at specs instead of just using a predefined opinion.
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it is high end because it is defined by HTC as high-end.
I for one, like to take a look at specs instead of just using a predefined opinion.
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i would say its higher end when compared to the lumia 820..for example the rear 8.0 mp camera is better than the one in the 820, plus its got an image chip which i am sure will beat the lumia 920 in terms of operation speed..the fcc also sports a higher resolution than the one in the 820..for sound, there's an amp for better sound quality..and in terms of display, the 8x is better in pixel density and resolution...
now if you compare it to the 920, il agree the 920 trumps it in most features..i feel that lumia 920 >htc 8x >lumia 820
nutnithin said:
i would say its higher end when compared to the lumia 820..for example the rear 8.0 mp camera is better than the one in the 820, plus its got an image chip which i am sure will beat the lumia 920 in terms of operation speed..the fcc also sports a higher resolution than the one in the 820..for sound, there's an amp for better sound quality..and in terms of display, the 8x is better in pixel density and resolution...
now if you compare it to the 920, il agree the 920 trumps it in most features..i feel that lumia 920 >htc 8x >lumia 820
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So what? Lumia 820 beats the HTC in other domains, like wirelress charging, design, storage space.
The two of them are pretty close together, which is why it is fair to compare the 820 with the 8x.
As i already said, the only real advantage the 8x has over 820 is the audio quality.
Others are more or less neglect-able, and some of them are double edged swords (like your pixel destiny, will increase the amount of RAM applications will eat compared to lumia 820)
mcosmin222 said:
So what? Lumia 820 beats the HTC in other domains, like wirelress charging, design, storage space.
The two of them are pretty close together, which is why it is fair to compare the 820 with the 8x.
As i already said, the only real advantage the 8x has over 820 is the audio quality.
Others are more or less neglect-able, and some of them are double edged swords (like your pixel destiny, will increase the amount of RAM applications will eat compared to lumia 820)
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wireless charging is an add on cover for the 820, while design is a personnel choice..i know alot of people who like the htc 8 series more than the lumias, storage space i agree non upgradeable is kinda not what i expected but then we should be calling the lumia 920 a fail too ...the pixel density is a major differentiator for a lot of people so is the resoultion(from what i heard the 820 display is not 720p) which can deter alot of people.
anyways all this boils down to personal choice..if i were to select between the 8x and the 820, i would go for the 8x...but if you throw in the 920, then you know my ans : 920
Lumia 820 has one serious minus point over 8X - only 800x480 resolution vs 1280x720 which is quite a staggering difference. Rest features are more or less matched with Lumia 820 triumphing heavily on exclusive apps.
Yes 8X has better camera but there's simply no beating Lumia camera settings and extras. With some setting tweaking, Lumia 820 stands a chance to beat 8X's camera. And hence, mcosmin222 is quite sensible for comparing 820 vs 8X.

Which smartphone will you choose for a gift, guy

Just reading interesting articles from here : http://360dmobile.com/holiday-smartphone-gift-guide/. They recommends some good phones : nexus 4, lumia 920, HTC 8x. And what is your most desired phone, for me I love to buy HTC8x but also want the super great camera of lumia 920
Personally, looking at them side by side. The 920 is the better phone. Better display, better camera, better design (a little bigger but a well built phone) and Nokia has a lot better apps in the marketplace than HTC does...
Just wondering, did you Cross post this even in the other threads or are you just flaming?

Z1 vs 1520 - GSMarena Champions League!

http://blog.gsmarena.com/smartphone-champions-league-quarterfinals/
GSMarena is having a smartphone Champions League, it beat the Z to reach the quarter finals. Voting ends on Monday. Let's vote for our beloved smartphone. The 1520 earns incredible amounts of votes.
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1020 vs galaxy S3 (this years flasgship vs last years that too on a different OS) :silly:
HTC one vs nokia 520 (flagship vs entry model ):silly:
Couldnt they have a best-of in 3 categories, entry, mid range & flagship ?
GO Z1!
I really didn't expect the 1520 to be this popular
I was quite suprised to see 3 Nokias this late in the competition.
lets have a little summary so its easier to follow..
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Wow there are ALOT of devoted followers of Nokia.
Apart from in films (and on television programmes) I don't really see any Windows handsets
In India and Pakistan almost everyone goes gaga over Nokia or MediaTek devices.
30% of WP phones sold includes just the. 520,521. 9 out of 40 classmates have it and my mother owns one.
The 1520 will probably beat the Z1 in this popularity contest. But hey, who cares, I love my Z1 nonetheless ^_^
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Lumia 1520 wins..................it's incredible
you can vote Z1
Lot of big names are down already(Note 3, Iphone 5S, Galaxy S4, etc)
Good to see the Z1 its still there
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Where's blackberry? :laugh:
What a load of nonsense, the order of all these devices looks pretty rigged to me, to allow certain phones to definitely make it through
this crap doesn't make any sense tbh... why would the Xperia Z (flagship) fight against L (midrange) on the first round or why would the Galaxy S3 4.7 inch fight against galaxy mega 6.3 inch? all not on the same class and why no nokia phone fought against it self, and why fight LG G2 and HTC one on the first round lol
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nokia 520 vs nexus 4 and nokia won? horse crap...
BreakShadow said:
In India and Pakistan almost everyone goes gaga over Nokia or MediaTek devices.
30% of WP phones sold includes just the. 520,521. 9 out of 40 classmates have it and my mother owns one.
The 1520 will probably beat the Z1 in this popularity contest. But hey, who cares, I love my Z1 nonetheless ^_^
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Because the nokia 520 - 720 hardware wise beat android at the price point. They all have proper GPS instead of A-GPS. other than the 720 the others have dual band wifi. A Rs.10k device with dual band wifi (!)
The biggest downside is WP8 app availability, flaky whatsapp and no centralised notifications.
Now the moto g has come out and is a serious contender in the low end stakes. Will have to see at what price its offered.
I don't know how the 1520 scored so high. Ability to save RAW.
Maybe its the battery life. But sizewise its more unwieldy. Great battery comes at a portability premium.
I've yet to to see it in the shops here.
I also find the scores between Z & Z1 curious. I did not think Z1 is compelling enough to upgrade for a Z owner. There is only 6 months between these devices. people balk at upgrading even a year later. eg. S3 owners not interested in going with S4 or Note 2 to Note 3. The biggest improvement with Z1 over Z is video.
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What a load of nonsense, the order of all these devices looks pretty rigged to me, to allow certain phones to definitely make it through
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There is no good way to do this. You would expect flagships to make it to the second round and not get paired with strong competition so early on like the G2 & note 3 were. I don't know how gsmarena chose the starting matches. Usually they pull names out of a hat. Its a good laugh.
Looks like htc one vs 1020 in the final.
So it's ended up the Nexus 5 vs Lumia 1020 in 1st SF and Lumia 520 vs 1520 :silly:
I suppose that Sony releasing the Z1 was due to the fact the Xperia Z was a bit behind the curve spec wise once the HTC One and S4 were looming.
The Z1 was perfectly timed for me, as the contract on my One X ended in October this year and I fancied a change of manufacturer
I agree that some of those match ups were very silly indeed
I'm pretty sure it'd be random match ups to start the fight..
Like someone said, maybe they pulled names out of a hat.
That's the only way to keep it fair..
It's the way the cookie crumbles ;p
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Well done Nokia employees, you managed to get a winner here.
HTC one losing to 520
Ive been testing a lumia 1520 all weekend and have decided not to keep it.
My main reason being the camera, I timed the z1 camera load time against The 1520, and the 1520 was nearly 2 seconds slower to load the camera and take a pic, for a replacement point and shoot this is too slow to warrant me replacing my z1. If the picture quality had been significantly better, it might have swayed me, but manual mode shots were broadly similar.
The screen on the Lumia was also better, but I think I'll Wait and see what the 1020 and z1 successors will bring.
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jimsey said:
Ive been testing a lumia 1520 all weekend and have decided not to keep it.
My main reason being the camera, I timed the z1 camera load time against The 1520, and the 1520 was nearly 2 seconds slower to load the camera and take a pic, for a replacement point and shoot this is too slow to warrant me replacing my z1. If the picture quality had been significantly better, it might have swayed me, but manual mode shots were broadly similar.
The screen on the Lumia was also better, but I think I'll Wait and see what the 1020 and z1 successors will bring.
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Z1 has better video in low light.
From my experience a lot of Nokia Lumia users have an inferiority complex against their Android/Apple counterparts. They're the most aggressive at insulting other phones which are not WP8 because they feel 'special' using an OS that is thought of as being inferior to iOS and Android. So when it comes to competitions like this where it's WP8 vs Android or Lumia vs Android the fanboys come out in full force and smother the competition and then post comments on how the other phones are sh*t and how WP8 has the most potential. Just look at the comments in the GSMArena page. The Z1 sadly didn't stand a chance.
I'm not saying that every WP8 user's like this, I'm sure those fanboys are in the minority, but I know a lot of people with the 1520 and 1020 and they always try to put down my Z1 even if I didn't say anything, as if they're justifying why they bought the Lumia over my Z1. That's just been my experience though.
Z1 got whitewashed by 20000 points. One got beat neck to neck by 520. Damn....
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OnePlus 5 or OnePlus 5T

Who here prefer buying a OP 5 now and save a few bucks instead of a 5T? And why?
Am I the only one who prefers the 16:9 screen ratio of the OP5?
I bought OP5 on the same day it launched and now am regretting it. Had they released 5T next year or atleast at a higher price tag than OP5 would be fair. Now we OP5 users are desparate to upgrade to OP5T. Atleast the company should've come up with buy back scheme for OP5 users to upgrade to 5T hassle free.
Atleast my OP5 is 5 months old. But what for those who bought it a couple of days or weeks before OP5T release. This is very disappointing by the Team. They ripped off 5 with 5T just like they ripped off 3 with 3T.
Go for oneplus 5T, it's much better deal
Honestly, with not much having changed in regards of CPU, RAM and other performance factors, I'm not feeling the upgrade hype at all, especially since the fingerprint sensor of OP5t is on the back and the camera has not been considerably improved.
So I'm actually preferring my OP5, and think 5.5" is already almost too big for my hands. I hope by the time an actually upgraded Oneplus comes around they stick to 5" or 5.5" rather than a 6" formfactor.
It'd be nice to have a real camera upgrade that actually takes clearer photos like they advertise. The OP5 zoom is more useful than downsampled images.
As far as I'm aware you can't buy the 5 no more. It's discontinued on their site.
For me the 5 is a beast, if I didn't have it then I'd buy the 5T, I believe you'll get slightly less stamina on the 5T Vs the 5 due to the battery not being too dissimilar and the screen being larger and a higher resolution, can't see the paltry increase making up the difference there.
But then again that's just my opinion based on specs and past experience with higher resolution screens.
Maybe I'm going blind lol I can't really tell the difference :silly:
The 5T isn't a good enough upgrade for me to warrant a purchase. I'll just wait for the OnePlus 6.
Revenant Ghost said:
The 5T isn't a good enough upgrade for me to warrant a purchase. I'll just wait for the OnePlus 6.
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Same here!
The op5/op5t camera isn't even an upgrade regarding the camera if you come from op3. In fact i think pics are worse
Im taking about rear camera, selfie camera is a bit better.
I looked for a mint condition used OP5 and bought it a week ago for 70% of OP5T price so I don't regret anything
No reason to switch from 5 to 5T
For me there is absolutely no reason to switch from 5 to 5T.
They are apart from the camera (possibly a downgrade) and a slightly larger screen the same phone. (so same same but different)
I'm annoyed that OP is artificially limiting the 5 regarding face unlock. (So it seems that it is currently just a sales point)

OnePlus 8 Pro?

I currently have a Pixel 2XL and am starting to itch for an upgrade. I was excited for the Pixel 4XL but I can't justify the price for what you get. Then the OnePlus 7 Pro caught my eye and I'm considering buying that with the Black Friday deal.
Do you guys think it would be worth waiting for the OnePlus 8 Pro (April-May 2020) or should I just pull the trigger on the 7 Pro with it's current discount?
I'd go for the OP7Pro if the black friday discounts are substantial. selling the OP7Pro in future will not suffer much loses if you wish to change phones in future.
Get the 7Pro for the win! Then trade up to the 8 later...
Getting the OnePlus 7Pro was the largest jump in phones as far as tech/display and just all around happiness with the device(previously used the LG G7/Mi Mix 3). Easily money well spent and to be honest, if i completely bricked this one i would try to buy another one to replace it.
Well I heard the 8 is gonna have a hole punch. So if you want the gorgeous display get the 7pro
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Well I heard the 8 is gonna have a hole punch. So if you want the gorgeous display get the 7pro
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HOLE PUNCH?!?!???! BLEGGHH. I cant go from a full, un-interrupted display to a silly looking punch hole in my screen. I really loved the look on the Mi Mix 3 and i love the look on the 7Pro( i never use front facing camera's anyway)
I have both the 2xl and OP7 pro and love both. 2xl camera still runs laps around 7 pro but 7 pro is in another league in every other measurable.
mookiexl said:
I have both the 2xl and OP7 pro and love both. 2xl camera still runs laps around 7 pro but 7 pro is in another league in every other measurable.
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That is disappointing to hear. I love the camera on my Pixel 2XL and feel it might be the only thing to make me return the OnePlus 7 Pro when I get it.
In my personal opinion I feel that camera quality is very subjective. Let's face it, we are talking about looking at the majority of our pictures on a 5 or 6 inch screen that has more resolution than most TV's! The only way you can tell if one camera is better than another is to hold them side-by-side while looking at the exact same photo....who does this? The camera on the 7 Pro is great...it takes pictures...in color....on a fairly large high resolution screen. To make our choice for a "phone" (communication device) based on how accurate the pictures might be (which again is subjective) is not the way to do things. There are too many other things that are necessary for one of these compact computers to work properly that I feel that the camera is the last, and the least important. If the battery runs out...no pictures...if you cannot maintain a good network signal, then you basically have an overpriced camera. It's just gotten way out of normal reasoning to worry so much about the camera on a smart phone. YMMV
michaelearth said:
That is disappointing to hear. I love the camera on my Pixel 2XL and feel it might be the only thing to make me return the OnePlus 7 Pro when I get it.
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There is a ported gcam app for OP7 that closes the quality gap a bit but you have to be rooted to use the Telephoto, and Wide lenses with it. The upgrade is still worth.
I wish the front cam cutout were in the middle and not on the left side like how it's shown in the leaks @ 8 Pro.
OnePlus 8
OnePlus continues to attract attention until the official announcement of the OnePlus 8 phones, and once again new official images emerge showing the colors of the OnePlus 8 Pro.
This year, OnePlus introduces an exclusive blue color for OnePlus 8 Pro, or is known as Ultramarine Blue, on the other hand, OnePlus OnePlus 8 Pro is presented in green or Glacial Green hue, which is also offered for OnePlus 8 flagship edition.
Oneplus OnePlus 8 Pro and OnePlus 8 are slated to be offered in Onyx black, and OnePlus 8 Pro does not come in blue like the Interstellar Glow model presented in OnePlus 8.
Roland Quandt also highlighted new leaks on the OnePlus 8 Pro screen that appears curved design on both sides, while the screen appears flat in the main version of OnePlus 8.
OnePlus 8 Pro also comes with a 6.78-inch AMOLED display, with a refresh rate of 120 Hz, and the screen brightness ratio reaches 1,300 nits.
Previous leaks confirmed that OnePlus 8 Pro has 48-megapixel sensors, with the main Sony IMX689 sensor 1 / 1.43 and 1.12µm pixels, while the IMX586 sensor comes with wide viewing angles, with an 8-megapixel zoom sensor, and it supports up to 3 times optical zoom , While the last 5MP sensor comes to collect more accurate color detail.
It is reported that OnePlus company recently confirmed that the OnePlus 8 Pro phone was launched with a Snapdragon 865 processor, and also reviewed the efficiency of the refresh rate of 120 Hz in the screen, the phone also comes with LPDDR5 standards in random memory, and UFS 3.0 standards in storage capacity, as the phones support 5G networks .
Current Pixel 2 user - I'm going to ride out the last year of Google support and jump ship next year. Will be interesting to see the advancements going to the 5nm SD875, which I assume will be on most of 2021 flagships!

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