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nothing worse than a promising device , the moto x has a brilliant screen , I like how it feels , the size is just too small and the boot loader issue is a game breaker , I tried the chinaman , no luck and I dont blame Motorola , i dont even have att , but they wont unlock the bl~
Great devs in here no less , this was first (and last Motorola device) , was usually sticking with Samsung , but I dont like the idea of the Dev phones or the gpe phones ,so I bought a OnePlus One ! The OPO rocks in every category and I am not a slave the carriers and there bs (i have straight talk anyway) , but unlocked is the only way to go!!!
Ill be cleaning out my moto x and [probably selling on craigslist )
K bye?
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nothing worse than a promising device , the moto x has a brilliant screen , I like how it feels , the size is just too small and the boot loader issue is a game breaker , I tried the chinaman , no luck and I dont blame Motorola , i dont even have att , but they wont unlock the bl~
Great devs in here no less , this was first (and last Motorola device) , was usually sticking with Samsung , but I dont like the idea of the Dev phones or the gpe phones ,so I bought a OnePlus One ! The OPO rocks in every category and I am not a slave the carriers and there bs (i have straight talk anyway) , but unlocked is the only way to go!!!
Ill be cleaning out my moto x and [probably selling on craigslist )
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Got that Griffin dock? If so i will buy it
Cya! I bought a Droid Maxx after playing around with the wife's Moto X. I was looking at everything from LG G3 to iPhone 6 but none had Active Display and Touchless Control. Her Moto X was unlocked using Sunshine, mine is still locked but I'm running 4.4 so I can unlock anytime I want. For me, functionality trumps benchmarks. The Moto X's battery life is impressive, she doesn't charge her phone for days at a time. I'm a much heavier user and my Maxx has plenty of juice left at the end of the day. Motorola has impressed me a lot under the ownership of Google. The Assist software is also very cool. The new Moto X and Maxx/ Turbo looks great but I need an unlocked boot loader and I don't know when that will happen on the new machines. Hence, I scratched the new Moto X off my shopping list. Also read that the battery life is laughable, even though it is still decent when strictly on LTE and is actually a little better than the 2013 Moto X.
Enjoy your new phone. However, imagine if everyone made a thread like this after they changed phones? It would be swamped with these threads burying useful information.
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Ive been watching the N6 for awhile and loved everything about it but its oversized screen. The turbo is great and fixes all the nexus 6's issues hardware wise, but not software wise. I'm used to Verizon's fetish about going to great lengths to lock phones, the VZW G2 was a pain but a great phone, and my current One M8, vzw locked out only the vzw M8s, so you had to superCID. I've heard stories about droids being especially bulletproof to root. How true are these rumors? And especially with the upcoming L release, which will make root incredibly hard, will this device ever get root? Because root is a must for me.
Relax, root will come. The phone's only been on sale for 4.5 hours. Devs can't root it if they don't got it.
That being said, IF a method comes out for unlocking the bootloader, DO SO IMMEDIATELY. Don't be one of those guys who's always like "oh there's a bootloader unlock method? People have confirmed it works? I'm gonna wait and take this update patch. Damn, now I can't unlock it. Will someone work on this?" Lord how I hate those people with a passion.
So...today I sent a mail to LG Dev seeing one other person here, and this is what they replied. I have posted the screenshot. WTF??? What do they mean by previous devices??? This device isn't even 3 months old Goddamn... very mad with LG. Regrets to leave HTC. And BTW where is written which one is newer & which one is older? How are we supposed to know that?? This is cheating....
Not cheating friend. They never promised to unlock your phone when you bought it. Believe me, I know it sucks...I'm right there with you waiting for an unlock myself. This doesn't surprise me one bit, honestly. I'm willing to bet that none of the LG phones sold by carriers will be unlocked by LG in the future either.
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So...today I sent a mail to LG Dev seeing one other person here, and this is what they replied. I have posted the screenshot. WTF??? What do they mean by previous devices??? This device isn't even 3 months old Goddamn... very mad with LG. Regrets to leave HTC. And BTW where is written which one is newer & which one is older? How are we supposed to know that?? This is cheating....
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Yea I've already told everyone this 3 weeks ago.
I need to decide if I want to buy the G4 in exactly a month from now.
If it won't be unlocked until then, I would sadly wait for the Note 5.
Well that'll pretty much cement my decision to go back to HTC. I don't hate this phone, honestly. It's pretty good and I've had no real issues with it. But (and I'm not interested in arguing WHY I want BL unlock and root. I just do. It's my phone) if there isn't mfg support for the unlock, screw 'em.
Came to the G4 because the M9 camera sucked. I suspect HTC will fix that in their next release at which point I'll go back to a phone that I can unlock and root within 15 minutes of opening the box. Nothing against the G4 itself. It's a solid phone. But I won't be locked down, and while I respect the devs working on this and the work they do, I don't have the patience to wait long term for each LG phone I get. Thought I'd maybe move away from HTC entirely, but...guess not. Oh well.
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Well that'll pretty much cement my decision to go back to HTC. I don't hate this phone, honestly. It's pretty good and I've had no real issues with it. But (and I'm not interested in arguing WHY I want BL unlock and root. I just do. It's my phone) if there isn't mfg support for the unlock, screw 'em.
Came to the G4 because the M9 camera sucked. I suspect HTC will fix that in their next release at which point I'll go back to a phone that I can unlock and root within 15 minutes of opening the box. Nothing against the G4 itself. It's a solid phone. But I won't be locked down, and while I respect the devs working on this and the work they do, I don't have the patience to wait long term for each LG phone I get. Thought I'd maybe move away from HTC entirely, but...guess not. Oh well.
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I ALMOST got the M9...just couldn't get past the camera deficiency it has. It's not even a good camera by 2014 standards...and doesn't come close to the best of 2015. I'm willing to even say it isn't as good as the M8's (and possibly even M8. Problem with it is that this year's camera lacks both OIS (which M7 had) and the second camera for depth or imaging chip (which M8 had), leaving it with just a huge MP count and no hardware help to assist the sensor. Sure, software can do some adjustment, but it'll never be like having the actual proper hardware for the job. So while they will likely update the camera...many times, it is still limited by it's unfortunate lack of hardware assistance and isn't likely to ever match any of the other 2015 devices. Best hope from HTC is the "Hero device" they're talking about for this fall.
Either way, I'm gonna stick with LG till next year's flagship round comes out. Sure it sucks to wait for unlock and root, but I'd rather have the top end camera hardware. I use my phone as my primary camera, so I'd rather have bootloader issues than camera deficiency.
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I ALMOST got the M9...just couldn't get past the camera deficiency it has. It's not even a good camera by 2014 standards...and doesn't come close to the best of 2015. I'm willing to even say it isn't as good as the M8's (and possibly even M8. Problem with it is that this year's camera lacks both OIS (which M7 had) and the second camera for depth or imaging chip (which M8 had), leaving it with just a huge MP count and no hardware help to assist the sensor. Sure, software can do some adjustment, but it'll never be like having the actual proper hardware for the job. So while they will likely update the camera...many times, it is still limited by it's unfortunate lack of hardware assistance and isn't likely to ever match any of the other 2015 devices. Best hope from HTC is the "Hero device" they're talking about for this fall.
Either way, I'm gonna stick with LG till next year's flagship round comes out. Sure it sucks to wait for unlock and root, but I'd rather have the top end camera hardware. I use my phone as my primary camera, so I'd rather have bootloader issues than camera deficiency.
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Same here, my phone is my primary camera, especially for vacations. And for the record my wife still has her m8 and my son the m7 and you're correct, BOTH of them take better pictures than the M9 does. We'll see about that hero device. I'm up for another JUMP upgrade in November (I'm grandfathered on the twice a year upgrade plan) so it's possible I could jump ship around then. Just have to see. Absolute worst case I pay this thing off and buy something outright. Dunno yet.
Back on topic though (sorry 'bout that ), my main issue is one of patience. It's probably my fatal flaw...as I said I KNOW it takes time to find and package (for money or free) a stable root exploit. Even longer to find a bootloader unlock exploit usually. This isn't the devs fault by any stretch. I'm just used to being able to quickly unlock and root my device...it's been a REAL long time since I've had to wait for root and finding that LG isn't planning to support an unlock is majorly disappointing to me.
I don't know why anyone would buy a carrier phone, and expect a factory unlock. That's what we have XDA for. Anyway, since we know the phone can be rooted, I'm hopeful that we will see a bootloader unlock, or work around as well. The phone hasn't been out that long, so you just have to have a little patience.
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I don't know why anyone would buy a carrier phone, and expect a factory unlock. That's what we have XDA for. Anyway, since we know the phone can be rooted, I'm hopeful that we will see a bootloader unlock, or work around as well. The phone hasn't been out that long, so you just have to have a little patience.
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'Expect' no. 'Hope' yes. Plus remember I'm coming from HTC where they're unlockable out of the box. Didn't occur to me that LG would flatly refuse to do it. My own fault, but what can you do?
Don't blame LG but your stupid USA cell providers. Which pay a lot of money to let you enjoy their spam.
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Don't blame LG but your stupid USA cell providers. Which pay a lot of money to let you enjoy their spam.
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Well typically I'd agree with you, however this one's LG's decision. TMO doesn't have any issues with unlocked bootloaders. If it was Verizon or AT&T I might agree with you.
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'Expect' no. 'Hope' yes. Plus remember I'm coming from HTC where they're unlockable out of the box. Didn't occur to me that LG would flatly refuse to do it. My own fault, but what can you do?
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Ugh, HTC. I agree with you about their cameras. I started out with the M8 last year, but that camera sucked hard. My wife already had the G3, and when I saw that the devs were confident about rooting/unlocking, I got rid of the M8, bought a G3, and rode it out until it came to fruition.
Is there anyone here who work with LG? I need them to 'deliver' a message..
Here's the thing.. I started with LG G3.. it was a great device and I really love it.. specially the camera.. very nice quality.. and I absolutely loove the root on this thing.. I can switch ROM that I like and add other customization with root ability of course (xposed, adblock, etc..)
And there's the new LG G4.. basicaly an upgrade to LG G3 wich I found very significant upgrade from previous device, LG G3.. without hesitation I upgrade it right away (seeing my lovely expericence with LG G3 before).. But here's the thing.. altough is a wonderful device, I'm very.. very.. very.. very dissapointed they not releasing the root for my device (H818P).. If I known this sooner, I will NOT buy LG G4 and stick to my LG G3..
Soo my 'message' to LG is very clear.. release the unlock, or this is my LAST experience with their phone.. PERIOD.. I heard they are now preparing the LG G4 Pro next year.. well, if they still not releasing the unlock for LG G4, they can forget about it.. well at least from me.. I'm soo done with LG
Think you all have to be patient. There will be a developer who will get it unlocked.
At least I guess. Has there ever been a phone not unlocked?
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Think you all have to be patient. There will be a developer who will get it unlocked.
At least I guess. Has there ever been a phone not unlocked?
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Yep. Motorola had a couple, and I believe the G2 (I could be wrong on that one though).
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Same here, my phone is my primary camera, especially for vacations. And for the record my wife still has her m8 and my son the m7 and you're correct, BOTH of them take better pictures than the M9 does. We'll see about that hero device. I'm up for another JUMP upgrade in November (I'm grandfathered on the twice a year upgrade plan) so it's possible I could jump ship around then. Just have to see. Absolute worst case I pay this thing off and buy something outright. Dunno yet.
Back on topic though (sorry 'bout that ), my main issue is one of patience. It's probably my fatal flaw...as I said I KNOW it takes time to find and package (for money or free) a stable root exploit. Even longer to find a bootloader unlock exploit usually. This isn't the devs fault by any stretch. I'm just used to being able to quickly unlock and root my device...it's been a REAL long time since I've had to wait for root and finding that LG isn't planning to support an unlock is majorly disappointing to me.
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I had both, so I was willing to stake my bet that both took better pics (though admittedly I've never had the M9).
I'm right there with ya on waiting sucks.....probably why I've never bought a device this early in it's "life". I usually get it after it's been out for a few months and has at least root.. I was in the unfortunate situation of my Note 4 becoming so unstable on 5.0 that it was hardly functional....would have to reboot 3-5 times a day average. Got the G4 because I couldn't take the idea of having an apple-looking device in my hand LOL
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Yep. Motorola had a couple, and I believe the G2 (I could be wrong on that one though).
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Hopefully it's not the case. Normally I was already on a custom rom.
No unlocked bootloader means less development on custom roms
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Soo my 'message' to LG is very clear.. release the unlock, or this is my LAST experience with their phone.. PERIOD.. I heard they are now preparing the LG G4 Pro next year.. well, if they still not releasing the unlock for LG G4, they can forget about it.. well at least from me.. I'm soo done with LG
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I'm not saying they don't care about you, but lets face it...they don't care about you. If you don't buy another LG, that's what....1 device per year? Maybe two. Consider this...we have what appears to a few hundred users on the G4 thread. We're probably not 1% of the total sales of the G4....and probably never will be. LG is going to look at "the masses" (aka people who don't xda, have no idea what root is, and wouldn't know what to do with unlock), which is like 99% of the users. They'd rather focus on the next update to the G4 or the next model they release, as if they can make it better than Apple or Samsung's next iteration of the smartphone, they can gain thousands of unit sales. Not to mention, this more than likely is a CARRIER driven situation than an LG driven one. Carriers don't really want us being able to remove their ads and other bloat....they worked hard to fatten our phones up!
I think it's a crazy situation that a carrier can decide that YOUR payed device is locked because of advertising bloatware.
Glad to live in a country with freedoms.
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I had both, so I was willing to stake my bet that both took better pics (though admittedly I've never had the M9).
I'm right there with ya on waiting sucks.....probably why I've never bought a device this early in it's "life". I usually get it after it's been out for a few months and has at least root.. I was in the unfortunate situation of my Note 4 becoming so unstable on 5.0 that it was hardly functional....would have to reboot 3-5 times a day average. Got the G4 because I couldn't take the idea of having an apple-looking device in my hand LOL
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Whereas I'm always 'get me that damned device the second it's available!!! NAO!!!!
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I think it's a crazy situation that a carrier can decide that YOUR payed device is locked because of advertising bloatware.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn LG-H815 met Tapatalk
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It's not because of carrier bloatware. It's largely because of warranty and support. 98% of the people out there aren't going to unlock the phone even if it's able to unlock.Frankly the carriers don't really care about those of us who want to unlock it...we're not a big enough amount of their revenue to matter. Which is why the carriers (well Sprint and TMO anyhow) will usually let you unlock. Like I said, this one isn't because of the carriers (aside from AT&T and Verizon probably). This is about LG not wanting to provide the unlock.
LG G5 launch date confirmed for February 21. It may feature a unique and interesting modular battery design.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with locked bootloader and MM fully securised.........for sure !!!!! :laugh:
and no possibility to unlock it for some looooooong time !!!!!! maybe NEVER ! :laugh:
no development are possible ! nothing !!!!! ........completely useless for XDA !!! this forum don't have to spend energy to create a section ..........pffffff !!!!!!!!
And with bad reputation of LG G4 with it's fragile hardware ,with all these bootloop and other .......... i think that too many people will change for others manufacturers ......
Yes and they supposedly move the buttons on the side.....
This is one good reason to jump in another OEM's wagon. For me back volume rocker was the first reason that pushed me to buy G2. And i was kinda disappointed with G4 when i got the hardware problems after 1 month.
Got to consider my next buy.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with locked bootloader and MM fully securised.........for sure !!!!! :laugh:
and no possibility to unlock it for some looooooong time !!!!!! maybe NEVER ! :laugh:
no development are possible ! nothing !!!!! ........completely useless for XDA !!! this forum don't have to spend energy to create a section ..........pffffff !!!!!!!!
And with bad reputation of LG G4 with it's fragile hardware ,with all these bootloop and other .......... i think that too many people will change for others manufacturers ......
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U are right , bootloader will lose their minority buyer but i think they don't give the sh*t either ...
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U are right , bootloader will lose their minority buyer but i think they don't give the sh*t either ...
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yes it's sure ..... users like ours are really a "minority" ...but there are much more users who "fiddle" their phone (who search for root,xposed,tweaks,customs.....) than we think .
and this future G5 will be the same as an Apple iphone and others Android manufacturers who will eventualy follow this full securities and locks .
The reason I bought the G4 was that I assumed it would be able to root, bootloader unlock and get a custom recovery for Custom Roms. Unfortunately I have the Verizon VS986 variant which only allows root. LG has been pretty stable and fast, maybe not as fast as the Motorola X Pure Edition which has the same specs but overall I am satisfied.
My contract extension isn't until 2017 so I'm pretty much stuck with the phone until then. I have alot of time to monitor and see who really is looking out for people like us that want full control of the phone and the Rom that is within the device.
..Sent from an XDA modified LG G4 on Verizon..
There's no point in buying a phone, if it's not possible to root and mod it. Period
s7 has rumours of a SD card if so back to sammy for me, root don't worry me my banking and a few other apps I need will not run on rooted device.
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Not bad. But seeing how the G4 is as simple as a phone can get and had quite a bit of issues. I can easily see the G5 being filled with even more with a design like that. Stacking the locked bootloader situation and security on top, probably a no go for me.
Sony is really looking like a good option for the future seeing how they're very developer friendly and provide some nice options for the type of phone you'll want. (Premium, compact, that other third one)
Hopefully HTC this year will make us a surprise for the flagship phone then I will jump back to HTC .
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Hopefully HTC this year will make us a surprise for the flagship phone then I will jump back to HTC .
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*100 Out of all the manufacturers I think HTC has had the right idea for a couple years. They just can't seem to get the camera right for some odd reason. But if the camera is only marginally better than the M9 there's no question where I'll be headed. G4 dev support is almost non existent and if I can't tinker than its no use to me.
An HTC with a very good camera, why not 12mpx Ultrapixels..., or a Sony with an Amoled screen and finally a good camera which can shoot in Raw. I like my G4, but screen touch problem is not professional at all and I don't have time to send it and get it back 20 days later... Not serious at all about what LG did. Imagine Apple with this kind of problem... And the G4 don't have fingerprint sensor, a big shame, but like I said, it's still a good phone.
Well, then the show is open for some devices with good dev-support. I'm ready to hear, because neither the new Nexus 6P nor Nexus 5X have that amount of development. And those are phones without any problem.
At the moment, there isn't any new "beloved by developers" phone, is it?
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Well, then the show is open for some devices with good dev-support. I'm ready to hear, because neither the new Nexus 6P nor Nexus 5X have that amount of development. And those are phones without any problem.
At the moment, there isn't any new "beloved by developers" phone, is it?
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Umm let's head over to the S6, Note 5, even the dreaded M9 has way more dev support. And I'm pretty sure the S7, Note 6 and M10 will have more dev support. There is no one "beloved by developers" phone but it seems like we have a good candidate for most "hated by developers" phone. The G4 gets my vote.
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*100 Out of all the manufacturers I think HTC has had the right idea for a couple years. They just can't seem to get the camera right for some odd reason. But if the camera is only marginally better than the M9 there's no question where I'll be headed. G4 dev support is almost non existent and if I can't tinker than its no use to me.
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HTC has amazing devices but has vastly ignored the camera which is a shame. The M9 is a beast and the only reason that made me not buy the phone was the lackluster camera. I just wish there was a way to confirm root, bootloader unlock and Rom compatibility at the time of a phone release but it's a gamble ultimately.
We will all see in a few weeks at Mobile World Congress 2016 Barcelona.
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I'm entitled to a new phone July 2017, so roughly 1,5 years to watch the scene. The G4 has amazing potential, I kinda believe what we encounter is mostly software related issues. LG, still, is a very professional company and I doubt they'd pick suppliers who don't double check their hardware. But: After that, LG is dead. I don't understand why you'd wanna lock out developers. I mean, half the stuff of today's Android was made up by developers and hands down, there is some and I doubt it's only a small minority, who don't wanna wait forever till they receive a bloated update or even worse who have to hope and pray that their device will be supplied with updates in the future.
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do you have a source for locked bootloader or is this only your assumption?
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do you have a source for locked bootloader or is this only your assumption?
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It's sure at 99.9% that the LG politic about security will not changed at all... it's getting worse ...
Phones are more and more highly encrypted,blocked securised ........because of very bad terribles hackers who want to steal all android users (datas...) ,that's known ...
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It's sure at 99.9% that the LG politic about security will not changed at all... it's getting worse ...
Phones are more and more highly encrypted,blocked securised ........because of very bad terribles hackers who want to steal all android users (datas...) ,that's known ...
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EU H815 is unlockable. if G5 EU version is also unlockable i`m more then happy.
locked down provider phones on us market is another story but this is not a LG (only) problem. rate with your provider decision and / or buy free phones on the market!
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EU H815 is unlockable. if G5 EU version is also unlockable i`m more then happy.
locked down provider phones on us market is another story but this is not a LG (only) problem. rate with your provider decision and / or buy free phones on the market!
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yes ... all manufacturers will follow in this way ......
and "geeks" like ours will have less and less choice of phone ( otherwise we are forced to conform and and sacrifice by buying a phone like others standard users, never without root ,customs ,xposed ... but just the stock firmware )
The only way will be to buy a old second hand phone with developments........or pray that NEXUS will continue to be easy to hack and unlock .
the begining of the end ??? wait and see ...
so ive been reading moto will not be updating the e4 or the 4 plus to oreo. is this true? if so ill be getting another device, theres no excuses for this. i swear ever since levono bought them they have gone downhill. looks like no more moto devices for me. even a 4 year old iphone still gets updates.
Unfortunately the days of Google's Motorola is over.
As far as I'm concerned, they have completely abandoned the Boost Mobile variant. It's November and we're still on the May security patch... dafuq. But that's Android, no real rules. OEMs do as they like without any concern for their users. You kinda roll the dice when you buy Android phones. I have a 2 year old LG Stylo 2 that was patched in September with the September/Blueborne patch.
And if you're like me, and are concerned about support, security and longevity, buy an iPhone, I did (iPhone 6s Plus) and have not looked back. I buy Android phones to play with, nothing more.
id get a 6s but they are too expensive for the age. I dont need monthly patches but they could of at least gave 1 major update. im not in a finacial position to buy a high end device. looking into a nokia 6 or honor 6x. even those will get oreo. this will be my last moto device.
Boost was pushing these bad boys out for $39 for a while. So I didn't expect any updates. Grabbed the virgin mobile one for my wife, she loves it.
For security patches, there are a bunch of ROMs being built by amarc78. But no CDMA support yet (Sprint, boost, virgin) but gsm is a gold mine of up to date ROMs.
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Boost was pushing these bad boys out for $39 for a while. So I didn't expect any updates. Grabbed the virgin mobile one for my wife, she loves it.
For security patches, there are a bunch of ROMs being built by amarc78. But no CDMA support yet (Sprint, boost, virgin) but gsm is a gold mine of up to date ROMs.
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the phone is more than capable of running oreo, thats what upsets me. moto has done this too many times in the past. i know i have alot of roms to choose from but it would probably help the devs out to have official 8.0 roms and a kernel to work with.
Someone will make an Oreo ROM for this, its just a matter of time.
In mediatek version there is already one dev working on Oreo ...in a month or two Oreo will come out
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Unfortunately the days of Google's Motorola is over.
As far as I'm concerned, they have completely abandoned the Boost Mobile variant. It's November and we're still on the May security patch... dafuq. But that's Android, no real rules. OEMs do as they like without any concern for their users. You kinda roll the dice when you buy Android phones. I have a 2 year old LG Stylo 2 that was patched in September with the September/Blueborne patch.
And if you're like me, and are concerned about support, security and longevity, buy an iPhone, I did (iPhone 6s Plus) and have not looked back. I buy Android phones to play with, nothing more.
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I just did the same and bought a 6s. at least apple will support it timley for the next year or so. I gave my son the e4. he doesn't care about ROMs or updates
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I just did the same and bought a 6s. at least apple will support it timley for the next year or so. I gave my son the e4. he doesn't care about ROMs or updates
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custom rom is on november security patches ....apple updates but overcharges
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custom rom is on november security patches
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If you use GSM sure, but if you use CDMA you're SOL.
But - IMO I don't believe we should have to resort to custom ROMs to have updated security. No matter the cost of your device.
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apple updates but overcharges
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What does this even mean? Overcharges? iPhones costs no more then "flagship" Android phones.
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If you use GSM sure, but if you use CDMA you're SOL.
But - IMO I don't believe we should have to resort to custom ROMs to have updated security. No matter the cost of your device.
What does this even mean? Overcharges? iPhones costs no more then "flagship" Android phones.
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well you are comparing the support of a budget line android with apple ...if you had a one plus five o samsung s6/7/8 Note etc etc you would have all sorts of roms and support comin at you from all sides
the moto e4 cost like 100$ max bro and that ain't what apple is charging
overcharges perhaps not then but they don't offer any phones at a price point i want to pay for a phone with closed sources and locked bootloaders
you certainly wont be flashing no custom rom on apple devices anytime soon .....the max you can do is theme it with some limited jailbreak apps
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well you are comparing the support of a budget line android with apple ...if you had a one plus five o samsung s6/7/8 Note etc etc you would have all sorts of roms and support comin at you from all sides
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I don't mean to make it seem like i'm comparing the E4 to an iPhone, there isn't even a comparison. I'm simply replying to the OP, my opinion about support, security and longevity.
KevMetal said:
the moto e4 cost like 100$ max bro and that ain't what apple is charging
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Right, but do you believe just because you paid less money, you deserve less support? Especially with security support?
KevMetal said:
overcharges perhaps not then but they don't offer any phones at a price point i want to pay for a phone with closed sources and locked bootloaders
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That's cool - I'm not knocking you for your choice. Your money, your choice.
KevMetal said:
you certainly wont be flashing no custom rom on apple devices anytime soon .....
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Nor, do I want too.
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I don't mean to make it seem like i'm comparing the E4 to an iPhone, there isn't even a comparison. I'm simply replying to the OP, my opinion about support, security and longevity.
Right, but do you believe just because you paid less money, you deserve less support? Especially with security support?
That's cool - I'm not knocking you for your choice. Your money, your choice.
Nor, do I want too.
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*no worries bro everything is cool*
it's none of my business bro but did you really think your actions through properly when you bought yourself an iphone 6 then give your kid ( who you love i presume ) a device you don't want cos you feel it's security is compromised ....just sayin bro
kids come first for me security wise ...i think with root access and various mods you can secure your android phone and that's part of the fun and why i spend time on xda ...
i used to have some ios devices like 3, 3g , 4 , 4s and then i got tired of having a phone that is always exactly the same style wise ...there have been improvements for sure but never for that price ...anyway i digress
enjoy your iphone bro its a good phone but i just don't understand why you gave your kid the e4 or why you didn't buy a good ( higher class) android device if you had the money to start with
or why you come back to moto e4 forum if you dont have that device anymore and gave it to your kid because of security concerns
i understand you are a themer but are you theming for e4 or android or apple
either way bro no offense intended . keep well and all the best but i still say if you compare price / quality and the open sources and unlocked bootkoader e4 is a good devive and for people on a budget buy one and join us to flash custom roms and have fun here on XDA . The more device owners the more support .........the phone is kickass for a phone of 50-100$...
it can do almost everything an iphone can just a little more slowly
peace :good:
KevMetal said:
*no worries bro everything is cool*
it's none of my business bro but did you really think your actions through properly when you bought yourself an iphone 6 then give your kid ( who you love i presume ) a device you don't want cos you feel it's security is compromised ....just sayin bro
kids come first for me security wise ...i think with root access and various mods you can secure your android phone and that's part of the fun and why i spend time on xda ...
i used to have some ios devices like 3, 3g , 4 , 4s and then i got tired of having a phone that is always exactly the same style wise ...there have been improvements for sure but never for that price ...anyway i digress
i understand you are a themer but are you theming for e4 or android or apple
enjoy your iphone bro its a good phone but i just don't understand why you gave your kid the e4 or why you didn't buy a good ( higher class) android device if you had the money to start with
or why you come back to moto e4 forum if you dont have that device anymore and gave it to your kid because of security concerns
either way bro no offense intended . keep well and all the best but i still say if you compare price / quality and the open sources and unlocked bootkoader e4 is a good devive and for people on a budget buy one and join us to flash custom roms and have fun here on XDA . The more device owners the more support .........the phone is kickass for a phone of 50-100$...
it can do almost everything an iphone can just a little more slowly
peace :good:
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I didn't give my son a Moto E4, and never stated that I did, he uses an iPhone 6s Plus.
And yes, I am modding and playing around with my Moto E4, its all in good fun.
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I didn't give my son a Moto E4, and never stated that I did, he uses an iPhone 6s Plus.
And yes, I am modding and playing around with my Moto E4, its all in good fun.
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my bad was the OP who gave his e4 to his kid . :fingers-crossed: here's to Oreo :good:see you around and enjoy playing with your e4
Wait-a-sec, the Boost Mobile variant of the E4 is also a GSM-capable phone, and can be unlocked via unlock code, rooted, installed with latest custom ROM and security patch, and use with just about any carrier, right?
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If you use GSM sure, but if you use CDMA you're SOL.
But - IMO I don't believe we should have to resort to custom ROMs to have updated security. No matter the cost of your device.
What does this even mean? Overcharges? iPhones costs no more then "flagship" Android phones.
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arjun90 said:
Wait-a-sec, the Boost Mobile variant of the E4 is also a GSM-capable phone, and can be unlocked via unlock code, rooted, installed with latest custom ROM and security patch, and use with just about any carrier, right?
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You're point being...
I'm trying to decide between buying the Boost Mobile version of the E4 or the fully unlocked Moto E4 off Motorola's website. If both can get Oreo that'd be great. The US-market E4 runs on Qualcomm, probably doable to make a custom ROM compared to the Mediatek processor
If it worth spending double on the E4 by directly purchasing from Motorola?
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You're point being...
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arjun90 said:
I'm trying to decide between buying the Boost Mobile version of the E4 or the fully unlocked Moto E4 off Motorola's website. If both can get Oreo that'd be great. The US-market E4 runs on Qualcomm, probably doable to make a custom ROM compared to the Mediatek processor
If it worth spending double on the E4 by directly purchasing from Motorola?
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Oh - hmm, if you plan on unlocking and only using custom ROMs, I'd go for the Boost E4. But if you want to use both, OEM ROM and custom ROM, go for the unlocked.
EDIT: If you could afford it, go with the Moto E4 Plus. It's a much better phone than the regular E4.
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EDIT: If you could afford it, go with the Moto E4 Plus. It's a much better phone than the regular E4.
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IDK - depends on criteria. I like the removable (and easily replaceable) battery on the regular E4 along with lighter weight and higher PPI. Once you wander into E4 Plus territory might as well go for the G5 unless a wando sized battery is top priority.