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Future root and ROM community?

Really disappointed with my LG G4.
It took months to get root, there are 10 variants each with different software and only 1 has an officially unlocked boot-loader. There are virtually no custom ROMs for my phone.
What do you guys predict this phone will be like within the modding community? Hardware wise this would be a step down for me, but if that means a decent trade-off software wise I think it would be worth it. And maybe what do you guys think about posing my question towards the 2015 Nexus 5?

Hardware wise the g4 and the style are almost identical. What's a step down? If root and romming are high priorities for you, I'd look for the nexuses
Sent from my Nexus 10

Well the camera on the G4 is a bit nicer, the removable battery is nicer, larger expandable storage, barometer, ect. Compare on phonearena. Theres no debating the G4 is a better phone, but software wise it's not the phone for me. I think I can stick it out till October. Sucks waiting while my G4 drops in value.

I'll give you the camera ? Being that the X pure will be sim unlocked I think most of us are assuming the bootloaders will be easily unlockable. On the other hand, the dev community is always the best for nexus phones.
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I think the main reason that the dev community sucks on the LG G4 (I almost got it earlier in the year until I was following the root debacle) is that only one model (the international 815 variant) had an unlockable bootloader and root took forever to achieve. With the Moto -- being a "pure" or "dev-like" non-carrier chained model, there is a large assumption that the bootloader will be easily unlocked and if this is the case, root should be no harder than flashing the latest SuperSU.
The recently released Moto G has an unlockable bootloader, as do previous non-carrier linked Moto X's -- so there is no reason to believe ours won't be as well: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
And if/when the bootloader if opened, you should start to see a healthy dose of deving -- although many people have raved how "pure" Moto's implementation of Android is, so you may find you may not need to flash a new ROM, but instead maybe just root and a few key utilities like Xposed to get what you want. I flashed custom ROMs on almost every phone I've had, with the exception of the Nexus 5 -- because there really wasn't a need to. But it's nice to have choices

It seems to me that there is less available for the Moto X 2014 in terms of ROMs, kernels and such than I'd have expected. That's good reason for a lot of us to pin our hopes on the Huawei Nexus. I was figuring that there would be heavy development for the Pure. But now, I'm not quite so sure. Will Motorola release the source code?
I agree that Xposed can cover a bunch of things that ROMs would. I don't always use them, either. But as pinoymutt says, it's nice to have choices.

Guys remember we cannot predict the dev community for this device yet. I think this will attract a lot of attention because it is a uncarrier version and cheap. If you compare to the moto x 2014 it isn't exactly the same situation because they had carrier versions and what not. The price for this device is also attractive so I think the dev community will explode. From day one we can all have our bootloaders unlocked and as soon as someone converts TWRP we will be off to the races. One thing is certain, this will have a lot more support over the G4. I'm excited to see what will happen

I would lay decent odds that this device will see more than adequate support. No carrier limitation, unlocked and cheap with great specs is going to draw people in.

Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?

Jkteam said:
Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?
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It's probably a boot animation that can be adjusted. I've never had a moto device but I bet there are tools out there

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Guys, any idea if there will be a way to remove the greetings in the future if we decide to chose one with Moto maker?
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On the previous Xs there was an option to delete it when you did a factory reset.

I think this phone will have an excellent community following here. There are a lot of posts here considering nobody has the phone yet. The critics will always do their thing but I'm thinking we have a winner here. I'm looking forward to it.

dmb219 said:
I think this phone will have an excellent community following here. There are a lot of posts here considering nobody has the phone yet. The critics will always do their thing but I'm thinking we have a winner here. I'm looking forward to it.
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+1 oh how I hope so.
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I hope so. I am coming from nexus 5 and expect this to have a large development community

LG G5 Confirmed for February 21 Launch

LG G5 launch date confirmed for February 21. It may feature a unique and interesting modular battery design.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with locked bootloader and MM fully securised.........for sure !!!!! :laugh:
and no possibility to unlock it for some looooooong time !!!!!! maybe NEVER ! :laugh:
no development are possible ! nothing !!!!! ........completely useless for XDA !!! this forum don't have to spend energy to create a section ..........pffffff !!!!!!!!
And with bad reputation of LG G4 with it's fragile hardware ,with all these bootloop and other .......... i think that too many people will change for others manufacturers ......

Yes and they supposedly move the buttons on the side.....
This is one good reason to jump in another OEM's wagon. For me back volume rocker was the first reason that pushed me to buy G2. And i was kinda disappointed with G4 when i got the hardware problems after 1 month.
Got to consider my next buy.

Loulou-13 said:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with locked bootloader and MM fully securised.........for sure !!!!! :laugh:
and no possibility to unlock it for some looooooong time !!!!!! maybe NEVER ! :laugh:
no development are possible ! nothing !!!!! ........completely useless for XDA !!! this forum don't have to spend energy to create a section ..........pffffff !!!!!!!!
And with bad reputation of LG G4 with it's fragile hardware ,with all these bootloop and other .......... i think that too many people will change for others manufacturers ......
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U are right , bootloader will lose their minority buyer but i think they don't give the sh*t either ...

venom_tan said:
U are right , bootloader will lose their minority buyer but i think they don't give the sh*t either ...
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yes it's sure ..... users like ours are really a "minority" ...but there are much more users who "fiddle" their phone (who search for root,xposed,tweaks,customs.....) than we think .
and this future G5 will be the same as an Apple iphone and others Android manufacturers who will eventualy follow this full securities and locks .

The reason I bought the G4 was that I assumed it would be able to root, bootloader unlock and get a custom recovery for Custom Roms. Unfortunately I have the Verizon VS986 variant which only allows root. LG has been pretty stable and fast, maybe not as fast as the Motorola X Pure Edition which has the same specs but overall I am satisfied.
My contract extension isn't until 2017 so I'm pretty much stuck with the phone until then. I have alot of time to monitor and see who really is looking out for people like us that want full control of the phone and the Rom that is within the device.
..Sent from an XDA modified LG G4 on Verizon..

There's no point in buying a phone, if it's not possible to root and mod it. Period

s7 has rumours of a SD card if so back to sammy for me, root don't worry me my banking and a few other apps I need will not run on rooted device.
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

Not bad. But seeing how the G4 is as simple as a phone can get and had quite a bit of issues. I can easily see the G5 being filled with even more with a design like that. Stacking the locked bootloader situation and security on top, probably a no go for me.
Sony is really looking like a good option for the future seeing how they're very developer friendly and provide some nice options for the type of phone you'll want. (Premium, compact, that other third one)

Hopefully HTC this year will make us a surprise for the flagship phone then I will jump back to HTC .

venom_tan said:
Hopefully HTC this year will make us a surprise for the flagship phone then I will jump back to HTC .
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*100 Out of all the manufacturers I think HTC has had the right idea for a couple years. They just can't seem to get the camera right for some odd reason. But if the camera is only marginally better than the M9 there's no question where I'll be headed. G4 dev support is almost non existent and if I can't tinker than its no use to me.

An HTC with a very good camera, why not 12mpx Ultrapixels..., or a Sony with an Amoled screen and finally a good camera which can shoot in Raw. I like my G4, but screen touch problem is not professional at all and I don't have time to send it and get it back 20 days later... Not serious at all about what LG did. Imagine Apple with this kind of problem... And the G4 don't have fingerprint sensor, a big shame, but like I said, it's still a good phone.

Well, then the show is open for some devices with good dev-support. I'm ready to hear, because neither the new Nexus 6P nor Nexus 5X have that amount of development. And those are phones without any problem.
At the moment, there isn't any new "beloved by developers" phone, is it?

MickyFoley said:
Well, then the show is open for some devices with good dev-support. I'm ready to hear, because neither the new Nexus 6P nor Nexus 5X have that amount of development. And those are phones without any problem.
At the moment, there isn't any new "beloved by developers" phone, is it?
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Umm let's head over to the S6, Note 5, even the dreaded M9 has way more dev support. And I'm pretty sure the S7, Note 6 and M10 will have more dev support. There is no one "beloved by developers" phone but it seems like we have a good candidate for most "hated by developers" phone. The G4 gets my vote.

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*100 Out of all the manufacturers I think HTC has had the right idea for a couple years. They just can't seem to get the camera right for some odd reason. But if the camera is only marginally better than the M9 there's no question where I'll be headed. G4 dev support is almost non existent and if I can't tinker than its no use to me.
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HTC has amazing devices but has vastly ignored the camera which is a shame. The M9 is a beast and the only reason that made me not buy the phone was the lackluster camera. I just wish there was a way to confirm root, bootloader unlock and Rom compatibility at the time of a phone release but it's a gamble ultimately.
We will all see in a few weeks at Mobile World Congress 2016 Barcelona.
.: sent from my 'Android til I die' phone or tablet

I'm entitled to a new phone July 2017, so roughly 1,5 years to watch the scene. The G4 has amazing potential, I kinda believe what we encounter is mostly software related issues. LG, still, is a very professional company and I doubt they'd pick suppliers who don't double check their hardware. But: After that, LG is dead. I don't understand why you'd wanna lock out developers. I mean, half the stuff of today's Android was made up by developers and hands down, there is some and I doubt it's only a small minority, who don't wanna wait forever till they receive a bloated update or even worse who have to hope and pray that their device will be supplied with updates in the future.

Loulou-13 said:
with locked bootloader and MM fully securised.........for sure !!!!!
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do you have a source for locked bootloader or is this only your assumption?

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do you have a source for locked bootloader or is this only your assumption?
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It's sure at 99.9% that the LG politic about security will not changed at all... it's getting worse ...
Phones are more and more highly encrypted,blocked securised ........because of very bad terribles hackers who want to steal all android users (datas...) ,that's known ...

Loulou-13 said:
It's sure at 99.9% that the LG politic about security will not changed at all... it's getting worse ...
Phones are more and more highly encrypted,blocked securised ........because of very bad terribles hackers who want to steal all android users (datas...) ,that's known ...
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EU H815 is unlockable. if G5 EU version is also unlockable i`m more then happy.
locked down provider phones on us market is another story but this is not a LG (only) problem. rate with your provider decision and / or buy free phones on the market!

paratox said:
EU H815 is unlockable. if G5 EU version is also unlockable i`m more then happy.
locked down provider phones on us market is another story but this is not a LG (only) problem. rate with your provider decision and / or buy free phones on the market!
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yes ... all manufacturers will follow in this way ......
and "geeks" like ours will have less and less choice of phone ( otherwise we are forced to conform and and sacrifice by buying a phone like others standard users, never without root ,customs ,xposed ... but just the stock firmware )
The only way will be to buy a old second hand phone with developments........or pray that NEXUS will continue to be easy to hack and unlock .
the begining of the end ??? wait and see ...

X1 looks insane !

http://www.alcatel-mobile.com/global-en/products/detail/X1#.V1iBp_krLIU
New alcatel phone looks marvelous !

xotz said:
http://www.alcatel-mobile.com/global-en/products/detail/X1#.V1iBp_krLIU
New alcatel phone looks marvelous !
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Alcatel can keep producing good looking phones all they want. They pretty much screwed over their userbase from the Idol 3. I know most people despise Alcatel now from the horrible customer support and lack of frequent updates. Not to mention their false advertising of supporting T-Mobile and their VoLTE support. Along with the removal of Band 12 since they're obviously too selfish to pay for the certification for it. Also, the phone is running 5.0 still. Good luck with that.

brian117 said:
Alcatel can keep producing good looking phones all they want. They pretty much screwed over their userbase from the Idol 3. I know most people despise Alcatel now from the horrible customer support and lack of frequent updates. Not to mention their false advertising of supporting T-Mobile and their VoLTE support. Along with the removal of Band 12 since they're obviously too selfish to pay for the certification for it. Also, the phone is running 5.0 still. Good luck with that.
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the UPDATE HAPPEN TODAY , some versions already have 6.0.1 !! Finally

xotz said:
the UPDATE HAPPEN TODAY , some versions already have 6.0.1 !! Finally
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I'm aware. But I'm talking about the X1 that you posted.

brian117 said:
I'm aware. But I'm talking about the X1 that you posted.
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i think its a beauty , but of course , the device and the company need improvements.

brian117 said:
I'm aware. But I'm talking about the X1 that you posted.
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I don't understand peoples frustration about update. My Idol 3 received 8 updates and was always one of the first to receive the security update, additionally a year has past and I just received an update to Marshmallow with the latest UI. I'm very happy considering I paid only $180 for this phone. Customer service is also very good.

HughJanus said:
I don't understand peoples frustration about update. My Idol 3 received 8 updates and was always one of the first to receive the security update, additionally a year has past and I just received an update to Marshmallow with the latest UI. I'm very happy considering I paid only $180 for this phone. Customer service is also very good.
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I think the biggest issue, other than the ubiquitous whiners and those who expect someone else to do all of the research, testing, etc, are those who have carrier versions rather than the global factory unlocked phone Yes , I know that on paper the specs are the same, but firmware allows or restricts or tweaks the access and/or function of the hardware. I originally had the Cricket 60450 version that got stolen(blessing in disguise) and replaced it with the global unlocked version from Amazon....totally different phone. I ended up returning 2 to Amazon for various reasons. and all 3 of them had slight differences. This is not unusual at all. I had T-Mobile note 4's, and had differences in the 3 I used...same model, except for the last which was the A variant. My biggest complaint with the Idol was the horrible memory management. It stayed in the 70+ % used and would get near 90% on a regular basis even with cleaning several times a day. I just got the 6.0.1 update at around 1 P.M. Central(US), and so far memory usage has gotten 64% at the highest, and seems to run between 55 and 61. I can't see a valid complaint on this phone other than if you have hardware failure, considering what you get for less than $200, and I have had a LOT of flagship phones and definitely don't see any of them worth an extra $350-400. I have my Idol on Cricket's cheapest plan for the ATT coverage and as my entertainment device, and the LG G Stylo on T-Mobile as my business/daily. If only someone could blend these two phones I would have my dream, lol. My only real complaints now on the Idol are a non-removable battery, and a somewhat thin screen.

HughJanus said:
I don't understand peoples frustration about update. My Idol 3 received 8 updates and was always one of the first to receive the security update, additionally a year has past and I just received an update to Marshmallow with the latest UI. I'm very happy considering I paid only $180 for this phone. Customer service is also very good.
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All really minor updates fixing stuff that should have worked from the start (like double tap to wake).
Being stuck at 5.0.2 for more than a year wasn't nice.

bryanbreguet said:
All really minor updates fixing stuff that should have worked from the start (like double tap to wake).
Being stuck at 5.0.2 for more than a year wasn't nice.
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Agreed. It would've been a good gesture of the company to at least give us 5.1, but they didn't and that really crapped on the phone and users themselves since apps are getting more advanced and instructions are leaving the phone behind. The tech inside the phone isn't bad, but when proper firmware and os aren't placed on the phone you can't fully use that tech. It's like putting a GTX 980 Ti inside a computer using a dual core and 32bit windows. Doesn't work so well. I hope that they learned from this 1 year disaster and with the Idol 4/4s they don't do the same crap over and over again or they'd might as well change their name to ZTE. They NEVER update their phones in a timely fashion if at all 95% of the time. Since they have released MM I'm going to continue to use the phone now that it's not bottlenecked by old os and firmware. I hope that development for the phone in the form of roms and tweaks starts up and maybe we get official support from CM.

HughJanus said:
I don't understand peoples frustration about update. My Idol 3 received 8 updates and was always one of the first to receive the security update, additionally a year has past and I just received an update to Marshmallow with the latest UI. I'm very happy considering I paid only $180 for this phone. Customer service is also very good.
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I just reached my one-year anniversary with the Idol 3 and I agree with you 100%.
It is good to have Marshmallow on the phone but it hasn't really changed my user experience drastically. The things that made the phone amazing have not changed (loud speakers, sleek design, best bang for buck since Nexus 4,etc)
Having received Marshmallow reinforced my belief that Alcatel supports its phones. I won't be buying a new phone anytime soon but it is good to know that there are options on the horizon.

H870DS Bootloader workaround?

Hello,
So I got the H870DS version without knowing about LG's policy on bootloader unlocking so I was really disappointed when I learned that I can't unlock my phone.
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.

qer0si said:
Hello,
So I got the H870DS version without knowing about LG's policy on bootloader unlocking so I was really disappointed when I learned that I can't unlock my phone.
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!

vijaykanth said:
I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.

qer0si said:
I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
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Man, I feel you. Even I was about to order this literally yesterday. Then I saw that the support LG offers is not just pathetic, but non-existent. Are we supposed to think of their devices as flagships, when we aren't even getting full ownership of the device after paying the full amount upfront? This is the reason its rivals are doing much better, even after LG uses the "latest" tech.
Anyways, I ordered the OnePlus 5, and that will be my first Chinese smartphone. I am very skeptical about the OP5 as well, cause it is hardly a flagship (no expandable memory, no water resistance, no dust resistance, easily overpriced by $50), but what can you do?! The smartphone market is really pathetic since 2015. Consumers are so stupid and jump on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, and none of the smartphones have impressed me since 2013, except maybe the S8, which is way too overpriced by at least a $100!

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Man, I feel you. Even I was about to order this literally yesterday. Then I saw that the support LG offers is not just pathetic, but non-existent. Are we supposed to think of their devices as flagships, when we aren't even getting full ownership of the device after paying the full amount upfront? This is the reason its rivals are doing much better, even after LG uses the "latest" tech.
Anyways, I ordered the OnePlus 5, and that will be my first Chinese smartphone. I am very skeptical about the OP5 as well, cause it is hardly a flagship (no expandable memory, no water resistance, no dust resistance, easily overpriced by $50), but what can you do?! The smartphone market is really pathetic since 2015. Consumers are so stupid and jump on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, and none of the smartphones have impressed me since 2013, except maybe the S8, which is way too overpriced by at least a $100!
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From what I understand they don't offer bootloader support for the asian version because they're afraid that resellers may load bloatware or even spyware on the device before selling it and so you're sure you're getting a safe out of box software experience this way and I guess the majority of buyers won't care about unlocking it thus hurting more "advanced" users.
The OnePlus 5 seems decent although they have indeed overpriced it a bit for what it offers but I've held different OnePlus devices (One, X, 3) and their build quality is nice and the unlocked bootloader will prolong its lifespan by quite a bit through custom roms.

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From what I understand they don't offer bootloader support for the asian version because they're afraid that resellers may load bloatware or even spyware on the device before selling it and so you're sure you're getting a safe out of box software experience this way and I guess the majority of buyers won't care about unlocking it thus hurting more "advanced" users.
The OnePlus 5 seems decent although they have indeed overpriced it a bit for what it offers but I've held different OnePlus devices (One, X, 3) and their build quality is nice and the unlocked bootloader will prolong its lifespan by quite a bit through custom roms.
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Yep, LG and its code of ethics has hurt developers and hardcore users big time. In one way I guess you have to agree to it as well, because it is indeed great to see a firm that cares about security and user information safety (unlike the OnePlus which blatantly takes user info, but can be avoided after installing a custom ROM, which is why we buy Android smartphones )
I am hoping to not think of any other device for another 2-3 years at least. If the new OnePlus that's coming out later this year or early next year is good then I'll definitely exchange the OnePlus 5 for that. Smartphone buying has become hectic!
To the moderator of this thread: You can close this thread!

vijaykanth said:
I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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His question was valid and met guidelines so please keep your opinions to yourself if they are not helpful to the initial post. You will be reported next time, the forums here do not support stifling of valid questions and support. Strike one.

qer0si said:
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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Why not just trade phones with your friend?

dwasifar said:
Why not just trade phones with your friend?
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He thinks my model being the Korean one is gonna show problems soon lol, oh and he has the white color which I really don't like because it makes the black line between the body of the phone and the screen noticeable.

qer0si said:
I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
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Sell it and buy the LG G6 US997 from B&H they are all bootloader unlockable its the US version NOT US Cellular and they are cheap as well hope this helps ya link enclosed below
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1322815/lg_g6_us997_32gb_smartphone.html

[poll] Xiaomi A2 Future, is it dead or promising

So i bought this phone since it released in my country, i bought the 6Gb ram version and i was too excited about, Android one phone with great specs according to the price, but i am a lil bit disappointed right now,
The update releases is a bit confusing as we can see what's happening with pie updates.
The development is too slow as there no working twrp and related stuff.
Forgive my ignorance as coming from HTC M8 with its big development from its early stages , this phone disappointed me, but dont get me wrong i am happy with the phone regarding its battery life what annoying me a bit but the fast charger make it up to me.
So based on ur experience guys what do u expect guys and is the fourms going to be on fire soon or is it going to be like that all along ?

its going to be alive for sure, but you won't get first-class support, also for sure. this phone is good for people who are on a budget yet want to have a fairly up-to-date software (including security updates) and don't expect pixel-level support. If you are one of these people, A2 is probably one of the best phones you can get. But if you expect a pixel-level support then you should probably go buy pixel

It will get better, but don't expect anywhere near the support your old phone had, that was a flagship and a very successful one, I don't I've tried a quarter of the roms that were available for my m7

Yu are being given more than just descent specs for a more than descent price but no updates should be fast like google pixel ... well not gonna happen
Software r&d is not cheap as yu can see many here on xda develop on in there spare time and with donations and i dont think even though xiaomi have great revenue and sales they are yet ready to speed up the process (FOR ME UPDATES ARE ALREADY FAST ENOUGH EVEN NOW BETTER THAN MY SAMSUNG GALAXY S7 THAT WAS WORTH 49999 rs)
Moral of the story is = just because yu are given good hardware at a fine price dont expect them to give yu fast software support too ( only if yu have a pixel )
Otherwise apple phones get ios for really long time( enjoy there new emoji in every damn update )

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its going to be alive for sure, but you won't get first-class support, also for sure. this phone is good for people who are on a budget yet want to have a fairly up-to-date software (including security updates) and don't expect pixel-level support. If you are one of these people, A2 is probably one of the best phones you can get. But if you expect a pixel-level support then you should probably go buy pixel
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It will get better, but don't expect anywhere near the support your old phone had, that was a flagship and a very successful one, I don't I've tried a quarter of the roms that were available for my m7
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sharingan said:
Yu are being given more than just descent specs for a more than descent price but no updates should be fast like google pixel ... well not gonna happen
Software r&d is not cheap as yu can see many here on xda develop on in there spare time and with donations and i dont think even though xiaomi have great revenue and sales they are yet ready to speed up the process (FOR ME UPDATES ARE ALREADY FAST ENOUGH EVEN NOW BETTER THAN MY SAMSUNG GALAXY S7 THAT WAS WORTH 49999 rs)
Moral of the story is = just because yu are given good hardware at a fine price dont expect them to give yu fast software support too ( only if yu have a pixel )
Otherwise apple phones get ios for really long time( enjoy there new emoji in every damn update )
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Mates i didn't expect pixel level of support at all, it just i didnt think Android One phone would get low development and update like that,
I can run Android pie on my M8 which pretty old phone now, but u cant run it on my 2018 Android one device, does that make any sense to you mates ??
On the other hand pocophone got it's official TWRP and keep being updated while the price difference is t that much though.

Brachogan said:
Mates i didn't expect pixel level of support at all, it just i didnt think Android One phone would get low development and update like that,
I can run Android pie on my M8 which pretty old phone now, but u cant run it on my 2018 Android one device, does that make any sense to you mates
On the other hand pocophone got it's official TWRP and keep being updated while the price difference is t that much though.
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Why the hell are yu guys quoting me when i am making the exact same point that yu made
This is a budget phone not pixel lile ( COMPARED TO MY S7 JUST TO MAKE A POINT and even if my s7 is a flagship it gets security patches at end of each month whereas this MI A2 Gets updated on start of each month and that too sometimes more than one update )

I used to use an OPO which had and to a certain extent still has a lively developer scene (It's been a few months since the first Pie popped in the forums for it).
I don't neither expect nor foresee that sort of activity over here. This is a mid-range budget phone.
Then again, at least, bootloader unlock is hassle free.

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I used to use an OPO which had and to a certain extent still has a lively developer scene (It's been a few months since the first Pie popped in the forums for it).
I don't neither expect nor foresee that sort of activity over here. This is a mid-range budget phone.
Then again, at least, bootloader unlock is hassle free.
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I came from an OPO myself. And kind of disappointed with lack of development for now. It's a new phone and hopefully it'll pick up. It's a good phone don't get me but it's a "meh" or "alright" phone after a few weeks. Definitely a forgettable phone. Feel like I should've gone pocophone fone (1)