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not putting nougat update on m7 just bad marketing

HTC would be the most attractive company on the market if they put out a reputation of 4+ system platform upgrades. M7 is the perfect phone to start with. Updating in multiple stages for all M7 stock systems, Lollipop-->Nougat

kruc Ire said:
HTC would be the most attractive company on the market if they put out a reputation of 4+ system platform upgrades. M7 is the perfect phone to start with. Updating in multiple stages for all M7 stock systems, Lollipop-->Nougat
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lol keep dreaming :laugh:

3 years old device get official n update ? no,, keep dreaming bro

I think you are misreading my post. It is my intention that HTC set a mark higher than the other companies dare to go, creating a reputation of value greater than the other companies, and driving business away from the competition, towards our phones... and my phone is just over 1 mo old. :good: phone battery lasted all day and still over 50% left. No charging for 12 hours

Your M7 is one month old, yes, but tje m7 was released 3 years ago, we as m7 users have to rely on the devs to create updated roms for us.

Nougat requires Vulkan, the GPU in the snapdragon 600 doesnt have it, even the 800/801 doesnt have it, thats why the N5 wont get it either.

ChrisM75 said:
Nougat requires Vulkan, the GPU in the snapdragon 600 doesnt have it, even the 800/801 doesnt have it, thats why the N5 wont get it either.
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Actually, it doesn't really require it as my Moto G3 has an AOSP Nougat ROM.

Apparently, Apple owners keep their devices for 3-4 years, on average. They can reasonably expect software support for the entire time they keep their device.
Even with a lower, less-frequent device turnover than many Androids, Apple manages to sell a lot of phones each year.
With the increased competition for Android users' money, you'd think one of the major Android manufacturers, who are often criticized for copying Apple, would follow Apple's example on the software support front. This would quickly make them stand out from the pack.
I, for one, am never again buying an expensive phone with no guarantees of extended software support. If HTC is done with the M7, then I'm done with them.

floborg said:
I, for one, am never again buying an expensive phone with no guarantees of extended software support. If HTC is done with the M7, then I'm done with them.
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Good luck finding an OEM that supports phones over two years. From what I've seen, HTC is one of the better OEMs to support device updates in recent years.
Maybe a Nexus device, but even then the Nexus 5 (released after the m7) isn't getting Nougat either.

coal686 said:
Good luck finding an OEM that supports phones over two years. From what I've seen, HTC is one of the better OEMs to support device updates in recent years.
Maybe a Nexus device, but even then the Nexus 5 (released after the m7) isn't getting Nougat either.
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Well, there's Apple. Ugh.
It's hard for the voice of "reason" to be heard by manufacturers over the noise of massive sales & media hype. So, those of us that like prompt s/w updates, loud speakers, and 4.7" screens are largely out of luck with Android devices lately.
Nexus/Pixel purchases are one way to to indicate a preference for updates, but it feels a bit like a protest vote - kind of like when the 3rd party candidates aren't much better than the front-runners.

floborg said:
Well, there's Apple. Ugh.
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Probably a lot easier for Apple to bring iOS 10 to the Iphone 5 when they "only" have released 9 phones (and half of them simply being a "+" or "S" variant) in the last 5 years.
How much phones did HTC released in 5 years? Over a hundred if you count all the phones from the One series, Desires series, Droid series... Virtually impossible to keep them all updated to the latest version. I think 3 years of official updates for an android flagship is really good. If HTC had the whole android market for them, making only 1 phone/year (and a "+" variant), I'm sure they would also be able to give official update for 5 years.

alray said:
I think 3 years of official updates for an android flagship is really good.
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That's because they've all set the bar so low.
Something has to be done to convince Google, Qualcomm/etc, and the phone manufacturers to work out a solution that makes updates easier. Maybe, as these devices make their way deeper into the corporate/government world (where long-term support is a huge deal), they'll see how it makes business sense for them to do it.
All I can do is support the devices with the longest support cycle.

alray said:
Probably a lot easier for Apple to bring iOS 10 to the Iphone 5 when they "only" have released 9 phones (and half of them simply being a "+" or "S" variant) in the last 5 years.
How much phones did HTC released in 5 years? Over a hundred if you count all the phones from the One series, Desires series, Droid series... Virtually impossible to keep them all updated to the latest version. I think 3 years of official updates for an android flagship is really good. If HTC had the whole android market for them, making only 1 phone/year (and a "+" variant), I'm sure they would also be able to give official update for 5 years.
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You should know that the S variants are usually entirely different phones, sharing only the chassis and outer shell, and even thoses have subtle differences. I consider the standard, non S devices from apple as a proof of concept and crowd beta testing (let us all remember the antenagate), and then they release the S to address all the shortcomings of the previous one. And that's the advice i give to all my friends which are tempting on buying a iPhone, you're better with the previous S, than the current Non-S (bang for buck)
Regarding your other statement, that's one of the main problems i find with OEMs these days, from HTC to Samsung to Sony... They flood the market with too many variations of the same device, keep up with multiple trees of them, each with a miriad of products. Like you said, on HTC you get the One, the Desire, the Droid, and probably others. On Samsung, you get the S, the Note, smaller tree but dear God, so many devices.
Consider this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy#Models
or
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTC_devices
It get's to the point that unless you are a connoisseur of your OEM, it's very hard to tell if the device A is better than the B, just by their model.
OEMs should focus more, dedicate more R&D time to less devices and produce better hardware, and offer better software support. Hell, the auto industry warranty figured this out several years ago, you get car A with 3Years or 60000miles warranty, and car B with 5y or 100000miles... this factor weights on your decision...

Of course its a stupid idea. Because the phone companies putting out the phones for a penny to end users.
But mostly its stupid cause no matter what you do the phone go flop in water or slide out a pocket between bike spokes and frame at top speed and splat! Time for a new one.(see my new video)
And its stupid cause UFS type game changing upgrades to hardware.
You know it would be nice on the M7 is all.
but could they just give us security patches on the phones? That would be a great thing.

ChrisM75 said:
Nougat requires Vulkan, the GPU in the snapdragon 600 doesnt have it, even the 800/801 doesnt have it, thats why the N5 wont get it either.
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coal686 said:
Good luck finding an OEM that supports phones over two years. From what I've seen, HTC is one of the better OEMs to support device updates in recent years.
Maybe a Nexus device, but even then the Nexus 5 (released after the m7) isn't getting Nougat either.
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Guys , I'm Sorry to say so ... but , your all wrong because N5 finally received Nougat ( no matter it was not official ) but as it is fully functional ( actually the ones based on r7 ) and everything seems fine , it means that it's not Impossible to have it on our M7 either ... Don't you think so ? ...
With Best Wishes
Hitman1376​

hitman1376 said:
Guys , I'm Sorry to say so ... but , your all wrong because N5 finally received Nougat ( no matter it was not official ) but as it is fully functional ( actually the ones based on r7 ) and everything seems fine , it means that it's not Impossible to have it on our M7 either ... Don't you think so ? ...
With Best Wishes
Hitman1376​
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No, definitely not impossible, but I was referring to official support. OEMs tend to support phones for about two years. Anything older requires XDA developers to come to the rescue.

There was a topic here recently where someone said they built Nougat for the m7. He said something to the effect of, "nothing worked," which doesn't reveal how far he got.

coal686 said:
No, definitely not impossible, but I was referring to official support. OEMs tend to support phones for about two years. Anything older requires XDA developers to come to the rescue.
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Sure thing ... I esp meant the other reply talking about the hardware staff ... But, your telling the Right thing in general ... OEMs leave usually after a year or two ... actually , HTC is MUCH better than Sam ( I own a Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 ) because my tablet is even much better than Flagships ( according to Hardware and Software ... I even got better Benchmarks with my kernel comparing with Note 3 ) but , It didn't even get a simple TouchWiz M Release which is much more annoying ... also the sources samsung provides are usually less flexible with different ToolChains and Modifications Comparing with HTC ( at least with M7 ) ... I even faced some Odd errors when compiling with a newer TC which is not true with HTC M7's ... long story short , I'm never going to buy a Sam again ... Their phones are dull but pretty dolled up ( at least in my humble Opinion )
With Best Wishes
Hitman1376​
PS. as I'm not going to start a never ending war between the Fans of these companies , I completely respect your opinions ... It was just my humble exp ...

I request EVERY ONE SIGN THIS PETITION NOW!!!

First they sold a old hardware and software
Second they failed to fix any bugs and errors
Third they did not give a system upgrade to any market except china
Fourth Very poor after sales support
Fifth Still selling this device and fooling consumers in Asian and European markets.
Only a few people know how to switch to other ROMs, but what about the majority rest of people.
React now.
Sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/yuanqing-y...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
if anyone knows lenovo businesses heads, CEO, MD, mail and social accounts, PM me their addresses...
and dont forget, please share this link on your twitter accounts.

prax31 said:
Im tired of switching between these unstable and unreliable custom roms...
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That's a punch in every devs face!
There are so many people including me that are happier with custom roms then the stock cos 12.1 which.
Thank Mr.Coldbird for marshmallow and his fp gestures, thanks to @acuicultor and @OrdenKrieger for the great kernel and device trees and all others for the variety of custom roms.
Those people who are buying this device nowadays don't care about updates or Android versions, otherwise they wouldn't buy a device which comes with Android 5.
Everybody who is aware of the Android update policy knows that every manufacturer makes their own update plan and those who want fast updates going to buy nexus or pixel phones or an iPhone

I have 2 zuk1's, both fully stock and both working as expected with only one bug. Both are suffering from the "waking up" syndrome.
The oldest zuk has been produced in Nov 2015 and since more than a year my daily driver...the second one is produced in March 2016 and in my possession since a couple of months.
I don't see any reason to complain as I knew I was buying "old" software and lets be honest, the hardware still still fairly up to date considering the price range the phone is being sold in. What you guys want is a phone with the specs of a Samsung S7 for less than 200€ new?! Do you really think that Lenovo is going to invest its time and resources in a phone which is no longer in production?
The phone's still on sale currently are NOT sold be Lenovo but people/company's who are trying to get rid of old stock...

Paid 239€ in a Electronic store. Fair price
Jau the lack of 64bit possibility worries me but otherwise it's fine.
Thanks to the great devs here it also makes me more happy than a Redmi note 2 I owned (just not the Mi5 I'm coming from) But enough OT from me
Just don't buy a Phone you don't like, there is also the web to inform yourself about possible OS updates from the Manufacturer or not etc.
But to be fair, Europe support of Lenovo/Zuk seems to be 0

How do you think about Huawei and the promise for our Honor phones??

Hii to all Honor 8 owners :laugh:
I am starting this topic couse every here and there I find in all of the threads
someone complain how the Huawei don't care and that they don't update
our phone in a good way or at least as promised.
So, the ones which are compain, they say like I paid the money for the phone
I want this or that and they are not satisfide with the phone couse it is an all around good
phone but you know, no xda support or something like it is a good value phone but
Huawei is bad and so on and so on.
Now I want this things to be discussed in this topic...
What do you think, will we get the android O update?
Why do you think Huawei is the one to be blamed?
Do you think they will not keep with the promise they gave to all Honor phones
and the 2 year software upgrade??
Are you dissapointed with this phone or just with Huawei??
Do you think you are not getting with this phone what you have paid for??
And lots of other stuff to be discussed in this topic and thread..
Now to give my opinion.
First I want to say I had a lot of smartphones
I was having from LG, Samsung, Sony and some other phones and now evan this Huawei
The first thing I notice is you guys complain in every xda thread the same and
not being real not for once for any phone
It goes like this
I will never again buy an Huawei or LG or Samsung or Sony or other phone like iPhone
I paid so much money but not getting the full software support, they just don't care about this phone
Then after like 7 days it goes like this is the worst phone I ever had.. do not buy that phone guys couse
it has an overheat issue when gaming..
It is not good for gaming at all
And so on and so on...
Well I must say that you guys always complain that you don't know how to buy your next phone
or you want it to be perfect for the money you paid.. so you are not real..
So lets be real just for once, how come evan an samsung s8+ owner after one or two weeks is
complaining about the phone?? And the usuall thing, I wont buy samsung no more!! LooOOooL
Dont you go and read about the phone what you are getting and what you will be paying for?
Dont you come over to xda to first ask for user experiance but after some time you come to
blaim some company for not giving updates like you DESIRE IT .. like every month.. regardless of
the REAL possibility to have such support??
I had so many phones wich not evan had what now the Honor 8 has.. I had phones wich had no
support not just from the manufacturer but also not on xda like couse my phone was in my region
with the bootloader locked with no possibility to unlock it ever!!
And I was stuck on what I get out of the box
So, long story short, why you guys always looking for the perfect one wich will have it all
like the best build the premium feel and the xda support and evan the support from the
manufacturer and then not getting it and come to blaim someone after like two weeks..
Can it just once be like.. I am satisfide with what I got??
My opinion you should be satisfide with the Honor 8
It has after like 10 months more then some more expansive phones
Not to evan say something about the premium feel and the build quality
So, lets discuss it now and here what you think overall of it.. not in every other topic..

Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Posting this first will promote a better and more productive discussion.
BTW, the last time the Honor 8 FDR-L04/L14 were up-to-date with security patches was October 2016 when Huawei released B162 firmware. December security patch was released in February and that's the latest official we've got so far. Now the still to be released B385 update will bring us just up to March's patch.
I'm starting to see a pattern here now and is not good.

Hii @Dominikrod
Thanks for the link for the update policy
And yes it is not updated that fast.. like getting the march security in the late april or start of may
But is it really something to complain so much of it like some of users do?
What I want to say this is a very good phone not just for the price but it has right now more than some phones priced this much like the samsung A5 2016/2017 phones..
And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping

Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.

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Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Hii @fernandoarafat
And yes if it is the best possible wich is Huawei doing right now I think
it is still good enough but thats just my opinion
But yes I do see that this promise thing you all are saying made you all disappointed
in Huawei..
But nobody is saying if they ever gave a time limit like when they will be releasing anything
to the XDA community... all I hear is no more Huawei I wont be buying anymore phones from Huawei
or the other stuff you are disaappointed..
I just have an idea... like if Huawei had talked first with someone who was in charge from the XDA community..
And some of us ( as I know some developers ) were contacting Huawei..
Why don't we ask the ''someone'' from XDA community ( who made this agreement with Huawei )
to ask for all the Huawei owners here on XDA what is going on??
I think we should ask for what is promised and ask
for some answers or some time limit when some of things will happen.
Anybody more intrested?? Or maybe did anybody already spoke to someone
and has already some info regarding this??

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Don't know if you remember this one but this is almost laughable!
This was Taylor speaking about their new Software Update Policy.
Taylor Wimberly, a customer acquisition manager at Huawei Technologies (which owns Honor), has even gone so far as to challenge other manufacturers to follow Honor's example. "I hope that by announcing this policy that we can change the industry for the better. Seriously, all OEMs should be doing this and I welcome them to join us."

I just tried to contact the XDA community
But after asking the things I was.. and hitting the red SEND button
to send my message to them.. well it just was sending and sending it forever..
So, I have saved the text in my notepad and will try later to send it
Or some other day..
If I succeed and if I get an answer I will report this back to all of you

brljak83 said:
And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
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Hi brljak83,
I'm not sure a 10 month-old phone counts as new device in this market, it's more of a passing one. The truth is that Huawei started quite nicely at the beginning but everything went down hill after November of last year. If you remember this phone was announced back in July/August and Huawei made all sort of PR stunts to convince prospect buyers that their product was the best choice in the $400 to $450 range, at least here in the USA market. I went ahead and bought for myself the $450 Honor 8 64GB at the beginning of that campaign. The Oneplus 3 was $399 at that time, but I wasn't happy with the way OnePlus treated OP2 and OPX owners, so I didn't wanted to do business with them anymore even though the OP3 was an amazing device for the price. Then OnePlus 3T happened and Huawei coudn't justify the overpriced H8 pricing strategy so retailers started discounting the Honor back in November. Some people may argue that H8 was not competing with the 5.5" screen phones but if you read carefully from the beginning that was their intention all alone. Actually some reviews I read compared it mostly with the OP3 and the Axon 7 since those phones are in the same price range or were.
Now mid May 2017, the OP3/3t and the Axon 7 64GB have Android 7.1.1 since April, plus both phones have been getting more frequent security update patches than the H8. And where are we? Still stuck with Android 7.0, December's Security Patch, battery drain issues and some old bugs that have not been fixed yet.
Now you tell me if Taylor Wimberly's August comment about other manufacturers should follow their example and commitment doesn't seem totally laughable.

What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/

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What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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"Next prize giveaway date: new rules and prizes coming in the spring!"
Wonder if that it's still valid?

Thanks for this one
fernandoarafat said:
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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Hii
Thanks you for that link
I tried last night to contact the XDA community to get some answers
But it failed..
Thanks to you I got someone to contact regarding the partnership
When and if I get an answer I will post it and report it back to all of you
So that all of you will know what has been told to me
Thanks for the help :highfive:

No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.

Hii @SolarisSixth
Well, it is your opinion for this phone and I do respect it..
But for me I am not bothered so much by some of the bugs.. And I have them too..
And what I would say to you as an advice from my own experiance becouse I had a lots of phones
like LG or Samsung or Sony or iPhone it is always the same story
Belive me always they say bad or week support I wont buy it again..
So you will have to choose your next phone wisely not to end disappointed again in the same way..
Do a lot of reading about your next phone couse otherwise you will end up again disappointed
Why
Couse it is by all of them the same way and the same treatment
The only thing what I know is for the very most expensive phones ( Flagships ) they get a bit more
treatment and a faster treatment couse it is the best company gives to the customers and it is
the phone that represents the company as the best one they have for that year.. and then you get
a bit better support for bugs and stuff.. couse they dont want to be bad by giving the most expensive one
wich should represent the best face of the company
So if money is not an issue for you and you already choose with your wallet then go for the
most expensive one and still if you get such a phone still be happy with what you get..

https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
However, kernel source release, which Honor tells us will happen in the near future for the Honor 8
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:laugh: There is a broad definition about "near future". Also, legally they HAVE to share kernel source, but who cares about the law anyway?
I have also a Honor 7. They stop supporting roughly 1 year after release. No source code, no Nougat update. I thought they improved something, but apparently no. What a sucker!
It's up to anyone to deal in whatever manner they see fit with Huawei/Honor false promises. What is not debatable is if it's fair to demand for those promises being kept.
I'm not expecting anything besides what the brand promised. And for that I cannot be pointed as being over-demanding or wanting the impossible.
I was afraid of ZTE Axon support but apparently they lead the game, a long with OP and Sony. And given the lottery regarding quality of components Huawei P10, it's just all a big red flag not to spend a cent with the brand.
For now, I will keep the H8 and milk it as much as I can, until I see fit to change. For another brand, obviously.

So here I am to report it back to all of you
This maybe some good news afterall..maybe
It is regarding the partnership with XDA and to give the source code to us.
Read more in the link below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546

Well, i bought this phone at the end of March, this year. I bought it for 329€ on Amazon, and for that price at this specs i think it'a a very good phone, also considering that other similar phones costs even double this price sometimes. Afrer this i tried the phone and i just love it now. Fast, superb fingerprint sensor, good camera, good in gaming etc. The only thing i complain for is the GPU, could be better... However, talking about the software and updates, i think that we will get at least 7.1.1 (if Honor respect their promises). I'm not just talking however, i got in touch with Honor USA on Twitter and that's what they told me:
http://imgur.com/a/OSmLv Screen 1
http://imgur.com/a/RBBFb Screen 2
Ps. The first screen is from a pic that i saw on internet, related to another conversation with Honor USA (not mine). I just sent them this pic and tried to get a confirm from them...wich in the 50% maybe they gave me. Now i don't know if they will relase Android 7.1.1 with EMUI 5.1 someday, but i hope to see it. No hopes for Android O however...
What do you think?

Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546

brljak83 said:
Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
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Hi, i was talking about official updates, not XDA related. However, nice to hear that

SolarisSixth said:
No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
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Honor is not pulling out of the US market and this has been confirmed by them. Can u please specify from where u got the information that they r leaving the US market?
Oh and they completely ignored my second question ?
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

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Vote and post your comments on your beloved MI A1.

I should've bought RN4.

not regret because i have a feeling custom ROMS will fix all the issues we have. it's gonna be huge....

There are quite some problems with the phone but I guess custom ROM can somehow sort it out. For the price : performance ratio, it can't go wrong.

No. It will be very well supported by custom ROMs in the future I am sure, just like my old Moto G 2015 is one of the most popular devices running LineageOS. The price to performance is great as @soralz said despite Xiaomi taking their time on Oreo.

Neh. None at all.

It's the best budget phone that I can buy on my country, the camera is not at a flagship level but I don't take many photos and the rest is ok also the battery is enough for a complete day.
Off-toppic: @jglass071 I also have a Moto G 2015 running LOS 14.1

There are higher specification and lower price Chinese handsets available. Lets not pretend we all got a bargain. The dual camera is trash. The reason (most of us) bought this phone was for buttery smooth Android with first in line updates. This has turned out not to be the case.
So from my point of view I do regret buying the phone, as I could have had better spec Chinese phone (specifically battery) and flashed a custom ROM. Please lets not be childish and start asking me to list them. We can all use GSM arena compare tool.

Higher spec & lower price than Xiaomi mi a1 ... what a joke. The reason you chose it bcoz it's the cheapest budget phone with a good spec and much reliable Chinese brand.
Seriously ppl just dun understand you get what you've paid for. From what I see so far, ppl who ***** about this phone couldn't afford other than this. Pathetic ...

Sorry but you must have misread my previous post.
I stated I bought the phone for the Android One software. The hardware doesn't particularly bother me although it would have been nice to have a decent camera and a bigger battery.
For the price this early 2016 chip does the job and the phone should be good for another 6-12 months with only 4gb of onboard RAM.
Certainly a solid choice in this spending bracket.
Sorry you got so hot tempered with me about the phone, I guess you really love your MiA1 which I respect.
Maybe a quick browse on GSM Arena using compare tool? Always good to see what's out there. Of course, these options would be without the 'Android One' software.

Lol ... who doesn't know about GSMArena, I said that as I know you're unable to state out the phone higher spec and cheaper than xiaomi mi a1.
I'm happy for what I've paid for, it does what I've required and I'm sure there are room for it to improve. Unlike you guys being cheapskate, spent a little money and expect xiaomi to give premium supports. Late updates ended up like crying babies.
Some goes there are lotsa bloatwares and spywares ... for christ sake, you reckon Google, Microsoft, Apple doesn't gather users' information? Stop daydreaming there ...

It's a shame you have become so bitter about your failed investment.
Maybe learn to research the market more next time rather than take your frustrations out on others.

The biggest regret I have is buying it all full price, 2 weeks before the price dropped. No other regrets.

Name one phone with "higher specification and lower price" I bet you can't.

You're another non post reader. Look on GSM arena I'm not here to do your homework boy. Out of pity, I'll start you off with the Xiaomi MiMax2.

Lol max 2 is certainly neither higher specs Nor cheaper than a1.

Unfortunately you are badly wrong again. Mi max 2 is available for 'equi price' of MiA1 and with larger screen and battery.
Many thanks.
As I said, you may want to investigate GSM arena 'compare tool'.

Not at all.
Pure bloat-free android = bliss

No regrets! Good phone for the money.!
There are always some kids crying over delayed updates and "spyware", "bloatware",...
But really, who cares.
I'm satisfied with my A1!

That's great.
As long as you don't have expectations for Android One experience.

Don't support Samsung's Never no updates.

Please all give your support, if you all so are sick and tired, for having paid nearly 1000$ for a phone that still is on Android Nougat 7.0. If we are lucky some will maybe get Oreo in marts, but more likely first after launch of Samsung Galaxy 9.
I will never buy Samsung phone again for sure. Overpaid switzerknife.

Most of us are already running Oreo on our devices

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Please all give your support, if you all so are sick and tired, for having paid nearly 1000$ for a phone that still is on Android Nougat 7.0. If we are lucky some will maybe get Oreo in marts, but more likely first after launch of Samsung Galaxy 9.
I will never buy Samsung phone again for sure. Overpaid switzerknife.
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You only have yourself to blame, should have done your research before you buy a phone, sure Samsung don't haven't the fastest release cycle but this is not something new, you must have a lot money to throw money around willy nilly without doing your own due diligence 1st.

We've had Android phones for eight years. You should know by now which brands release updates faster than others. And Samsung isn't one of them.
That being said, I'm in no hurry to get Android Oreo. Nougat is one of the best Android has ever released, and it's working extremely well on my S7 and S8. Besides, they've been releasing security patches quite regularly, so they can release Oreo whenever they feel is ready.

What on earth gave you the idea that anyone cared in slightest what you think about samsungs release schedule, moreso what you plan purchasing or not purchasing (as the case may be)
Seriously i want to know so that i can hopefully make them stop.
Maybe a mod will see this and grant my second place wish, which is to lock this thread as not only does it not ask a question or answer one, it has no positive value whatsoever.

Sorry man people are right ! Samsung is not the fastest to give update but they aways bring the upadate for example oreo will be out at the end of february if you dont like to wait costom roms wit oreo as many as you like in here.....

Why when they do reviews they never complain about Bloat and no Updates?
It is like no reviewer has a clue..... S7, S8, S9
You get one update maybe 6 months after it is released. Yes Oreo is out 9 months after it was released, good luck getting the next release after Oreo.
You do not want any Samsung Apps .... good luck disabling them.
Me I am going with the next Pixel Phone I have had it with Samsung.

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What on earth gave you the idea that anyone cared in slightest what you think about samsungs release schedule, moreso what you plan purchasing or not purchasing (as the case may be)
Seriously i want to know so that i can hopefully make them stop.
Maybe a mod will see this and grant my second place wish, which is to lock this thread as not only does it not ask a question or answer one, it has no positive value whatsoever.
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Why would you respond if you didn't care? ?

To be honest, for myself, having the newest Android isn't a problem.
I prefer having a phone with good overall hardware and processing capabilities. Also, so far, nothing very important comes to android oreo.
For instance, I prefer having a S8, 700~$ android nougat phone with Samsung Dex capabilities and great camera rather than having another brand, 500-600$ish android oreo phone with mediocre camera and hardware.

Exactly! There's so much to enjoy the S7 and S8 with Nougat.

I have oreo on my s8 and there isnt really a whole lot new, some, but not a lot.

I researched heavily into update releases, I originally bought the Sony XZ1 Compact with Oreo as Sony are supposedly really good at updates and to be honest they arent bad but the default Oreo software on those phones is seriously flawed with constant reboots on a number of exchanged devices. I ended up with Samsung as for the price they are ok, not super slow but not super fast and I've got a great little phone too.
Pixel 2 was a lot more expensive at the point I upgraded but if not Id have gone for that purely because of the updates.
My only disappointment with my S8 is the curved screen which looks great but serves no real purpose and inhibits the use of glass screen protectors. I now have to use a bulky wrap around case or take a big expensive risk. If it had a flat screen it would have been easy to get a screen protector for it. Oreo is great and im waiting for the final release too but I already have the beta and would be happy with Nougat too if I wasnt in beta.

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