real root might be a thing?? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Seen this over at the s8+ forums. Hopefully the devs here could make use of it one day
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/looks-real-root-getting-closer-t3703987

Step 1 for root- buy a rootable phone.
Step 2 for root- profit.

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[Q] A Request and Warning from Evo owner

First I am coming across product threads to request some information. As stated in my post, "I" am an Evo owner and are pretty well versed in rooting procedures flashing etc. It is my second hobby having rooted eight Evo's and de-facto maintaining them for friends and co-workers. I'm somewhat a flashaholic. However, my wife owns an Epic and recently has asked me to root her phone. Being so involved in the Evo community I really haven't had the time (or desire) to get immersed in a whole new system. So because of my procrastination, I would like to ask two simple questions and I will figure out the rest. For the Epic:
1. What is the quickest, most fool proof way to root and get permanent "S-on"?
2. What are a few of the most popular ROMs/kernals in use?
(I have a full evening to read and get this done, but reading through all the post will take a week so pointing me in the right direction would be a great help. Plus I don't want the OTA pushed to her phone and be locked out for weeks until a new exploit is found).
Now for the warning. I see many asking "what if I accept the OTA and I am rooted"? A warning from what happened with the Froyo update for the Evo. Those who accepted the OTA for the Evo were without root for nearly a month because a new exploit had to be discovered. The first root procedures were long and difficult (no one click roots here, the learning curve was pretty steep). Eventually easier exploits were found and posted but in the long run, accepting the OTA simply was not worth it. The funny thing is I had the official Sprint OTA (rooted) running five hours after it was released! So hold your horses if you are rooted but just itching to accept the OTA. You WILL lose root and it may be a while before you get it back. One of the manufacturers goals is to patch the root exploits and make it as difficult as they can to root it again. A rooted version of the OTA almost always pops up within 12 hours after release.
Thanks in advance for any replies and good luck, congratulations for the long overdue update!
There are only a few ROM choices at the moment as most chefs/devs were waiting for Froyo and source before developing for the Epic.
Samsung uses a proprietary RFS file system. If you plan on flashing one of the RFS based ROMs, use this One-click to install CWM and root-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388
If you plan on going with ext4 file system, use this One-click root and CWM installer-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612
Bonsai is a very nice/popular ext4 ROM.
Also, I suggest you familiarize yourself with Odin(Samsung flashing utility), as you might need it if something gets borked along the way.
aburgthing said:
First I am coming across product threads to request some information. As stated in my post, "I" am an Evo owner and are pretty well versed in rooting procedures flashing etc. It is my second hobby having rooted eight Evo's and de-facto maintaining them for friends and co-workers. I'm somewhat a flashaholic. However, my wife owns an Epic and recently has asked me to root her phone. Being so involved in the Evo community I really haven't had the time (or desire) to get immersed in a whole new system. So because of my procrastination, I would like to ask two simple questions and I will figure out the rest. For the Epic:
1. What is the quickest, most fool proof way to root and get permanent "S-on"?
2. What are a few of the most popular ROMs/kernals in use?
(I have a full evening to read and get this done, but reading through all the post will take a week so pointing me in the right direction would be a great help. Plus I don't want the OTA pushed to her phone and be locked out for weeks until a new exploit is found).
Now for the warning. I see many asking "what if I accept the OTA and I am rooted"? A warning from what happened with the Froyo update for the Evo. Those who accepted the OTA for the Evo were without root for nearly a month because a new exploit had to be discovered. The first root procedures were long and difficult (no one click roots here, the learning curve was pretty steep). Eventually easier exploits were found and posted but in the long run, accepting the OTA simply was not worth it. The funny thing is I had the official Sprint OTA (rooted) running five hours after it was released! So hold your horses if you are rooted but just itching to accept the OTA. You WILL lose root and it may be a while before you get it back. One of the manufacturers goals is to patch the root exploits and make it as difficult as they can to root it again. A rooted version of the OTA almost always pops up within 12 hours after release.
Thanks in advance for any replies and good luck, congratulations for the long overdue update!
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One-click root as linked above is the fastest way. It's also stickied at the top of the forum. The one titled " Samsung Epic 4G Wiki - CLICK HERE AND USE THIS BEFORE POSTING".
We've been running leaked FroYo for months, and root was not an issue. Kernels compiled from the OTA source have not had root issues either.
I too am an Evo owner and was flashaholic until I found myn's Z with the SBC kernel and DT's a2sd with Davlik running on SD. With that said, I also own a Epic and have switched back and forth due to the GPS bug and no DT a2sd. I've finally settled on something that works though. I've used Superoneclick universal root since it's extremely easy, tried all of the roms until I settled on Truly Epic Rebirth 1.5 with EXT4 support since it's the only one that gave me consistent GPS (I use GPS alot being in Medical sales) and then I used the one click odexer tool to speed it up and reduce my Dalvik cache footprint. No DT a2sd but I have offered tkirton $50 to port his app over so I can use it on my epic (Just waiting on him when he has time).
I am new to android as the Epic is my first android phone. The easiest root option I have seen is the one click 2.5.5 in dev section. For roms I can't offer a suggestion but would wait until 2.2 drops. And for the warning all of the leaks were rooted with the same one click method. So unless they did something drastic rooting will not be an issue after the update. Plus I am sure the devs will have prerooted roms out within a few hours of the release.
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I have an Evo and an Epic. Everyone here seemed to answer your question already but I wanted to inform you there is no "S-OFF" with the Galaxy S series. That security feature is only apart of HTC Android phones as far as I know. A simple "OneClickRoot" is sufficient for full access to the system.
Thanks for all your replies. I guess it's time to get busy!

Easy root

Superoneclick has been updated for the atrix finally!:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I know there's other methods and haven't tested it on my phone but thought some of the "noobs" might wanna take a look

[Q] Root

What advantages do u get by rooting your android devices?
Sorry to ask such a noob question bought my first tablet couple of days ago, had a desire s a couple of months but still a complete beginner with android, only ever been interested in pcs
Well, there are a few items it will allow you to do.
1. Load a custom ROM.
2. Theme.
3. Run root enabled apps.
4. Install Mods.
But root in it self is not needed unless you have a valid need. You should not root your device just because someone else is. If you have a need to do it, then by all means, do it.
yeah I ain't gonna bother doing anything til I learn more about it, just been reading the forums and seen people talking about and wondered what the advantages were.
Thanks for your reply

Question on stock root

I got my S4 on release day and I have been really reluctant to root because I am happy with the way the phone is. But now I am tempted to root for 2 reasons. I want to be able to use every app in the multi window view and to be able to move stuff to the SD card.
So my question is....If i just root my phone but dont put and rom or recovery on it what would I need to do if Android or Samsung released an update? The update would not work if I was rooted correct? Can someone link me on the process I would need to do to be able to install such an update?
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
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chris_marsh said:
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
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Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
Based on my limited knowledge, it is possible that if you take OTA, you may not be able to root again (if the OTA patches that root exploit). Hopefully the awesome Devs on here will be able to find another exploit, but it is possible that you may not be able to re-root.
jbarresi19 said:
Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
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Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
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chris_marsh said:
Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
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Very good point in not waiting around for an OTA...they do take long as hell to push out....and I will ask in the QB King thread to see how OTAs work with that root process...Thanks so much

first Android phone - Galaxy S5 G900I

Hi all,
Just got my first Android phone (migrated from iOS to Windows Phone, now giving this a try).
It's a 2nd hand S5. Australian, Optus. Not sure if sim locked.
I reset the phone, and fully updated it (to 6.0.1)
It's got a truck load of bloatware on it, so I'd like to "fix" it. A mate pointed me here, but I really don't know where to start.
Ideally all I want is a completely clean OS, sim unlocked. Just a clean slate.
Can someone please point me in the right direction?
just root it, install titanium backup, grant it root rights and uninstall all the [email protected] you dont want. Welcome to the smartphone fray btw! If my reply didnt make sense, there are tons of tutorials that describe what i said to do, or i can get FAR more detailed. I just fear spending 20 minutes typing stuff that people already know
youdoofus said:
just root it, install titanium backup, grant it root rights and uninstall all the [email protected] you dont want. Welcome to the smartphone fray btw! If my reply didnt make sense, there are tons of tutorials that describe what i said to do, or i can get FAR more detailed. I just fear spending 20 minutes typing stuff that people already know
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Step 1 : Root it! Thanks.
There seems to be about 1000 ways to root it, though. Is this thread the "best" way?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648
BrisbaneJack said:
Step 1 : Root it! Thanks.
There seems to be about 1000 ways to root it, though. Is this thread the "best" way?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648
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no, that thread advises on usign towelroot. this one advises on cf autoroot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2737724

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