[Q] Root - Thrive General

What advantages do u get by rooting your android devices?
Sorry to ask such a noob question bought my first tablet couple of days ago, had a desire s a couple of months but still a complete beginner with android, only ever been interested in pcs

Well, there are a few items it will allow you to do.
1. Load a custom ROM.
2. Theme.
3. Run root enabled apps.
4. Install Mods.
But root in it self is not needed unless you have a valid need. You should not root your device just because someone else is. If you have a need to do it, then by all means, do it.

yeah I ain't gonna bother doing anything til I learn more about it, just been reading the forums and seen people talking about and wondered what the advantages were.
Thanks for your reply

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If you could spare a little time this morning I would appreciate it a bunch!

Hello everyone, my name is Cody and I just joined this forum today. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs and got me the ATT band Nexus One. I love it and I have done a lot of research regarding rooting this phone. I have never rooted a phone before and this is my first android device! I made up my mind (after spending hours and hours researching) to root my N1. The advantages are great and after using my N1 for a week and really getting to know my phone I want to get into flashing ROMS etc.
This leads me to my request. I am sorry if I am in the wrong place, but I was wondering if someone that has experience in rooting (preferably with the ATT Nexus One, if that even matters) the N1 would take a bit and maybe shadow me in the process. I know that is a lot to ask and again I am sorry. I just want to make sure I do this right and that I am doing everything that I need to do. I have read that it can take a few hours so I have all the time in the world this morning. I don't know what would be easier but I have a blackberry lying around that I could call someone or if that would be weird I am open to suggestions. I don't need someone to hold my hand through the process just be there if I have any questions. I am open to all kinds of help (email, PM, chat, etc)
I have a Macbook (early 2008 edition, if that even matters) My nexus one is is Firmware version: 2.1 -update1 (you probably knew that), Baseband version: 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2, Build Number: EPE54B, Kernal Version 2.6.29-01117-g4bc62c2 android-build apa26 #1.
I dont know if you need this info but I have read that you need to flash the radio to the right version so I was writing this to see if I have the right one. I would like to do this without messing with the radio (I dont really feel like bricking this gorgeous piece of machine) I do know that I should never remove the battery. If I am missing anything please let me know I am very patient and want to do this right. I havent downloaded the things that I need just yet but I can do that. If someone would maybe let me know the latest Cyan Mod. (Oh I should of mentioned for now I would just like to root and flash the newest stable Cyan)
I know this is a lot to ask and again I am really sorry (especially if this is in the wrong area to post this) Even if you don't have the time to shadow (I dont blame ya) I would appreciate any info that you have the time to spare. Thanks again guys and I look forward to meeting you all!
Cody
I'd wait until you have a reason for doing so...
At least you have the latest Radio and won't have to mess with that... just read up the posts with directions to unlock the bootloader and go from there.
I have done some research and would love to unlock the extra RAM as well as run custom ROMS (I would like to try out the Desire ROM for sense)
You pretty much seem to be capable of rooting. Do you have the guides for rooting. They work on att nexus so it doesn't make a difference. The latest cyan is 5.0.5.3 I believe, and can be download from his website. However If you go to the developing forums you can click on his rom by Cyanogen, And not any others that say his name. You will then see a download link in the post. But for now just do the whole rooting process. It should take you under 30 minutes. Its very easy. Just go for it. Don't worry about bricks. Hasn't happened yet. But if anything pm me your Gmail if You wished to get more detailed help. Im typing from my phone so can't get into much detail for now. Sorry.
Edit: The roms however such as Cyan already unlock the extra ram.
uansari1 said:
At least you have the latest Radio and won't have to mess with that... just read up the posts with directions to unlock the bootloader and go from there.
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Great, thanks for the info that is one of the questions I had that was unanswered even though I have done a lot of research. Is there any good beginner (mac) walkthrus on this site? I am searching right now, but just thought I would ask. Thanks again for your help.
angermeans said:
I have done some research and would love to unlock the extra RAM as well as run custom ROMS (I would like to try out the Desire ROM for sense)
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GEE, I wonder where someone could find a simple and easy to follow rooting guide / a guide for Sense! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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google is your friend.... you're going to run into things that everyone else assumes/knows and you'll want to be able to find answers rather than waiting on someone else to answer a blog post.
One quick thing before I get started (again, thanks for all you guys for helping me) I am going to be doing this on my macbook running Snow leopard version 10.6.3 is there going to be any problems I am going to run into? Do I need to download any drivers on top of the three programs I am to download (ie. Amon recovery image, google apps, and of cyanogen). I just want to make sure I am getting all this correct before I start
i got the over under at 3 days on this guy posting something along the lines of "You bastards bricked my phone, FIX IT!"
angermeans - you will find that users of this forum are not very tolerant of requests such as yours when the information you seek is easily available on this forum.
Really - don't be afraid, read up, follow the tutorials exactly, and you will have yourself a nicely customized phone in no time.
Or a very expensive paperweight. Kidding...
angermeans said:
Hello everyone, my name is Cody and I just joined this forum today. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs and got me the ATT band Nexus One. I love it and I have done a lot of research regarding rooting this phone. I have never rooted a phone before and this is my first android device! I made up my mind (after spending hours and hours researching) to root my N1. The advantages are great and after using my N1 for a week and really getting to know my phone I want to get into flashing ROMS etc.
This leads me to my request. I am sorry if I am in the wrong place, but I was wondering if someone that has experience in rooting (preferably with the ATT Nexus One, if that even matters) the N1 would take a bit and maybe shadow me in the process. I know that is a lot to ask and again I am sorry. I just want to make sure I do this right and that I am doing everything that I need to do. I have read that it can take a few hours so I have all the time in the world this morning. I don't know what would be easier but I have a blackberry lying around that I could call someone or if that would be weird I am open to suggestions. I don't need someone to hold my hand through the process just be there if I have any questions. I am open to all kinds of help (email, PM, chat, etc)
I have a Macbook (early 2008 edition, if that even matters) My nexus one is is Firmware version: 2.1 -update1 (you probably knew that), Baseband version: 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2, Build Number: EPE54B, Kernal Version 2.6.29-01117-g4bc62c2 android-build apa26 #1.
I dont know if you need this info but I have read that you need to flash the radio to the right version so I was writing this to see if I have the right one. I would like to do this without messing with the radio (I dont really feel like bricking this gorgeous piece of machine) I do know that I should never remove the battery. If I am missing anything please let me know I am very patient and want to do this right. I havent downloaded the things that I need just yet but I can do that. If someone would maybe let me know the latest Cyan Mod. (Oh I should of mentioned for now I would just like to root and flash the newest stable Cyan)
I know this is a lot to ask and again I am really sorry (especially if this is in the wrong area to post this) Even if you don't have the time to shadow (I dont blame ya) I would appreciate any info that you have the time to spare. Thanks again guys and I look forward to meeting you all!
Cody
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Dude, you can do it yourself. It isn't all that difficult. Moreover, there are so many guides available in this forum. Just search it and you'd be good to root your device yourself....
Ok so I got the phone rooted and unlocked and I have downloaded the latest Cyanogen ROM. I am using a Mac and from what I can see I have to put the downloaded (Latest Cyan mod and google features) on the root. I do that and when I hit flash zip from sdcard I get the error E:No zip files found.
Could this be because my mac is auto unzipping the .zip?
angermeans said:
Ok so I got the phone rooted and unlocked and I have downloaded the latest Cyanogen ROM. I am using a Mac and from what I can see I have to put the downloaded (Latest Cyan mod and google features) on the root. I do that and when I hit flash zip from sdcard I get the error E:No zip files found.
Could this be because my mac is auto unzipping the .zip?
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No need to unzip, after you download the .zip files just open finder, find them and then drag them over to your SD card.
whoops, didnt read the last message. obsolete!
I just want to say that I owe you guys a big thank you for all your help today. I went in a newbie and came out five hours later still a newbie but with a rooted nexus one with the latest cyanogen mod build. I am really sorry that I posted this in the wrong place and I am so glad that there are good people that tolerated my "newbiness" I learned a lot today and I am very happy with my decision. This was the first time that I have ever rooted a phone and I can say that I know quite a bit more than I did before. I look forward to spending a lot more time on this forum so one day I may help others out the way you guys have helped me.
Signed a very happy Nexus One owner.

root privilage: is really nice to have?

Hi guys!
Can you please explain me why to get root privilage to the Wildfire? What can I will do with that privilage? Any cons?
Yeah... I also read so many guides about root privileges but I still can't understand exactly if it is good to have it or not...
Someone could explain to noobs like us exactly what is it for?
Thank you!
kalitros said:
Yeah... I also read so many guides about root privileges but I still can't understand exactly if it is good to have it or not...
Someone could explain to noobs like us exactly what is it for?
Thank you!
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I dont know exactly, but its for "enabling" you to do stuff that HTC dont want you too/they think is risky. For example, overclocking need root to work, and overclocking can damage your phone, and why would HTC want that? And other stuff like Market enabled for countries that arent allowed to have payed apps.
You basicly do what your not allowed too, I think. Experts, correct me if im wrong
Normaly it is good to have root access, altough a normal user doesn't gain anny profit from rooting it. But with root access you can, by example:
- install certain applications that need to place/modify files deep in your phone, like vpn connections, certain backup programs,..
- gain access to the international market
- install a different ROM. In case you don't know it (and forgive me if you do), a rom is the OS of your phone. Istalling a different ROM is like installing windows 7 on a computer that has windows vista
- ...
So you can custemize your phone as you would like it, and chance anything thats on it. The only problem (apart from the risk you are taking, like locking yourself out), is that you loose your product waranty..
In principle you should be able to unroot you phone, but i'm still wondering if you can make the phone dutch again (the language i bought it in), and if they realy can't notice that the phone has been rooted. So if you guys know the answer to that question, i'lld be happy to hear it ;-)
Hope that i'm a bit right, i'm for shure not an expert myself..
Erwin

[Q] Does rooting change the appearance ofmy phone in any way

HI Guys,
Im a bit of a newbie on the rotting front.
Ive done some reading up on rooting that seems pritty simple and i get what it does BUT if i root my phone will it change its appreance in any way or the way it works by default if i dont change any thing. As the only reason i want to root my phone is to get rid of the ****ty apps that come on it.
also if i root it can i update to gingerbread?
All answers welcome
clenchy said:
HI Guys,
Im a bit of a newbie on the rotting front.
Ive done some reading up on rooting that seems pritty simple and i get what it does BUT if i root my phone will it change its appreance in any way or the way it works by default if i dont change any thing. As the only reason i want to root my phone is to get rid of the ****ty apps that come on it.
also if i root it can i update to gingerbread?
All answers welcome
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see....this is a very common asked question,
if you root your phone by propc method Link, it will give you a gingerbread theme.
but if you root your phone directly, then you will have same appearance, only there will be a Super User Permission app.
and you asked about gingerbread ROM, you wont get it now.
bcoz there is no custom ROM for it. developers are working hard to get it. so you need to wait for some time.
rooting is absolutely safe if you follow each step carefully.
i will recommend you to use this guide. Link
hope you succeed!

Problems with the root!

Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!
You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.
Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.
Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
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Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks
You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
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OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.
I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!

A Newbie needs Help?

Hi Guys,ive had my A500 for a couple of weeks now and i love it -------- im a Tablet/Computer DUMMY, can you PLEASE tell me what is "ROOTING" ?
I ask as ive read a lot about it on here and wonder if i should do it.
I will give you a different view then some I would imagine. My answer is do not bother with "Rooting".
In short, it gives you access to the files you would not normally see or need on a normal usage basis.
I would suggest you continue to use the A500 as is with out rooting it until you either find the device simply does not function as you want, or you continue to read the threads and decide you wish to try it out.
Having said that and is found in another thread simply rooting is not dangerous. But, I would say if you are new to computers/tablets that little value would be added to your experience so simply enjoy your A500.
Thankyou for your reply
install a file manger from market
install the apk from the list in this link
if you are on 3.1 install version 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
once you downloade the file click and install the apk from you file manager
install acer recover installer from market
open the app and click install recovery rom 1.3 thor something
reboot to recovery and install what ever rom you like
Rooting grants you access to system files you would not normally have access to.
If you don't know what it is, or don't know what the risks are, I wouldn't recommend doing it ... But I can't stop you from rooting
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
rooting
This gives you access to operation system files. Rooting your device is a must to get access to advance setting and change the way your tablet functions. First some reasons to not root
1.you avoid your warranty
2.you make your system easily available for mistakes to cause it to no longer being usable.
reasons average users root
1.can install advance control apps
2.can do complete backups thou not really need if you are not root access
3.hacks like the Netflix fix.adding ad-hoc support for tethering to phone
DO NOT ROOT UNTIL YOU DONT HAVE TO ASK THERR SIMPLE QUESTIONS
With that said all the answers are here in this forum.thanks to all the wonderful developers and advanced users.
Good luck. Empower yourself for a better android experience.
The blonde geeky chic
Thanks Guys and Gals----------think i wont bother at the moment,i will just spend more time learning about my Tablet!
cyberma007 said:
install a file manger from market
install the apk from the list in this link
if you are on 3.1 install version 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
once you downloade the file click and install the apk from you file manager
install acer recover installer from market
open the app and click install recovery rom 1.3 thor something
reboot to recovery and install what ever rom you like
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What are you talking about? You should read the question & previous comments before you go & post up a how-to..
But if he want to do it, this would help
I am sure sooner or latter he will!
I don't want to be mean or anything, but your "tutorial" is kind of hard to understand ... And there already are thousands of tutorials on how to root.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S running a custom rom made of Rainbows, Unicorn Hair, and Pixie Dust.
Oh dear im sorry if ive upset people it was not my intention---------------
BUT thankyou for the "HOW TO " Im a newbie as i said and needing as much help as i can get with my A500 and yes im sure as i learn more i will want to "Root"
the merits of the root
For me, the root brought netflix, not sure if there is a way to get it yet without root. Yep, use my tab with netflix while i run my 5 miles in the gym (ok i walk most of the way, enough to see an entire movie, or email or whatnot. Worth the price of the tab right there.
leiko49 said:
For me, the root brought netflix, not sure if there is a way to get it yet without root. Yep, use my tab with netflix while i run my 5 miles in the gym (ok i walk most of the way, enough to see an entire movie, or email or whatnot. Worth the price of the tab right there.
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Not the only thing that a root can do
Sent from my magical HTC Wildfire S.
While I am not a dev, I have spent a great many years around *nix systems. Rooting, in itself, is not difficult nor dangerous. The danger is in the new abilities to modify system parameters which should be left alone by those without sufficient knowledge. Acer has provided a utility to allow for system restore and some backup abilities which should be sufficient for most new users. With android, as with any OS, knowledge is power. I usually suggest new users gain knowledge about the system before tampering with root.
I am new to the acer community but some of you may have seen me on the nook color or huawei s7 forums and I am starting development work on the webos forums. As I said before, I am not a dev (yet) but I believe everyone should understand a concept before blindly rushing into the fray.
I will get off my soapbox now and go play. Enjoy your new acer...
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