Hello, experienced developers, I want to ask, how much RAM, CPU, GPU do I need for real development? I currently have Asus Laptop With 4 GB RAM 2.4 GHz processor (can be Overclocked to 3.2 GHz) GPU Intel HD Graphics, and External Geforse GTX 1050! If You think I lie, search on Google and you will find the way how to add extra GPU on Laptop.
i once read a article about creating your own android rom needs atleast 8 gb ram.?
laurens227 said:
i once read a article about creating your own android rom needs atleast 8 gb ram.?
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Hmmm! That's interesting!
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Hmmm! That's interesting!
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I would recommend about 16 GB of RAM. Otherwise it wont be really effectiv
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I would recommend about 16 GB of RAM. Otherwise it wont be really effectiv
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Okey! And how much storage you recommend?
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Okey! And how much storage you recommend?
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1TB is good but you can also use 500gb
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1TB is good but you can also use 500gb
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Well, then i shoud buy external hard drive!?
If you consider that I successfully built AOKP on my C2D laptop with 3GB of RAM and 160GB of 5400rpm HDD than your laptop for sure will build also(if you will know((or learn)) to build).
But can you tell me what model of processor you have? Since some low-power Celeron's and Pentium's are somehow slower than a High-End C2D for laptops.
But I would reccomend mostly to just buy a VPS (if you don't afford one, just buy a Jenkins server, just how I did.)
If you know how to use it it is very useful. You can pause/continue/edit the build from anywhere as long as you have some internet connection and as from my opinion it's worth all is money! This is what I use now for building(except MIUI, that is built through PatchROM alternative, what isn't supported by Jenkins, so if you have more money just buy directly a VPS, you can do anything from it with a VNC connection, I belive so.)
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If you consider that I successfully built AOKP on my C2D laptop with 3GB of RAM and 160GB of 5400rpm HDD than your laptop for sure will build also(if you will know((or learn)) to build).
But can you tell me what model of processor you have? Since some low-power Celeron's and Pentium's are somehow slower than a High-End C2D for laptops.
But I would reccomend mostly to just buy a VPS (if you don't afford one, just buy a Jenkins server, just how I did.)
If you know how to use it it is very useful. You can pause/continue/edit the build from anywhere as long as you have some internet connection and as from my opinion it's worth all is money! This is what I use now for building(except MIUI, that is built through PatchROM alternative, what isn't supported by Jenkins, so if you have more money just buy directly a VPS, you can do anything from it with a VNC connection, I belive so.)
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What about miui?
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What about miui?
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As I said, I'm out of country until 7 December. Can you wait a bit more?
XTutorials said:
As I said, I'm out of country until 7 December. Can you wait a bit more?
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Yeah, I can wait... I understand you
XTutorials said:
If you consider that I successfully built AOKP on my C2D laptop with 3GB of RAM and 160GB of 5400rpm HDD than your laptop for sure will build also(if you will know((or learn)) to build).
But can you tell me what model of processor you have? Since some low-power Celeron's and Pentium's are somehow slower than a High-End C2D for laptops.
But I would reccomend mostly to just buy a VPS (if you don't afford one, just buy a Jenkins server, just how I did.)
If you know how to use it it is very useful. You can pause/continue/edit the build from anywhere as long as you have some internet connection and as from my opinion it's worth all is money! This is what I use now for building(except MIUI, that is built through PatchROM alternative, what isn't supported by Jenkins, so if you have more money just buy directly a VPS, you can do anything from it with a VNC connection, I belive so.)
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Thanks for information! I am learning how to build, it is not the same as pro building like surdu does! I have Intel Core i3-6006U I don't know if it is enough!
RootingPro-18 said:
Thanks for information! I am learning how to build, it is not the same as pro building like surdu does! I have Intel Core i3-6006U I don't know if it is enough!
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It is pretty good. Much better than my C2D. So it should build ROM's and kernels, if you know how, of course.
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http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151160&partner=adwords&gclid=CK-wwLHhyo0CFRWOEgod-UHMMA
will i be able to resist
Vista running on 64mb of RAM? Surely some mistake.... That would be painful to use.
Its a dual boot device... for WM6 it uses 64mb of ram.... but for vista its 1 GB.... only thing i cant figure out is how to run WM6 if the Intel A110 (dothan) is not a Arm processor.... Emulate WM6???
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Its a dual boot device... for WM6 it uses 64mb of ram.... but for vista its 1 GB.... only thing i cant figure out is how to run WM6 if the Intel A110 (dothan) is not a Arm processor.... Emulate WM6???
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I've heard that mentioned before, but there is no mention of it in the description on the Expansys website.
Key Features
- 7-inch widescreen display
- 30-gigabyte hard drive
- QWERTY keyboard
- Microsoft Vista Business OS
- Windows Media Player 11
- Tri-Band UMTS/HSDPA
- WiFi and Bluetooth 2.0
etc...
Let's watch this space...
If this thing doesn't come with Athena specs on the PPC side of things it'll be a waste of time for die hard PPC users!
It should have at least 128 if not 256MB RAM, and as for the CPU..we'll just have to wait and see...HTC haven't released anything of late or ever that wasn't fit for purpose.
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it can be true?
as long asThis UMPC-like device will run Windows Vista Business and come with Microsoft Office.
It will have 64 MB of RAM plus 1 GB DDR2 microDIMM, 128 MB of ROM, and a 30 GB hard drive.
specs found dont know if totally factual
If the vista bit can access the internet and is reasonably quick cpu wise its gonna be hard to ignore
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If this thing doesn't come with Athena specs on the PPC side of things it'll be a waste of time for die hard PPC users!
It should have at least 128 if not 256MB RAM, and as for the CPU..we'll just have to wait and see...HTC haven't released anything of late or ever that wasn't fit for purpose.
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I'm hoping the final specs are impressive. I have my credit card ready for this one. Since I have two pockets I figured Athena in one and Shift in the other. LOL
I can't wait for the final specs. I really hope it comes with built in GPS, etc.
I knew about the Shift before i got my Athena.
Its funny but I thought at the time I bet i end up getting that phone/mini laptop thingy.
If this can do what the Athena can and is more powerful to boot, i cant see my self NOT getting it!
If it can play Proevo 6 Online over HSPDA that would be perfection !!!
http://www.wirelessinfo.com/content/CTIA-2007-Video--The-HTC-Shift.htm
head of america HTC talking about the shift
well i saw the specs on a video on youtube when the were showing a demo of it.... seems that it is using a intel processor as shift was announced on IDF.... using A110 ( dothan @ 800Mhz ) and intel 945GMC....
i doubt the specs for the pda side will match Athena as it only uses 64mb of ram and i think it should be an emulated WM6 as A110 is built on the X86 architechture..... Ha vista for a phone...... i wouldnt want
that.... For all you knoe it hangs the very moment someone calls..... =D....
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well i saw the specs on a video on youtube when the were showing a demo of it.... seems that it is using a intel processor as shift was announced on IDF.... using A110 ( dothan @ 800Mhz ) and intel 945GMC....
i doubt the specs for the pda side will match Athena as it only uses 64mb of ram and i think it should be an emulated WM6 as A110 is built on the X86 architechture..... Ha vista for a phone...... i wouldnt want
that.... For all you knoe it hangs the very moment someone calls..... =D....
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its not a phone its designed to be ultraportable laptop...
as you can see its 7" i dont think anyone will remotely think of using that as a phone
well it does come with the feature... doesnt it??? anyway 800mhz for vista.... wouldnt that make performance very slow...?
probably... but if u run it slim im sure it would be fine ...
besides im pretty sure u can use a dif os on it like linux
i thought it was supposed to be a 1.2 processor
as for not using as a phone the Athena is pretty much unusable as one as well unless u use bluetooth headset which u would have to do with the shift
Shift and Shangri-la are NOT one and the same phone.
Shift only runs vista. Shangri-la runs both Vista and WM6. They also look different visually.
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Shift and Shangri-la are NOT one and the same phone.
Shift only runs vista. Shangri-la runs both Vista and WM6. They also look different visually.
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according to most of the websites i have seen they are!
maybe theres two different specced machines?
It's under £800 here -> http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=DDCFA00F-7469-4EA2-BECB-AAECD7EAD4F9
But no release date?
OFFICIAL SPECIFICATION, PRICE AND AVAILABILITY TO BE CONFIRMED
quoted from the site so who knows what it will really cost?
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-atrix-dock-150-available-first-at-best-buy
Cheaper than i thought.
wow. that's great news! Much cheaper than I thought..I was expecting it to be in the $200-250 range. Now the only question is how much this phone will cost outright (no contract) .....
was bout to post this
this is really good news
I'm guessing some of the price will be offset by the actual handset price. I hope but doubt it will be the standard pricing that we are use to, probably $100 more I'm guessing.
Price makes sense really considering the laptop dock is just a screen, keyboard and trackpad. No expensive internals to worry about, the Atrix has that covered
since the laptop dock got no cpu or other hardwares.
can i run webtop OS on phone screen? i want my streaming stock quotes or level II quote running on java applets!
much better then i thought
Considering the Atrix has enough power to run Windows 7, if they can get it to THAT in the dock, it'll be perfect. And if it can't? Still worth it, I'll totally buy it. As of this moment, I can't see myself buying anything else.
good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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Well, in case it fails you've still got the Citrix Receiver
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good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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Good point, though two things:
- Windows 8 will run on ARM, and it'd take almost as long to hack and truly pimp out this laptop dock as it will to see a beta of Windows 8
- The rumors of an ARM version of Windows 7 have been gaining steam rapidly lately. Considering netbooks with less power than the Atrix have run it, the possibility is there.
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Well, in case it fails you've still got the Citrix Receiver
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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Citrix, at least what we use at work, suffers from poor latency issues, and a few other bugs. For what we use it for, it really sucks. I'll ask one of our IT guys tomorrow and get some more details. We could be running an old version, or old hardware. When we talked about expansion, we were told point blank that we couldn't do it with Citrix. And that was some pretty simple stuff we wanted...
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I'd be really happy, If I could install Android Honeycomb and use it in Webtop mode (in Laptop Dock). Maybe it'd need synchronization between apllications from Atrix Android and Webtop mode Android. It'd be pretty, pretty cool.
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Citrix, at least what we use at work, suffers from poor latency issues, and a few other bugs. For what we use it for, it really sucks. I'll ask one of our IT guys tomorrow and get some more details. We could be running an old version, or old hardware.
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Strange, it seems to work well for this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WzeIGZKW_Y#t=1m07s
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I'd be really happy, If I could install Android Honeycomb and use it in Webtop mode (in Laptop Dock). Maybe it'd need synchronization between apllications from Atrix Android and Webtop mode Android. It'd be pretty, pretty cool.
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Even more logical would be to have the device simply be running Honeycomb, and use the new Honeycomb UI when attached to a large screen, and the standard phone UI for the small screen. Then there wouldn't even need to be any synchronization, it would all just be android apps. But you would maybe need to tweak the Honeycomb UI to be workable for mouse/keyboard and/or the IR remote instead of multitouch; that might be why Motorola didn't wait for Honeycomb and go for that approach.
Rastor, thanks for that! We're probably on a very old version then lol. Nothing we oo with Citrix is anywhere near that fast. And it's nothing to do with connection speed, because our connection is top of the line. I'm quite impressed after that video. Thanks!
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Glad to see a reasonable price. Looking like a great device.
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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It's really good software that costs an arm and a leg. Over $900 dollars for the licenses, and I think that's just 5 licenses. :/
I wish there was an equally as good alternative for windows, for significantly cheaper.
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I have to apologize. I talked to a couple IT guys yesterday, and they told me our issue with Citrix was old hardware. We updated those servers not too long ago, and I got to play with it (usually not something I have to do). Looks to me like it will work quite well for remote access. My apologies for the bad information.
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- The rumors of an ARM version of Windows 7 have been gaining steam rapidly lately. Considering netbooks with less power than the Atrix have run it, the possibility is there..
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If you are referring to Atom netbooks those are actually more powerful than Tegra 2 despite being single core.
Even if Microsoft ports Windows 7 to ARM next to no programs will even run on it.
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It's really good software that costs an arm and a leg. Over $900 dollars for the licenses, and I think that's just 5 licenses. :/
I wish there was an equally as good alternative for windows, for significantly cheaper.
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google "Remote Desktop Services"
Thinking of getting one of these as a mess-around device as it has good community support and is cheap. Are they still in production, or is it just left over stock?
I myself have an archos A70s for nearly 2 years now and it is still a good device for some things.
But it is in no way capable of the things you need now.
If you want samething cheap why not get something like "Ainol Novo 7 Elf II" and get a real dualcore device that has 1 GB of ram and comes with ICS.
You can get that for less than 100 stearling on ebay.
And the Ainol community is growing every day ( and is active atm ).
ATM there are so many cheap r3066 or 8726-mx out there that i personaly wouldn't decide for the Archos.
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I myself have an archos A70s for nearly 2 years now and it is still a good device for some things.
But it is in no way capable of the things you need now.
If you want samething cheap why not get something like "Ainol Novo 7 Elf II" and get a real dualcore device that has 1 GB of ram and comes with ICS.
You can get that for less than 100 stearling on ebay.
And the Ainol community is growing every day ( and is active atm ).
ATM there are so many cheap r3066 or 8726-mx out there that i personaly wouldn't decide for the Archos.
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Sounds stupid but it was either this or the Arnova range. The Arnova range has little to no dev support but this tablet does, and is available at £130 in the UK. It's just a tinkering device that I don't really have to worry about making non-functional because I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Although, what draws me to the Arnova is the more powerful hardware.
Arnova and more Powerfull?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Ainol-N...=UK_iPad_Tablets_eReaders&hash=item27c9cce1e3
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Arnova and more Powerfull?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Ainol-N...=UK_iPad_Tablets_eReaders&hash=item27c9cce1e3
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It's not Arnova. It's Ainol.
Also, are they still being made? Do Archos provide fixes?
What tasks does it struggle with?
I just want a hacking device.
Hacking? As far as I know this device is good for development and hacking, a developer should answer your question. Anyway, if you are good developer (or developer at all) you are welcome to join the community. I dont know if the device is stil being made but the firmware support by the manufacturer is stopped as it seems.
@mr.fast:
That link was for you to compare the "Arnova is the more powerful hardware" to something that really is.
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@mr.fast:
That link was for you to compare the "Arnova is the more powerful hardware" to something that really is.
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Ok'ay, thanks...
I am still unsure if they are still being manufactured. Archos don't seem to sell them directly anymore but Carphone Warehouse in the UK have them for £150.
It's either this or an Arnova 10 G2. Is the Rockchip RK2918 more powerful than the OMAP in the Archos 101 G8?
It's just that the Arnova doesn't have any or little dev support and has more restrictive firmware.
Thanks.
Arnova users often come here and ask for help, so I think Archos community is better.
I'm selling my A101 G8 16G....
PM me for details. It has the ACC H264 codec already installed and paid for too. Nice case and HDMI cable.
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PM me for details. It has the ACC H264 codec already installed and paid for too. Nice case and HDMI cable.
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Sorry, I live in the UK.
Looks like it's been removed from the Archos website.
Australian-based firm, Intermatrix, have announced the first Ubuntu Tablet hardware, due to start shipping in October 2013 (http://www.ubuntutablet.com.au).
A 7-inch tablet has only been announced at the moment; plans to produce a 10-inch tablet are under way.
Specs are similar to what Canonical are currently developing/targeting their 7-inch model on: 1.5GHz Quad-Core Cortex A9, 1GB RAM.
That was rather quick!.. I wanna see System76 do a tablet tho.
given your username intermatrixau, I am assuming you work for said company.
So, firstly, great job on being first - if I didn't already have a Nexus 7 i'd preorder, but it's not really a big enough change in specs for me to consider change at this point - I would get major wife agro and hammered by the minister for finance, who happens to be the same person.
So, question I have is - why not go for 2gb ram or more? as it is a full OS when docked, I wouldn't want it sluggish in any way opening up desktop applications. Although that said, I have not actually used Ubuntu Touch on my N7 yet so not sure if more will make much difference
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given your username intermatrixau, I am assuming you work for said company.
So, firstly, great job on being first - if I didn't already have a Nexus 7 i'd preorder, but it's not really a big enough change in specs for me to consider change at this point - I would get major wife agro and hammered by the minister for finance, who happens to be the same person.
So, question I have is - why not go for 2gb ram or more? as it is a full OS when docked, I wouldn't want it sluggish in any way opening up desktop applications. Although that said, I have not actually used Ubuntu Touch on my N7 yet so not sure if more will make much difference
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Yeah, 2GB would be nice.
We'd actually originally intended to release the 7-inch tablet with 2GB RAM, but unfortunately, our hardware guys reckon the chipset won't take a single 2GB chip (and there's no room for a second one!). As far as we can tell, at the moment, there's no 7-inch tablets on the market with 2GB RAM (yet).
RE: the "full OS when docked"; according to Canonical, they're targetting desktop convergence for 10-inch tablets and above.
Awesome
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RE: the "full OS when docked"; according to Canonical, they're targetting desktop convergence for 10-inch tablets and above.
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I didn't know that, I don't like that and I don't get WHY?! If a 7'' tablet's specs are enough to run a full desktop OS when docked, why won't they allow it? :/ Does anyone know WHY?
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is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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*Sigh*... Yes, yes it will....
Sounds wicked! :laugh:
is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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Ubuntu has been ported to arm for several years now.
Microsoft Canada will sell Razor phone together with Galaxy 8(sold in all Microsoft stores)
You have to ask yourself. S8 and now Razor both Qualcom 835 with USB C. All one core demos Windows on ARM seen is on Qualcom 835 presumably on a phone motherboard...........
Windows support wifi, BT, USB, LTE via 835 what do you need? A phone app- SKYPE????
How hard to port on a phone. Windows 10 runs on almost any old hardware you can get your hands on..........So if the demos are already on 835 then you have to ask yourself again.........
I'm not a developer but maybe they could shed some light on this question. How hard so you think it will be to port Win 10 to OP5 when it will be released supporting Qualcom 835 probably later this month?
For hobbyist use? Probably not that hard. The only concern would be the motivation and the free time
For commercial use - useless! Microsoft will never go back there! IMHO under this CEO they are done with mobile devices.
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For hobbyist use? Probably not that hard. The only concern would be the motivation and the free time
For commercial use - useless! Microsoft will never go back there! IMHO under this CEO they are done with mobile devices.
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I'm not so sure, I think they are playing with words, Windows Mobile is dead sure. But Windows 10 on a Mobile Device is another issue............
Let me guess...
You have to ask yourself
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Ask what?
S8 and now Razor both Qualcom 835 with USB C. All one core demos Windows on ARM seen is on Qualcom 835 presumably on a phone motherboard...........
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So?
Windows support wifi, BT, USB, LTE via 835 what do you need? A phone app- SKYPE????
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What are you trying to point to?
How hard to port on a phone.
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Port what?
So if the demos are already on 835 then you have to ask yourself again.........
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Don't stop, continue your idea!
I'm not a developer but maybe they could shed some light on this question.
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So so so?
How hard so you think it will be to port Win 10 to OP5 when it will be released supporting Qualcom 835 probably later this month?
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That's the deal! Why your question placed at the down of your post? We don't know. Probably ez, probably not.