Hey everybody, here to try and convince anybody who hasn't to try switching to F2FS to improve your N6 experience. I'd been running darkrom for the past 8 months or so on ext4, and performance wise the phone worked but that was about it. The interface was jaggy and closing/opening apps and getting to the camera was consistently slow which is what I've experienced on most roms I've tried over the past few years. A couple days ago I decided to start from scratch and switch the file system over to f2fs. The process is relatively simple, grab a f2fs enabled TWRP version, clear all data on your phone (backup to a computer or something first if you have stuff you want to keep), use recovery to convert data and cache to f2fs, adb over your new f2fs compatible rom (darkrom/lineage are) and gapps and start it up.
After switching over I'm loving the N6 all over again. Opening and closing apps is consistently quick. No jank in the launcher or accessing the notification bar, no delays when hitting the power button to bring the screen back on. While the phone was doing initial installs of all my apps it was actually usable, previously on ext4 while apps installed it was almost impossible to use the phone it got so slow. On the latest darkrom the phone runs cool and battery life seems to be great at the moment.
Anyway, hope that helps some of you out! If you haven't tried the f2fs switch I would highly recommend it. I had done this in the past on my OG Nexus 7 which made it usable and is why I thought to try it again on my N6, glad I did!
I ran PureNexus for a while with no encryption using EXT4, then switched to F2FS after hearing all the hype.
I'm in the opposite camp to you @gambit07, I think it's all hype. My phone performs no better or worse with the same apps & data with F2FS vs EXT4. The only reason I still keep it F2FS now is because I can't be bothered wiping again.
Are you sure you weren't running encrypted when you had all these slowness issues? I certainly saw a massive improvement going from encrypted to non-encrypted (EXT4 both times).
Everyone else: By all means give it a go, but it's just a slightly different filesystem, some of the magical qualities attributed to it aren't possible.
muppetmania said:
I ran PureNexus for a while with no encryption using EXT4, then switched to F2FS after hearing all the hype.
I'm in the opposite camp to you @gambit07, I think it's all hype. My phone performs no better or worse with the same apps & data with F2FS vs EXT4. The only reason I still keep it F2FS now is because I can't be bothered wiping again.
Are you sure you weren't running encrypted when you had all these slowness issues? I certainly saw a massive improvement going from encrypted to non-encrypted (EXT4 both times).
Everyone else: By all means give it a go, but it's just a slightly different filesystem, some of the magical qualities attributed to it aren't possible.
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Huh, that's unfortunate. No I removed encryption when I first got my N6 and have never used it. I've been running my N6 on ext4 roms for the last 3 years and I've never noticed this much of a difference in smoothness of the OS. I actually didn't think much of it either which is why it took me so long to try it, but what pushed me was remembering how much better my nexus 7 performed after I switched a few years back. It went from literally not usable due to how slow it was, to usable. Anyway I would encourage others to give it a shot. The only other thing I could see being the reason for the increased performance is maybe the partitions getting formatted. I doubt that would make a difference but that's the only other variable that's changed
Well, I would think that a format will certainly help by itself, though a wipe should be just as good - but how often do we wipe internal storage?
Another thing to remember is that speed drops significantly if the partition is almost full - try always to keep at least 20% free.
I haven't tried f2fs on this phone, and haven't noticed a difference on other phones. From what I read, you should get a marginal improvement on typical use cases.
Also consider that f2fs has only recently stabilized. A plain 3.10 kernel may still have a few bugs left, so it's better if the dev has backported fixes from newer versions. People running f2fs on unpatched 3.0 or 3.4 kernels have seen occasional data corruptions.
After reading this thread I have searched F2FS on Nexus 6 and read some XDA and Reddit posts, seems like it doesn't make any performance difference, I'm on S.i.X v1.6 (Oreo), its working fine, if anyone using F2FS on Oreo ROM, please share you experience.
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After switching over I'm loving the N6 all over again.
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Would you mind sharing your ROM, Kernel and setup details
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Would you mind sharing your ROM, Kernel and setup details
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Sure! I'm on darkrom 7.1.2, the 9/24 nightly, link below. Gapps are included in his post and it's the stock kernel which is a modified lineageos kernel. Lineage supports f2fs out of the box. Steps were as follows.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-dark-rom-t3580215
-Backup current data to external drive
-Fastboot flash f2fs enabled TWRP
-Wipe all partitions in TWRP
-Format Data and Cache partitions as f2fs in recovery
-ADB sideload Rom/Gapps/Magisk/Whatever
-Reboot
Hope that helps! Still working great on my side
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Well, I would think that a format will certainly help by itself, though a wipe should be just as good - but how often do we wipe internal storage?
Another thing to remember is that speed drops significantly if the partition is almost full - try always to keep at least 20% free.
I haven't tried f2fs on this phone, and haven't noticed a difference on other phones. From what I read, you should get a marginal improvement on typical use cases.
Also consider that f2fs has only recently stabilized. A plain 3.10 kernel may still have a few bugs left, so it's better if the dev has backported fixes from newer versions. People running f2fs on unpatched 3.0 or 3.4 kernels have seen occasional data corruptions.
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Yeah, and the cells on internal storage degrade over time as well, but I am never consuming over 80% regardless. I had wiped my data partition a couple times prior to this in the last few years, and have wiped system/cache countless times, so I don't think that accounts for the change in my experience. The only reason I posted is because this is now my second device (after my Nexus 7) where I've switched and seen a noticeable positive improvement. I know for me it's a real change as my Nexus 7 went from actually unusable to being relatively usable after the switch. I had tried countless roms and full wipes on that device with no difference in latency prior. The Nexus 6 isn't as big a change but I can definitely feel the difference
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Sure! I'm on darkrom 7.1.2, the 9/24 nightly, link below. Gapps are included in his post and it's the stock kernel which is a modified lineageos kernel. Lineage supports f2fs out of the box.
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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Cool, let me know how it works! Curious to see if anybody else feels the difference or if it's just me
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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ElementalX does not support F2FS.
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Cool, let me know how it works! Curious to see if anybody else feels the difference or if it's just me
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Downloading 20171010 build, not sure how to check if there is any performance boost, because its already working perfect on current ROM I have recently switched to APFS (High Sierra) on my MacBook from HFS+, there was not any visible performance difference but of course it is new and better file system
Edit: It feel more responsive now, thanks Gambit
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Downloading 20171010 build, not sure how to check if there is any performance boost, because its already working perfect on current ROM I have recently switched to APFS (High Sierra) on my MacBook from HFS+, there was not any visible performance difference but of course it is new and better file system
Edit: It feel more responsive now, thanks Gambit
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Awesome, glad to hear it! Yeah I just feel like performance is more consistent. Less hang ups, apps open at a consistent speed. It just feels more fluid
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Awesome, glad to hear it! Yeah I just feel like performance is more consistent. Less hang ups, apps open at a consistent speed. It just feels more fluid
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For me, best part about DarkROM is Google Assistant on any screen, even when screen is off. I miss Oreo settings and notification / quick tiles, everything else is great.
I've used F2FS on various devices and while it does provide slight benefits in benchmarks, there's no real world benefits IMO.
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I've used F2FS on various devices and while it does provide slight benefits in benchmarks, there's no real world benefits IMO.
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Yeah I don't use benchmarks at all. It's real world use where I notice a difference
I'm back on S.i.X Oreo, honestly feel no difference in performance or smoothness, even it's little better on battery
I'd suggest that you're experiencing the placebo effect, or at the very least, benefits of clear flash memory. I've always found that my phone is faster after I completely format all the memory.
I've been using F2FS for a few months now. It's not a placebo effect. The phone is more fluid, less freezes, and stable performance even after downloading and using a hand full of apps
I have been using F2FS with the latest DU ROM and Sigma Kernel, clean flashed but I don't see any difference at all. In fact I had a couple of freezes and a reboot as well which never happened to me before using this combination. But maybe this in not F2FS related at all.
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I have noticed that my phone has become quite slow. My Nexus S is a contract phone and I think I have had it for almost 2 years. When i first got it - it felt snappy. Around that time, I did things like install kernals, custom roms, bootloader unlock etc. Then I went back to the stock rom.
I dont mind wiping the memory etc. As long as the important stuff is backed up like messages and contacts - everything else can go. I can reinstall when needed. So my question is - what do I have to do to regain the performance. Should I do a full reinstall? or install a custom ROM? or should I get a new phone (my contract ends this month)
Thanks
well, if you get the possibility, I would definitely go for an different phone. I don't know your budget, but I would go for a quad(/dual)-core phone, as mobile software seems to become heavier on a faster pace than before. I advise you this, because else your next phone will feel like your nexus s after two years, but than in one year. Of course this is just a prediction, so do whatever you wish to do
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
Androyed said:
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
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I also recommend this combination if you just want preformance. :good:
However, in my opinion, ROM performance is device dependent. What's fast for another may/may not be fast on your device. So be sure to try them all when you got time
ej8989 said:
I also recommend this combination if you just want preformance. :good:
However, in my opinion, ROM performance is device dependent. What's fast for another may/may not be fast on your device. So be sure to try them all when you got time
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Sure its device dependant, that is why I asked in this forum. Surely all the nexus s's are the same?
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Sure its device dependant, that is why I asked in this forum. Surely all the nexus s's are the same?
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Well yeah, but the fact that person A gets 4.5 hours on screen time with the same ROM/kernel and exact same settings won't mean you will also get 4.5 hours on screen time. The same goes for smoothness.
A question like "what's the fastest ROM/kernel combination" is very difficult to answer. But I think you can't go wrong with the rasbeanjelly/marmite combination. I suggest you make a NAND backup and try the compilation I posted to see for yourself.
I've been troubled by this issue of gradual performance degradation in android custom Rom/kernels ever since I came to android from a non-smart phone. I've asked about it before, but nobody really had a good answer for exactly why it was happening. It is likely related to something in custom kernels though, that's my gut feeling. The more reboots and freezes I'd get, the worse the system would run. Like you said, starting over from scratch always helps, but it really sucks having to do this regularly. My search for long term stability has brought me to cm 10.0 stable. I use the stock kernel, and don't mess around to much with advanced or performance settings. You won't get nearly the performance or battery life of other configs, but I've found the system runs just as smooth on day 60 as day 1. I actually have come back from a galaxy nexus to my ns4g cause of how useable the phone is, and how much I like the smaller size. So I disagree with the earlier poster who said to look for a new phone. I think you can definitely use this phone till the next android is version comes out, provided you don't use a lot of resource intensive apps.
Good luck in your search.
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Its not that money is an issue, but the problem is that if I do get a new contract I will be stuck in that for atleast 2 years with any new smartphone. The thing is that the nexus S is perfectly fine for my mobile needs. I just wish it could be a little snappier, as one of you have said already when getting a new phone its much better to get one that can be with you for 2 or more years - therefore it makes sense to get a good one. I will most likely wait for the new phone from samsung that uses the ARM big.LITTLE chip.
I just checked my phone and it seems I must have relock'd it when putting the stockrom on. I have not done this custom rom stuff in a while, not sure if the scene has changed much. Is the rooting process using adb recommended for mac's?
If you have many apps installed, it can be a quick performace boost if you uninstall all the apps you don't use or don't need. Keep the apps you use regularly, delete those you don't remember when was the last time you used them. I had some games and utilities which I froze in Titanium Backup (same as uninstalling except you don't lose any data and it can be reverted with one tap), since then my phone feels as new.
Androyed said:
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
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New build with latest rasbean source & latest marmite kernel 7.3CM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36674772
On the road with my Nexus S...
I think the rasbeanjellybuild MDO on 4.1.2 is faster. 4.2 was very laggy on my device. There are not so many functions in this rom. But that's my opinion. Kernel: marmite of course and the tweaks from brainmaster are for smoothness very well too.
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viperfx07 said:
I have noticed that my phone has become quite slow. My Nexus S is a contract phone and I think I have had it for almost 2 years. When i first got it - it felt snappy. Around that time, I did things like install kernals, custom roms, bootloader unlock etc. Then I went back to the stock rom.
I dont mind wiping the memory etc. As long as the important stuff is backed up like messages and contacts - everything else can go. I can reinstall when needed. So my question is - what do I have to do to regain the performance. Should I do a full reinstall? or install a custom ROM? or should I get a new phone (my contract ends this month)
Thanks
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I was in a similar position, except for the contract. I wiped everything, installed CM10 stable and uninstalled a couple dozen apps I was not using. Performance is ok again. Some battery issues, but I hope that with a new battery I can have the phone for some more time.
Hey,
I'm running Jellyshot with marmite 7.2.1 at 1.3GHz OC.
For me it's the perfect Rom / Kernel combo. The setup is pretty stable, incredibly fast and I got around 2-3 hours battery time, which is about as much as twice as stock.
I personally wait for the next Nexus device, because even today my nexus S with this setup can compare to 80 % of the smartphones in my vicinity.
Jellyshot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023699
Marmite Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719775
Androyed said:
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
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i dont know if i really tried it all but i think i lost count on flashing roms ...and i always go back to this awesome combo,... i can safely say its the best i ever had too...:fingers-crossed:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out. Since you guys have flashed so many, does it not get tiresome to wipe and reinstall everything? Is there an easier way?
What is your process for flashing a rom/kernal nowadays?
viperfx07 said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out. Since you guys have flashed so many, does it not get tiresome to wipe and reinstall everything? Is there an easier way?
What is your process for flashing a rom/kernal nowadays?
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I'm not really attached to my apps and data. The only thing I hate is asking everyone for their Wi-Fi passwords again. But I could easily back them up. I just don't because I'm lazy. If you want, you can back up pretty much anything with Titanium Backup.
My process? I first download everything I'm going to flash, throw it all in some folder on my sd card (most of the time I just keep it in the download folder). Then I don't make a NAND backup. That's right. #YOLO. No, just kidding. Like I said, not really attached to any setup at all. If I flash a new ROM, that means I don't care about my previous setup at all. But a NAND backup doesn't really take that long, and it's really easy to restore, so I would just do it if I were you.
I always restart after flashing. If I have to flash 5 things, I restart 5 times. Don't know if this helps, but someone taught me this once, and I've been doing it ever since. After I've flashed everything, I connect to Wi-Fi, download one or two apps I frequently use (whatsapp, my favourite browser), and then that's it. All other apps I download only when I need them.
i downgraded from 4.2.1 to apex 4.0.4
Now i have more then 170 mb ram free with most of my apps open!!!
with matr1x kernel cfs it seems to be great at gaming
I'm a little surprised to see so many NS users complaining about poor performance on 4.2.1. A lot of people seem to have become convinced that a single core cpu isn't enough to handle Android smoothly anymore, but I think they're just yearning for unachievable WP levels of UI sheen or they're flashing the wrong zips.
bed's Marmite kernel has been so well-optimized since its 7.1.6 incarnation that even a dirty-flashed ROM laden with 200+ apps feels usable. Having said that, it really does help to do things as cleanly as possible: full wipe, manual format of system and data, wipe cache and dalvik, reboot recovery; flash your ROM, flash gapps, and flash your chosen kernel once only (resist experimenting with different versions), then fix permissions.
For about the past week and a half I've been using tchaari's 4.2.1 build of Slimbean + Marmite 7.1.7, without an overclock, and it's remained consistently smooth and responsive well beyond 100 hours of uptime.
One thing which has in the past slowed my phone to a crawl is the SD card. There are some flaky versions of ClockworkMod which will leave corrupt blocks on the external storage after creating a NANDroid backup - Media Scanner hates this and so do the apps living on your SD. I've experienced this a couple of times and reformatting the SD is the only way to restore performance. Not sure if people are still suffering from this without realising the cause, but I now refrain from making NANDroids and just rely on Titanium Backup and everything seems to run smoothly.
Anyway, install Slimbean, flash Marmite 7.1.7 (or try out 7.3), and don't for one instant consider purchasing a fragile Nexus 4 or any other oversized power hungry droid.
my nexus s felt laggy since updated to ICS, then jellybean came along and made it even worse . At last I just put CM7 in and the phone is smooth as butter again
Odp: Regain performance
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my nexus s felt laggy since updated to ICS, then jellybean came along and made it even worse . At last I just put CM7 in and the phone is smooth as butter again
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Is your internet browser as smooth as in jb too?
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I've been running Mimicry 1.5 for quite a while now (and very happy with it) but I'm interested in the Slim Bean thing; it looks pretty cool. I'm not clear on the advantages though (if any). Can someone fill me in?
Well we are talking jb vs ics for one, I would suggest making a nandroid and try it out, if you don't like it restore nandroid and the worse thing you can say is you wasted 20 min of your life...
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I agree to the post above.
I've tried both roms and I prefered the SlimBean Rom It is very smooth and personally I've had some problems with mimicry. For me it is the best JB Rom I've ever tried
Good luck
I've been on mimicry (every release) since this new rom few days ago, and i didn't have so many problems with it: some casual hot reboots, or really little and stupid issues, same as slimbean, but we have to consider this is the first release.
There aren't big differences on usage between those roms ( except for OS features ofc); BUT, this rom i found it slim for real: smooth like mimicry at least, faster on response and better battery life.
So, i agree with the users above: if u liked mimicry take a nandroid backup, and give slimbean a shot!
Mimicry 1.5 is faster
you can try to install 15 same aplication on you phone and than you can see wich one is faster Mimicry 1.5 or slim bean
running right now slim bean,
was very happy at the beginning with all the features and the speed. But after restoring my backup (70 apps with mybackup-pro) the SlimBean Rom is getting sometimes really slow. Not always, but browser is sometimes not reacting or I get system FC or the phone is not waking up or apps are not responding.
With CM10.1 v21 I had installed 200+ Apps, the phone was a little bit slower but responding to all my actions and phone buttons.
Hopefully flinny integrates in v23 a few SlimBean features.
Tried slimbean but unfortunately I can't seem to get it to run smoothly - things start hanging and frequently memory seems very tight, even when I'm running nothing but the core gapps with it. Darn shame too, I'm quite fond of many of the look&feel updates.
I'm not altogether sure what I could do to tweak things further; I have system and data partitions formatted to ext4, made sure I did a full format/wipe, immediately did the switch to 240dpi before touching anything... I'm not quite sure how to tell what all's being loaded beyond looking at Running Apps, maybe I could trim things down if I fiddle with the "Performance" option in settings, but I don't know a lot about that. Seems odd that Play Music is running all the bloody time.
Mimicry 1.5 runs very smooth for me - Google+ and Facebook used to hog up memory but Greenify seems to have taken care of that.
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Tried slimbean but unfortunately I can't seem to get it to run smoothly - things start hanging and frequently memory seems very tight, even when I'm running nothing but the core gapps with it. Darn shame too, I'm quite fond of many of the look&feel updates.
I'm not altogether sure what I could do to tweak things further; I have system and data partitions formatted to ext4, made sure I did a full format/wipe, immediately did the switch to 240dpi before touching anything... I'm not quite sure how to tell what all's being loaded beyond looking at Running Apps, maybe I could trim things down if I fiddle with the "Performance" option in settings, but I don't know a lot about that. Seems odd that Play Music is running all the bloody time.
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Try limiting the number of background processes (under developer options) to 2; may be a total illusion, but I think it made things much better for me.
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Try limiting the number of background processes (under developer options) to 2; may be a total illusion, but I think it made things much better for me.
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I'll give that a shot, thanks!
Hrm. Oddly, I've just noticed the Camera app is missing. I somewhat suspect (but haven't tested) that it might have been left out of 6.2, as one person in the Development thread mentioned it missing but others have not, and I'm guessing he loaded 6.2 straight up (as I have) and most folks upgraded from 6 to 6.2.
Is there a way to backup/restore one's Settings? I find that's the tedious part about reflashing - I bet there's a tool for it I'm just unfamiliar with.
i think there is an option in mybackup to save system-settings and restore them later. and i use nova-launcher, which allows me to save all the homescreens but without the widgets.
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Hrm. Oddly, I've just noticed the Camera app is missing.
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Ah ha. Fixed when I did a FORMAT of System and Data instead of just a wipe of them (using 4EXT Recovery Control). Another rookie mistake on my part...
I try a lot of roms, now I using SlimBean. Fast, modern and without big errors.
good question!
I wish to know too. I use to run mimicry, but since a few month I can't get tired of Venom viperZ. Since the 1.x version, I have absolutely NO issue.
The 2.0 is really fast and usable.
I"ll maybe try slimbean if there's so much good review on that one.
Just for an update from myself, I tried SlimBean 6.2 and ended up having a significant slowdown issue after several days; long pauses on most items and Google Search in particular became so slow as to be unusable. Oddly there was also a significant delay when starting up the Torch from the widget, which happens to be one of my most-used functions of the phone. 6.2 also uses Hangouts rather than Talk, and my hatred for Hangouts still burns like an unquenchable fire. Still, looking at the slimbean.net site the torch issue at least seems to have been fixed, so if blk_jack is kind enough to bless us with a new SlimBean ROM I'll probably try it again.
I have been using Flinny's CM10.1 Andromadus test build 24 for several days now but I am starting to see a slowdown there too occasionally, again especially with Google Search. Generally though I'm very fond of it, good chunk of free memory most times and it even runs Ingress pretty well, which is the one game/app I run that pushes my phone to its very limits.
I noticed someone mention "kbeezie's data swap mod" in the SlimBean thread and plan to investigate that when I have time, though I suspect I may need something faster than my class 4 32gb card (class 10 ones are pretty cheap now, but I'm somewhat poor, so).
I'm not gonna cry if I have to go back to Mimicry 1.5, which still has my love, even if the new JB builds are shiny and have some pretty cool UI enhancements.
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Just for an update from myself, I tried SlimBean 6.2 and ended up having a significant slowdown issue after several days; long pauses on most items and Google Search in particular became so slow as to be unusable. Oddly there was also a significant delay when starting up the Torch from the widget, which happens to be one of my most-used functions of the phone. 6.2 also uses Hangouts rather than Talk, and my hatred for Hangouts still burns like an unquenchable fire. Still, looking at the slimbean.net site the torch issue at least seems to have been fixed, so if blk_jack is kind enough to bless us with a new SlimBean ROM I'll probably try it again.
I have been using Flinny's CM10.1 Andromadus test build 24 for several days now but I am starting to see a slowdown there too occasionally, again especially with Google Search. Generally though I'm very fond of it, good chunk of free memory most times and it even runs Ingress pretty well, which is the one game/app I run that pushes my phone to its very limits.
I noticed someone mention "kbeezie's data swap mod" in the SlimBean thread and plan to investigate that when I have time, though I suspect I may need something faster than my class 4 32gb card (class 10 ones are pretty cheap now, but I'm somewhat poor, so).
I'm not gonna cry if I have to go back to Mimicry 1.5, which still has my love, even if the new JB builds are shiny and have some pretty cool UI enhancements.
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welcome to android world.
I never seen any android rom that keep his original speed after a while of use.
even on recent devices, such as s3. You should reflash the rom.zip every time your rom is going laggy.
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http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=flounder
BOOT.IMG - link to boot.img for cm12 n9 that does not force encryption . remember to wipe userdata, or will not work.
PA Gapps
Basketbuild Gapps
Yeay!!!! We got it.. :thumbup:
Can anyone post a video of ROM please ?
Does this mean that the cm based roms here for the nexus 9 will be better?
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http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=flounder
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Thanks for this.
tyvar1 said:
Does this mean that the cm based roms here for the nexus 9 will be better?
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Not really, device tree for N9 is extremely similar to mine. Plus it currently has forced encryption.
Installed latest nightly with ElementalX kernel and everything looks good. I like the Expanded Desktop view to maximize viewing screen. Moreover, the options on launcher to show big icons is a plus.
What gapps do they recommend?
Try this version of Gapps http://forum.xda-developers.com/paranoid-android/general/gapps-official-to-date-pa-google-apps-t2943900
Does anybody get trusted face working?
How's the performance of CM12 compared to stock? It made a HUGE difference on the 2012 Nexus 7, so curious if the same on the N9.
Yes, I am also interested to know about the performance and, especially, battery life benefits of CM12 on our Nexus 9. I am refraining from rooting my 5.0.1 stock for the moment hoping that 5.1 finally adresses the governor "issue" in order to get better battery life and less hiccups out of this thing while browsing, but if CM12 delivers already, I might just go all the way and install it right now.
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Yes, I am also interested to know about the performance and, especially, battery life benefits of CM12 on our Nexus 9. I am refraining from rooting my 5.0.1 stock for the moment hoping that 5.1 finally adresses the governor "issue" in order to get better battery life and less hiccups out of this thing while browsing, but if CM12 delivers already, I might just go all the way and install it right now.
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Same here, don't want to reset my tablet for every new rom, but if CM12 offers better performance/smoother experience/better battery I'm willing to switch roms again. Otherwise waiting for 5.1 to be released...
There are sound bugs that the clicking volume like keyboard can't be lowered. Charging is very slow. Performance is comparable or slightly slower than stock Rom.
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Charging is very slow.
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this,right here.
The charging isnt even just slow, its eratic honestly. if i use a 1.2 amp charger it takes over 13 hours to charge. using a 1.8 amp one reduces it to around 8 hours.
Its stable and all, but the charging issue, thats the reason i've decided to go back to stock rom.
I pulled out my old Nexus 6P to use for a day and was shocked and disappointed to find that the 6P runs noticeably smoother than my OP5 despite being an older phone, having a slower processor, less RAM and the fact that I'm using balanced kernel settings on the 6P and more performance oriented ones on the OP5. I'm guessing this is a software issue because based on specs there's obviously no reason the 6P should be smoother than the OP5.
I'm wondering if there are any custom ROMs that people think improve the performance of the OP5 over stock OOS. I am specifically looking for very smooth and fluid performance. I don't care about a bunch of custom features. I'm already using a performance-oriented custom kernel (Blu Spark) that was designed for stock OOS but at this point, I'm considering a custom ROM if that might improve the user experience.
Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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It's not performance oriented at all. I run Dirty Unicorns with the ElementalEx Kernel and the kernel governor is interactive. If I use the interactive governor on the OP5 it results in a very noticeable performance hit. I'm thinking of trying xXx NoLimits ROM but I don't know that it will make a difference. The slight lack of fluidity might be how I perceive the jelly effect in the display --in which case changing ROMs won't help. But NoLimits is OOS based, performance oriented and users generally seem to like it so it might be worth a shot.
I'm back to using the OP5 now. It doesn't really feel laggy at all--but it feels less smooth than my Nexus 6P or the Pixel XL I previously had. It's hard to explain but I do perceive a difference.
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It's not performance oriented at all. I run Dirty Unicorns with the ElementalEx Kernel and the kernel governor is interactive. If I use the interactive governor on the OP5 it results in a very noticeable performance hit. I'm thinking of trying xXx NoLimits ROM but I don't know that it will make a difference. The slight lack of fluidity might be how I perceive the jelly effect in the display --in which case changing ROMs won't help. But NoLimits is OOS based, performance oriented and users generally seem to like it so it might be worth a shot.
I'm back to using the OP5 now. It doesn't really feel laggy at all--but it feels less smooth than my Nexus 6P or the Pixel XL I previously had. It's hard to explain but I do perceive a difference.
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Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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What are you running?
I tried NoLimits ROM. I didn't notice any performance improvement at all which is strange because the entire purpose of the ROM appears to be improved performance. I ended up going back to stock--putting up with the little things that didn't quite work right was pointless if the ROM wasn't at least going to boost performance. I think the dev through too much unnecessary stuff into the ROM--some of which didn't even work.
Try Blu Spark kernel for performance. RX kernel for stability and battery.
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What are you running?
I tried NoLimits ROM. I didn't notice any performance improvement at all which is strange because the entire purpose of the ROM appears to be improved performance. I ended up going back to stock--putting up with the little things that didn't quite work right was pointless if the ROM wasn't at least going to boost performance. I think the dev through too much unnecessary stuff into the ROM--some of which didn't even work.
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Refer to my first post in this thread to see what I'm running.
I also tried No Limits and it was pretty snappy, however it didn't offer as many features as the ROM I am currently on, and that's been the case for anything OOS-based for me.
Not bashing OOS at all, I just find other options available to better suit my needs, feature wise!
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Try Blu Spark kernel for performance. RX kernel for stability and battery.
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I'm using Blu Spark. It does definitely improve performance over the stock kernel. I was hoping to get a little more of a boost but Blu Spark may already provide the best performance I'm going to get without using crazy kernel settings that will eventually burn out the phone. That's one of the secrets to the smooth performance on the Pixel that gets ignored --the CPU is maxed out constantly which provides super smooth performance but also makes the phone run very hot even if you're only looking at emails . And there's nothing you can do about it. There are no alternative governors you can use or settings you can tweak--the phone is intentionally designed so the hardware will burn out.
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Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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I'm going to look into Pure Fusion. Thanks for the suggestion. I know there's no support for custom ROMs so it's good to hear Blu Spark works well with that one.
Try freedom os and any kernel you wish....custom roms will give you better battery life and more featured....more performance ot not than rooted stock...that's Is debatable ...honestly the op5 stock is too optimised and one for the best choices at the moment ...
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Try freedom os and any kernel you wish....custom roms will give you better battery life and more featured....more performance ot not than rooted stock...that's Is debatable ...honestly the op5 stock is too optimised and one for the best choices at the moment ...
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That's the conclusion I'm starting to reach. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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I tried flashing Blu Spark Custom on Pure Fusion and my phone wouldn't boot up. It got stuck at the 1+ Logo. Is there some added step that I'm missing?
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I tried flashing Blu Spark Custom on Pure Fusion and my phone wouldn't boot up. It got stuck at the 1+ Logo. Is there some added step that I'm missing?
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Strange,
1. Are you sure you downloaded the custom ROM version?
2. Are you flashing over another custom kernel?
3. Try clearing the data from any kernel manager app you have and try again
rickysidhu_ said:
Strange,
1. Are you sure you downloaded the custom ROM version?
2. Are you flashing over another custom kernel?
3. Try clearing the data from any kernel manager app you have and try again
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I got it to work but it didn't ultimately matter. Pure Fusion didn't work well with my carrier MintSim. On stock OOS or No Limits I always have full bars everywhere in my apartment. On Pure Fusion I had 2 bars. I clean flashed the ROM twice and triple checked the APN settings but I couldn't get a good phone signal. Everyone I talked to was complaining about the poor call quality so I had to switch back to stock OOS--which is still on the July security patch. Pure Fusion seemed like a good ROM otherwise in terms of being fast and smooth but I couldn't get my phone service to work right for some reason.
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I got it to work but it didn't ultimately matter. Pure Fusion didn't work well with my carrier MintSim. On stock OOS or No Limits I always have full bars everywhere in my apartment. On Pure Fusion I had 2 bars. I clean flashed the ROM twice and triple checked the APN settings but I couldn't get a good phone signal. Everyone I talked to was complaining about the poor call quality so I had to switch back to stock OOS--which is still on the July security patch. Pure Fusion seemed like a good ROM otherwise in terms of being fast and smooth but I couldn't get my phone service to work right for some reason.
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That's very unusual.
Sorry you couldn't get to work because it is indeed a great ROM
I think you have received a defective unit ??! Please contact the customer service and get it replaced maybe ? This phone is extremely fast, I meant the performance is so blazing awesome !
Uhm, this might sound strange, but try to set the animations twice as slow on your OP
The 6p's animations were alot slower than the OP5's.
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I pulled out my old Nexus 6P to use for a day and was shocked and disappointed to find that the 6P runs noticeably smoother than my OP5 despite being an older phone, having a slower processor, less RAM and the fact that I'm using balanced kernel settings on the 6P and more performance oriented ones on the OP5. I'm guessing this is a software issue because based on specs there's obviously no reason the 6P should be smoother than the OP5.
I'm wondering if there are any custom ROMs that people think improve the performance of the OP5 over stock OOS. I am specifically looking for very smooth and fluid performance. I don't care about a bunch of custom features. I'm already using a performance-oriented custom kernel (Blu Spark) that was designed for stock OOS but at this point, I'm considering a custom ROM if that might improve the user experience.
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If you want best performance FreedomOS is the top, but if you want best performance+customization so PureFusion is the top of the top imho
My stock +5 runs smoother than my rooted 6P by a mile.
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Uhm, this might sound strange, but try to set the animations twice as slow on your OP
The 6p's animations were alot slower than the OP5's.
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Would that have any effect on the smoothness of the scrolling on the OP5?
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
I've been trying many roms over the last 48 hours and have come out with some first impressions that may help you. The first rom I tried was resurrection remix, a mod a user made of the official one (downloaded it by accident and thought it was official, upon reading up on it the only difference seems to me armanian translation option or something) and it was OK. I noticed a few issues but it was good but everyone was raving about pixel ex. so I gave that a go. It is less feature packed but smoother, so very noticeable. Not that the other one was bad, but if I exited pubg mobile to nova launcher it was slow af. But was fine. Pixel experience is good. Its fast, fluid and with no issues. I haven't noticed any battery issues on it, definitely better than rr tho. I then heard that frankenrom was good but the download is down. But in the thread I found my favourite edition of the gcam mod for moto g5 plus yet, a very good hdr+ mod by bsg. So with frankenrom not working out I went to firehound. It was rr but a bit slower and overdone visuals. I went to rr again (official latest release this time) and I have to my surprise it was worse than the mod. I also found that it doesn't let my gcam work on it. Then I tried dirty unicorns for its supposed stability but was unimpressed by the light tweaking but still packed feeling (rr roms are good because they feel full of stuff and they are. This had the same feeling but just not as much stuff, not worth it). I'm now back on pixel ex and have no issues. Google photos works fine and both storage options are available. Battery life seems good. But I had some issues when it came to using xposed. After you install the modules and boot back up the screen doesn't display. Maybe the system less magisk might be better. It's almost a deal breaker, I love gboard but can't stand how it doesn't autocorrect in search fields and has made the mod awayscorrect a need for me. And in a rom with very little customisation it's more necessary than ever. But other than that it's great. Also it handles my bsg gcam mod the best so far.
All in all I'd recommend either rr or pixel ex. I'm liking the light and breezy feel of pe for now but will probably be on another rom my this time tomorrow. But check out the gcam it's got the best autofocus out of all the ones I've tried which I hear is a big problem for moto g5 plus owners. It's on the franked rom thread and it's urikill.apk.
I'd you have any more questions ask away, more than happy to help.
Edit: also very potter rom has moto actions, they'd be scrutinised by everyone if they didn't. And fingerprint gestures in the vast majority of roms.
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...
I need to say i had both Nitrogen and Bootleggers at least one week and both were smoothly great. First Nitro then Boot, in that order. But Bootleggers has a few more tweak options. In the other hand, i tried Liquid Remix only one day and was incredible with a lot of tweaks and very fast and smooth ux. Id like to hear some reviews about the three i mentioned.
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I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?
kartiklohia said:
Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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OP?
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for AEX rom...its too good for daily driver and no bugs...almost perfect 64bit 8.1 oreo for Potter
rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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It's an idea but I'm actually tired of dealing with trying to stay updated on modified stock. Everytime there's an OTA, it's a major hassle to update, or I could block the update notification and jump through those hoops to stay outdated which seems silly too. Also, I was holding out because I thought Oreo would be 64-bit, which has proven performance gains, not to mention I wouldn't mind one of the newer gcam builds which will never work on 32bit. Basically, I lost interest bin waiting once I found out the stock rom would never be what I wanted.
I'll also add that every device I've ever owned has run a custom rom (with the exception of a couple of obscure devices which had none available- those were dark times). I'm not uncomfortable deviating from stock, but I'm into stable and not experimental. The Moto stock was so clean however, this is the longest I've ever been on stock with a device capable of custom!
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Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...
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Interested in this one. Loved lineage on other devices I've had. Curious why this option isn't more popular. For some reason everytime someone mentions it, conversation quickly turns to PE.
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But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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Yes, but are there no roms that equate for stability battery and clean ui? Because I've had roms on other devices that improved stability battery and user experience.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm actually not familiar with aex for example!
also last time I checked there were some roms which didnt support dual sim.
Most users dont mind occasional hiccups but no compromise with basic functionality.
You should go ahead with Lineage, its not the most feature packed rom but then one can tailor cook with different mods according to one's taste.
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Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
Edit 2:
This comparison video may also help you a great deal, the owner of the video has put in a lot of effort. Do hit the button if you like the video, my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNJMeXkVIM
I guess I am gonna go with the AEX - AospExtended, best of both the worlds.
Have fun.
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But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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I don't use online storage. I keep my photos in local storage only. So that's not a deal breaker for me at all.
I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??
Fererio said:
I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??
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No ROM is bug free, once u enter modding/flashing world u need to be prompt in trying variety of roms so that u get tailor made experience as per your usage pattern. Try other roms and u decide for urself. Afterall all this comes with a red bold DISCLAIMER.
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Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
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I'd stay away from that tool - I tried it last month when trying to root and most of its steps did not properly work. I ended up doing everything after unlocking bootloader manually
Actually both that tool and the video in that post weren't terribly helpful. Unlocking bootloader isn't difficult enough to need a tool and the video was a generic rom discussion, but details vary by device and he was not talking about the G5+. Im already aware of what the roms are supposed to be, but his findings on that phone might not be consistent with our own.
I do appreciate the response and trying to help, though! So it sounds like now I'm leaning towards lineage simply because I think I can get around the issues preventing me from PE, while still getting the benefits of a clean 64-bit Oreo rom.
one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.
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one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.
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If I were you, I'd backup EFS and Persist both seperately and also along with the entire backup considering how precious these two partitions are.
Another reason I'd like to give you here to make a seperate EFS and Persist backup is for cases where you just need to restore EFS and Persist partitions and not the entire ROM.
Whenever you feel like going back to stock, just restore the entire backup back.
But that's just my opinion.
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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try Arrow rom it doesn't have many options but havr useful rom unlike other roms they are in the place where they should be not consolidated in one place.
And rom is super smooth IMO its more smooth than any other custom rom and everything works smoothly.
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for Havoc OS (By Akhil_dev) without a single thought. I am using is from last 1 month. It is fast and fluid. No need to use any xposed module or anything else for any customization. It has lots of customization options built in.