I pulled out my old Nexus 6P to use for a day and was shocked and disappointed to find that the 6P runs noticeably smoother than my OP5 despite being an older phone, having a slower processor, less RAM and the fact that I'm using balanced kernel settings on the 6P and more performance oriented ones on the OP5. I'm guessing this is a software issue because based on specs there's obviously no reason the 6P should be smoother than the OP5.
I'm wondering if there are any custom ROMs that people think improve the performance of the OP5 over stock OOS. I am specifically looking for very smooth and fluid performance. I don't care about a bunch of custom features. I'm already using a performance-oriented custom kernel (Blu Spark) that was designed for stock OOS but at this point, I'm considering a custom ROM if that might improve the user experience.
Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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It's not performance oriented at all. I run Dirty Unicorns with the ElementalEx Kernel and the kernel governor is interactive. If I use the interactive governor on the OP5 it results in a very noticeable performance hit. I'm thinking of trying xXx NoLimits ROM but I don't know that it will make a difference. The slight lack of fluidity might be how I perceive the jelly effect in the display --in which case changing ROMs won't help. But NoLimits is OOS based, performance oriented and users generally seem to like it so it might be worth a shot.
I'm back to using the OP5 now. It doesn't really feel laggy at all--but it feels less smooth than my Nexus 6P or the Pixel XL I previously had. It's hard to explain but I do perceive a difference.
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It's not performance oriented at all. I run Dirty Unicorns with the ElementalEx Kernel and the kernel governor is interactive. If I use the interactive governor on the OP5 it results in a very noticeable performance hit. I'm thinking of trying xXx NoLimits ROM but I don't know that it will make a difference. The slight lack of fluidity might be how I perceive the jelly effect in the display --in which case changing ROMs won't help. But NoLimits is OOS based, performance oriented and users generally seem to like it so it might be worth a shot.
I'm back to using the OP5 now. It doesn't really feel laggy at all--but it feels less smooth than my Nexus 6P or the Pixel XL I previously had. It's hard to explain but I do perceive a difference.
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Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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What are you running?
I tried NoLimits ROM. I didn't notice any performance improvement at all which is strange because the entire purpose of the ROM appears to be improved performance. I ended up going back to stock--putting up with the little things that didn't quite work right was pointless if the ROM wasn't at least going to boost performance. I think the dev through too much unnecessary stuff into the ROM--some of which didn't even work.
Try Blu Spark kernel for performance. RX kernel for stability and battery.
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What are you running?
I tried NoLimits ROM. I didn't notice any performance improvement at all which is strange because the entire purpose of the ROM appears to be improved performance. I ended up going back to stock--putting up with the little things that didn't quite work right was pointless if the ROM wasn't at least going to boost performance. I think the dev through too much unnecessary stuff into the ROM--some of which didn't even work.
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Refer to my first post in this thread to see what I'm running.
I also tried No Limits and it was pretty snappy, however it didn't offer as many features as the ROM I am currently on, and that's been the case for anything OOS-based for me.
Not bashing OOS at all, I just find other options available to better suit my needs, feature wise!
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Try Blu Spark kernel for performance. RX kernel for stability and battery.
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I'm using Blu Spark. It does definitely improve performance over the stock kernel. I was hoping to get a little more of a boost but Blu Spark may already provide the best performance I'm going to get without using crazy kernel settings that will eventually burn out the phone. That's one of the secrets to the smooth performance on the Pixel that gets ignored --the CPU is maxed out constantly which provides super smooth performance but also makes the phone run very hot even if you're only looking at emails . And there's nothing you can do about it. There are no alternative governors you can use or settings you can tweak--the phone is intentionally designed so the hardware will burn out.
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Interesting that you see a difference, I would probably be of more help if I was having similar issues, but my 5 is ridiculously smooth and snappy.
Maybe give the setup I have a try, if you don't mind straying away from OOS-based ROMs, I'm getting really great fluidity with it!
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I'm going to look into Pure Fusion. Thanks for the suggestion. I know there's no support for custom ROMs so it's good to hear Blu Spark works well with that one.
Try freedom os and any kernel you wish....custom roms will give you better battery life and more featured....more performance ot not than rooted stock...that's Is debatable ...honestly the op5 stock is too optimised and one for the best choices at the moment ...
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Try freedom os and any kernel you wish....custom roms will give you better battery life and more featured....more performance ot not than rooted stock...that's Is debatable ...honestly the op5 stock is too optimised and one for the best choices at the moment ...
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That's the conclusion I'm starting to reach. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Not sure what kind of setup you have on your 6P but it must be something performance oriented for sure, if you feel you are getting better performance from it, compared to the 5.
I'm on PureFusion with blu_spark custom, and fastlane enabled with threshold set to 35.
That combo has given me incredible performance, better than my 6P when I had it, that's for sure.
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I tried flashing Blu Spark Custom on Pure Fusion and my phone wouldn't boot up. It got stuck at the 1+ Logo. Is there some added step that I'm missing?
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I tried flashing Blu Spark Custom on Pure Fusion and my phone wouldn't boot up. It got stuck at the 1+ Logo. Is there some added step that I'm missing?
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Strange,
1. Are you sure you downloaded the custom ROM version?
2. Are you flashing over another custom kernel?
3. Try clearing the data from any kernel manager app you have and try again
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Strange,
1. Are you sure you downloaded the custom ROM version?
2. Are you flashing over another custom kernel?
3. Try clearing the data from any kernel manager app you have and try again
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I got it to work but it didn't ultimately matter. Pure Fusion didn't work well with my carrier MintSim. On stock OOS or No Limits I always have full bars everywhere in my apartment. On Pure Fusion I had 2 bars. I clean flashed the ROM twice and triple checked the APN settings but I couldn't get a good phone signal. Everyone I talked to was complaining about the poor call quality so I had to switch back to stock OOS--which is still on the July security patch. Pure Fusion seemed like a good ROM otherwise in terms of being fast and smooth but I couldn't get my phone service to work right for some reason.
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I got it to work but it didn't ultimately matter. Pure Fusion didn't work well with my carrier MintSim. On stock OOS or No Limits I always have full bars everywhere in my apartment. On Pure Fusion I had 2 bars. I clean flashed the ROM twice and triple checked the APN settings but I couldn't get a good phone signal. Everyone I talked to was complaining about the poor call quality so I had to switch back to stock OOS--which is still on the July security patch. Pure Fusion seemed like a good ROM otherwise in terms of being fast and smooth but I couldn't get my phone service to work right for some reason.
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That's very unusual.
Sorry you couldn't get to work because it is indeed a great ROM
I think you have received a defective unit ??! Please contact the customer service and get it replaced maybe ? This phone is extremely fast, I meant the performance is so blazing awesome !
Uhm, this might sound strange, but try to set the animations twice as slow on your OP
The 6p's animations were alot slower than the OP5's.
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I pulled out my old Nexus 6P to use for a day and was shocked and disappointed to find that the 6P runs noticeably smoother than my OP5 despite being an older phone, having a slower processor, less RAM and the fact that I'm using balanced kernel settings on the 6P and more performance oriented ones on the OP5. I'm guessing this is a software issue because based on specs there's obviously no reason the 6P should be smoother than the OP5.
I'm wondering if there are any custom ROMs that people think improve the performance of the OP5 over stock OOS. I am specifically looking for very smooth and fluid performance. I don't care about a bunch of custom features. I'm already using a performance-oriented custom kernel (Blu Spark) that was designed for stock OOS but at this point, I'm considering a custom ROM if that might improve the user experience.
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If you want best performance FreedomOS is the top, but if you want best performance+customization so PureFusion is the top of the top imho
My stock +5 runs smoother than my rooted 6P by a mile.
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Uhm, this might sound strange, but try to set the animations twice as slow on your OP
The 6p's animations were alot slower than the OP5's.
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Would that have any effect on the smoothness of the scrolling on the OP5?
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Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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As far as performance this phone comes stock with really great performance, really even battery for that matter. However there is not much your going to be able to do to increase performance of apps like messaging, Gmail, etc. Those apps will already be pretty much flawless. As far as battery all you can do without root is the regular stuff like disable GPS, AUTO SYNC, use auto brightness. There are several apps that claim to help with battery. I used to use Juice Defender back a couple years ago. If you root your phone there is much more you can do. Mods, tweaks, roms, custom kernels, etc. Good luck!
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Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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As jcnbama stated its pretty sweet outta the box...but to have an all around improvement performance/battery wise you're gonna wanna root your device and install a custom rom...rooting is much simpler and much safer than on many devices...Mahdi aosp rom seems to give the most stability, performance and extreme battery life in my opinion... Good luck!
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As jcnbama stated its pretty sweet outta the box...but to have an all around improvement performance/battery wise you're gonna wanna root your device and install a custom rom...rooting is much simpler and much safer than on many devices...Mahdi aosp rom seems to give the most stability, performance and extreme battery life in my opinion... Good luck!
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You can call me a fanboy or whatever but I've yet to find any custom ROM that outperforms stock in battery life or performance, especially stability. There are some big trade offs too like audio quality and camera (even on mahdi) which are both deal breakers for me. Sad, since I love stock android but stock ticks every box.
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You can call me a fanboy or whatever but I've yet to find any custom ROM that outperforms stock in battery life or performance, especially stability. There are some big trade offs too like audio quality and camera (even on mahdi) which are both deal breakers for me. Sad, since I love stock android but stock ticks every box.
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Yeah...you would have to be a fanboy to still think stock outperforms aosp in any way...especially Mahdi...benchmarks(which I don't trust to be accurate)show higher...as well as side by side tests of stock and aosp shows how muchs faster tasks are completed...But...at least as far as the g2 is concerned I can see why you love stock...I have been stuck with Samsung's touchwiz ui for my last 3 devices...it was uglyAnd downright overfilled with bloatware...but fully rooted and with a few tweaks I could see myself using stock on the g2...but I still get better stability, performance and battery life on Mahdi than I have experienced on anything hands down
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Yeah...you would have to be a fanboy to still think stock outperforms aosp in any way...especially Mahdi...benchmarks(which I don't trust to be accurate)show higher...as well as side by side tests of stock and aosp shows how muchs faster tasks are completed...But...at least as far as the g2 is concerned I can see why you love stock...I have been stuck with Samsung's touchwiz ui for my last 3 devices...it was uglyAnd downright overfilled with bloatware...but fully rooted and with a few tweaks I could see myself using stock on the g2...but I still get better stability, performance and battery life on Mahdi than I have experienced on anything hands down
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I didn't like it right off the bat. I loved cm 10.2 and I was pretty happy on Mahdi until I played music over Bluetooth. No matter how many audio tweaks and kernel tweaks I made I just couldn't get to sound good. The video camera audio was the same. I can live with the odd random reboot but the sound quality of stock is what sealed it for me.
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I didn't like it right off the bat. I loved cm 10.2 and I was pretty happy on Mahdi until I played music over Bluetooth. No matter how many audio tweaks and kernel tweaks I made I just couldn't get to sound good. The video camera audio was the same. I can live with the odd random reboot but the sound quality of stock is what sealed it for me.
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How long has it been since you tried it?most if not all of these bugs have been fixed...I couldn't use it due to buggyness either...I tried it after the 6-28 release and it was smooth sailing ever since...every update has continued to improve my experience and its my dd at this point...I actually do keep a backup of stock(all bloat removed and lots of optimizations) due to to some features that only come stock...but I have faster 4g and WiFi connectivity using mahdi...don't know why...I guess one could argue good and bad for both here...but I guess since touchwiz from Sammy just wasn't an option for me aosp is what I'm accustomed to...lol
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How long has it been since you tried it?most if not all of these bugs have been fixed...I couldn't use it due to buggyness either...I tried it after the 6-28 release and it was smooth sailing ever since...every update has continued to improve my experience and its my dd at this point...I actually do keep a backup of stock(all bloat removed and lots of optimizations) due to to some features that only come stock...but I have faster 4g and WiFi connectivity using mahdi...don't know why...I guess one could argue good and bad for both here...but I guess since touchwiz from Sammy just wasn't an option for me aosp is what I'm accustomed to...lol
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Its been a while since I tried it. I've been on the cloudy Roms and cloudyg3 is my daily driver now, surprisingly. Running perfect for me anyway. I'll have to give Mahdi another go before android L comes into effect. Its good to know they're perfecting it. The OP's head must be spinning now with all this information.
I have been using custom rom on this device since i bought it and took it out of the box (4-5 months ago).
To be honest and coming from other "superior" device, in terms of performance this device never disappointed me, for me it's like a "diesel car", you'll not have the power that maybe you are able to get whether you have a device powered by a Snapdragon 800-35 series. But this device ever performs very decently in every task, without major troubles.
Today i used my girlfriend's G4 Plus Dual-SIM XT1641 (totally stock, non-rooted, no anything, besides the lot of trash apps/games and Google bloatware that she has installed) and surprisingly i felt it much more "light/fast", for example when scrolling. So, i decided to make comparissions using the so much hated benchmark test (Geekbench 4 specifically, and AnTuTu 3D).
My results were:
Stock Nougat (7.0 June security patch):
Single-core: 742
Multi-Core: 3081
Stock LineageOS 14.1 (without modifications):
Single-Core: 662
Multi-core: 2314
The stock G4 plus did the test 5 minutes more quickly than the other one (mine XT1641 Single-SIM).
Then, i did the same test with AnTuTu, the result was similar, the stock one scored like a 20% better, and ended the test 3-4 minutes first. But the important thing for me was in the graphics test (GPU), honestly the stock one destroyed my device (running 14.1) in terms of graphic smoothness (FPS). The graphics in my device were really slow and i could see this slowdown in real time (running the test in both devices side to side, in the same time) [5/7FPS less than the stock one].
I use LineageOS 14.1 with his stock kernel, as it comes.
The obvious question:
[Question]: Why this happens?
I ask this because in every device that i owned the results were the opposite, i mean: CyanogenMod/LineageOS was pretty superior than the Stock rom (in terms of performance and even in benchmarking tests).
Don't get me wrong and think that i am complaining about the custom rom performance, in fact, i love (and i'm currently using) custom roms. I am just curious about the reasons of these results.
Your opinions are really welcome.
I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.
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I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.
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Definitely that's te way to go. :good:
I can also say that stock is alot smoother than the custom ROMs. Gaming performance is also better and I've even tried asking why custom ROMs gaming performance suffers compared to stock but no one seems to respond
I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.
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I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.
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What games have you tried?.
I've tried bleach brave souls and I get seriously bad lag compared to stock.
Although you are right about stock having bad memory management
yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast
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yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast
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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.
In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??
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In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??
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I am on stock right now, rooted with EX. I obtained the same results as the post (with Geekbench 4). I know that the score isn't really important, anyway, i will use this rom a couple of days, to take better conclusions.
I notice that on stock, I get 5-7 hours of SoT, but on any ROM, even stock aosp, I get 3-4 hours. Quite strange.
I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.
Multi-core: 2330 with Cypheros 7.1.2
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I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.
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Totally agreed, developers like Silesh.Nair, Jleeblanch, vache, and others did amazing jobs here. We are lucky to have devs of that level, because we have ROMs of quality and variety for this device. Thanks for your great opinion.
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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.
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I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.
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I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.
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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.
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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.
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OmniROM, without a doubt. I tried plenty of roms, it's seems to be the only purely AOSP based. This rom performs like the stock one but whit the plus of a better battery life.
The only bad thing about Omni could be that is has not all the features that the LOS based ones offers, like Invicta or RR.
well, that's right. for me stock rom also feels a lot smoother faster and battery life is incredible. best stock software i've seen from motorola. i like custom roms and all the possibilities they bring, and we already have some very stable like invicta, or LOS. but i love this phone on stock (and debloated hehehe)
Simple Question. Got Nuclearom on my phone and am quite happy with it. But I am thinking of switching to DarkRom, Candy or AOSPX. What were you experiences, which performed best etc?
For the g model dark ROM does a good job with the Los thread modem, no call bug, viper works and the delta updates are a great feature too. Battery life is good too.
No lags !!!
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Simple Question. Got Nuclearom on my phone and am quite happy with it. But I am thinking of switching to DarkRom, Candy or AOSPX. What were you experiences, which performed best etc?
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Nuclea. all of the others had performance problems not even fixable with a custom kernel. Some (Lineage, RR) had terrible GPU handling when I used them, but that was like 5 or 6 months ago, so maybe they ironed that out. Thing is, radioactive kernel has a very nicely tweaked governor (when it doesn't break your touchscreen, that is )
I'd say you should backup your current install on an SD card if you want to try something else, because you might as well want to go back. Most other custom ROMs are carbon copies of each other for some reason. For instance, RR looks like AICP, Nuclea like those but with less tweaks... and the difference is mostly the maintainer and the name (usually even the 'goal' of the ROM is the same, to "provide with the best tweakability and functionality while keeping performance best" or something on the lines).
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Nuclea. all of the others had performance problems not even fixable with a custom kernel. Some (Lineage, RR) had terrible GPU handling when I used them, but that was like 5 or 6 months ago, so maybe they ironed that out. Thing is, radioactive kernel has a very nicely tweaked governor (when it doesn't break your touchscreen, that is )
I'd say you should backup your current install on an SD card if you want to try something else, because you might as well want to go back. Most other custom ROMs are carbon copies of each other for some reason. For instance, RR looks like AICP, Nuclea like those but with less tweaks... and the difference is mostly the maintainer and the name (usually even the 'goal' of the ROM is the same, to "provide with the best tweakability and functionality while keeping performance best" or something on the lines).
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Feel you man, Tried Carbon and RR before Nuclea and got disappointed, very slow and buggy in comparison. But DarkPixel looks promising and people are reporting good speeds and more/better features.
Is someone around here who tested DarkPixel with Radioactive Kernel? Or did some other kernel perform better? Or might it even be the best to stick with the Kernel of the ROM? So many options, so few differences :/
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For the g model dark ROM does a good job with the Los thread modem, no call bug, viper works and the delta updates are a great feature too. Battery life is good too.
No lags !!!
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Nice to hear that, might try it out. Any Costum Kernel Attempts or nah?
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Nice to hear that, might try it out. Any Costum Kernel Attempts or nah?
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No, not necessary, the kernel that comes with rom does perform absolutely fine in my eyes. Only modded a bit with kernel auditor, read ahead, no big changes. Viper aroma 2.94 and lawnchair as launcher, just using the black ui, no substratum. The rom is smooth, lagfree and not overloaded with features. For smooth browsing I use the chromium swe
here from xda. Magisk 14 with unified hosts just work fine.
No saftey pass issue.
This are all personal choices of course, but it gives me a good performance.
Overall I find there's very little differences between all the lineage based roms. I use aokp with llama kernel but I may switch again if I can bothered. I use war mod too.
Used all of those ROMs for some time and finally settled with DarkRom. It is stable, fast, got its own color engine, so I replaced substratum with daily issues and never ending updates. Delta updates is another plus. I "customized" it by adding viper4android, Omniswitch and Phonograph music player and that's it. I play with the kernel, but return to the built in one, which is unbeatable smooth.
Hey to all of you Kind enough to take the time out and read this, as we ALL know XDA has been a Community for Android enthusiast from all over the world, I am one of you... I am hoping to get some Honest Feed Back for you Guys that are more incline about the OnePlus 5, so here I go, I just got a GREAT DEAL on my OnePlus 5, its the A5000, i dont know if theirs different model number for thr OP5, i do know the the OP3 & 3T has different Model #'s Cause I had that device as well, So I am Hoping you Guys can Tell Me which " 1 " of these Custom Roms is Best for Stability, Faster Internet, and Data speeds, Pretty much FAST in General, Plus decent in Battery Life as well. Im Looking to Stay as stock as Possible as well with the Original OOS. I am Hoping I can get some Help Here, will Truly Appreciate some Honest Feed Back, Thanks In Advance, and God Bless...
TBH all OOS based or the major ones(freedom os , xXx, Experience os) i have tried have been the almost the same offering battery speed and smoothness in general close to stock .Stock/Official OOS is optimized enough already that been said some kernels do help like i felt the phone a tad snappier with blu_spark and the battery to last a tad longer with Franco and with the new addition of ATK tweaks just flashing that might help you a bit in both aspects of performance and battery. Although I haven't tried flashing the atk tweak so i will inform you how much of an improvement is there.
Now trying the major oos roms i could say - xXx gives the most tweakablity compared to any oos roms and up-to-date tweaks so if you want fast updates on tweaks like modded youtube, Magisk and additions like google camera and dialer i would say go with xXx
Freedom os i guess i thought was a bit more performance based yet like a said difference is not noticeable
both oos roms offer debloating
Now if you want the same performance but stock os i would recommend trying pure fusion it provides stock os with oos camera
Freedom OS and use franco kernel. His improvements on everything about the stock experience is way better. The man even reduced power consumption with the display. So without his kernel the display eats more juice just being on. Its better to just install a stock based rom and use a kernel that sits in the background. Just install his kernel and forget it and roll with each new Freedom OS update.
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So I am Hoping you Guys can Tell Me which " 1 " of these Custom Roms is Best for Stability, Faster Internet, and Data speeds, Pretty much FAST in General, Plus decent in Battery Life as well....
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You really need to do some reading on what a ROM/Kernel will and will not do for you. Data speeds, internet will be the same- Excluding any abnormal errors with a bad rom build.
Furthermore, *not necessarily*, but the faster you want things to go, it's likely that you may take a battery hit of trying to go faster than the device wants to..
Lastly, your question is akin to asking "What is THE best car out there for me?" Nobody on this planet knows but you. YOU need to test them. First take the car out for a spin, see what YOU like. Then get people's opinions. If you like it, then like it. Some people love the Honda Pilot. Other people like Chevy Camaro. Neither are bad cars inherently. Just different strokes for different folks.
ROMS are much of the same way. I personally recommend you try Freedom OS and XXX for the OOS based ROMS.
For custom based... I recommend trying Pure Fusion ROM + Flash Kernel, Paranoid Android Unofficial, Resurrection Remix Official (You NEED flash kernel or Bluspark, otherwise in my experience it's been quite laggy)
Why do you think you need to flash a custom ROM the minute you turn on your phone? The best setup I have found for speed and stability is stock OOS rooted with Magisk, using Blu Spark kernel with speed lane enabled. I tried both xXx No Limits and Freedom ROM which are OOS based. They are both terrible. The absolute only reason people don't realize that they are ROMs that are actually worse than stock OOS is because they are also people who flashed a custom ROM as soon as they got their phones and are simply assuming the custom ROM is superior to stock OOS which they never bothered to use in the first place. xXx No Limits is not only much more buggy than stock OOS but it is also slower. Freedom ROM was overly debloated by the dev who removed some system apps/processes from stock OOS that should not have been removed. Some apps that auto load automatically on stock OOS will not boot up with Freedom ROM no matter what you do. Other apps behave differently on stock OOS and Freedom OOS--ongoing notifications and status bar icons are missing when the apps are used in Freedom--things like that. Unless you plan on using an AOSP or LOS ROM there is no reason to flash a custom ROM. You are much better off staying on stock OOS and using a custom kernel made for stock OOS.
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Why do you think you need to flash a custom ROM the minute you turn on your phone? The best setup I have found for speed and stability is stock OOS rooted with Magisk, using Blu Spark kernel with speed lane enabled. I tried both xXx No Limits and Freedom ROM which are OOS based. They are both terrible. The absolute only reason people don't realize that they are ROMs that are actually worse than stock OOS is because they are also people who flashed a custom ROM as soon as they got their phones and are simply assuming the custom ROM is superior to stock OOS which they never bothered to use in the first place. xXx No Limits is not only much more buggy than stock OOS but it is also slower. Freedom ROM was overly debloated by the dev who removed some system apps/processes from stock OOS that should not have been removed. Some apps that auto load automatically on stock OOS will not boot up with Freedom ROM no matter what you do. Other apps behave differently on stock OOS and Freedom OOS--ongoing notifications and status bar icons are missing when the apps are used in Freedom--things like that. Unless you plan on using an AOSP or LOS ROM there is no reason to flash a custom ROM. You are much better off staying on stock OOS and using a custom kernel made for stock OOS.
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^ this. Finally someone speaking sense. Only thing I disagree with is custom kernels. Stock oxygen os kernel gives significantly better battery than the rest (except simplegx, which is stock with some tweaked governors).
If you want to make big improvements to battery life, figure out what you have for wakelocks and fix them. Also, get rid of Facebook and FB messenger app. These days a kernel won't magically since poor battery life due to wakelocks.
People here talking about XXX and freedom being "custom roms" when they're nothing more than stock oos wrapped in an aroma installer ?
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These days a kernel won't magically since poor battery life due to wakelocks.
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That is only true for when the device is not in use (i.e., when in standby).
But what about when you're using it? Wakelocks are not a thing anymore.
So how will you improve battery life during usage?
Answer: With a custom kernel.
You can underclock the CPU/GPU, change some other parameters and get more battery life.
Sure, you sacrifice some performance, but the OnePlus 5 has plenty of horsepower under the hood, it won't bog down that easily.
I finally rooted and flashed a good kernel, putting it under test ATM.
I wanted to ask if flashing the XXX NoLimits magisk module worth it and really improves the experience on the OP 8 Pro, since it's not a ROM, it's only a Magisk module (flash type).
I don't mean anything to the team, I heard it was great but I just don't want to mess my phone up with modules and other things, thanks
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I finally rooted and flashed a good kernel, putting it under test ATM.
I wanted to ask if flashing the XXX NoLimits magisk module worth it and really improves the experience on the OP 8 Pro, since it's not a ROM, it's only a Magisk module (flash type).
I don't mean anything to the team, I heard it was great but I just don't want to mess my phone up with modules and other things, thanks
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I used to flash xxx on the OnePlus 5, it was a full ROM back then but it was the best out of them all..
If the module is anything like the ROM then yes it's well well worth it, the developer gets so much right so for me it would be a go to ROM / Magisk ROM
I wouldn't even touch the optimization settings and stuff, no modern device needs them.
Maybe only debloat but that's it.
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I wouldn't even touch the optimization settings and stuff, no modern device needs them.
Maybe only debloat but that's it.
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Id 100% turn off the page file no device with more that 4GB ram needs swap storage certainly not a phone with 12GB, the improvement in regards to gaming is night and day, so yep there is that.
Haven't flashed xXx so not sure what is on offer.
I have a saved config file from my time with the OnePlus 5 with xXx so I'll check on that and whatevers new.
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I used to flash xxx on the OnePlus 5, it was a full ROM back then but it was the best out of them all..
If the module is anything like the ROM then yes it's well well worth it, the developer gets so much right so for me it would be a go to ROM / Magisk ROM
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Yep, it's a Magisk ROM, I'll surely give it a try soon.
I'm currently running stock OOS with Omega kernel, it's running very good.
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I wouldn't even touch the optimization settings and stuff, no modern device needs them.
Maybe only debloat but that's it.
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Same, I have the 12gb RAM version so I don't think that any of these tweaks would really help, but I'll try some in the future, you know, we don't have much at the moment, the price of the phone is really high.
I run xXx with my own custom config on a OP8Pro 12GB/256GB with most tweaks emailed and zram disabled completely. Runs noticably faster overall. Snappier and launch times are super low. Also, even tho audio is good, the Viper + Dolby mod from xXx takes the speakers to a whooooole new level lol.
I always ran xXx on my old OP5 as well and it was great even tho I switched to Paranoid after a while just because I really love that UI style and customization. When PA Quartz is a bit more stable on the OP8Pro I will switch anyways but with xXx the stock ROM doesn't really miss anything that EdXposed and Gravitybox + Button Mapper + GCam can't fix like battery circle with percentage in it and flashlight shortcuts.
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I run xXx with my own custom config on a OP8Pro 12GB/256GB with most tweaks emailed and zram disabled completely. Runs noticably faster overall. Snappier and launch times are super low. Also, even tho audio is good, the Viper + Dolby mod from xXx takes the speakers to a whooooole new level lol.
I always ran xXx on my old OP5 as well and it was great even tho I switched to Paranoid after a while just because I really love that UI style and customization. When PA Quartz is a bit more stable on the OP8Pro I will switch anyways but with xXx the stock ROM doesn't really miss anything that EdXposed and Gravitybox + Button Mapper + GCam can't fix like battery circle with percentage in it and flashlight shortcuts.
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I rooted and flashed xXx along with Smurf kernel but I'm facing some issues with battery life, it's draining slightly faster than before. Other than that, the device is so responsive, fast and fluid.
I disabled zRAM completely and kept it all stock, that's the weird part but I hope I get better results this week. ??
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I rooted and flashed xXx along with Smurf kernel but I'm facing some issues with battery life, it's draining slightly faster than before. Other than that, the device is so responsive, fast and fluid.
I disabled zRAM completely and kept it all stock, that's the weird part but I hope I get better results this week. ??
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Well, there's your problem. Smurf kernel.
I would stay very far away from that kernel.
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Well, there's your problem. Smurf kernel.
I would stay very far away from that kernel.
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Why? I think it mainly aims for performance and of course some battery improvements but not that much, it's not that bad.
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Why? I think it mainly aims for performance and of course some battery improvements but not that much, it's not that bad.
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That kernel is all about overclock and obselete poorly coded "tweaks" that are not need on a modern smartphone, especially not on Snapdragon 865.
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That kernel is all about overclock and obselete poorly coded "tweaks" that are not need on a modern smartphone, especially not on Snapdragon 865.
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You know better than me, I'm not much into these things but you know, one that says it's great and the other says it's bad, the only way to know is to test it myself.
I tested the kernel, it's close to stock in terms of performance but the battery in stock is better.
The reason I'm using it is because I'm running xXx module which is best with Smurf kernel but I might get everything back to stock and test another kernel without the xXx module. Any recommendations?
EDIT: I just flashed blu spark kernel, I'll test it and tell you how it performs ?
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Why? I think it mainly aims for performance and of course some battery improvements but not that much, it's not that bad.
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Haven't flashed it but tbh the 865 is a beast of chip, it can easily run Dreamcast ROMs which is just staggering really. To push the chip any further is just not required.
For me if you can obtain the performance you get from the stock kernel and save battery then go for whatever that kernel is, from experience on all my device save maybe the galaxy S3 the stock kernel usually provides the best balance of performance / stamina, all the more so with current chipsets.
Aim for battery, performance should take care of itself.
If you're pushing for more performance I would ask myself for what?
I personally push my device more than most, not all the time but the emulators I run are probably the most demanding programs you can get on Android, if I'm good with the output of FPS on them at stock then I think you'll be fine too.
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Haven't flashed it but tbh the 865 is a beast of chip, it can easily run Dreamcast ROMs which is just staggering really. To push the chip any further is just not required.
For me if you can obtain the performance you get from the stock kernel and save battery then go for whatever that kernel is, from experience on all my device save maybe the galaxy S3 the stock kernel usually provides the best balance of performance / stamina, all the more so with current chipsets.
Aim for battery, performance should take care of itself.
If you're pushing for more performance I would ask myself for what?
I personally push my device more than most, not all the time but the emulators I run are probably the most demanding programs you can get on Android, if I'm good with the output of FPS on them at stock then I think you'll be fine too.
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You're right, even though I flashed some kernels but I didn't really notice any improvements in the performance, the device is too fast and doesn't need junk tweaks to be improved, but the battery is better now with the kernel I'm running. Thanks for advising me brother
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You're right, even though I flashed some kernels but I didn't really notice any improvements in the performance, the device is too fast and doesn't need junk tweaks to be improved, but the battery is better now with the kernel I'm running. Thanks for advising me brother
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No worries man, anytime.