hi guys.
i have samaung s7 and i see that samsung only wants peoples freedom, include samsung lie about caracteristics/speficitations: samsung comment on tv, samsung comment on samsung box that samsung s7 has 4 gb. of ram when when you buy samsung you only has 1.5 gb. free, the other 2.5 gb. ram are false and are used by system and etc. but in tv program, samsung lie that samsung s7 has 4 gb. ram when samsung s7 has free 1.5 gb. ram.. the same is for hard disk space 32 gb. disk space when you start samaung it only has less gb. hard disk space than tv programs include samsung box. so i want to know what is the best smartphone that when you buy it can be for 10 years use. i just remember oneplus 5 can have lineage os 14.1 or new. i dont like stock rom of oneplus and i want to install free humankind rom.
rossiaman said:
hi guys.
i have samaung s7 and i see that samsung only wants peoples freedom, include samsung lie about caracteristics/speficitations: samsung comment on tv, samsung comment on samsung box that samsung s7 has 4 gb. of ram when when you buy samsung you only has 1.5 gb. free, the other 2.5 gb. ram are false and are used by system and etc. but in tv program, samsung lie that samsung s7 has 4 gb. ram when samsung s7 has free 1.5 gb. ram.. the same is for hard disk space 32 gb. disk space when you start samaung it only has less gb. hard disk space than tv programs include samsung box. so i want to know what is the best smartphone that when you buy it can be for 10 years use. i just remember oneplus 5 can have lineage os 14.1 or new. i dont like stock rom of oneplus and i want to install free humankind rom.
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Wow.
Samsung isn't lying, they are stating what the RAM size is, not the amount free because...no one does that. On my OnePlus 5, has 6 GB right? Well Total Memory states 5.6 GB...Free is 3.5 GB, are they lying then too? My Lenovo laptop has 16 GB RAM, Free is 9.2 GB, so are they lying? No, because they are stating the amount of total RAM the system has to use, that's how anything from phones to computers are spec'd out. I've NEVER seen a manufacturer state "Our laptop has 9.2 GB of RAM!"...
My 64 GB OnePlus 5 states 52.67 GB available, so it isn't showing 64 GB. That's because the operating system has to fit somewhere on the device, which mostly is the ~12 GB taken already, so that leaves 52.67 GB available for use to me.
There is no right or wrong answer to "What is the best smartphone to buy?"...it comes down to your personal preference. If you don't want to deal with locked bootloaders from Samsung (specifically Snapdragon models), then go with something like OnePlus/Google Pixel/certain LG/Essential/International Samsung S8's(?), who allow the unlocking of a bootloader to flash a custom recovery, and ROM. My suggestion to you is do some research on what make/model phones have heavy development if you want to be able to have multiple options for ROM flashing.
You won't get 10 years use out of a phone, at least not support from a device manufacturer. They'll provide 2 years worth of support on the software side, then anything after that would be custom ROM territory. Even then, custom ROM's are only available if they have someone to support it and maintain it, and even then, over time support will be dropped as new versions of Android come out that a device won't support.
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Hello,
I am going to buy a new smartphone next week and I am torn between One X+ and Nexus 4.
Nexus 4: 350 euro
One X+: 450 euro
I am interested in camera quality and also storage since I am going to take a lot of pictures and videos. So 64gb of space in X+ is very compelling versus 16gb on nexus, and dropbox offer for 25gb is also a bonus. What I have been thinking though is that with the 100 euro less paid, I could have bought the package from Dropbox for 100gb and have enough space for storage. But then I am forced to upload whatever I take online and delete them from the phone.
How much storage does Nexus 4 have free after the basic apps installation (gmail, chrome, google+, messengers, skype etc) ?
Another issue I am thinking is Ram on X+, 1gb is not very future-proof I think so this can be a problem with latest android versions.
Does it worth the 100 euro more to go for One X+ ????
What's your opinion ?
Thank you
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Hello,
I am going to buy a new smartphone next week and I am torn between One X+ and Nexus 4.
Nexus 4: 350 euro
One X+: 450 euro
I am interested in camera quality and also storage since I am going to take a lot of pictures and videos. So 64gb of space in X+ is very compelling versus 16gb on nexus, and dropbox offer for 25gb is also a bonus. What I have been thinking though is that with the 100 euro less paid, I could have bought the package from Dropbox for 100gb and have enough space for storage. But then I am forced to upload whatever I take online and delete them from the phone.
How much storage does Nexus 4 have free after the basic apps installation (gmail, chrome, google+, messengers, skype etc) ?
Another issue I am thinking is Ram on X+, 1gb is not very future-proof I think so this can be a problem with latest android versions.
Does it worth the 100 euro more to go for One X+ ????
What's your opinion ?
Thank you
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I'm having N4 and it shows 12.8Gigz available out of the box. IMO go for HOX+ if you are looking for camera quality and storage. 64Gigz is more than you can bargain for.
nethackker said:
I'm having N4 and it shows 12.8Gigz available out of the box. IMO go for HOX+ if you are looking for camera quality and storage. 64Gigz is more than you can bargain for.
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+1 to this, go for the HOX+ if you care about camera quality and available storage. I personally don't see cloud storage as being a valid substitute for device storage and the camera on the N4 isn't great. The only thing is the 100 Euro price difference, surely you can find something cheaper?
With Google you get 15GB free storage as well, and your photos are automatically uploaded to Drive. And if you fill up that 15GB (between gmail and drive) then you still get unlimited storage for photos at 2MP I believe.
However I really don't think the camera on the Nexus 4 is particularly good...... Unless I'm holding it wrong
Edit There are plenty of storage services that provide more storage than dropbox, try box.com or even SkyDrive or Ubuntu one. In my sig is copy who give you 15GB to everyone or 20 if you use that link.
Another edit - Mediafire is another site, damn fast servers and if I remember everyone gets 50GB. And there's always Mega!! Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but another 50GB to be had. Mega though has no account recovery system so you forget your details you lose everything (at least I think that's right?)
I am not looking for a file hosting service. I want one of the clouds I use if I decide to use them for photo storage. And these are, gdrive, skydrive and dropbox. It's just that dropbox is the only one with a linux client.
As for the phones though, I guess I am going for the One X+ due to the storage mainly and better camera. Is the 1gb ram less going to be a real problem for the next android versions ? at least for another 1.5 years ???
I strongly doubt the RAM will be an issue but you won't be officially updated much and the GPU is likely to struggle with heavy gaming. Other than those two issues the HOX+ should be a decent phone I think.
Well, I play no games at all, except for some simple ones, puzzle like! So gpu is not a problem as long as it does not become a bottleneck for the OS graphics.
I always root my devices so latest updates is not a problem, but it will be if 1gb of ram is insufficient for a new version...
Are there any reports or leaks for upcoming android versions and their requirements ?
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Well, I play no games at all, except for some simple ones, puzzle like! So gpu is not a problem as long as it does not become a bottleneck for the OS graphics.
I always root my devices so latest updates is not a problem, but it will be if 1gb of ram is insufficient for a new version...
Are there any reports or leaks for upcoming android versions and their requirements ?
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There's a rumour something will be announced/released June 10th. So maybe just wait until then.
As for RAM 1Gig is still a lot, on my nexus there is usually between 1/2 - 1 gig free RAM. photo editing etc might make use of more RAM though.
Hi XDA members,
I just got my new S4 and was playing around with it until i wanted to move my files from my old phone (S2) to the S4.....
I bought the 16gb version but when I plug it in it only shows 9,22 GB how come?
I know there is space needed for the rom and such but i dont think the rom needs 7gb of space?
is there a way to get my beloved GB's?
Thanks for any response
The internal memory is never a true 16Gb to begin with. It's closer to 13 or 14. I forget the reasons why, it's something to do with manufactures misrepresenting t hings slightly. For example a 1tb hdd has only about 958gb available.
Secondly, the s4 rom is indeed massive. It's up around five to six times the size of vanilla android thanks to all the features Samsung added to it.
There are ways to mitigate the problem, the newer firmware has the ability to move apps to the external sd card and if you're rooted you can use the "folder mount" app to transfer any folder to the external.
I hope that going forward Samsung will start providing 32Gb internal as standard especially if they keep adding more "features" aka bloat. In the mean time it's what we have to deal with.
Sent from my GT-I9505
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The internal memory is never a true 16Gb to begin with. It's closer to 13 or 14. I forget the reasons why, it's something to do with manufactures misrepresenting t hings slightly. For example a 1tb hdd has only about 958gb available.
Secondly, the s4 rom is indeed massive. It's up around five to six times the size of vanilla android thanks to all the features Samsung added to it.
There are ways to mitigate the problem, the newer firmware has the ability to move apps to the external sd card and if you're rooted you can use the "folder mount" app to transfer any folder to the external.
I hope that going forward Samsung will start providing 32Gb internal as standard especially if they keep adding more "features" aka bloat. In the mean time it's what we have to deal with.
Sent from my GT-I9505
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Yeah I got myself omega rom without the bloatware but still..
oh well guess ill get myself a 32 gb sd card
see title - can that a/b partitioning be removed somehow? i dont need two system and/or kernel partitions to be honest - for me it seems like a waste of space. any idea?
OTA stock updates assume a/b so they will fail. TWRP also assumes a/b.
So you end up a bit on your own with a device perhaps having some more internal space but with no standard tools to manage it.
Well, I have an phone from 2017 and this damn A/B partition scheme clogs up all the storage, it uses 16 GB of 32 GB, which is is absolutely insane. This is twice the 8 GB that Android 9 normally uses. I will not get any more updates, Android 9 is the last update that this phone (moto X4) will ever get, so I want to get rid of this useless bloat of data that is just sitting around and will never ever get used again. But how to do it? It seems to be some kind of super secret magic knowhow that nobody has, I really hate Android for this proprietary closed nature and intransparency, I use Linux and it is all so much easier on there.
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Well, I have an phone from 2017 and this damn A/B partition scheme clogs up all the storage, it uses 16 GB of 32 GB, which is is absolutely insane. This is twice the 8 GB that Android 9 normally uses. I will not get any more updates, Android 9 is the last update that this phone (moto X4) will ever get, so I want to get rid of this useless bloat of data that is just sitting around and will never ever get used again. But how to do it? It seems to be some kind of super secret magic knowhow that nobody has, I really hate Android for this proprietary closed nature and intransparency, I use Linux and it is all so much easier on there.
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perhaps 2017 moto X4 messed up partition sizes ... since, even a 256GB 1+8T does sum up boot+system+vendor+product around 4GB. Android 9 boot+system should certainly also hardly exceed 4GB (only half I would guess). And there is no data duplication for sure. Agreed 4GB lost out of 32GB would be something (but not absolutely insane as compared to benefit). Then still, 16GB lost from 32GB really is too much for sure but cannot be blamed to Android design idea (which, by the way, is open by nature) but only be blamed to (maybe only this particular) moto. Finally, Linux repartitioning is no magic secret at all.
Yes, Linux partitioning is super trivial and very well documented. Android partitioning is unknown, never have seen any articles about it. Please share if you know a link. Android is theoretically open source, but not really: Try to run any version of Android on a certain cellphone and you will find that you can't, you can only run certain versions and even these might not work. This is very much unlike Linux, where you can run any Linux on any Laptop easily.
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Hi,
At the moment I'm looking for a new tablet for me and my wife. I've made my pick (Tab S5e 128 GB), but my wife wants something lighter, as most she'll do on it is read or play HayDay.
She has her mind set on a Tab A, but there are several at the moment, 10.1, 10.5,...
Requirements for a wifi only tab A:
Lineage or other custom rom support
Snapdragon CPU
For the rest no requirements, but I thing a 64 Gb version is a tad more future proof. The Exynos CPU is a nice one, but hardly supported by custom rom builders. (I tried for the Tab S2, luckily @ripee and @tripLr took over)
Which one is which, is the 2019 version a better option then the older ones,... To many Tab A models. (at least the S series are numbered)
T_I said:
Hi,
At the moment I'm looking for a new tablet for me and my wife. I've made my pick (Tab S5e 128 GB), but my wife wants something lighter, as most she'll do on it is read or play HayDay.
She has her mind set on a Tab A, but there are several at the moment, 10.1, 10.5,...
Requirements for a wifi only tab A:
Lineage or other custom rom support
Snapdragon CPU
For the rest no requirements, but I thing a 64 Gb version is a tad more future proof. The Exynos CPU is a nice one, but hardly supported by custom rom builders. (I tried for the Tab S2, luckily @ripee and @tripLr took over)
Which one is which, is the 2019 version a better option then the older ones,... To many Tab A models. (at least the S series are numbered)
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Why would she possibly need 64gb for what you described? The SM-510 with 32gb is way more than enough to do what she wants. I have mine rooted with a custom Lineage 16 ROM and a 17 one is "in the works", just waiting for a few bugs to be solved. Yes, there may be more custom ROMs for Snapdragon SoCs, but that is just because they've been around longer. I also have a 2016 SM-t580 with an Exynos SoC and I have 6 different Android 10 ROMs on it and I don't have them all.
IMO, unless you are watching 4k movies or are an avid "gamer", there should be no reason to need more than 32gb of internal storage when you can always add a 256gb SD card. And, personally, I'd never use a 10" tablet for either of those activities
Added Note: I don't consider people who enjoy a pleasant time with Hay Day to be "avid gamers". That app works quite well on my old 2016, 16gb Tab A.
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Why would she possibly need 64gb for what you described? The SM-510 with 32gb is way more than enough to do what she wants. I have mine rooted with a custom Lineage 16 ROM and a 17 one is "in the works", just waiting for a few bugs to be solved. Yes, there may be more custom ROMs for Snapdragon SoCs, but that is just because they've been around longer. I also have a 2016 SM-t580 with an Exynos SoC and I have 6 different Android 10 ROMs on it and I don't have them all.
IMO, unless you are watching 4k movies or are an avid "gamer", there should be no reason to need more than 32gb of internal storage when you can always add a 256gb SD card. And, personally, I'd never use a 10" tablet for either of those activities
Added Note: I don't consider people who enjoy a pleasant time with Hay Day to be "avid gamers". That app works quite well on my old 2016, 16gb Tab A.
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Hi Lewmur,
Could you offer a quick comment on the recent SM-510 vs the 2016 SM-T 580? Love my 580, does most all of what I need well, but I'm thinking the RAM's too low at 2GB. Just started looking around and thought the 510 might be a better 'daily driver'. And, I think your advice to the OP was spot on.
Cheers! :highfive:
StevenRN
steven.rn said:
Hi Lewmur,
Could you offer a quick comment on the recent SM-510 vs the 2016 SM-T 580? Love my 580, does most all of what I need well, but I'm thinking the RAM's too low at 2GB. Just started looking around and thought the 510 might be a better 'daily driver'. And, I think your advice to the OP was spot on.
Cheers! :highfive:
StevenRN
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To be honest, I don't use either tablet to do anything that stretches their capability. The battery life on my 510 seems better, but then again, its is new and the 580 is three years old. The Antutu benchmark on the 510 is much better at 113745 as opposed to the 580 at 83259. Bottom line, if I had to pay retail for a 510 to upgrade from a 580, I wouldn't do it. I bought my two 510s for $80 and $50 including shipping. They were both in like new condition but with one catch. They are "Not for Sale" models with only 2gb and 16gb. The "Not for Sale" doesn't mean they are not legit. They both "registered" with Samsung without a problem. They just couldn't be sold "retail" and don't include a warranty.
edit: For an 80 yr old with shaky hands, the 510 does take a much better photo.
Hello again XDA! I'm an old has-been on here that used to be big into flashing custom roms on forgotten devices, but a wife, career, and two kids put me on the "just work dammit" path for some time. I now have a 7 year old that's been using an LG tablet I got duped into buying from US Cellular (don't ask...I don't wanna rant). Dumb thing's got 16Gb ram and it's ALWAYS full. So my mom offered her old Sammy Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 (SM-T530NU) for him or my daughter to us a while back and I picked it up today. I tried to sign my son in and come to find out that the sammy is surprisingly still on Android 5 and doesn't support Google family link . I'm looking for a ROM...or something I can do to make this thing support the family link min specs, let me use an SD card instead of internal memory (since this also only has 16 GB), and still has full use of Bluetooth, cameras, mic, and Netflix/etc.
Is there ANYTHING I can "upgrade' to that would fit all this?
Just look here on this section. Before asking, look better and you will see lineage 16 and lightningfastrom 17.1. I advice you the first one.