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Now, we all love our little gadget (mine being the wonderful black O2 Exec), but I personally find that the speakers are just a mite too small for use when outside (sunbathing, for instance).
Does anyone know of any speakers worthy of plugging into our wonderful PPCs, that would be worth buying? Summer is on the way here in the UK and I would love to be able to access all of my music collection while outside (without running extension leads everywhere) which accessing their WLAN.
Any comments/reviews or links would help the masses of sun worshipers who don't want to leave their PPC in the shade (so to speak).
Regards
James
After a quick look on Ebay these Travel Speakers look pretty useful.
Universal has 3.5mm jack, but some of the other HTC devices have 2.5mm.
Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with this company. I followed a link from product number 9708030927 on Ebay UK.
Summer only lasts 2 days, is there any point??
check out these:
www.maplin.co.uk
www.dixons.co.uk
Review of AT&T Tilt GPS Car Mount form JustPal at justpal.com purchased on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...rksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=its=S%2BI%2BSS%2BSD
This is not directed at JustPal other than their typical shipping policy. They do have a generally good record. I did get the same item that was advertised on eBay at other retailers for 10-20 dollars more than their price of 35.99. Other retailers use the same picture so I would imagine it is the same unit. The shipping was $10.95 (now it is $12.65) which was lower than most also. Also their shipping was fast.
Their return policy is similar to others on eBay which is they don't credit shipping so I would have to pay return shipping and new shipping (which has now gone up)and thus the cost is prohibitive to exchange it. Plus I destroyed the packaging opening the item and that would void the return. It would be cheaper to just buy another and have it sent immediately and not have to wait for them to examine the package and perhaps tell me I am not eligible for an exchange. I would be out the return shipping and still pay new (higher) shipping.
My quandary is this: should I chance another one as this may be a fluke of a defect or it may be a trend. Or should I wait for one that is probably twice as much and purchase it from someone with a better shipping and return policy along with hopefully better quality. Perhaps someone else will take the chance on one and it will be ok.
Here are my issues with the Cradle:
1. At first I didn't even think it was going to match up with the USB on the bottom of the Tilt and I was a bit reticent to force it as that is a weak link. I wiggled it quite a bit but it finally slide on with a fair amount of pressure. I had the thought that perhaps the stylus was causing it to be offset a bit so I removed it and it did go on easier but still requires some fiddling with it. It may loosen up a bit in the future with some use but the fit of the cradle is fairly tight which is a good thing. The unit has a label that states CM-A8925 which would indicate that someone thinks it will fit but they must have not tried it.
2. I didn't plan on using he suction cup mount so I didn't try it as I wanted to use the vent mounts because I travel and rent cars frequently. Unfortunately they do not fit very secure in my Toyota Matrix. Others with more and flatter louvers may be better.
3. Now for the REAL PROBLEM; when I first plugged it in there was a noticeable buzz in the speaker. It seemed to change as I opened and closed items and then when I started up TeleNav, which has an icon that resembles a spinning propeller, the speaker "popped" each time the propeller fin rotated. It would appear that there is some type of shielding needed between the speaker and the Tilt. VERY Annoying!!!
4. Well, annoying that was while the speaker lasted!! I unplugged and re-plugged the "hands free" wire (a short wire with a microphone that plugs into the upper unit and the speaker) a couple of times and the speaker quit working altogether. Now I have gone being from annoyed to completely disgruntled. After inspecting the unit it was found that the upper connection was loose and wiggled with the connector plugged in. If I did hold the connection in tight, it would again cause the speaker to work, albeit with the same annoying fizzing and popping. Finally it quit altogether.
5. A "tab" which is used to glue the front and back together on the side with the defective connector is not as smoothly mated with the side piece as the one on the other side.
6. A small clip on the vent mount that is meant to "snug" it up fell off inside the vent and now rattles while I drive.
7. The mount which connects to the base unit and either the vent bracket or the suction cup was very difficult to get on and once on damn near impossible to get off.
That is about it. I guess I don't need to say I would not recommend this to anyone. A $46.46 lesson which I can't say was worth the money just to publish this review. I really expected at least something functional. Oh well, I have a speaker (poor that it is) and a USB connector to play with and see what I can do with them.
Hope this helps others.
what i did to get it to work
Hello i to bought 1 of those mounts not from them but somebody else on ebay. I wanted to use the mounts for the vent too, so when i got it i took it out of the box it looked good so out to the car i went while going down the steps to get outside i heard something hit the floor and it was that little mounting thing that supposed to keep it tight on the vent .. So now at closer look they will not work so i decided to use the suction mount which i think works great , now on to hou i got my tilt to fit the case mine also would noy slide into the usb mount it took me awhile to get it in .... and i was think wow this is not good going to break my phone right off ..
So i took it into my shop and got a dremel tool out and went to work on the inside off the mount on the sides i kept taking a little of both sides untill it slide in easy and perfect now it fits great and i think it will not harm the usb deal.
On to the speaker mine also makes all kinds of noise but it deos work great with tomtom and navmaps if you mess with the wire and get it just perfect the noise will go away i can live with a little noise also when my phone is by my computer at home the noise also comes through my speaker ...
just thought i would add my 2 cents worth if i new what i know now i would of not bought this mount but i did get it to fit perfect after a hour or so with the dremel tool
Al
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Thanks for the tips. If I can get the speaker to work again I will try the shaving trick. I don't think I will try another one of these but wait on someone to try some other vendors.
i bought the oncourse 3 mount for the tilt from buygps.com and it has a FM transmitter built in. I comes with only the suction mount.
It works as advertised. I used this last weekend while driving and found that over all it is a nice product. I was like $40 inluding shipping or something. I like the FM trnasmitter BC i can now listen to my podcasts on my radio rather than using headphones or such.
it definately isnt perfect but it does work.
my 2cents.
http://www.buygpsnow.com/Product/On...andT-Tilt--HTC-P4550TyTN-II--Kaiser__958.aspx
it got it on sale last week.
Hmmmm ... so it arrived broken? Irregardless of what their return policy is, I'm pretty sure they have to replace it or offer a solution unless it is listed as "as-is". I'd check Ebay/PayPal on that. You shouldn't be out the funds to replace an item that was broken to begin with.
I ordered one of these too. How is the charger? I heard the brodit ones fry the device. Does the speaker interfere with bluetooth handsfree?
Hmmm
Had exactly the same problems with a very similar sounding mount. It was very difficult to get it to mate up (too difficult to use regularly), it screamed when I did get it in, then the device went into a soft reset loop like something was permanently pressing in the reset recess.
I shall be returning mine for a refund and I'll wait until they get a new / better batch.
Hmmm.
Just got mine and I have the same problem with the connector not aligned. I think I will swap it for the one with the FM transmitter. I don't need the FM since I have a bluetooth stereo but I can use it in other cars.
New Item I found
well even tho i got mine other 1 to work with the dremel tool i think i will get this 1 instead..
http://www.tiltdepot.com/seidio-g4700x-charging-vechicle-mount/3A78A3465.htm
AL
adidas4275 said:
i bought the oncourse 3 mount for the tilt from buygps.com and it has a FM transmitter built in. I comes with only the suction mount.
It works as advertised. I used this last weekend while driving and found that over all it is a nice product. I was like $40 inluding shipping or something. I like the FM trnasmitter BC i can now listen to my podcasts on my radio rather than using headphones or such.
it definately isnt perfect but it does work.
my 2cents.
http://www.buygpsnow.com/Product/On...andT-Tilt--HTC-P4550TyTN-II--Kaiser__958.aspx
it got it on sale last week.
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I too, bought this same unit. I really like mine. I've had no problems with it.
The only thing that dissapointed me, was that the quality of the sound from the FM broadcast from the unit. It's definately strong and clear, but it sounds muddy. It's not great for music. It works just fine for GPS though.
I use it with TeleNav and I have no issues with it. It's a good, solid unit.
I've not tried connecting the audio via a cable yet, however. I don't have a stereo in my car that accepts input that way. I plan on upgrading though.
G4700x NOT for TILT
NinJak101 said:
well even tho i got mine other 1 to work with the dremel tool i think i will get this 1 instead..
http://www.tiltdepot.com/seidio-g4700x-charging-vechicle-mount/3A78A3465.htm
AL
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I had also considered tht one until I read this:
Hi Nick,
We’re sorry for the confusion. The G4700x car kit for PPC6800 is only compatible to use with the HTC mogul with Sprint and will not compatible to use with Tytn II, Kaiser or Tilt. We’re still working on the Kaiser car kit, but at this we do not have an ETA.
Thank You for contacting Seidio
Kelvin Chung
Technical Specialist
Seidio, Inc.
And I got this response back from Seidio asking to put on a list for when the TILT car kit comes out:
Dear Jim,
Thank you for your inquiry at Seidioonline. We will be happy to assist you with your concern. The car mount will not be coming out any time soon. We do not have a list for those requesting this mount; therefore, the best way to be updated is checking our site www.seidioonline.com
So, I guess we are back to trying various ones that "claim" to work until we find one that does work.
On a side note, one of those sites had this:
*Notice to Drivers in California and Minnesota:
State law prohibits drivers in California and Minnesota from using suction mounts on their windshields while operating motor vehicles. We recommend the use of Arkon AP020 90mm Circular Disc w/ 3M Adhesive [SKU 961] to transform any windshield mount into a console mount. Easy PocketNAV, Inc does not take any responsibility for any fines, penalties, or damages that may be incurred as a result of disregarding this notice. (See California Vehicle Code Section 26708(a); Minnesota Statutes 2005, Section 169.71)
I'm in California, but I think I'd still roll with one of those suction cup ones with the FM transmitter... looks like a quality product.
Ticketz be damned.
Very Good Mount Found on E-Bay
This is my first post, I usually read and try to soak in as much information as I can. I was reading this post and had to contribute;
I recently purchased a mount from GPSLot, an E-Bay store, I opted for the "Buy it Now" at $10.00 + $5.00 shipping I figured I couldn't go wrong. I also purchased a mini USB and 3.5mm Stereo Audio Adapter, which allows you to charge your Tilt II and you have the stereo jack (my Nissan Titan has an input jack in the dash). I received both items in 4 days at $22.00 shipped!
I am very happy with the mount. My truck has a very long dash, so I put the mount on the dash because my windshield is just too far away. It is has 2 different axis' to adjust and the cradle rotates letting you turn your Tilt II on either side or leave it straight up. The phone is held in place by a spring loaded catch that tilts back to let it slide right in. I was afraid it was going to be one of those stiff plastic cradles that put alot of pressure on your device as it is being installed or removed, but that isn't the case.
My wife has a Tom-tom One, and I have a Mio Digiwalker c220, so I have something to compare this mount to. I like the way this one sits and the adjustments much better than either of the actual GPS mounts.
You can browse the store and see what you think,
http://stores.ebay.com/GPSLot
I don't know how long this following link will be good but have a try,
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TyTN-II-Til...ryZ75447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I am thinking about do-it-yourself (DIY) speaker replacements for the TF101.
I pulled mine out and found the plug connector is part similar to JST 04SUR-32S. It is 0.8mm pitch so the wires have to be thin.
I have found a couple different speakers that fit. The square dimensions must be under 25mm x 11mm (12 might work), and thickness is unsure but must be under 7mm. I also will evaluate round at 11mm diameter.
Examples:
http://www.veco.com.tw/
square speakers
The part number on speakers in the tablet is "tek 1505". I think the 05 stands for 5 ohms, just a guess.
Thoughts or suggestions?
Let us know how it goes.. I have one speaker not working, I might want to try that too.
Thanks
Awesome. I am really looking forward to this. If you find some speakers that perform really good, let us know the specifications. I really would like some better speakers.
really looking forward to this, really would like some bass enhanced speakers...
Old news: Got my speakers pulled, need to test originals on an oscillator.
New news:
Got replacement speakers, but they are a little to big. Will see if they fit next time I open my tablet.
Got replacement plugs for wiring harness, 04SUR-32S. I think it is a match, and will test fit next time I open my tablet.
This morning I made a replacement wiring harness with some top quality AWG 30 wire and a replacement plug (04SUR-32S). The quality of my wire seems better than original, so I might replace the original wiring harness if the original speakers test okay.
I got my plugs from these guys: http://ecommerce.tlcelectronics.com/jst/04SUR-32S
So, I have a few extras (min order 100) - selling some. Recommend a few (5?) because it takes practice to crimp in the wires. Also, I might make a few replacement wiring harnesses - and sell some wiring harnesses instead.
At this point, I am not 100% sure they will fit in the circuit board but they *look* like a match to the original. PM me for info.
Any news on this?
I'm very interested in this too.
I found a supplier of speakers that are the same size as ASUS. So, I asked for a quote & samples over a week ago and I have not heard back. Waiting.
I also have a few varieties both larger & smaller than the standard speakers. In about one week I will be doing more hardware hacking.
Other people's thoughts and work interest me too. Ideas?
Bob Smith42 said:
I found a supplier of speakers that are the same size as ASUS. So, I asked for a quote & samples over a week ago and I have not heard back. Waiting.
I also have a few varieties both larger & smaller than the standard speakers. In about one week I will be doing more hardware hacking.
Other people's thoughts and work interest me too. Ideas?
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I replaced the speakers on my A101 a few months ago. I usually use Digikey for components, but Mouser had a surprising amount of speakers. Have you looked for stock there yet? In my testing, all speakers around this size have a sharp linear falloff under 100Hz, so I focused on getting the highest SPL efficiency, I think I ended up around 96dB/V.
P.S. Why are you bothering with new plugs for the speakers? I usually just desolder the old ones and use their harnesses. Not an attack, just wondering.
How difficult is it to disassemble and reassemble this tablet? I asked the guys over at ifixit if they were going to do a teardown of Transformer but they said they have no plans at this point. Does the battery look DIY if it is ever needed?
just wondering how this is going? i need to replace a speaker due to blowing out 1 of them and not being able to send off under warranty.
frankly dont know enough about this sort of thing to complete on my own but can test and contribute to get this done.
I did find a site with possible replacement speakers, but lost the link so trying to find it again.
anyway ill post when I find it, hope this is still being worked on!
Wondering why you don't look at an enclosure/driver that works....IE the iPad...not the 2.
What did they do that ASus obviously didn't??
The transformer is a consumption device, and by god, as such it had better deliver sight , sound and recording of same with steller results...zsent mine back and returned to my Ipad2 for that very reason.
... hoping the crappy audio I/o will be solved with the next iteration...
I really wanted the Xformer to be a winner
Chas
divvet said:
just wondering how this is going? i need to replace a speaker due to blowing out 1 of them and not being able to send off under warranty.
frankly dont know enough about this sort of thing to complete on my own but can test and contribute to get this done.
I did find a site with possible replacement speakers, but lost the link so trying to find it again.
anyway ill post when I find it, hope this is still being worked on!
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Update: I never got reply from speaker supplier. Could use more suggestions on suppliers. So, I will have to go with what I have found already - 2 sizes slightly off.
Great suggestion hesynergy. I will check out the iPad 2 speakers.
I am still planning to do mod in near future. If someone else wants to attempt you can PM me and I will make you a speaker wiring harness. You can remove the originals and try a second set without damaging originals.
Other distractions at the moment. I got two 4000mAh 7.4v batteries (8000mAh total) that might (should) fit in the dock. I need to disassemble the dock or tablet to measure the power connector so I might do speakers at the same time.
I will post everything when going on ....
found that link..
http://www.speaker-tw.com/manufacturer/speaker/rectanguler%20speaker.htm
admittedly, i haven't measured the speakers yet so dont know if these are anywhere near the size needed.
and also just realised this isnt a uk supplier, but none the less may come in handy.
just emailed asus asking for help. hopefully get a good response
I've been following this thread. I love hardware hacks. Too bad there isn't more of it spread among popular devices. I have to admit, I was hoping to hear a success story like, "I've done it! I integrated the port design from my Bose Wave radio and my Transformer has some b-b-b-bass!"
Till then, i'll keep lurking the progress here.
Hi Guys
I want to replace my speakers as well. The left speaker does not work
I sent my transformer for RMA and they sent it back and again the speaker does not work. On the paper I received they mentioned that they changed a sponge.
I can not be bother to send my transformer back to asus.
Have you found a speaker replacement and the hardness?
well asus responded with very little help. they gave me a list of possible sites to find the part, but none of them had it
My left speaker also doesn't work, but when i squeeze left side it works. So I wonder how difficult is to open device and did anybody succeed in repairing original speaker. I guess resoldering some connection is all it takes.
I am also hoping somebody will find better speakers, but just having both spakers working would be a great improvement for me.
Hi Divvet
Can you share these web sites that you got from Asus?
I think these speakers are really bad quality. I hope Asus to understand that
and to start replacing them with a better quality.
If someone find a good quality speaker and to actually fit I would be interested in
Lets see the results
vlasac said:
My left speaker also doesn't work, but when i squeeze left side it works. So I wonder how difficult is to open device and did anybody succeed in repairing original speaker. I guess resoldering some connection is all it takes.
I am also hoping somebody will find better speakers, but just having both spakers working would be a great improvement for me.
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Mine did the same but eventually it stopped, i took my tab apart and it didnt seem to be the connection itself, i think it was the actual speaker, unfortunately i dont know enough about repairing speakers.
And here you go prince...
www.asusparts.eu
www.notebookrepair.co.uk
www.psaparts.co.uk
www.expansys.com
www.computerbasement.co.uk
http://www.superbattery.co.uk/Asus-laptop-battery/
http://estore.asus.com/shop/category.asp?catid=363
www.replacedirect.com
www.laptopparts.co.uk/ShopByBrand.aspx?BrandDetail=Asus
www.jpcparts.com/m/100/ASUS.html
I've just bought a Iconia A500. Very happy so far But next week I'm heading back to university and were planning on using it to take notes. On my phone and laptop I've got the Evernote app which works great and syncs across the platforms. It has a feature for recording sound whilst taking notes.
I tried using it on the Iconia, but the internal mic was, to be honest, crap. Cause the lecturer is at least a few meters away and I could hardly hear a thing.
Q: Do you know if it's possible to use a either a USB mic, Bluetooth mic or a standard 3,5mm jack?
I tried first plugging in a standard MIC 3,5mm jack, nothing. Then I tried the combo headset/mic I've got for my HTC Desire; it worked, but the audio was still pretty crap when faced with the problem of a speaker a short distance away. I also tried connecting my H4N zoom recorder (USB), but nothing.
Any ideas or experiences on this???
Thanks for your time
The problem is not the mic, but the 3.1 Android OS, I have connected an external mic and recorder sound is crap. As far as I see our only hope is to wait for 3.2 to fix the issue, and if not contact Acer and ask for a fix. Again is not hardware related issue but software one.
As for external mic to work, you need one that uses the fourth ring (the first one if I not mistake), that is the ones like iPhone and similar headsets with mic integrated, standard mic doesn't work even they are 3.5 mm jacks because the wiring is different.
[]===> (Jack)
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mic wiring (1st one of four)
If you have an older batch of the Acer A500, then you are out of luck... or ALMOST
The newer batch of the A500 (same SKU, same Part Number, same Model Number...) has a major design change/correction that resolves the microphone issue. I saw one a few days ago. On an older batch, the microphone is located on the left AND under the glass, MUFFLED, that is. On the newer batch, the microphone is located in the center, where the glass meets the aluminum AND there is a visible rectangular (small, but visible) opening for the microphone TO BREATHE!!! HAHAHA. Acer finally corrected the DESIGN FLAW. BUT Acer will claim that there is nothing wrong with your flawed designed A500!!! GO FIGURE. Suggestion? Try to force Acer to replace your STILL IN WARRANTY unit for you AND do everybody else a favor, as I have done, and contact the Better Business Bureau, your State Attorney General, the Federal Trade Commission, your Senators and everybody that you know who has an older batch of the A500. Acer's support is crap. Their customer service is crap and dumb. Their US operation is crap. They will remain crap until they replace the piece of crap THAT IS UNDER WARRANTY, a warranty that states the following actions to be taken in case of poor performance or design...
1. repair (unit is unrepairable)
2. replace
3. refund the amount you paid for this piece of crap
People, act. Don't just sit and complain.
rokimbo said:
The newer batch of the A500 (same SKU, same Part Number, same Model Number...) has a major design change/correction that resolves the microphone issue. I saw one a few days ago. On an older batch, the microphone is located on the left AND under the glass, MUFFLED, that is. On the newer batch, the microphone is located in the center, where the glass meets the aluminum AND there is a visible rectangular (small, but visible) opening for the microphone TO BREATHE!!! HAHAHA. Acer finally corrected the DESIGN FLAW. BUT Acer will claim that there is nothing wrong with your flawed designed A500!!! GO FIGURE. Suggestion? Try to force Acer to replace your STILL IN WARRANTY unit for you AND do everybody else a favor, as I have done, and contact the Better Business Bureau, your State Attorney General, the Federal Trade Commission, your Senators and everybody that you know who has an older batch of the A500. Acer's support is crap. Their customer service is crap and dumb. Their US operation is crap. They will remain crap until they replace the piece of crap THAT IS UNDER WARRANTY, a warranty that states the following actions to be taken in case of poor performance or design...
1. repair (unit is unrepairable)
2. replace
3. refund the amount you paid for this piece of crap
People, act. Don't just sit and complain.
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You sir, are a tool .. And completely wrong to boot. Verify facts, then rant - not the other way around.
I'm looking at my A500 right now, I can clearly see the microphone port at the top center (as you say is the "new" design - only bought mine a few weeks ago, but no idea when it was manufactured) and guess what - Microphone quality is rubbish. I'd love for you to be right (because then I would have a working mic!) but, you're not. Now get down off your soapbox.
To the OP,
I don't know what to tell you except to sit the tablet upward facing your instructor or whatever speaker is loudest in the room. Though I'm sure you're probably using it to type notes as well or whatnot? I would recommend a bluetooth mic but I don't think there is such a thing. The only one's I've seen are for camcorders and I'm guessing they are made specifically for them somehow. I feel your pain
Unfortunately, this may not be the best tablet to do what you want to do with it. If you just bought it, maybe you can return it and try something else? The Transformer is roughly the same price and I haven't heard of people complaining about the mic on that. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 may also be a better choice in terms of mics, but it is more expensive. The Galaxy Tab Plus is coming out and should be $400, in case you don't need a 10" screen. If you want or need the USB port, there's the Toshiba Thrive.
Good Luck.
rokimbo said:
The newer batch of the A500 (same SKU, same Part Number, same Model Number...) has a major design change/correction that resolves the microphone issue. I saw one a few days ago. On an older batch, the microphone is located on the left AND under the glass, MUFFLED, that is. On the newer batch, the microphone is located in the center, where the glass meets the aluminum AND there is a visible rectangular (small, but visible) opening for the microphone TO BREATHE!!! HAHAHA. Acer finally corrected the DESIGN FLAW. BUT Acer will claim that there is nothing wrong with your flawed designed A500!!! GO FIGURE. Suggestion? Try to force Acer to replace your STILL IN WARRANTY unit for you AND do everybody else a favor, as I have done, and contact the Better Business Bureau, your State Attorney General, the Federal Trade Commission, your Senators and everybody that you know who has an older batch of the A500. Acer's support is crap. Their customer service is crap and dumb. Their US operation is crap. They will remain crap until they replace the piece of crap THAT IS UNDER WARRANTY, a warranty that states the following actions to be taken in case of poor performance or design...
1. repair (unit is unrepairable)
2. replace
3. refund the amount you paid for this piece of crap
People, act. Don't just sit and complain.
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Where did you get this information? I got my A500 the day it was released in the U.S (thus, the old batch) and my mic is in the center. I have never seen an A500 mic under the glass on the left, that's more than likely the light sensor you're talking about.
Furthermore, afaik the mics on all of them are the same. I think the problem some people have is that they think of them like phone mics (multidirectional) and they seem to be (whether by design or not), unidirectional for the most part, capturing sound from directly in front; adding insult to injury, they are noise cancelling so it actively filters background 'noise' which in some cases, consist of the person's voice. In essence, I've found it great if I act like I'm using the tablet to make a video call and speak loud and clearly, but otherwise it's sub par for use as a recording device. I use it for Voice actions and it works exceptionally well, better than my phone - ironically.
I'm no sound engineer, but I bet that if Acer allowed 1 of the mics to turn off or allowed echoing (through a setting in the OS) or put in a mic boost setting, the perceived quality would go up exponentially. This is a case of technology working against itself.
very nice and informative thread
very nice and informative thread. Thanks to you who have contributed. Exciting the understanding that it is not a hardware problem but a software problem. My mic is also bad even when I use an external headset. Good to understand that even if you put an external headset remains the built-in mic active.
mikkel
First post here, and it's a slightly negative one so apologies. I got my Z3C last Thursday, set it up over the weekend, and thought everything was great. Then I noticed that there was significant play when I put my headphones in - basically the headphone jack could wobble around. I have owned lots of different items with 3.5mm ports in and none have ever felt like this-when inserted it felt like the bottom of the jack was able to move around. To be fair the sound does not seem effected-no distortion etc.
So I packaged it up, thinking it was clearly defective, and sent it back to Clove, who to be fair had been good up until that point. They received it today and have emailed me to say that they have looked at three other Z3Cs and they are all the same.
I contacted Sony tonight and they say that there shouldn't be significant moment, but I wanted to check here- has anyone noticed significant movement from the headphone jack when plugged in? I am annoyed that I could well end up with a phone that I am not happy to keep, but that I would feel uncomfortable selling on as in my eyes it is faulty.
Thanks for any advice/experiences you can share.
Ross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT2urkUsSiM
Seriously though, mine is fine.
I hadn't noticed, so I plugged in my headphones, wiggled the connector and could see a tiny bit of movement. Plugged them into my Z1, and see the exact same amount of movement.
Non-issue, at least for me!
LadFromWales85 said:
I hadn't noticed, so I plugged in my headphones, wiggled the connector and could see a tiny bit of movement. Plugged them into my Z1, and see the exact same amount of movement.
Non-issue, at least for me!
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I'm not talking about tiny movement- I have compared with a Note 3 and a Note 10.1, as well an IPad, and while there is very minor movement., the jack feels firmly held in place. This is not the case on the Z3C. I wish I had filmed the issue before sending it back, but didn't think there would be any issue with a refund as to me it was clearly not standard.
Ross_ntu said:
First post here, and it's a slightly negative one so apologies. I got my Z3C last Thursday, set it up over the weekend, and thought everything was great. Then I noticed that there was significant play when I put my headphones in - basically the headphone jack could wobble around. I have owned lots of different items with 3.5mm ports in and none have ever felt like this-when inserted it felt like the bottom of the jack was able to move around. To be fair the sound does not seem effected-no distortion etc.
So I packaged it up, thinking it was clearly defective, and sent it back to Clove, who to be fair had been good up until that point. They received it today and have emailed me to say that they have looked at three other Z3Cs and they are all the same.
I contacted Sony tonight and they say that there shouldn't be significant moment, but I wanted to check here- has anyone noticed significant movement from the headphone jack when plugged in? I am annoyed that I could well end up with a phone that I am not happy to keep, but that I would feel uncomfortable selling on as in my eyes it is faulty.
Thanks for any advice/experiences you can share.
Ross
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Well, I didn't notice any movement in my Z3c until after a couple of weeks my music kept pausing. Upon further inspection it seems that any movement in the headphone jack causes my Z3c to connect/disconnect the headphones. Today, over a matter of minutes, this degraded and my headphones are now unusable as the slightest movement causes my headphones to connect/disconnect. I'm really not happy with this and expect a phone to be built to last more than two weeks.
Film it, want to compare
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Ross_ntu said:
First post here, and it's a slightly negative one so apologies. I got my Z3C last Thursday, set it up over the weekend, and thought everything was great. Then I noticed that there was significant play when I put my headphones in - basically the headphone jack could wobble around. I have owned lots of different items with 3.5mm ports in and none have ever felt like this-when inserted it felt like the bottom of the jack was able to move around. To be fair the sound does not seem effected-no distortion etc.
So I packaged it up, thinking it was clearly defective, and sent it back to Clove, who to be fair had been good up until that point. They received it today and have emailed me to say that they have looked at three other Z3Cs and they are all the same.
I contacted Sony tonight and they say that there shouldn't be significant moment, but I wanted to check here- has anyone noticed significant movement from the headphone jack when plugged in? I am annoyed that I could well end up with a phone that I am not happy to keep, but that I would feel uncomfortable selling on as in my eyes it is faulty.
Thanks for any advice/experiences you can share.
Ross
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Mine moves also back-forth, left-right while on my iPhone it is solid. But I don't see your issue, if it's a defect (and not by design) then you have a two years warranty
Why send it back now? As long as the sound is good?
I've notice a tiny play in mine too but I believe that its cuz the waterproof. There is a plastic stuff inside and that make move the eraphone jacks
I can confirm the slight movement on my Z3C's headphone jack too. And yes, there's some sort of plastic jacket inside the jack, this what makes the headphone plug wobble. It's a non-issue, pretty sure it's part of the waterproofing design.
difto said:
if it's a defect (and not by design) then you have a two years warranty
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But what if I've rooted it already?
I checked a z3c, z3 and a z2 at a store today, z3c has the most play of them all, z2 is the most stable. Really that is the only part of the z3/z3c that feels cheap and badly made.
This is part of the "waterproofing design", but i suspect that it is a faulty design and this gap is actually responsible for the many water damaged z3c phones. People report that they just submerged it for a minute or two in fresh water (under a tap, or it fell in a toilet... lol) and the screen died for all of them, the phone continued working but the screen was dead.
djeley said:
Well, I didn't notice any movement in my Z3c until after a couple of weeks my music kept pausing. Upon further inspection it seems that any movement in the headphone jack causes my Z3c to connect/disconnect the headphones. Today, over a matter of minutes, this degraded and my headphones are now unusable as the slightest movement causes my headphones to connect/disconnect. I'm really not happy with this and expect a phone to be built to last more than two weeks.
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Today when I started to cycle from university towards home my music kept pausing. First i thought someone else was using my spotify and I put my phone to airplane mode but it kept happening and I noticed this same movement. When it tilts from back towards front music pauses and now it is also unusable just as above text states. Has anyone contacted their services about warranty? I would like to know what have they answered. I usually listen music from an hour to two per day so obviously this is an issue for me.
EDIT: So i went to the service and they said that headphone jack can be broken in two if it is targeted at with too much power. And if this is the case warranty will not recover it so it is fixable but customer will pay. In any other case warranty should cover it. They their service would take two weeks..
NakedGun said:
Today when I started to cycle from university towards home my music kept pausing. First i thought someone else was using my spotify and I put my phone to airplane mode but it kept happening and I noticed this same movement. When it tilts from back towards front music pauses and now it is also unusable just as above text states. Has anyone contacted their services about warranty? I would like to know what have they answered. I usually listen music from an hour to two per day so obviously this is an issue for me.
EDIT: So i went to the service and they said that headphone jack can be broken in two if it is targeted at with too much power. And if this is the case warranty will not recover it so it is fixable but customer will pay. In any other case warranty should cover it. They their service would take two weeks..
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I have the exact problem. I just sent it in for warranty repair. They said they will check if it's user damage and move on from there.
c19932 said:
I have the exact problem. I just sent it in for warranty repair. They said they will check if it's user damage and move on from there.
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Same happened to me, but as my phone already fell twice and I have signs of it on its back, I won't get any repair under warranty... I guess it's because of the plastic around... There's no sign of damage around it, but when I move the jack music stops suddenly. That's bad
I had the exact same error of a loose jack then music pausing. Then the headphones weren't picked up at all. sent it to sony, they fixed it all fine. No problems
I have the exact same problem, and I see it as a problem since the music doesn't work properly for the second time since I got the phone.
The first time, I sent the phone to the after sale service and it was repaired within the warranty limits, it was three months ago. Now, the problem occurs again and I'm a bit disappointed. If I can't use my phone for three weeks every two or three months, what's the point of getting a flagship phone from Sony ?
I am also having the same problem.
Thought I was lucky not having a cracked glass back/screen so far...alas
I believe they also reset your phone during this process? Does the backup save and restore everything?
I have/had the same problem until it stopped working completely. Sent it to Sony today morning they told me on chat that the repair will take 5-7 days...
toshin9 said:
I am also having the same problem.
Thought I was lucky not having a cracked glass back/screen so far...alas
I believe they also reset your phone during this process? Does the backup save and restore everything?
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Well you should factory reset your phone anyway, before you are sending it for repair. That's the first thing to do when you have any problems with your phone...
The back up saves all messages, phone calls, phonebook, apps settings etc. so yeah, everything I would say...
Same here... I'll return the phone next week to the retailer. Let's see what they'll say.
So, after my headphone jack got broken and I sent it for repair, (which only took less than 1 week btw) the phone is not waterproof Anyway I can listen to music again
EDIT: I am an idiot, was testing it with opened flap lol, the phone is actually waterproof