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I got an Xperia Z the other day and....I love it to bits AND regret getting it. I love it because it's a looker and the UI is also close to AOSP. The fact that it's shock proof, dust proof and water proof helps a lot as I have to carry it to school everyday.
However, the phone really heats up, even if I'm generally browsing, watching videos or playing video games. By 'really' heats up, I mean the top part of it becomes extremely hot to touch, so much so that I often have to keep it aside to cool down. If I make a call immediately after this happens, my ear goes from pink to red. Also, the speakers, camera and screen colors are underwhelming to say the least.
What bothers me the most though, is the fact that this phone may never get 'offcial' custom rom support from popular devs, for example CM and AOSPA, because Sony are slow with updates, and with Key Lime Pie probably coming next month....I'll be disappointed if I'm unable to run it immediately on my phone. Now, I'm in no way asking developers to do this, but I'm asking if it'll be popular amongst developers in the long term. Sony are proactively supporting custom dev, but I don't know if that's going to help the XZ's case.
I'm coming from an HD2 and I regularly use my Nexus 7, so that might help you understand what I mean. I'll probably sell this and get a Nexus 4 / HTC One / Galaxy S4 depending on the replies I get in this thread. Please give me your honest opinions on this, thanks!
Zorua said:
I got an Xperia Z the other day and....I love it to bits AND regret getting it. I love it because it's a looker and the UI is also close to AOSP. The fact that it's shock proof, dust proof and water proof helps a lot as I have to carry it to school everyday.
However, the phone really heats up, even if I'm generally browsing, watching videos or playing video games. By 'really' heats up, I mean the top part of it becomes extremely hot to touch, so much so that I often have to keep it aside to cool down. If I make a call immediately after this happens, my ear goes from pink to red. Also, the speakers, camera and screen colors are underwhelming to say the least.
What bothers me the most though, is the fact that this phone may never get 'offcial' custom rom support from popular devs, for example CM and AOSPA, because Sony are slow with updates, and with Key Lime Pie probably coming next month....I'll be disappointed if I'm unable to run it immediately on my phone. Now, I'm in no way asking developers to do this, but I'm asking if it'll be popular amongst developers in the long term. Sony are proactively supporting custom dev, but I don't know if that's going to help the XZ's case.
I'm coming from an HD2 and I regularly use my Nexus 7, so that might help you understand what I mean. I'll probably sell this and get a Nexus 4 / HTC One / Galaxy S4 depending on the replies I get in this thread. Please give me your honest opinions on this, thanks!
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The heating issue is common because the device is thin and the processor is a beast. My previous phones had same issue, but I think this is normal because the chasis is thin and probably heat doesn't easily ventilate due to the water resistant feature, this is just a theory.
As for development, well the device has been available for about 2 months and already there are many custom roms for this. Personally, I am running the unofficial CM 10.1. Almost everything works expect for the camera yet and forgot to mention its very very smooth. There are great devs developing for this device and I think the future of this looks promising. Android 4.1 and the update 4.2.2 does almost everything and runs very smooth so why rush for next version. Sony has done a great job with their UI, unlike Samsung's girlish touchwiz UI.
All and all its a good phone, but ofcoz it needs improvement e.g. speaker, display. Then again no phone is perfect. If camera is not so important for you till it get fixed, try the unofficial CM 10.1, you will love it and its still in alpha stages of development.
The thing is Sony brings really good firmwares, it makes it hard for devs to make them even better. Actually Sony's firmwares are already completely optimized for the phone. It's not like Samsung with all the buggy releases.
About key lime pie, you won't see it on any device immediately after release, only nexus devices will get it really fast.
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krabappel2548 said:
The thing is Sony brings really good firmwares, it makes it hard for devs to make them even better. Actually Sony's firmwares are already completely optimized for the phone. It's not like Samsung with all the buggy releases.
About key lime pie, you won't see it on any device immediately after release, only nexus devices will get it really fast.
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Sony seem to do a real good job with their firmwares. HTC's code for the One X was a joke..... bugs all over the place.
Rchard said:
The heating issue is common because the device is thin and the processor is a beast. My previous phones had same issue, but I think this is normal because the chasis is thin and probably heat doesn't easily ventilate due to the water resistant feature, this is just a theory.
As for development, well the device has been available for about 2 months and already there are many custom roms for this. Personally, I am running the unofficial CM 10.1. Almost everything works expect for the camera yet and forgot to mention its very very smooth. There are great devs developing for this device and I think the future of this looks promising. Android 4.1 and the update 4.2.2 does almost everything and runs very smooth so why rush for next version. Sony has done a great job with their UI, unlike Samsung's girlish touchwiz UI.
All and all its a good phone, but ofcoz it needs improvement e.g. speaker, display. Then again no phone is perfect. If camera is not so important for you till it get fixed, try the unofficial CM 10.1, you will love it and its still in alpha stages of development.
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Well yes, I do need the camera. And I've been using a One X lately, the heat level isn't nearly as close to what my XZ produces. The One X does get warm, but not hot. I've also used an N4, which as far as I know has the same processor, and it doesn't heat up at all.
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The thing is Sony brings really good firmwares, it makes it hard for devs to make them even better. Actually Sony's firmwares are already completely optimized for the phone. It's not like Samsung with all the buggy releases.
About key lime pie, you won't see it on any device immediately after release, only nexus devices will get it really fast.
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Well, that's fine but Sony are very slow with their updates. Even the Galaxy S2 has an official 4.2.1 update, which it received before the XZ was even released.
I like custom roms because of the amount of customization and choices they offer, plus the statusbar and navbar look ugly, and the navbar is particularly huge. I'd much rather have a buggy custom rom over a stable, ugly stock rom.
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Well yes, I do need the camera. And I've been using a One X lately, the heat level isn't nearly as close to what my XZ produces. The One X does get warm, but not hot. I've also used an N4, which as far as I know has the same processor, and it doesn't heat up at all.
Well, that's fine but Sony are very slow with their updates. Even the Galaxy S2 has an official 4.2.1 update, which it received before the XZ was even released.
I like custom roms because of the amount of customization and choices they offer, plus the statusbar and navbar look ugly, and the navbar is particularly huge. I'd much rather have a buggy custom rom over a stable, ugly stock rom.
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Well there already are some custom roms
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I think you have wrong information.
1-XZ and N4 has same board not same cpu(xz has fusion3).
2- galaxy S2 has official 4.1.2 not 4.2.1
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My phone heats up, sure I think any phone does this.
Mine doesn't heat up anywhere near you're describing. It gets pretty much mellow when browsing, and only warm when playing games
And it's stone cold when you're on the phone.
Try using a small. Case it will protect you from heat. Not the phone itself though x)
Also, once the groundwork is done for something like CM bringup, we don't have to wait for Sony. Not when we have the same SoC as the Nexus 4 AND we have CodeAurora.
Also, Sony is getting much better with updates for their newer devices.
Last but not least, Sony cooperates more with CM developers than any other manufacturer. A LOT of former Samsung developers moved over to Sony in the past few months - you DO realize that every single Exynos4 (International GS2/Note/GS3/Note2 devices) CM maintainer now owns a Sony except espenfjo? (espen has been too busy to take on new devices lately, and hasn't even really worked on his older devices either.)
krabappel2548 said:
The thing is Sony brings really good firmwares, it makes it hard for devs to make them even better. Actually Sony's firmwares are already completely optimized for the phone. It's not like Samsung with all the buggy releases.
About key lime pie, you won't see it on any device immediately after release, only nexus devices will get it really fast.
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Coming from a long range of HTC and Samsung devices I must admit that I don't have the same need for flashing a new ROM evry second day, to find out if there are less bugs or better battery capacity. The stock Xperia Z ROMs seems superior to any creation from Samsung or HTC
My phone last for two days, everything on autosync and almost 5h screen time. My S2 and S3 would have died more than 35h earlier with the same usage.
I'm now running this stock based custom rom with a locked bootloader. The XZ is by far my best smartphone experience ever.
Entropy512 said:
Also, once the groundwork is done for something like CM bringup, we don't have to wait for Sony. Not when we have the same SoC as the Nexus 4 AND we have CodeAurora.
Also, Sony is getting much better with updates for their newer devices.
Last but not least, Sony cooperates more with CM developers than any other manufacturer. A LOT of former Samsung developers moved over to Sony in the past few months - you DO realize that every single Exynos4 (International GS2/Note/GS3/Note2 devices) CM maintainer now owns a Sony except espenfjo? (espen has been too busy to take on new devices lately, and hasn't even really worked on his older devices either.)
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Wow, I did not know that. Does that mean we're going to get more custom roms on the XZ, than say, the HTC One or Galaxy S4? Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my questions.
Zorua said:
Wow, I did not know that. Does that mean we're going to get more custom roms on the XZ, than say, the HTC One or Galaxy S4? Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my questions.
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Probably.
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Probably.
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I doubt it - just based on past experiences. Samsung will sell so many Galaxy S4 units that there's bound to be more custom roms than the Xperia Z. Flagship HTC devices generally have many custom roms as well, even without S-Off. Hopefully I'm wrong!
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paalkr said:
The stock Xperia Z ROMs seems superior to any creation from Samsung or HTC
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To be honest, after using CM for a long time on Samsung devices ( because Touchwiz... ) - I have to say that Sony XZ firmware is very close to AOSP. Very light with minimal amount of modifications. That's how you make an Android skin. I haven't even rooted my device because frankly i don't see the need to do it right now. Just waiting for fully working CM, then i'll try it.
Zorua said:
Wow, I did not know that. Does that mean we're going to get more custom roms on the XZ, than say, the HTC One or Galaxy S4? Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my questions.
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No. You'll definitely see more custom Roms for Galaxy S4. Samsung is, and for a while will be much more popular than Sony. They'll sell huge amount of S4 - there's no doubt about it.
But quantity doesn't equal quality. Look what devs like Entropy have to say about this. We can expect CM working flawlessly on XZ after a while, which was impossible on certain Samsung phones due to lack of sources. So i'd rather have one, fully working CM release than 25 barely working "custom roms" that are no different from each other anyway.
Exactly!!!
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Zorua said:
Well yes, I do need the camera. And I've been using a One X lately, the heat level isn't nearly as close to what my XZ produces. The One X does get warm, but not hot. I've also used an N4, which as far as I know has the same processor, and it doesn't heat up at all.
Well, that's fine but Sony are very slow with their updates. Even the Galaxy S2 has an official 4.2.1 update, which it received before the XZ was even released.
I like custom roms because of the amount of customization and choices they offer, plus the statusbar and navbar look ugly, and the navbar is particularly huge. I'd much rather have a buggy custom rom over a stable, ugly stock rom.
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You want fast updates? Get a nexus. Tge Z doesn't live up to your expectations? Sell it and buy something else.
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luisoman2000 said:
You want fast updates? Get a nexus. Tge Z doesn't live up to your expectations? Sell it and buy something else.
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Thanks a lot for your valuable inputs, captain obvious!
On a serious note though, thanks a lot for all your suggestions, guys. Keep 'em coming. I think I'm going to keep the Z, can't get myself to sell it.
Akiainavas said:
No. You'll definitely see more custom Roms for Galaxy S4. Samsung is, and for a while will be much more popular than Sony. They'll sell huge amount of S4 - there's no doubt about it.
But quantity doesn't equal quality. Look what devs like Entropy have to say about this. We can expect CM working flawlessly on XZ after a while, which was impossible on certain Samsung phones due to lack of sources. So i'd rather have one, fully working CM release than 25 barely working "custom roms" that are no different from each other anyway.
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CM Developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4
Maybe this time SGS4 won't have so many custom roms...
tbh.. i want to sell the nexus 4 and get the xperia z.. ive kinda been ripped off.. nexus 4 launched jan , cost 4.3k now costs 3k??? and xperia z launched march cost 5.6k now costs 4.3k... the pricing is near the nexus 4 .. i f i just waited.. ugh im so lazy.. i hope to see you guys on the next sony phone in 2 years (2015) < Xperia Z3 plz?
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Hello guys
This device was launched Here in Brazil a few months ago.
I would like one onwer's feedback about this device cause i wanna buy
tks
MJ
mjraogr said:
Hello guys
This device was launched Here in Brazil a few months ago.
I would like one onwer's feedback about this device cause i wanna buy
tks
MJ
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The phone is OK for a normal user It has all most all the features of a smart phone and i am using it for the last 6 moths didn't face any problems,i feel that MIUI software is not so user friendly in the beginning but once you get used to it you will like it.
kvrangarao said:
The phone is OK for a normal user It has all most all the features of a smart phone and i am using it for the last 6 moths didn't face any problems,i feel that MIUI software is not so user friendly in the beginning but once you get used to it you will like it.
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Tks @kvrangarao for reply
I already use MIUI in another device. It's really good and like it so much
The performance for normal use without force hardware its enough for me
Tks one more time
Beware the enormous lag, the ROM is extremely slow, the phone wont be upgraded to Android 5, it will remain on 4.4.4 KK.
Miui 7 is really a 4.4.4 for this device. (only a few Xiaomi phones will get Lollipop)
I have a Redmi 2 for 5 months, Xiaomi iare not planning to develop Lollipop for this smartphone.
gabrielaltea said:
Beware the enormous lag, the ROM is extremely slow, the phone wont be upgraded to Android 5, it will remain on 4.4.4 KK.
Miui 7 is really a 4.4.4 for this device. (only a few Xiaomi phones will get Lollipop)
I have a Redmi 2 for 5 months, Xiaomi iare not planning to develop Lollipop for this smartphone.
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Hello @gabrielaltea tks for reply
Which MI app or system process include in Redmi 2 are you got lag? Can you explain better?
About update for Android 5, usually i try to analyze custom roms available for each device and others development support existent . We have some development in progress like CM 5.1 with some issues to fix
MJ
Any development thread for this phone?
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The phone is great in it's price range!
Hi! I've been using the Redmi2 4G version for a couple of months now, and I think I'm ready to give an opinion on it, to the best of my abilities.
For this price range, it's actually very tough to beat the Redmi 2, with specs. The looks are premium, you won't feel like using a cheap Chinese-build phone, it's actually well made. I have an issue with the back panel finish, it's rather slippery despite being matte. I'm pretty sure you would have researched on it's specs, so you would know, that it is THE DEAL for it's price category.
The back camera is pretty good, macro mode is specifically good, but night photography isn't that great. Front camera's performance is rather satisfactory.
Battery is pretty good, lasts a day for me, with moderate usage.
There are NO heating issues with my phone. Off course, if you will play Asphalt for a couple of hours straight, it is bound to heat up.
Display is pretty intriguing for a budget phone.
If you've used MIUI in the past, you would know of it's resemblance with the iOS. While MIUI is pleasing to the eyes, and pretty simple to use and learn, I would add, that it's best for the 2GB RAM phones. MIUI with a 1GB RAM phone sucks BIG time, so, yeah, Redmi2 has issues here, lagging, crashing apps at times.
Now, since I prefer the stock-android feel better, I have flashed mine with a pretty stable CM11 ROM.
If you're a heavy gamer, I recommend you to browse phones in higher price ranges. Redmi2 is a good everyday usage phone, but certainly NOT the one for heavy gamers.
Long cut short:- Go for it, it is pretty awesome. P.S. - I don't know if Redmi 2's Prime version(2GB RAM) is available in your country, if it is, rather go for that.
Cheers.
rg666 said:
Hi! I've been using the Redmi2 4G version for a couple of months now, and I think I'm ready to give an opinion on it, to the best of my abilities.
For this price range, it's actually very tough to beat the Redmi 2, with specs. The looks are premium, you won't feel like using a cheap Chinese-build phone, it's actually well made. I have an issue with the back panel finish, it's rather slippery despite being matte. I'm pretty sure you would have researched on it's specs, so you would know, that it is THE DEAL for it's price category.
The back camera is pretty good, macro mode is specifically good, but night photography isn't that great. Front camera's performance is rather satisfactory.
Battery is pretty good, lasts a day for me, with moderate usage.
There are NO heating issues with my phone. Off course, if you will play Asphalt for a couple of hours straight, it is bound to heat up.
Display is pretty intriguing for a budget phone.
If you've used MIUI in the past, you would know of it's resemblance with the iOS. While MIUI is pleasing to the eyes, and pretty simple to use and learn, I would add, that it's best for the 2GB RAM phones. MIUI with a 1GB RAM phone sucks BIG time, so, yeah, Redmi2 has issues here, lagging, crashing apps at times.
Now, since I prefer the stock-android feel better, I have flashed mine with a pretty stable CM11 ROM.
If you're a heavy gamer, I recommend you to browse phones in higher price ranges. Redmi2 is a good everyday usage phone, but certainly NOT the one for heavy gamers.
Long cut short:- Go for it, it is pretty awesome. P.S. - I don't know if Redmi 2's Prime version(2GB RAM) is available in your country, if it is, rather go for that.
Cheers.
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Tks @rg666 for this feed
Really i got it attention and look for Redmi 2 cause the specs and good price tag. I use today a Quadcore cortex armv7 snapdragon 200 , but without version updates upper JB 1 (4.1.2) we waiting so far , but the factory strategically isn't willing to put lot of money for invest licences .
This situation made me take a decision to start development at point to create my own roms
I like very much about MIUI, used on my own others devices ( Defy Mb526 Atrix 4G) . One of my works development was inspired by MIUI V6 , creating my design and ported some MI apps for package
I really have interest to get one Redmi. Here just Redmi 2 it's avaliable in local market but others devices will be launched soon like MI 4
Cheers
One more thing
mjraogr said:
Tks @rg666 for this feed
Really i got it attention and look for Redmi 2 cause the specs and good price tag. I use today a Quadcore cortex armv7 snapdragon 200 , but without version updates upper JB 1 (4.1.2) we waiting so far , but the factory strategically isn't willing to put lot of money for invest licences .
This situation made me take a decision to start development at point to create my own roms
I like very much about MIUI, used on my own others devices ( Defy Mb526 Atrix 4G) . One of my works development was inspired by MIUI V6 , creating my design and ported some MI apps for package
I really have interest to get one Redmi. Here just Redmi 2 it's avaliable in local market but others devices will be launched soon like MI 4
Cheers
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Don't expect Lollipop update for Redmi2. The Mi team isn't quite interested in giving Lollipop updates. So, that's quite a letdown.
I am facing a problem with the phone, there is poor microphone sound at other end. Anyone know any solution to this issue? Please help
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Don't expect Lollipop update for Redmi2. The Mi team isn't quite interested in giving Lollipop updates. So, that's quite a letdown.
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Maybe the Mi Team in not interested in Redmi2, but there's something on the stage right now. This CM 12.1 release is really awesome:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-cyanogenmod-unofficial-builds-t3200883
drsgon said:
I am facing a problem with the phone, there is poor microphone sound at other end. Anyone know any solution to this issue? Please help
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Did tou try change roms? Like MIUI to CM or CM to MIUI. If yes you can change some options in development menu tried search on google. :good:
rg666 said:
Don't expect Lollipop update for Redmi2. The Mi team isn't quite interested in giving Lollipop updates. So, that's quite a letdown.
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I have information published in local news homepages that the Redmi 2 will be updated for MI 7 and avaliable in "Betta Supported devices List"
You can check here , but in portugues language
cheers
This is the M7 incremental Development avaliable
Redmi 2 Official dowloads
I'm one of the first buyers here in Brazil. On the launching event, the MIUI Brazilian website got bugged and fewer people was able to buy (I'm one of them, hacking the page).
I got a few complains:
the HDR Camera is laggy as hell when I take pictures.
There's no app drawer.
Sometimes I'm unable to unlock the phone, because of lag (I think). Seriously, this is annoying.
When phone gets too slow, when I go to the home screen the interface reloads itself.
Playing games like Fallout Shelter is a big problem, lagging as hell.
1GB RAM isn't enough for the phone (for me, at least) .
Sometimes the phone heats so much.
The phone has a x64 architecture, but the MIUI is 32 bits. Sounds like a waste of processing power.
There's no support forum for Brazilian users in the official boards.
No Lollipop support and no plans to receive update.
Things I liked:
Built-in security, like Antivirus and cleaning app.
The interface is so beautiful.
LTE (4G here in Brazil) for BOTH sim cards.
I can Easily switch wich sim card to make a call, send SMS or use Mobile data.
The frontal camera has a special facial recognition, telling the age, for example.
The phone charges super fast (2200 mAh battery).
It's cheap, compared to other phones. It costs less than $ 150 (at the time I bought it).
I don't think that I'm a hard user for this phone (seriously, I didn't even play so much on the phone). I know it's a mid-term smart phone. But the MIUI lag is annoying (I got crazy sometimes). I tried to use the beta versions of the MIUI rom, tried to use performance scripts, Greenify, other camera apps.
Now I'm using a customized CM 12.1 for the device, to see if I'm able to use easily the phone, like driving in my car, got lost and easily open Waze or Google Maps to see where I need to go. Actually, I need to stop and park the car, clean current apps (some times reboot) to properly use.
nice reply @juliovedovatto
i have for several days a 2GB RAM / 16 GB ROM version and I can say that I have none of the below mentioned lagging problems.
What else is different in my setup is that I am already on MIUI 7 developer.
I should admit also that I did not play any game.
Coming from an Iphone I am kind of used of not having an app drawer and MIUI 7 is pretty eye candy...
Right now I am considering if CM (11 or 12) are worth the try... I think the main gain will be a battery life increase (at least from my other experience with CM), but I cannot see any other benefits, at least for me. I should study a bit more.
aaaah... battery lasts ~1 day. less if you use a lot the screen... max so far for me is 1 1/2 days
bejenaru said:
nice reply @juliovedovatto
i have for several days a 2GB RAM / 16 GB ROM version and I can say that I have none of the below mentioned lagging problems.
What else is different in my setup is that I am already on MIUI 7 developer.
I should admit also that I did not play any game.
Coming from an Iphone I am kind of used of not having an app drawer and MIUI 7 is pretty eye candy...
Right now I am considering if CM (11 or 12) are worth the try... I think the main gain will be a battery life increase (at least from my other experience with CM), but I cannot see any other benefits, at least for me. I should study a bit more.
aaaah... battery lasts ~1 day. less if you use a lot the screen... max so far for me is 1 1/2 days
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If you want to try the CM roms, I need to advise you: see what model your phone is. Actually the CM roms supports only HM2014811-HM2014813. The compiled baseband maybe does not work for you Redmi model.
There's a chance of you apply the rom and it does not have support for LTE networks. Like my case, my phone is HM2014819 and I discovered this misfortune today, after reading tons of posts and articles and flashing 10 times my phone
The good news that the performance of CM is far superior than the MIUI roms.
I own a 2014813 :angel:
nevertheless the battery life i see as the main gain of CM vs MIUI. Is there something else worthing, I mean like really making a difference?
juliovedovatto said:
I'm one of the first buyers here in Brazil. On the launching event, the MIUI Brazilian website got bugged and fewer people was able to buy (I'm one of them, hacking the page).
I got a few complains:
the HDR Camera is laggy as hell when I take pictures.
There's no app drawer.
Sometimes I'm unable to unlock the phone, because of lag (I think). Seriously, this is annoying.
When phone gets too slow, when I go to the home screen the interface reloads itself.
Playing games like Fallout Shelter is a big problem, lagging as hell.
1GB RAM isn't enough for the phone (for me, at least) .
Sometimes the phone heats so much.
The phone has a x64 architecture, but the MIUI is 32 bits. Sounds like a waste of processing power.
There's no support forum for Brazilian users in the official boards.
No Lollipop support and no plans to receive update.
Things I liked:
Built-in security, like Antivirus and cleaning app.
The interface is so beautiful.
LTE (4G here in Brazil) for BOTH sim cards.
I can Easily switch wich sim card to make a call, send SMS or use Mobile data.
The frontal camera has a special facial recognition, telling the age, for example.
The phone charges super fast (2200 mAh battery).
It's cheap, compared to other phones. It costs less than $ 150 (at the time I bought it).
I don't think that I'm a hard user for this phone (seriously, I didn't even play so much on the phone). I know it's a mid-term smart phone. But the MIUI lag is annoying (I got crazy sometimes). I tried to use the beta versions of the MIUI rom, tried to use performance scripts, Greenify, other camera apps.
Now I'm using a customized CM 12.1 for the device, to see if I'm able to use easily the phone, like driving in my car, got lost and easily open Waze or Google Maps to see where I need to go. Actually, I need to stop and park the car, clean current apps (some times reboot) to properly use.
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Thanks @juliovedovatto for your feedback, have good experience and content for fixes report.
The Xiaomi Team recently replied me about issues that have been causing, lags and this report turn around the device performance, it's needed constant evolution to directing it in fixes updates. All of Redmi owner's can do it mentioning in Xiaomi support channels
They also informed that the objectives for now is update for MI7 and we will be wait this results!
gabrielaltea said:
Beware the enormous lag, the ROM is extremely slow, the phone wont be upgraded to Android 5, it will remain on 4.4.4 KK.
Miui 7 is really a 4.4.4 for this device. (only a few Xiaomi phones will get Lollipop)
I have a Redmi 2 for 5 months, Xiaomi iare not planning to develop Lollipop for this smartphone.
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What The [email protected]^%? I mean, Xiaomi Mi2 got Lollipop first and it's been around since 2013! What would they've been thinking, not to update lot newer devices? Where did you get the information that upgrade for Redmi 2 is not planned?
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Hello @gabrielaltea tks for reply
Which MI app or system process include in Redmi 2 are you got lag? Can you explain better?
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For example, when Skype is running on the background, it disconnects itself (and its icon disappears from notification line) and when I click its icon again, it opens as if I freshly opened it, loading everything again. It was locked in recent apps so it won't stop. But it will. Even when nothing else is running. Sometimes when I have browser and few other apps running at once (not many, two or three other apps) and a music player, sometimes the music randomly stops - it is killed for RAM even if it's locked (i absolutely hate this on MIUI but fortunately it happens quite rarely now, perhaps the last weekly update messed something up again).
MIUI is extremely RAM-hungry. I mean - if Windows XP can run on 512 MB RAM device and be perfectly usable even for complex work, what is this supposed to be? And with Cyanogen on my Redmi 2, there is still buttload of free RAM when I have several apps opened just like before on MIUI. Currently I'm running CM12 Lollipop ROM made by Zwiliev which I installed today, when I finally got tired of MIUI. And since some V6 build, Mass Storage disappeared so there is no sane way to connect a phone as a flash drive. For me, Cyanogen solved all those things, and many more that I don't feel like writing down here.
On the other hand, the Redmi 2 itself is a decent phone. With very nice headphone output quality - the best of all phones I've ever had. The camera is pretty good, too. The display is beautiful - i thought that it is nuts to have 1024xSomething resolution on a device this small but it really looks very good. And MIUI has in-built root capability, at least. Wifi is powerful enough to have signal where my previous smartphone was already out of range. Replaceable battery and memory card slot. The hardware is indeed very very good for those money so if you don't mind using Cyanogen, buy it
Yay, this is gonna be my tenth post so finally I can send feedback to ROM developers (AT LONG LAST! WHICH PORK HEAD'S IDEA WAS THIS?)
First, I'll tell you a story. So, a year ago my old Sony Xperia U broke, it refused to boot and had a broken screen. My dad told me and my brother to get in the car because we're going to get us new phones. When we arrived to the nearest T-Mobile center me and my brother went on to search for a new phone and my brother liked the Z3 and I thought that the S6 was better. So, I decided that I want sn S6 so my brother also wanted one. We both got an S6 and went out of the store. Fast forward to about 2 or 3 months ago. When I got home from school, I picked up my phone to go read some news on AA. I tried to fire it up, but it wouldn't. I let it charge for 10 mins and when I took it out of the charger it was boiling hot. I left it to cool down. When I again tried to boot it up, it showed the Galaxy S6 logo and then a loud beep and then a screen off and nothing. Later that week me and my mom took it to the repair shop. The diagnosed the problem after 5 mins and said that there's a problem with my motherboard and that it only occurs with Samsung devices. They also said that there are two fixes, the first one would be to let it be on charge for a day or two and the second one would be to replace the motherboard. I took my phone home and let it charge for about a day. When I took it of the charger it was working! Fast forward to about a week ago. Again, there was a problem with my phone. It was suffering from extreme lag and unresponsivnes. We again took it to the repair shop and the told us that my phone has a big software problem and that they should be able to fix it. I gave them my phone and they said that we should return after an hour. So we did, and my phone was working.
Now, I'll list a few reasons why shouldn't you buy a Galaxy S6 or any other Samsung phone:
1. Touchwiz UI
There are 2 groups regarding Touchwiz; Ones who like it and ones who don't. I, personally, would rather be in the 2nd group. The first group will always say how Touchwiz is beutiful and cool, has vibrant and live colors, icons are great and all that stuff. The other group says Touchwiz is cartoonish, unpolished, not clean and bloated. While Touchwiz may look good, it certainly isn't as good as some other UIs. For an example, take Sony, their UI may be a little too robust, but it's nice to keep it as stock as possible.
2. Bloatware
Samsung's used to put a heck of a lot apps on their deivces, but they really shouldn't, because many people don't use these apps and whle they may be useful they are still bloatware apps. If you count all the packages that Galaxy S6 or S7 has, you'll get a number that's around 300-320, if you take a Nexus 6P, you'll see that it only has around 90-110 packages.
3. Huge battery drain
I don't know if you noticed or not, but in the new MM update, Doze doesn't work for many people. Try and see, it won't amaze you. And, I had to do some crazy stuff to get it to work, trust me, it's not that easy.
4. Lack of features
While Samsung may put all those cool and new features in their apps, they don't put any cool system features, like double-tap to wake or sleep or anything like that and that really annoys me and that's just not cool.
5. Incompatibility
This one is the most horrible one. I hate Exynos proccessors, they all use closed-source drivers, so no cool custom AOSP stuff is coming soon to the Exynos phones.
ROM developers that want to use the AOSP or CyanogenOS base, they have to code the drivers themselves. It's not a huge problem with Qualcomm proccessors, because they I think provide the drivers.
I know, i Wisch i had bought a Nexus.... but i've solved The Problem and i could Flash The Rom but than When i will boot there cames The Messege that The Kernel is not seandroid enforcing. Do you know what i have made false?
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i love Touchwiz UI
i love samsung galaxy software feature which you call Bloatware
battery is ok not very good for heavy use
you missed all the good points about the phone which easily outweighs all the bad points you found in the phone.
i find Nexus stock ROM boring unless you root and intstall custom ROMs
stock android is way behind on the feature front compared to the samsung phones you really dont need to root or install custom roms because most of the features you want are already there. yes the battery isnt that great but you can charge it 0 to 70 percent in 30 min. its one of the last good phones with IR blaster in it. it has a pretty loud speaker (louder than the s7). the chip might be exynos but it sure runs quick.
Every user experience is different as I see it, I've had this phone 10 months now, apart from the battery which could be a few more hours better it's been more than enough for me. Performance has been great, the only times I've had lag is when I've experimented with kernel changes otherwise my daily setup has been great, I very rarely reboot my phone, only when the battery has died or I'm flashing something in recovery. But like I said the points that you brought up are ambiguous, everyone's experience is going to be different.
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I know, i Wisch i had bought a Nexus.... but i've solved The Problem and i could Flash The Rom but than When i will boot there cames The Messege that The Kernel is not seandroid enforcing. Do you know what i have made false?
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There's a few reasons why this is happening:
1. You're not unlocked
2. Your bootloader isn't up to date
3. You don't have a custom kernel
4. Your phone model isn't correct
5. Your processor may not be compatible
Now its exacly the contary
It's BECAUSE my Bootloader is up to date. The cm 13 does not support android 6.0.1 bootloader so i had to to a downgrade to android 5.1.1 and flash again now its working on my own build
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1) It's not difficult to Google or look up YouTube videos on how TouchWiz operates.
2) See #1.
3) Agreed, for some reason the S6 and S6A have a huge drain that limits the screen on time to about a third of what it should be.
4) "...like double-tap to wake or sleep or anything like that and that really annoys me and that's just not cool."
"Just not cool?" Jesus Christ.
5) See #1.
How old are you?
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My first and last Samsung. Never again.
Every mobile on the market has its own pros and cons. I have never been a fanboy of Samsung and I never will be, matter of fact, I judge the devices not the OEM.
Coming to S6, I believe it's been a ground breaking device for Samsung, I have been using it for the last one year without any major issues. And all the issues listed in the OP like Touchwiz, Bloatware are well documented and you will know about them once you do proper research before purchase. If you had bought Xperia Z3, you would have been talking about the SD810 and its overheating issues, again well documented, so no mobile is perfect.
My two cents.
EDIT: having said all, my next device will most probably be a Nexus device, or may be Motorola.
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Every mobile on the market has its own pros and cons. I have never been a fanboy of Samsung and I never will be, matter of fact, I judge the devices not the OEM.
Coming to S6, I believe it's been a ground breaking device for Samsung, I have been using it for the last one year without any major issues. And all the issues listed in the OP like Touchwiz, Bloatware are well documented and you will know about them once you do proper research before purchase. If you had bought Xperia Z3, you would have been talking about the SD810 and its overheating issues, again well documented, so no mobile is perfect.
My two cents.
EDIT: having said all, my next device will most probably be a Nexus device, or may be Motorola.
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Why Moto? They just stated that they will not commit to monthly Android security updates and will only do major updates. That alone woukd make me avoid them nomatter how nice their devices are!
And what are the chances ot major updates now that they ate owned by Lenovo which also has many other phones. Companies with smaller amount of hardware for sale tend to be better with OS updates.
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I'm gonna go through with each of your five points:
1. Touchwiz UI
There are 2 groups regarding Touchwiz; Ones who like it and ones who don't. I, personally, would rather be in the 2nd group. The first group will always say how Touchwiz is beutiful and cool, has vibrant and live colors, icons are great and all that stuff. The other group says Touchwiz is cartoonish, unpolished, not clean and bloated. While Touchwiz may look good, it certainly isn't as good as some other UIs. For an example, take Sony, their UI may be a little too robust, but it's nice to keep it as stock as possible.
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Have you even tried using Good Lock? Ever since installing it, it's taken almost every single complaint I've had against TouchWiz and thrown it out the window.
2. Bloatware
Samsung's used to put a heck of a lot apps on their deivces, but they really shouldn't, because many people don't use these apps and whle they may be useful they are still bloatware apps. If you count all the packages that Galaxy S6 or S7 has, you'll get a number that's around 300-320, if you take a Nexus 6P, you'll see that it only has around 90-110 packages.
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You're comparing a Nexus device to a non-stock device. Everything on the Nexus 6P is Google because it's made by Google. Plus, using a custom ROM like XtreStoLite, I have about 118 apps, including the ones I've installed.
3. Huge battery drain
I don't know if you noticed or not, but in the new MM update, Doze doesn't work for many people. Try and see, it won't amaze you. And, I had to do some crazy stuff to get it to work, trust me, it's not that easy.
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My battery life lasts for 3 days without a charge with light usage, and about a day with heavy usage. I've literally had zero problems with doze.
4. Lack of features
While Samsung may put all those cool and new features in their apps, they don't put any cool system features, like double-tap to wake or sleep or anything like that and that really annoys me and that's just not cool.
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DT2W and such are really gimmicky. Coming from my HTC One M8, the majority of the time, trying to wake the device by tapping on the screen didn't work. Plus, you can always get a flip cover which turns on when flipped open and off when flipped close.
5. Incompatibility
This one is the most horrible one. I hate Exynos proccessors, they all use closed-source drivers, so no cool custom AOSP stuff is coming soon to the Exynos phones.
ROM developers that want to use the AOSP or CyanogenOS base, they have to code the drivers themselves. It's not a huge problem with Qualcomm proccessors, because they I think provide the drivers.
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Part of it has to do with Exynos, yes. A bigger part of it has to do with no developer interest. Since we don't have arter97 working on his amazing kernel anymore, we've lost an amazing developer. If The Sickness leaves, we're likely going to not have any custom kernel development anymore. Exynos devices have gotten AOSP support before, and it is being worked on for the G92x series. Also, as a note, Qualcomm and the like don't provide their driver SOURCE, they provide the binaries only, basically the same as Samsung.
I, for one, really like the S6, even coming from devices which have better AOSP support or that are even Nexus devices. Everybody who's here for the most part loves this phone. It's fast, powerful, and beautiful. But certainly, it's not the right device for everybody, especially if they expect day one CyanogenMod support.
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Why Moto? They just stated that they will not commit to monthly Android security updates and will only do major updates. That alone woukd make me avoid them nomatter how nice their devices are!
And what are the chances ot major updates now that they ate owned by Lenovo which also has many other phones. Companies with smaller amount of hardware for sale tend to be better with OS updates.
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Moto for near stock experience and YES, fast updates. I know that it's different Motorola altogether after being acquired by Lenovo, but I believe the Moto team is still there with them, which gives a little glimpse of hope. But, yes it's definitely a concern though. But for me good thing is, my S6 is doing good (touchwood) and I most probably will not need a mobile device as of now. By the time I am into market, I really hope there is a clear picture where Motorola/Lenovo is heading with the updates and support. I have experimented with chinese OEMs like Xiaomi, OnePlus for few months and I absolutely loved the value for money factor they offer. But, on the software side, they are not as stable as established OEMs, don't get me wrong, MIUI or Cyanogen were great, but a bug will pop up from nowhere, more frequently than not.
Lack of features ? Is this a joke ?
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I don't know about you guys , but i'm disappointed by the OP5 ... and regretting the fact that i waited nearly a full year for it , now i need another phone , and i think most of you do as well , it's the main reason people didn't wanna return their phones , because there are no alternatives that has :
-Stock or Stock-ish android experience ( or dev community support for custom roms and all .. )
-overall great camera ( specially dual lenses , you can do great things with a dual shooter )
-high end specs ( SD835 , at least 6GB of RAM for heavy multitasking and installing a LOT of apps , bluetooth 5 , UFS 2,1 ... it is actually faster and has a significant impact on performance etc etc ... )
-Unlocked and multiband support ( i live in algeria ... u probably never heard of it , so no verison or AT&T ... )
i don't care about a 4K display , i was very please with that FHD amoled one
i don't care about bezels ... in fact i love them , they give more grip more protection and more natural look n feel
i don't care about SD card slots , i prefer putting all my data in one partition
i don't care about iris scanners or squeeze features ... BULL**** to me
i don't care about VR ... it's useless in out era IMO
i don't care about price , as long as it is not like 1000 dollars
i don't give that much importance to water resistance ... even though it will be appreciated
i don't give that much importance to design ... i want my phone to be beautiful but i don't care that it looks like another phone
i can't live without a phone that i can't root and fully customize and flash mods on and tune my audio and everything ... i never owned a flagship , all my life been running off of chineese phones with 1GB of ram and a MTK Soc but trust me i went far with em ... now i need a good phone .
by the things i said the OP5 will be perfect , but just too much flaws man ..
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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Hmm You can take a look at Motorola or xaomi are pretty close to Google stock. May i ask what flaws you have with the op5? I owned It a week now and battery / performance is awsome.
Cheers
Lackluster cameras and a jelly screen.
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Hmm You can take a look at Motorola or xaomi are pretty close to Google stock. May i ask what flaws you have with the op5? I owned It a week now and battery / performance is awsome.
Cheers
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Since the moment i heard about it i knew it was gonna be the PERFECT phone for me ... but the jello effect and the camera are kinda putting me dowwnn , like really
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Lackluster cameras and a jelly screen.
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Yes that is exactly what's holding me back from it
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Since the moment i heard about it i knew it was gonna be the PERFECT phone for me ... but the jello effect and the camera are kinda putting me dowwnn , like really
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Hmm thats to bad. Personaly i dont see the jelly effect, could be my eyes or my phone does not have it haha. Camera is fine for my needs. But Will improve alot with software updates.
I think for the same experience with better camera and no jelly it would be the Google pixel. But Its an expensive choice
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Hola
I think that I can empathize with your sentiments on this device. I also refuse to utilise any new phone that does not provide me with an unlocked bootloader and sources for their kernel or firmware, which in turn hopefully gives way to a vibrant development community.
You can consider:
1. Devices from OPPO. They do provide some decent specs for their higher tiered devices, and I understand, like OnePlus, they have a decent active development community.
2. ZTE Axon 7. Yes, last year's specifications but man those dual firing front speakers are awesome as is the screen and phone build. Development is there though only a few active developers are around. I honestly believe it was the best phone of last year for the specs it had with ability to at least get LOS and RR official support! I was using the Axon 7 before I switched to the OnePlus 5.
3. Crazy as it sounds, but the OnePlus 3T might be a decent alternative. Getting one used might be your best bet.
4. You may have to wait for the Pixel 2 series later in November / December if you want decent specs, good camera, and an proper development support.
While indeed hardware specs are super important, I have come to realise after using a number of flagship devices from Samsung and others that if the hardware doesn't have the open community behind it, IMHO the phone is a flop! Samsung Galaxy S series does have the ability to unlock the bootloader in certain regions, the hardware specs are usually top notch, but man I hate TouchWiz and the inability to utilize LOS or RR custom ROMs. Xiaomi phones are decently priced and certain phones get good community development like the Global version of the Redmi Note 4 but the hardware specs are many time mediocre. I would get a Global Redmi Note 4 as a secondary phone just in case my main phone got damaged or lost.
I am reading each and every post here on the OnePlus 5, seeing all the known issues, and the accompanying hate, but those listed issues won't be enough for me to switch yet. I am patiently waiting on our great developers to start providing some kickass custom ROMs.
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Hmm thats to bad. Personaly i dont see the jelly effect, could be my eyes or my phone does not have it haha. Camera is fine for my needs. But Will improve alot with software updates.
I think for the same experience with better camera and no jelly it would be the Google pixel. But Its an expensive choice
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Not only it is expensive , but with an old chipset and less ram and the ugliest desing ever and back fingerprint sensor ... nah man
plus even if i wait for the pixel 2 ... that's gonna be like napalm for my wallet ! nah ...
if it was that easy i wouldn't have created this thread
thank you soo much for your help my friend
I think mine is dope
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Hola
I think that I can empathize with your sentiments on this device. I also refuse to utilise any new phone that does not provide me with an unlocked bootloader and sources for their kernel or firmware, which in turn hopefully gives way to a vibrant development community.
You can consider:
1. Devices from OPPO. They do provide some decent specs for their higher tiered devices, and I understand, like OnePlus, they have a decent active development community.
2. ZTE Axon 7. Yes, last year's specifications but man those dual firing front speakers are awesome as is the screen and phone build. Development is there though only a few active developers are around. I honestly believe it was the best phone of last year for the specs it had with ability to at least get LOS and RR official support! I was using the Axon 7 before I switched to the OnePlus 5.
3. Crazy as it sounds, but the OnePlus 3T might be a decent alternative. Getting one used might be your best bet.
4. You may have to wait for the Pixel 2 series later in November / December if you want decent specs, good camera, and an proper development support.
While indeed hardware specs are super important, I have come to realise after using a number of flagship devices from Samsung and others that if the hardware doesn't have the open community behind it, IMHO the phone is a flop! Samsung Galaxy S series does have the ability to unlock the bootloader in certain regions, the hardware specs are usually top notch, but man I hate TouchWiz and the inability to utilize LOS or RR custom ROMs. Xiaomi phones are decently priced and certain phones get good community development like the Global version of the Redmi Note 4 but the hardware specs are many time mediocre. I would get a Global Redmi Note 4 as a secondary phone just in case my main phone got damaged or lost.
I am reading each and every post here on the OnePlus 5, seeing all the known issues, and the accompanying hate, but those listed issues won't be enough for me to switch yet. I am patiently waiting on our great developers to start providing some kickass custom ROMs.
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First off , in 6 months of browsing in XDA , this is the best reply i have ever recieved :victory:
i am exactly like you , i could never agree more ... but i really don't like the other choices ... hear me out
1-the latest device of oppo is the OPPO R11 plus ... which is like the ****ing deformated twin brother of the OP5 : same design look but the OP5 looks better and feels more premium ...and lower specs ( snapdragon 660 ? srsly ? )
and i've never been a fan of oppo phones and their UI that craves to be IOS like ... so i can't really go with that .
2-ZTE axon 7 is a really great phone , but last year's great phone , i wanna buy a phone that i won't swap for like 2 years , and this one is already pretty old , and i honestly can't let go of the SD835 andreno 540 , 8gigs of ram , DUAL cam , bluetooth 5 , gorilla glass 5 , front mounted fingerprint scanner etc ... i don't give much importance to the front firing speaker because i don't use it that much ... but the audio quality over the jack is verryyyyy important to me , as i said i never go with a phone without a sound mod applied , but the ZTE axon 7 just seems lacking a lot of the features here so it ain't attrackting me
3-will never consider the 3T because the 5 has everything the 3T has in a better way ... straight up
4-pixel 2 is actually my only choice except the OP5 ... but the price is gonna be radioactive , and the wait till nov/dec is really not pleasing , as i said i am running over multiple chineese phones that are loow ****ing end ... can't take it anymore i need something good
now honestly i haate the Samsung eco system ... and i hate the bother of looking for universal versions just for convinience , plus i don't trust the exynos ones i'd rather take a Snapdragon , but those are the ones that u can't do anything to ... what a shame
i am also reading all the threads about the OP5 ... and the only thing that really gets to me is the camera , i have a dslr ... but i really wanna experience one of the best phone cameras , because u can pretty much guess based on the phones i use that their camera is more than trash ... i never actually use them ... so if they fix the camera next month i will probably pick one ... if not , maybe i'll wait for the pixel 2 ...
thank you very much for your help ! :highfive:
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I think mine is dope
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how is your experience with the camera ?
ReyTheBoss said:
if it was that easy i wouldn't have created this thread
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Newsflash! No matter what phone you choose (or wait for) there's likely going to be some aspect(s) that you don't like. There's also going to be some aspect(s) that delight you.
The design of every phone is a set of compromises. That reality also means that some people will be disappointed with some of those compromise decisions.
The only advice I can offer is to find something whose compromises you can live with. For me that happens to be the OP5--despite some of the compromises they made.
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how is your experience with the camera ?
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I like flashing roms and dash, I'm not into taking pics, so I don't care about the camera. I do like the camera though it's pretty good, I'm sure a dev will hook the camera up & improve it
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Newsflash! No matter what phone you choose (or wait for) there's likely going to be some aspect(s) that you don't like. There's also going to be some aspect(s) that delight you.
The design of every phone is a set of compromises. That reality also means that some people will be disappointed with some of those compromise decisions.
The only advice I can offer is to find something whose compromises you can live with. For me that happens to be the OP5--despite some of the compromises they made.
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a bit agressive here but you are right ... it is just that the camera of the OP5 was supposed to be THE "feauture" , the whole marketing point , not the biggest flaw of the device ... and it's almost a deal breaker ...
plus this thread is for all people not just for me , i am positive that a lot of people are in the same spot as me
and i know how it'll go , either i accept the OP5 or patience and time will show :good:
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I like flashing roms and dash, I'm not into taking pics, so I don't care about the camera. I do like the camera though it's pretty good, I'm sure a dev will hook the camera & improve it
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cool my friend thank you for the reply ... i can't wait to please my flash addiction one i get my hand on it then
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a bit agressive here...
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It wasn't my intention to be aggressive or put anyone down. Rather it was to set expectations. You've asked a very good question. It's just that I doubt there's a good answer.
I've been looking for a replacement for my Nexus 5 for many months now. I finally decided to go with the OP5. Despite some minor quibbles, I'm keeping mine.
Yes, many people are in the same or similar situation as you. But if there was some other phone that had all of the positive features of the OP5, also addressed the negative ones, and cost no more than the OP5, I'm sure it would have been mentioned here. That it hasn't suggests either that (1) such a phone doesn't exist or that (2) everyone has their own individual set of criteria so no consensus can be reached.
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by the things i said the OP5 will be perfect , but just too much flaws man ..
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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I feel your point, 95% I agree with your analisys.
Moreover I need a dual SIM phone, and unlocked: my job obligates me to travel around the world, and I need to put a "local SIM" in order to get everywhere an internet connection, with acceptable costs.
If not OP5................. I could get:
Xiaomi, Galaxy S8 duos , Lenovo(Motorola), some Honor/Huawei.
I am based in Europe, Italy, that means:
not all Xiaomi support Italian 4G-LTE band, it sucks
Galaxy S8 duos in Italy is an import product... with delay in delivery and possible problem with warranty
Lenovo Honor and Huawei could be OK, but personally I feel not at the same level of OP5, in specs-performance.
At the end... when I will have the OP5 in my hand (in 2 weeks) I hope it totally satisfy myself, because ATM I have NO other options.
Crossed fingers
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I feel your point, 95% I agree with your analisys.
Moreover I need a dual SIM phone, and unlocked: my job obligates me to travel around the world, and I need to put a "local SIM" in order to get everywhere an internet connection, with acceptable costs.
If not OP5................. I could get:
Xiaomi, Galaxy S8 duos , Lenovo(Motorola), some Honor/Huawei.
I am based in Europe, Italy, that means:
not all Xiaomi support Italian 4G-LTE band, it sucks
Galaxy S8 duos in Italy is an import product... with delay in delivery and possible problem with warranty
Lenovo Honor and Huawei could be OK, but personally I feel not at the same level of OP5, in specs-performance.
At the end... when I will have the OP5 in my hand (in 2 weeks) I hope it totally satisfy myself, because ATM I have NO other options.
Crossed fingers
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so again it goes back to the OnePlus 5 ... and all the criticism aside , it's a ****ing great phone , i might just stop *****ing about it and start seeing the good side of it XD that implies for everybody else :highfive:
Even though you don't care about any of the features that are distinguishing many of 2017's flagships, there are some that have those features and can still fit your criteria:
1. HTC U11. It is bootloader unlockable from the factory, so you can play with it to your hearts content.
2. Sony Xperia XZ Premium. Recently was added to their developer program, which will allow you to mod it, as well.
3. LG G6 US997. If in the US, this specific model has been added to the unlockable models list and LG tends to have a healthy following (even with the dreaded bootloop issue).
4. OnePlus 3T. As good as the OnePlus 5 in many ways and better in many others (no jelly like scrolling, massive custom development scene).
5. Google Pixel. No explanations necessary.
ReyTheBoss said:
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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www.kimovil.com is a pretty good page to compare and or find a phone that match your demands.
im more concerned about custom rom and developer community.
Sighh.. so guys, i had my mi mix for about 6 months and i loveD this phone. but i feel like its come to the end of the line already.
MIUI is basically unusable for me, missed notifications, calls missed by delay of ring & late notifications, group texting is horrible, camera image processing sucks, OS crashes etc. (all this before rooting mind you)
But after rooting all of those issues went away....for a bit.
so since day 2 i had it rooted running lineageOS and switched to RR, but 3 months later and up til today i started experiencing:
Slight screen burn
Constant OS Crashes/Random Reboots
Cell Signal dropping in areas that it didnt while running MIUI
Still bad camera image processing
Call Audio dropping extremely low when volume is Maxed
Bluetooth disconnects while my phone is in my pocket (didnt happen on MIUI)
and several other things.
I work in I.T. and cant have some of these things happening while at work.
I started looking at alternative devices and since the Pixel 2 is too dang much for my pockets I'm considering the Pixel XL.
I hate that the screen is 5.5 inches over my 6.4 but I need something nice that works. I'm wondering if i left if I'd be happy or nah?
Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped
manupa14 said:
Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped
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what are ur thoughts on the G6 or Huawei Mate 9?
The way you are talking you seem to have made up your mind already.
I find it odd though that I'm not experiencing any of the symptoms you mentioned.
My guy u do realize your 1 in the possible thousands of people that own this phone correct? Nobody's device is perfect. This is what I'm experiencing personally not the whole mi mix end user list. The only thing I have made up in my mind is that my phone isn't gonna last forever as my daily driver because of these issues so I'm seeking suitable alternatives before I make the jump.
Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.
I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02
gtshiftin6 said:
I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02
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Appreciate the reply! I'll give this a shot, although I dont see why stock android wouldnt give me a better experience than MIUI. I used to love miui back in versions 6 & 7, and im not saying its bad now but i just had a bad experience with it on this device. but ill definitely give it another go!
rappa619 said:
Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.
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Thanks ! im in the USA, but i was trying to stay around that 500-600 price point, the S8+ is kinda pushing it being as though its $724.99 over here. the one plus is definitely a contender for the future though
I would try a few other ROMs before getting a different phone. AICP has been rock solid for me now for months.
One issue your having is the custom roms - I tried them all and more or less they all get buggy over time [some more than others]. I run stock global and its has next to never crashed [fc'ed], call quality is fine and carrier permitting the notifications [network related ones] show up fast / local ones never get missed.
Two the pixle only has a camera that's better, screen is worse more or less - storage is A LOT worse and you don't even really get a more durable device.
Been using mine as my daily driver since I picked it up in late Jan 2017 - its really never failed me as long as I didn't go rooting / fiddling with things. That brings me back to something I mentioned awhile back in another post. Miui doesn't like to be tampered with - roms based on this tend to become unstable [been using miui roms since 2008 or so and the behavior has never really changed]. The non miui roms are stable enough until you go messing with them too [especially visually]. In addition to that many of the custom roms seem to leave things out, often little things but they add up to annoyances.
Its your money - but the Pixel isn't the one I would go for if your looking to replace this thing. Its not that good a phone. Look at the Mate 9 / 10 series or some other designs.
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Mi mix 3 looking good.
james1089 said:
Mi mix 3 looking good.
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LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .
Konstantine34 said:
LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html
Konstantine34 said:
LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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omerbagi10 said:
Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .
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Yeah more or less in the same spot. Still waiting and hoping for the guys behind AOSiP, AICP and Viper to bring Oreo to the Mix And maybe some new developer to get the phone and play around with it a bit.
The OP5T does look cool, probably the best value right now in the market. Maybe similar to Mix 2 although dev support is probably better for OP devices in general.
One thing about new notification shade: it is supposed to be there in the 7.12.8 beta (only china beta) , but it is not there in the same release of xiaomi.eu... Haven't tried official MIUI but I find it strange that it is not in the xiaomi.eu mod. Know something about it?
Searched miui forum and read changelogs and stuff and didn't actually find anything clear on the matter. And no official global beta since 7.5.25 I believe...
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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html
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Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
jr313 said:
Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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Konstantine34 said:
Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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https://youtu.be/uuYcR7daXRs you can check it out here, it almost looks identical to what is seen in the mi mix video excluding the three cameras on back
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