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[Updated with Impressions] Is it worth buying the Redmi 2 Prime now?

Hello folks,
Quick and simple question- is it worth buying the Redmi 2 Prime now? Is the hardware too outdated for Marshmallow?
I know the Snapdragon 410 isn't the best out there, but is it capable of handling a custom Marshmallow ROM, be fluid and stable? I'm enquiring about the custom ROM since I'm aware that this phone is still officially stuck in KitKat.
I'm a relatively light user. I don't play any games on my current phone (the old Xperia Mini). I mostly just use Telegram, Whatsapp, Sync for Reddit, PocketCasts and Blackplayer Ex. I won't be even browsing all that much.
My current concerns are -
1) Being outdated the moment I buy it- it was released in the middle of last year.
2) The call quality is rather bad, supposedly
3) Heating Issue
Should I be buying something that officially supports a recent OS? (Lollipop or Marshmallow) How important is that I be using a new one?
Cheers everyone!
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UPDATE : My opinions about Redmi 2 Prime after owning it for 10 days.
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I know that 10 days ain't a large enough time frame to provide a detailed analysis, but this wasn't meant to be a review per se anyway. There are tonnes of those online- This is more my personal impressions against my expectations.
+ The phone heated up extremely quickly in idle state on the first powerup- less than 5 minutes infact. This raised a red flag in my mind and my immediate thought was to return the device. However, installing the OTA update and suffice to say, that particular heating issue was gone in an instant. Weird, actually.
+ The back cover is quite slippery. Using an additional case fixed it, but added up to the bulk.
+ I like the thickness a lot- felt just right. This is from a person coming from 5 years with an Xperia Mini ST15i.
+ MIUI is really quite the pleasant UI. I spent a few hours going through all that it had to offer, and boy there is a lot. I expected the general UI performance to be much worse, and excluding the few lags and hitches, it was overall a smoothly running system.
- Out of the box, the available RAM was idling around 800-900mb. Launching Chrome made it take a huge hit and fell as much as to 400mb, which made me concerned about the performance again.. However, I quickly replaced Chrome with my go-to Habit browser, and everyone lived happily ever after.
+ However nice MIUI is and can be, my heart was already set for Nova Launcher anyway. Installing Nova Launcher freed up about 200-300mb of RAM. Just goes to show that MIUI really does eat your RAM and doesn't have much to show for it, in terms of performance. This isn't to say that MIUI is bad, its just that its not well optimized, atleast on KK.
+ My next step was to root the phone- an extremely easy process with this handset.
+ Removing all bloatware and a bunch of core processes freed upto 1.3gb of RAM. That was a massive jump, and significantly improved multitasking.
+ Over the course of the next few days, I installed my usual apps and imported data from my previous Android phones. This is about 30 apps, about 8 of which accesses the internet on a timely basis. RAM still hovered around 1.2-1.3gb mark.
+ I have Whatsapp, Gmail, Wallet from Budgetbakers and MLO2 open all the time. Generally RAM is around 900mb-1gb at idle. This is very, very good for my usage, and also good stuff in general.
General Impressions
+ Extremely impressed with the battery life on this thing! In one instance I had about 6.30 hours of screen time with said apps open, occasional youtubing and background syncing- had 39% remaining. Nuts, considering how super low my expectations were.
+ The display is so darn good, AFTER I removed the pre-installed matter screen protector.
+ I don't care about the camera, but I can say its decently better compared to my old phone. I don't use it much.
+ I haven't used the front camera, don't care. Not one to take selfies.
- One aspect of the phone that really shows how many corners were cut to dip down the price, is the micro-usb charging slot. It is simply a rectangular cut out, and not shaped to the contour of the USB slot- meaning, you can damage your phone in no time if you use it carelessly.
I decided to stick with stock MIUI for now, since none of the custom ROMS are 100% stable. I can attribute to this due to Redmi not releasing kernel sources, so any kind of reverse-engineered ROM / Kernel won't be completely reliable for use as a daily driver. Was really disappointed in finding this out, since I was really looking forward to using Marshmallow. Despite that, I got used to being at KK, and truth be told it doesn't really matter all that much as long as you can use you phone and get work done with it.
If you can live with Kitkat and are willing to take the time to tweak the phone, this is a really good buy. I'm seriously impressed by what Xiaomi has brought out to the general public. SO FAR, that is. Lets see if my opinion changes for the worse in the coming months! But by then, this phone might get completely replaced with its newer brother, the Redmi 3.

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Anyone?

I've recently replaced my Zenfone 5 with a Redmi 2 and I am quite pleased. Snapdragon 410 is not the newest SoC around but paired with 2GB of RAM performs just fine with my usage (no games, mostly web browsing, some rather lightweight apps and YT)., has decent support when it comes to alternaltive firmware (I'm running official CM13.1), it's scheduled for MIUI 8 upgrade and will quite possibly receive an unofficial Android N port of some sort as well.
I have experienced no heating or call quality issues, my average screen on time is around 6 hours. Overall the phone provides really good performance and is well made, especially considering the price.

its up to you....if you know about custom roms (we have official cm) ,and more into flashing different roms,experimenting with the phone then this is the best device at present in 7000 range but if you want to keep the experience as it is i.e stock (miui)....then go for some other device., leave it

sandeep_7 said:
its up to you....if you know about custom roms (we have official cm) ,and more into flashing different roms,experimenting with the phone then this is the best device at present in 7000 range but if you want to keep the experience as it is i.e stock (miui)....then go for some other device., leave it
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Hello I'm very keen on buying this phone,redmi 2 prime and I wanted to know if redmi 2 ROMs can be flashed on it anybody pls answer

Chris s5830i said:
Hello I'm very keen on buying this phone,redmi 2 prime and I wanted to know if redmi 2 ROMs can be flashed on it anybody pls answer
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yes, redmi 2 roms can be flashed on redmi 2 prime. Basically both phones are same the only difference is ram, redmi 2 has 1 gb whereas 2 prime has 2 gb.

Oh thanks guys- I didn't see your replies till now. Ended up ordering the Redmi 2P anyway; couldn't find anything else that matched it at that price point.
Originally Posted by sandeep_7
its up to you....if you know about custom roms (we have official cm) ,and more into flashing different roms,experimenting with the phone then this is the best device at present in 7000 range but if you want to keep the experience as it is i.e stock (miui)....then go for some other device., leave it
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I've done my fair share of experimentation with Android devices, especially during the GB-KK era; ROMS, Kernels, Overclocking and what have you. I'm no longer interested in those kinds of things (nor do I have the time) but having said that, I will definitely root and install an AOSP ROM. I don't care about MIUI one bit!
I just need a stable daily driver. Not worried about any sort of wow factor, so I don't mind spending this less as well.

Just wanted to say: If you don't use MIUI you won't have any heating issue at all.
It IS quite outdated. I'd say that buying a Redmi 3S or 3 Pro would be a better idea. Even a Redmi 3. For the apps you said you use, there won't be any problem at all if you use a custom CM13 / 12.1 / XOSP / AOSP
Since i don't know from where you are i can't tell you what good phones you have on your country.

hardsonic said:
Just wanted to say: If you don't use MIUI you won't have any heating issue at all.
It IS quite outdated. I'd say that buying a Redmi 3S or 3 Pro would be a better idea. Even a Redmi 3. For the apps you said you use, there won't be any problem at all if you use a custom CM13 / 12.1 / XOSP / AOSP
Since i don't know from where you are i can't tell you what good phones you have on your country.
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The Redmi 3S / Pro hasn't been released here in India, nor have there been any release dates since a long while. Plus I needed a phone right away.
Nevertheless, its good to know that heating will be reduced with AOSP. Do you know if the phone supports the official stock ROM- the plain unmodified AOSPs? Like the ones found on Moto Gs / Nexus devices. If it does, and does it well, I'm a happy man.

sandeep_7 said:
yes, redmi 2 roms can be flashed on redmi 2 prime. Basically both phones are same the only difference is ram, redmi 2 has 1 gb whereas 2 prime has 2 gb.
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Thanks bro

looking out for phone with future proof android experiences via custom roms or asop..
guys is it worth buying redmi prime 2 ? As i have seen that this phone has variety of custom roms and support marshmallow too.
Will this phone has future proof android experiences like android N,O etc via custom rom and asop?
Or should I wait for redmi 3s to be launched?
currently I am using xperia e3 d2212 and I wanna change my phone due to lack of android updates and custom roms.
please suggest me guys....
thanks in advance and sorry for my english.......

prakharayush31 said:
guys is it worth buying redmi prime 2 ? As i have seen that this phone has variety of custom roms and support marshmallow too.
Will this phone has future proof android experiences like android N,O etc via custom rom and asop?
Or should I wait for redmi 3s to be launched?
currently I am using xperia e3 d2212 and I wanna change my phone due to lack of android updates and custom roms.
please suggest me guys....
thanks in advance and sorry for my english.......
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If you have the option to wait, wait for the 3S, it will be a much better experience.
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agentmilo said:
The Redmi 3S / Pro hasn't been released here in India, nor have there been any release dates since a long while. Plus I needed a phone right away.
Nevertheless, its good to know that heating will be reduced with AOSP. Do you know if the phone supports the official stock ROM- the plain unmodified AOSPs? Like the ones found on Moto Gs / Nexus devices. If it does, and does it well, I'm a happy man.
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It doesn't have official support for any 100% pure AOSP, only unnoficial. There are plenty of AOSP roms official though, all Ground Zero for example (TipsyOS, TeslaOS and Validus ROM). Also, CM13 is 100% official.
On the unnoficial side of things, there are lots of ROMs to play with, and we have a CAF AOSP which is 100% pure, even if Unnoficial.

Does XIaomi still lock bootloaders after updating official MIUI?

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Does XIaomi still lock bootloaders after updating official MIUI?
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may be as i have seen on miui forums that they locked the bootloader on their redmi note 3

Hi guys, I updated my first post to view my impressions after having owned the device for 10 days.

Redmi 2/Prime is Still one of the best Out there , taking into concern the Budget of 7k , and to top it off , Regular Updates of MIUI and Also Redmi 2/Prime is one of the Devices having Much much development in fields of Custom Roms to Kernels to Mods .. surely it may be old now , but Taking into my own words seriously, old is gold ..
There are other devices that are better in specs at the same prize range , (Vibe K5 , Coolpad note 3 lite) , but Quality Matters too , and Our Redmi Defeats both of them , in that + it feels Premium than the other two that I mentioned (I have used all 3) ....
So , should you buy it ? Hell yeah , unless You can increase your Budget and Go for Higher Devices

rootmaster007 said:
Redmi 2/Prime is Still one of the best Out there , taking into concern the Budget of 7k , and to top it off , Regular Updates of MIUI and Also Redmi 2/Prime is one of the Devices having Much much development in fields of Custom Roms to Kernels to Mods .. surely it may be old now , but Taking into my own words seriously, old is gold ..
There are other devices that are better in specs at the same prize range , (Vibe K5 , Coolpad note 3 lite) , but Quality Matters too , and Our Redmi Defeats both of them , in that + it feels Premium than the other two that I mentioned (I have used all 3) ....
So , should you buy it ? Hell yeah , unless You can increase your Budget and Go for Higher Devices
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I would definitely same the for the latter part of your post- it is great up until 7k. If you have the capability to increase your budget by even 1k, definitely look elsewhere. Once the novelty wears off, one can really regret buying this device AT THIS POINT IN TIME. It definitely IS outdated in terms of stable software. That's the important part.
Ofcourse, all this changes if we see a Marshmallow upgrade from Xiaomi. Then this device will be worth recommending again.
I would NOT suggest this device if your plan is to toy with it and experiment with custom ROMS, kernels AND at the same time, use it as your daily driver.
I would only suggest it if you are completely alright with being stuck with KK.

rootmaster007 said:
Redmi 2/Prime is Still one of the best Out there , taking into concern the Budget of 7k , and to top it off , Regular Updates of MIUI and Also Redmi 2/Prime is one of the Devices having Much much development in fields of Custom Roms to Kernels to Mods .. surely it may be old now , but Taking into my own words seriously, old is gold ..
There are other devices that are better in specs at the same prize range , (Vibe K5 , Coolpad note 3 lite) , but Quality Matters too , and Our Redmi Defeats both of them , in that + it feels Premium than the other two that I mentioned (I have used all 3) ....
So , should you buy it ? Hell yeah , unless You can increase your Budget and Go for Higher Devices
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I would definitely same the for the latter part of your post- it is great up until 7k. If you have the capability to increase your budget by even 1k, definitely look elsewhere. Once the novelty wears off, one can really regret buying this device AT THIS POINT IN TIME. It definitely IS outdated in terms of stable software. That's the important part.
Ofcourse, all this changes if we see a Marshmallow upgrade from Xiaomi. Then this device will be worth recommending again.
I would NOT suggest this device if your plan is to toy with it and experiment with custom ROMS, kernels AND at the same time, use it as your daily driver.
I would only suggest it if you are completely alright with being stuck with KK.

I'm using it with mokee rom. No problem at all. Anything is great.

Whoa whoa whoa @agentmilo, get first things straight at first. The device isn't at all outdated. Because all the processing power that SD410 has, is quite extravagant for our working standard. RAM is not your issue of concern at all. Let all the game played by the player who knows the best of it, the Android itself. Android doesn't slow down for lack of RAM, I mean we are not in the 512MB age. Every other software available for our device is 90% stable. And the one's like RR is 100%. The device heats up based on whay and how are you dealing with it, and every other device heats up naturally, because that's the basic physics between semiconductors bro. Performance will vary on the kernel you're using, and try it with latest ultimate BK, it's everything it could be. The beast is still good enough for our everyday tasks to medium high gaming. And for you, it's overkill.

Could have had Galaxy S8+, dared to be different and got a Mi MiX - early impressions

Hi Guys,
Greetings from Japan.
Change my smartphone regularly as I love gadgets and technology.
Daily drivers have included Galaxy Note 3, 5, A9 Pro, and most recently S7 Edge.
Have also owned, Xperia Z3, Z5 Premium, LG G3, G4, V10, V20, Blackberry Passport, Priv, Nexus 6P, Huawei Mate 7, P9, iPhone 6S Plus
Lots of people picking up the new Galaxy S8+ now which I considered along with the LG G6.
Been enamored with the MIX since I first saw it last year.
Price of the 6gb 256gb model came all the way down under 70,000 yen which is cheaper than both the the LG and S8+ (by a lot vs the Galaxy) so I jumped on it.
Few first impressions after a few days of it replacing my S7 Edge.
- Beautiful phone. Please note I love big phones. The finish and style is superb. As many have noted though, slipperiest phone I have ever used.
- Screen size is immersive and the screen to body ratio just awesome. I actually feel the S8+ screen is a bit to narrow and I like the resolution of the MIX. However, one negative is (and this is my personal taste), I find the colors not as punchy as I'm used to with the Amoled screens. I don't find the color accuracy as good as other high end phones. (no official testing, just by eye).
- Games and multimedia on this phone are amazing.
- Very surprised at the plug in sound quality. Currently use a Onkyo DP-X1 digital audio player which is in my opinion one of the best DAP's out there. To compare, the MIX is as powerful and the quality is much better than any Samsung phone. I don't have my LG phones on hand to compare directly anymore but I'd say its maybe a step below the DAC's on the V10 and V20. Compared to the DP-X1, slightly less clean, less punch on the low end, and a narrower sound stage but the DP-X1 will blow away any phone. Phone wise, I would not hesitate to plug in my Sony MDR-1A or Audio Technica MSR7.
- Sorry, I'll say it, camera is terrible. Many of the phones I owned in the past had amazing cameras. This does not. I think enough has been discussed on this so I'll leave it at that.
- I can't comment much on the MIUI skin/system launcher. After a few hours I threw on Nova Launcher. There are bugs with MIUI that I experienced as follows:
- Double knock to wake does not work after the phone has been sleeping for longer periods of time. If I shut the screen off and double tap within a few minutes it wakes the phone
but if I do it after say 20 minutes, it will not and I need to press the power button to wake.
- Notifications were hit and miss at the beginning. Was strangely unreliable as there were times the phone was locked and no notifications came through. I turned off a bunch of
MIUI optimizations and now they "seem" to work but will monitor.
- Speaking of notifications, when do not disturb is turned on, messages like LINE Messenger are not silenced, even I have I set to silence all with NO exceptions.
- The auto brightness performance is slow/poor. Turned it off and manually adjust brightness for now.
- I've allowed the dock to be hidden but sometimes really hard to swipe away in certain apps.
- Had to redo default apps several times as they kept getting reset.
- Setting wallpapers seems more difficult than it has to be whether it be in MIUI or Nova (which is even more buggy in this setup for wallpapers).
- Clock widgets don't work. Time does not reflect phone time (stands still) - this could be a Nova thing with MIUI.
- I've played around with the memory management and it seems MIUI does a poor job at it. When I have no apps running/open there are times the system memory and apps running
in background use up over 2gb - luckily this phone has 6gb. This worsens over time and is cleared with a restart.
- Seems like when phone goes to sleep it was no longer connected to wifi. I had to turn on the option to leave wifi and data on (Switch between Data and Wifi option) which
appears to fix this.
- and other things that are probably minor that I don't remember.
In general I love the phone for its design and hardware (except for the camera). In my opinion if it had an Amoled screen, a better, at least decent camera, and at least addressed some of the basic bugs (no matter how beautiful a phone is if notifications don't work out of the box... its unacceptable), this phone would be untouchable.
Of course some of the bugs could be just user error so feel free to point me in the right direction if this is the case.
Also I have rooted and flashed some of my devices in the past with custom roms. Let me know if you think flashing to another rom would solve some issues.
Should note the Rom it came with is MIUI Global 8.2 | Stable 8.2.1.0 (MAHMIDL).
Thanks for reading.

I share a lot of your frustrations, then I installed Epic rom. It's a totally different beast. I highly recommend it.
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gocchin said:
- I've played around with the memory management and it seems MIUI does a poor job at it. When I have no apps running/open there are times the system memory and apps running
in background use up over 2gb - luckily this phone has 6gb. This worsens over time and is cleared with a restart.
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Greetings from Bangkok
Are you aware, that an operating system using more RAM doesn't mean bad RAM management at all?
Here's a very good ELI5 (Explain like I'm 5) explanation of the misunderstanding:
"So, imagine you have a store full of books. Most of the books are in storage. So when someone walks in and says "I want Book Y" you walk to the storage, get up on a ladder, grab Book Y and go back and give it to them.
Then the next 10 customers walk in and ask for Book Y, and one customer asks for Book L. So you're smart and instead of continuing to go back to storage and grabbing Book Y 10 times you just grab a bunch of Book Y once and keep a bunch on a small shelf nearby. You still get stuck grabbing Book L from storage because it's less common so you weren't ready. But at least when people ask for Book Y you don't have to go to storage.
This is obviously a better system. You can be faster at selling because a bunch of Book Y is on a nearby shelf and people keep asking for Book Y. No need to go to storage except for sometimes.
Now imagine some asshole comes in and takes all of the books off that nearby shelf every single ****ing time you stock it up. Literally you HAVE to walk all the way to storage every time because of this idiot. This guy claims he's helping to "keep your shelf clean". Meanwhile you're TRYING to use that shelf to store best-seller books.
That idiot is a RAM cleaner. Don't hire that idiot."
- https://np.reddit.com/r/Android/com...ns_antivirus_and_apps_that/d1qstqt/?context=3
And here the real, fairly more technical explanation:
"On Windows, you want to keep as much RAM available as you can so that programs have enough room to operate. When RAM fills up, Windows is forced to start using hard drive space as virtual RAM and hard drives are much slower than physical RAM.
This is not true for Android.
Android’s operating system has its own native handler for assigning RAM to apps and making sure that all of it is being used in the most optimal way. In fact, Android purposely tries to keep apps loaded into RAM for better performance. RAM is fast, remember? On mobile devices, every bit of speed is critical for a good user experience, so keeping apps in RAM is actually a good thing.
Not only does Android handle RAM assignment, but it also keeps track of background apps so they don’t use up unnecessary processor resources. There’s no noticeable performance hit for leaving apps loaded in RAM."
- http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/

underlines said:
Greetings from Bangkok
Are you aware, that an operating system using more RAM doesn't mean bad RAM management at all?
Here's a very good ELI5 (Explain like I'm 5) explanation of the misunderstanding:
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Thanks a lot for the analogy which certainly does make sense.
Perhaps I should not have used the words "poor job".
I certainly do understand the benefits of keeping apps loaded in ram for speed. I just found it odd that even before I turned off the MIUI optimizations which were supposed to be killing off apps, I would watch ram in use creep from 1gb to 2gb even after launching no apps.
I am still in the learning phase for this phone so will surely pick up its tendencies and quirks more as I go along.
Thanks for the input.

thklinge said:
I share a lot of your frustrations, then I installed Epic rom. It's a totally different beast. I highly recommend it.
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Care to elaborate?
I am also using the stock global 8.2.1 and I am really curious as to what you mean with totally different beast..
I already unlock bootloader so I can flash custom ROM, but I was actually living with stock global until ResurrectionRemix or LineageOS would be more bug free and go with them ad I love the "stock Google - Pixel esperienze" (running Pixel Launcher atm)..but I could surely benefit of a better ROM meanwhile.
Thanks in advance!

No more weird Chinese letters in some apps, no Chinese apps running in the background, no more lost notifications, better battery life, snappier response, and so on. I use nova launcher anyways so not sure about the launcher. But it's a real waste of space to have so few icons on such a large screen. I use a 8x5 grid.
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Also I have rooted and flashed some of my devices in the past with custom roms. Let me know if you think flashing to another rom would solve some issues.
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Ressurection Remix rom will solve all your software issues.
I too hope MIX 2 will have a good dual camera setup, and an amoled qhd screen
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OTA for 8.2.4 Global Stable came yesterday. Seems to have fixed my do not disturb issues.
Double tap to wake still inconsistent.
Will try for a few days before considering flashing to a custom ROM.

I have been using my MIX for three days now and I am very impressed with it. Along with mix in our circle of friends there is an iPhone 7 plus and Galaxy S8 Plus.
Experiencing with all 3, I love my MIX, its speed looks, and features. I am happy that I got it.
Before this I had Mi5, I still miss my mi5 size and beauty but I don't regret getting the MIX.
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I got my MIX from Dubai, I live in the UK, my phone was sealed and came with 8,2 stable global. I am just curious that it came bootloader unlocked. As soon as I turned on the phone, set it up I got the update for 8.2.40 which mean genuine Xiaomi Rom. did anyone else get their phone bootloader unlocked. due to this my phone shows device not certified on google play, due to this I cant download Netflix and I don't know which app will stop working next

zabihjan said:
...I got my MIX from Dubai, I live in the UK, my phone was sealed and came with 8,2 stable global. I am just curious that it came bootloader unlocked. As soon as I turned on the phone, set it up I got the update for 8.2.40 which mean genuine Xiaomi Rom.
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Let's assume that Xiaomi ships the devices from the factory with bootloader locked.
Even if the reseller has a way to unlock the bootloader without the usual method with a MI account, it is certain that they cannot do it wirelessly with the device powered down and inside the box.
So it is either that Xiaomi ships it unlocked, or the box has been opened, the device unlocked, and the box resealed again.
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....due to this my phone shows device not certified on google play, due to this I cant download Netflix and I don't know which app will stop working next
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Try the Magisk module which is for passing the safetynet check

Nikos2k said:
Let's assume that Xiaomi ships the devices from the factory with bootloader locked.
Even if the reseller has a way to unlock the bootloader without the usual method with a MI account, it is certain that they cannot do it wirelessly with the device powered down and inside the box.
So it is either that Xiaomi ships it unlocked, or the box has been opened, the device unlocked, and the box resealed again.
Try the Magisk module which is for passing the safetynet check
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I get cts profile mismatch
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I get cts profile mismatch
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Here's the thread for this module:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/xiaomi-safetynet-fix-t3600431
Send him your magisk log and your xiaomi-safetynet-fix.log
(/magisk/xiaomi-safetynet-fix/xiaomi-safetynet-fix.log)

Nikos2k said:
Here's the thread for this module:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/xiaomi-safetynet-fix-t3600431
Send him your magisk log and your xiaomi-safetynet-fix.log
(/magisk/xiaomi-safetynet-fix/xiaomi-safetynet-fix.log)
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Thank you for reminding me of this. I will get on with it asap
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i did a full wipe and flashed using miflash latest global and locked the bootloader. after one day of use when I heard the global dev is coming out I unlocked bootloader again and guess what Netflix is working, cts mismatch is gone and device is certified on google play. now waiting global dev and official lineage

Bought Mi Mix 6gb yesterday (Sold my Galaxy Tab S2 T710 as the promised upgrade seems never happen, and my LG V10 due to heat issue) using global ROM and updated it to 8.2.5.0. Everything seems alright so far except it doesn't have Japanese locale. The translation project says it is 94% complete.
Audio quality is as great as LG G6, with my RHA T10 in ear headphone.
I prefer Mi Mix (or LG G6) to GS8+.
Now have to wait for the delivery of transparent cases...

Hi,
I hope you don't mind where you bought your Mix in Dubai? As I am interested in buying one and not sure where to get it as I am in DUbai also.
zabihjan said:
I have been using my MIX for three days now and I am very impressed with it. Along with mix in our circle of friends there is an iPhone 7 plus and Galaxy S8 Plus.
Experiencing with all 3, I love my MIX, its speed looks, and features. I am happy that I got it.
Before this I had Mi5, I still miss my mi5 size and beauty but I don't regret getting the MIX.
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I got my MIX from Dubai, I live in the UK, my phone was sealed and came with 8,2 stable global. I am just curious that it came bootloader unlocked. As soon as I turned on the phone, set it up I got the update for 8.2.40 which mean genuine Xiaomi Rom. did anyone else get their phone bootloader unlocked. due to this my phone shows device not certified on google play, due to this I cant download Netflix and I don't know which app will stop working next
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macmel said:
Hi,
I hope you don't mind where you bought your Mix in Dubai? As I am interested in buying one and not sure where to get it as I am in DUbai also.
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https://uae.souq.com/ae-en/xiaomi-m...PJ3Q.0&utm_referrer=https://www.google.co.uk/
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zabihjan said:
https://uae.souq.com/ae-en/xiaomi-m...PJ3Q.0&utm_referrer=https://www.google.co.uk/
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Thank you very much , appreciate it.

-Discussion- Mi Mix 1 Vs Pixel XL (thinking about leaving :'( )

Sighh.. so guys, i had my mi mix for about 6 months and i loveD this phone. but i feel like its come to the end of the line already.
MIUI is basically unusable for me, missed notifications, calls missed by delay of ring & late notifications, group texting is horrible, camera image processing sucks, OS crashes etc. (all this before rooting mind you)
But after rooting all of those issues went away....for a bit.
so since day 2 i had it rooted running lineageOS and switched to RR, but 3 months later and up til today i started experiencing:
Slight screen burn
Constant OS Crashes/Random Reboots
Cell Signal dropping in areas that it didnt while running MIUI
Still bad camera image processing
Call Audio dropping extremely low when volume is Maxed
Bluetooth disconnects while my phone is in my pocket (didnt happen on MIUI)
and several other things.
I work in I.T. and cant have some of these things happening while at work.
I started looking at alternative devices and since the Pixel 2 is too dang much for my pockets I'm considering the Pixel XL.
I hate that the screen is 5.5 inches over my 6.4 but I need something nice that works. I'm wondering if i left if I'd be happy or nah?

Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped

manupa14 said:
Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped
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what are ur thoughts on the G6 or Huawei Mate 9?

The way you are talking you seem to have made up your mind already.
I find it odd though that I'm not experiencing any of the symptoms you mentioned.

My guy u do realize your 1 in the possible thousands of people that own this phone correct? Nobody's device is perfect. This is what I'm experiencing personally not the whole mi mix end user list. The only thing I have made up in my mind is that my phone isn't gonna last forever as my daily driver because of these issues so I'm seeking suitable alternatives before I make the jump.

Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.

I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02

gtshiftin6 said:
I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02
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Appreciate the reply! I'll give this a shot, although I dont see why stock android wouldnt give me a better experience than MIUI. I used to love miui back in versions 6 & 7, and im not saying its bad now but i just had a bad experience with it on this device. but ill definitely give it another go!

rappa619 said:
Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.
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Thanks ! im in the USA, but i was trying to stay around that 500-600 price point, the S8+ is kinda pushing it being as though its $724.99 over here. the one plus is definitely a contender for the future though

I would try a few other ROMs before getting a different phone. AICP has been rock solid for me now for months.

One issue your having is the custom roms - I tried them all and more or less they all get buggy over time [some more than others]. I run stock global and its has next to never crashed [fc'ed], call quality is fine and carrier permitting the notifications [network related ones] show up fast / local ones never get missed.
Two the pixle only has a camera that's better, screen is worse more or less - storage is A LOT worse and you don't even really get a more durable device.
Been using mine as my daily driver since I picked it up in late Jan 2017 - its really never failed me as long as I didn't go rooting / fiddling with things. That brings me back to something I mentioned awhile back in another post. Miui doesn't like to be tampered with - roms based on this tend to become unstable [been using miui roms since 2008 or so and the behavior has never really changed]. The non miui roms are stable enough until you go messing with them too [especially visually]. In addition to that many of the custom roms seem to leave things out, often little things but they add up to annoyances.
Its your money - but the Pixel isn't the one I would go for if your looking to replace this thing. Its not that good a phone. Look at the Mate 9 / 10 series or some other designs.

Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!

albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Mi mix 3 looking good.

james1089 said:
Mi mix 3 looking good.
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LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .

Konstantine34 said:
LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html

Konstantine34 said:
LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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omerbagi10 said:
Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .
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Yeah more or less in the same spot. Still waiting and hoping for the guys behind AOSiP, AICP and Viper to bring Oreo to the Mix And maybe some new developer to get the phone and play around with it a bit.
The OP5T does look cool, probably the best value right now in the market. Maybe similar to Mix 2 although dev support is probably better for OP devices in general.
One thing about new notification shade: it is supposed to be there in the 7.12.8 beta (only china beta) , but it is not there in the same release of xiaomi.eu... Haven't tried official MIUI but I find it strange that it is not in the xiaomi.eu mod. Know something about it?
Searched miui forum and read changelogs and stuff and didn't actually find anything clear on the matter. And no official global beta since 7.5.25 I believe...

james1089 said:
It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html
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Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
jr313 said:
Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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Konstantine34 said:
Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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https://youtu.be/uuYcR7daXRs you can check it out here, it almost looks identical to what is seen in the mi mix video excluding the three cameras on back
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MI A2 - good choice?

Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks

Don't go for it

tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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Not fot LOS now but u get install PE or etc. now
Also i guess it will get LOS support later

rajuray795 said:
Don't go for it
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What else can you suggest?

I'm using the mi a2 for a month now, and I love it, it's fast, the bugs are minor (and it was fixed for me in the january update) so there is no reason to not buy it.
I recommend it!

tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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For me, it's worth it, although some user reported some issues but mine is good so far, almost 4 months now..
About LOS, A2 still doesn't have official build or official support yet, maybe soon.. But A2 already got official Pixel Experience rom which is better than stock in my opinion.. You can try other rom like Havoc or Pixys, if you want more customization
And I think you should wait a bit more for Redmi Note 7, it's a bit better than A2, based on the spec sheet
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_7-9513.php

Thanks. I dont want to wait - i need a new phone now. Redmi 7 global is not aviable yet and when its aviable community roms will also take time.
What is with security level in the a2 - is it possible for me to use the tan generator app from my bank ... n ooted phones the app dont starts ....

I am baffled 2irh the idiotic replies here. Nothing to back them up just don't go for it and put.
I change my phone's about 2 times a year and I love the latest Galaxy phone's as of the s7 and s8 with the latter being my favorite phone of all time, but I also like to use budget phone's of time to time to see how they compare. I have used one plus one, OnePlus 3, xiaomi mi a1 mi a2 some Huawei mate series the max series etc. And let me tell you that this phone is equals in terms of quality to most of the phone's I have used sometimes it even exceeds my expectations.
The phone one flaw is the camera, BUT if you are not a camera head you won't notice the difference that much in your day to day casual photos. Now I do notice it but I also use DSLR and come off a expensive phone with amazing camera, but even in my case I don't mind it it is not bad it is ... Just meh or ok.
The software is amazing, it is not perfect as montly security updates slowly become less and less with time, but it is Android ... What can you expect. Yet I have rearlt expiriqnced any bugs or problems with my xiaomi mi a1 or mi a2.
Build quality is equals with all yestaryear high end smartphones (I am saying yestaryear because it is a metal phone not a glass phone). To be fair there is zero difference with a 1000 USD USD phone at all.
These phones are amazing. I don't understand how ppl can sit here and complain about anything about these phones. And when you add in the price... Pffff. Best bang for buck.
I'd recommend to get the 6GB ram version phone for longer future proof if you like to keep your phone snappy for longer and/or to keep your phone longer in general.
Go foe it mate

tobben said:
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i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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Yeah get it, it won't disappoint you

Hello
No worries on my side with this phone

tldr: if you plan for custom roms get a redmi or poco f1. mi a2 is meant to be used stock.
it's biggest problem for banking apps is the lack of nfc.
with mi a2 you pay extra for android one (included in the phone price). if you dont want the official support(stock) then get a phone that doesnt include this.
if you want a better android one go for a nokia

Using this phone for 4-5 months and it's been pretty good. However one downside I would say is the battery. If you're a heavy user it will be pretty tough to make it to a day without charging (especially gaming). Otherwise no issues.

AB_98 said:
Using this phone for 4-5 months and it's been pretty good. However one downside I would say is the battery. If you're a heavy user it will be pretty tough to make it to a day without charging (especially gaming). Otherwise no issues.
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I second that. Battery for me has been a killer with light use of 3 days no charge and heavy use a day with zero issues. Optimisation is key but you can easily get 5+ sot easy.
PS: I do not game on my phone I work on it and with it. So that might be something I cannot comment on.

I can recommend this for the price if you like android one. If you can pay more pick a pocophone (it's day and night)

As almost everyone has said, it is a good phone, specially for the price. Coming from a Nexus 6P I was happily surprised by the performance, I can play quite a few GameCube games on Dolphin and games like Tekken, FIFA, Asphalt 9 and Horizon Chase run really well. I haven't tested Fortnite nor PUBG, cause those are not my type of games, but I've seen videos where those run fine. The only downsides are the battery (could be bigger, but it can last a day with moderate use) and the lack of Camera2Api support out of the box. If you value Android One, this is a great phone, you could check some Nokia phones but those tend to be a bit more expensive. If you don't care about MIUI, you can get a Redmi Note 5 Pro or 6 Pro, or the Mi 8 Lite. Those have similar specs, bigger batteries and might be cheaper or the same price.

It's awesome phone for that price ... Especially if you flash some custom rom and root ...

I'm not thrilled. using it for a few months now. general speed is ok. unfortunately bug fixes (including maxed out CPUs) and updates are not xiaomi's priority. you get what you pay for i guess. (even though the hardware is ok for that price)
also: hands off Nokia of you ask me. check out the anger in their Nokia 8 forum for example. they are treating their customers worse than any other company.

My first Android phone after using iPhone for years : How is Mi 9T ?

Hi
I want to buy Nova 5T or Mi 9T. I really like 9T but I have some concerns :
1. How good is AMOLED display build quality? Is it color accurate? How easily can burn in happens? Many people complained about jitter and ghost touch problems on this phone.
2. Many people complain about the battery life after updating to MIUI 11. Is the problem fixed and is the battery life like MIUI 9?
3. Android 11 will definitely come to 9T but what about 12 and 13? I’m not familiar with Xiaomi policy do they make old phones slow on purpose?
And 9T users ... What are cons and pros in the real life usage?
Full explanation here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...9t-nova-5t-t4116265/post82852497#post82852497
Thanks

amazing device..definately go for it

Stuttering and worse batery life after update to Miui 11, also bugs... Stay on iphone. I will switch back to iphone this month.

Artaherzadeh said:
Hi
I want to buy Nova 5T or Mi 9T. I really like 9T but I have some concerns :
1. How good is AMOLED display build quality? Is it color accurate? How easily can burn in happens? Many people complained about jitter and ghost touch problems on this phone.
2. Many people complain about the battery life after updating to MIUI 11. Is the problem fixed and is the battery life like MIUI 9?
3. Android 11 will definitely come to 9T but what about 12 and 13? I’m not familiar with Xiaomi policy do they make old phones slow on purpose?
And 9T users ... What are cons and pros in the real life usage?
Full explanation here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...9t-nova-5t-t4116265/post82852497#post82852497
Thanks
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The 9t is my first Xiaomi device too, I only owned Motorola devices until now.
1) For my eyes the display is colour accurate, no burn in until now (have to say that I own the device just a few month). No jitter or ghost touch problems.
2) I'm on latest MIUI 11 stable and battery life is just awesome compared to my other devices. I'm a heavy user (lot of SOT, WLAN/mobile data,GPS and Bluetooth) and until now I wasn't able to get under 35-40% after a day.
3) I can't tell you, maybe someone with more Xiaomi experience than I has to answer that.
If you're aware of the Xiaomi typic things like bloatware (can be solved with root privileges or by ADB without root) this device is a really good deal for the money. Camera, Display, overall speed.... I'm very satisfied with it.

Excellent device for its price., Using miuimix room or use miroom for best battery life and performance.

If you're an iPhone user I recommend you buying a Phone with Android stock or close like a Google Pixel or a OnePlus. You'll get a "polished" experience that will remind you iPhones whitout the drawbacks. MIUI, One UI... are less polished, I would not buy them If I were an iPhone user.
Writing from a Mi 9T, the phone is awesome, but maybe not for you
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If you're an iPhone user I recommend you buying a Phone with Android stock or close like a Google Pixel or a OnePlus. You'll get a "polished" experience that will remind you iPhones whitout the drawbacks. MIUI, One UI... are less polished, I would not buy them If I were an iPhone user.
Writing from a Mi 9T, the phone is awesome, but maybe not for you

I was using iphone XR before moving to Mi 9T.
Hardware wise is great and comparable to phones 2 to 3 times its price (think Oneplus 7T pro).
The only problem I have is with MIUI"s push notifications. There are many articles saying to turn on/off some options to make it work. But there are even more posts/comments saying that push notifications do not work even with those tweaks. After flashing to custom rom, the push notifications started working perfectly without any tinkering.
This is a deal breaker as I need push notifications to work reliably (so I can't use MIUI). With custom roms however, you have to play cat and mouse game with banking apps that keep getting more strict with detecting phones that are not using stock firmware.

1. The display is very good. I've had the phone for a few months now and have had no problems with burn-in or jitter/ghost touch problems
2. I was only on Miui for a few weeks, but the battery life is excellent!
3. I don't think that you will get many major updates, I think the Mi 9T will not even be updated to Android 12. But you will get feature updates (Miui updates).
I've never heard of any Xiaomi phone being slowed down on purpose...
4. A friend of mine used iPhones for years. At the beginning of the year she switched from her iPhone SE to the Mi 9T and has not regretted the change for a second. She quickly found her way around with Android/Miui.
5. I highly recommend the Mi 9T. The best thing is to inform yourself a bit about rooting etc. and change to a custom rom as soon as possible. (Don't get me wrong, Miui is not that bad. But I like stock Android custom roms like Pixel Experience or LineageOS just much better With these roms you will also get Android 12 and 13 etc.) You won't have the possibility to root and flash a custom rom on the Nova 5T, because Huawei has locked the bootloader.
Pros in real life usage:
+excellent battery life (~8h screen on time)
+good cameras (I usually take my pictures with a DSLR... So I don't need the phones cameras very often, but they are quite good!)
+brilliant bezel-less Display
+many Custom Roms available
Cons:
-I'm not a big fan of Miui, but that's a matter of taste.

Artaherzadeh said:
Hi
I want to buy Nova 5T or Mi 9T. I really like 9T but I have some concerns :
1. How good is AMOLED display build quality? Is it color accurate? How easily can burn in happens? Many people complained about jitter and ghost touch problems on this phone.
2. Many people complain about the battery life after updating to MIUI 11. Is the problem fixed and is the battery life like MIUI 9?
3. Android 11 will definitely come to 9T but what about 12 and 13? I’m not familiar with Xiaomi policy do they make old phones slow on purpose?
And 9T users ... What are cons and pros in the real life usage?
Full explanation here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...9t-nova-5t-t4116265/post82852497#post82852497
Thanks
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I recommend the MI9T
Great phone so far for me.
Pros:
1. Good display
2. Great performance for the price
3. Good battery life
4. No heating issues. (Im a heavy gamer )
5. Good camera
6. Sexy a*s design. (I get boner starring at it)
7. Fast finger print
Cons:
1. Camera night mode is awful ( u can install gcam)
2. I suggest u use a case cuz the phone is slippery
3. Facial recognition is pretty slow
*4. Thief attractor (phone too beautiful they can't resist getting their hands on it)
5. And then MIUI : dont get me wrong its awesome, I like the features and design . U won't find it hard with MIUI. But u get ads on the ROM and some slight bugs.
I unlocked my bootloader and installed xaoimi.eu ROM on it (miui v12 stable) which fixes almost everything wrong with the official one.
And if u stop receiving updates u can install custom ROMs. We have a great Dev team for this device.
Apart from that great phone.
P.s u can't unlock the bootloader of this Huawei phone

Artaherzadeh said:
Hi
I want to buy Nova 5T or Mi 9T. I really like 9T but I have some concerns :
1. How good is AMOLED display build quality? Is it color accurate? How easily can burn in happens? Many people complained about jitter and ghost touch problems on this phone.
2. Many people complain about the battery life after updating to MIUI 11. Is the problem fixed and is the battery life like MIUI 9?
3. Android 11 will definitely come to 9T but what about 12 and 13? I’m not familiar with Xiaomi policy do they make old phones slow on purpose?
And 9T users ... What are cons and pros in the real life usage?
Full explanation here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...9t-nova-5t-t4116265/post82852497#post82852497
Thanks
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My usage is about 6 months.
1. It's good. Nothing weird with the screen.
2. Performance is still as good as when I first got this phone. Updated to MIUI 11, I got the drain once and a simple reboot fixed it. Never happened ever since. Normally I got 8hrs SOT daily with intense usage. Hours on gaming and media consumption.
3. Nah if u talking about official Android update, getting +1 year is the best thing you can expect. But tbh compared to other Android brands Xiaomi is quite generous in giving MIUI updates (UI updates).
Their 3 years old phone was still getting MIUI 11 so maybe this phone will also get at least 3+ years of MIUI update. But if you able to learn how to flash custom roms, it's possible to update your phone even 5 years later.
If you're from any iPhone lower than X, then you'll probably be ok with this phone. My brother use an iPhone and the only thing I wish this phone is as good as the iPhone is the vibration motor (if u ever use iPhone then you know it's that good) and video camera. Not that the video from this phone is ugly. It's very capable, just not as good as the iPhone. Also I recommend to install gcam. Game changer for photo quality.

Display and fingerprint sensor manufacture
maxbeat93 said:
My usage is about 6 months.
1. It's good. Nothing weird with the screen.
2. Performance is still as good as when I first got this phone. Updated to MIUI 11, I got the drain once and a simple reboot fixed it. Never happened ever since. Normally I got 8hrs SOT daily with intense usage. Hours on gaming and media consumption.
3. Nah if u talking about official Android update, getting +1 year is the best thing you can expect. But tbh compared to other Android brands Xiaomi is quite generous in giving MIUI updates (UI updates).
Their 3 years old phone was still getting MIUI 11 so maybe this phone will also get at least 3+ years of MIUI update. But if you able to learn how to flash custom roms, it's possible to update your phone even 5 years later.
If you're from any iPhone lower than X, then you'll probably be ok with this phone. My brother use an iPhone and the only thing I wish this phone is as good as the iPhone is the vibration motor (if u ever use iPhone then you know it's that good) and video camera. Not that the video from this phone is ugly. It's very capable, just not as good as the iPhone. Also I recommend to install gcam. Game changer for photo quality.
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hulkyboi said:
I recommend the MI9T
Great phone so far for me.
Pros:
1. Good display
2. Great performance for the price
3. Good battery life
4. No heating issues. (Im a heavy gamer )
5. Good camera
6. Sexy a*s design. (I get boner starring at it)
7. Fast finger print
Cons:
1. Camera night mode is awful ( u can install gcam)
2. I suggest u use a case cuz the phone is slippery
3. Facial recognition is pretty slow
*4. Thief attractor (phone too beautiful they can't resist getting their hands on it)
5. And then MIUI : dont get me wrong its awesome, I like the features and design . U won't find it hard with MIUI. But u get ads on the ROM and some slight bugs.
I unlocked my bootloader and installed xaoimi.eu ROM on it (miui v12 stable) which fixes almost everything wrong with the official one.
And if u stop receiving updates u can install custom ROMs. We have a great Dev team for this device.
Apart from that great phone.
P.s u can't unlock the bootloader of this Huawei phone
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spring_roll said:
1. The display is very good. I've had the phone for a few months now and have had no problems with burn-in or jitter/ghost touch problems
2. I was only on Miui for a few weeks, but the battery life is excellent!
3. I don't think that you will get many major updates, I think the Mi 9T will not even be updated to Android 12. But you will get feature updates (Miui updates).
I've never heard of any Xiaomi phone being slowed down on purpose...
4. A friend of mine used iPhones for years. At the beginning of the year she switched from her iPhone SE to the Mi 9T and has not regretted the change for a second. She quickly found her way around with Android/Miui.
5. I highly recommend the Mi 9T. The best thing is to inform yourself a bit about rooting etc. and change to a custom rom as soon as possible. (Don't get me wrong, Miui is not that bad. But I like stock Android custom roms like Pixel Experience or LineageOS just much better With these roms you will also get Android 12 and 13 etc.) You won't have the possibility to root and flash a custom rom on the Nova 5T, because Huawei has locked the bootloader.
Pros in real life usage:
+excellent battery life (~8h screen on time)
+good cameras (I usually take my pictures with a DSLR... So I don't need the phones cameras very often, but they are quite good!)
+brilliant bezel-less Display
+many Custom Roms available
Cons:
-I'm not a big fan of Miui, but that's a matter of taste.
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catpuke said:
I was using iphone XR before moving to Mi 9T.
Hardware wise is great and comparable to phones 2 to 3 times its price (think Oneplus 7T pro).
The only problem I have is with MIUI"s push notifications. There are many articles saying to turn on/off some options to make it work. But there are even more posts/comments saying that push notifications do not work even with those tweaks. After flashing to custom rom, the push notifications started working perfectly without any tinkering.
This is a deal breaker as I need push notifications to work reliably (so I can't use MIUI). With custom roms however, you have to play cat and mouse game with banking apps that keep getting more strict with detecting phones that are not using stock firmware.
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electronique13 said:
If you're an iPhone user I recommend you buying a Phone with Android stock or close like a Google Pixel or a OnePlus. You'll get a "polished" experience that will remind you iPhones whitout the drawbacks. MIUI, One UI... are less polished, I would not buy them If I were an iPhone user.
Writing from a Mi 9T, the phone is awesome, but maybe not for you
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If you're an iPhone user I recommend you buying a Phone with Android stock or close like a Google Pixel or a OnePlus. You'll get a "polished" experience that will remind you iPhones whitout the drawbacks. MIUI, One UI... are less polished, I would not buy them If I were an iPhone user.
Writing from a Mi 9T, the phone is awesome, but maybe not for you
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Wolfcity said:
The 9t is my first Xiaomi device too, I only owned Motorola devices until now.
1) For my eyes the display is colour accurate, no burn in until now (have to say that I own the device just a few month). No jitter or ghost touch problems.
2) I'm on latest MIUI 11 stable and battery life is just awesome compared to my other devices. I'm a heavy user (lot of SOT, WLAN/mobile data,GPS and Bluetooth) and until now I wasn't able to get under 35-40% after a day.
3) I can't tell you, maybe someone with more Xiaomi experience than I has to answer that.
If you're aware of the Xiaomi typic things like bloatware (can be solved with root privileges or by ADB without root) this device is a really good deal for the money. Camera, Display, overall speed.... I'm very satisfied with it.
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Thanks for your replies. I read that Xiaomi gets AMOLED screens from two companies one Samsung and the other one is Visionox. ( VDE ID.40049450 & VDE ID.40050054 )
People say Xiaomi display is a lottery and also for the fingerprint they used another company’s sensor after the launch. ( First units get a nice FPC one that works great every time, then they silently introduce models with Goodix fingerprint readers instead which just aren't on par. )
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/c0hqqk/mi_9t_has_amoled_instead_of_samsung_amoled_should/
Is there anyway to find out which display is used before I buy a phone and open the package?
The thing is I’m on budget right now and I don’t want to sell my iPhone 7 and get a defective phone.

Artaherzadeh said:
Thanks for your replies. I read that Xiaomi gets AMOLED screens from two companies one Samsung and the other one is Visionox. ( VDE ID.40049450 & VDE ID.40050054 )
People say Xiaomi display is a lottery and also for the fingerprint they used another company’s sensor after the launch. ( First units get a nice FPC one that works great every time, then they silently introduce models with Goodix fingerprint readers instead which just aren't on par. )
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/c0hqqk/mi_9t_has_amoled_instead_of_samsung_amoled_should/
Is there anyway to find out which display is used before I buy a phone and open the package?
The thing is I’m on budget right now and I don’t want to sell my iPhone 7 and get a defective phone.
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Never heard of that and I have no idea how to detect in advance which display/fingerprint reader is used.
But I checked mine and it says goodix fingerprint, which is the cheaper one, and I'm satisfied with it...
Probably the display will also be the "cheaper" one, but I have absolutely nothing to complain about it! ?*

Screen is on top!
Camera is average nowadays (I got a View 20 it's miles away for pictures quality)
I got it for 1 week and got to say I'm only satisfied with Lineage OS custom ROM. The MIUI ROM is so bloated and buggy I almost returned the phone after a few days ? I would not suggest this device to someone coming from iPhone. Better go for a OnePlus device.
But if you love flashing and tweaking phones, go for it ? the price/quality ratio is good.

I'd recommend buying Nova 5T. Davinci is a good phone, but you need to debloat it after buying, then you may face UI performance issue (my phone was laggy but after deleting App Vault app update it worked properly, overall it is a rare problem). This is still a really good phone, I really enjoy using it. Also, it has better cameras and makes better photos with GCam than Nova does (my friend bought Nova and we compared). But Huawei has a more powerful CPU and no bloatware, usable out of the box so to say. Also, you should be familiar with EMUI as it copies IOS in many aspects. So, if you don't take too many photos at night and not going to root your phone or flash any custom ROM, I think Nova 5T is better than MI 9T

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Never heard of that and I have no idea how to detect in advance which display/fingerprint reader is used.
But I checked mine and it says goodix fingerprint, which is the cheaper one, and I'm satisfied with it...
Probably the display will also be the "cheaper" one, but I have absolutely nothing to complain about it! ?*
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Which app you use to detect your fingerprint (hardware) type?

zgfg said:
Which app you use to detect your fingerprint (hardware) type?
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Device Info HW
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.andr7e.deviceinfohw

spring_roll said:
Device Info HW
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.andr7e.deviceinfohw
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Thanks
Touchscreen works excellent (goodix_ts) but fingerprint (goodix_ts) is practically of no use, total sh...(MIUI 10,11)

screen jitter and ghosting have been fixed for a while now, I haven't experienced those problems in a very long time. Mi 9T is very good for basically everything if you're a normal or heavy user, if you are a serious gamer or modder I would recommend the pro. Display has no issues and I have overclocked it and done tons of risky stuff with my display. Your milage may vary so don't take me for granted.

Artaherzadeh said:
Thanks for your replies. I read that Xiaomi gets AMOLED screens from two companies one Samsung and the other one is Visionox. ( VDE ID.40049450 & VDE ID.40050054 )
People say Xiaomi display is a lottery and also for the fingerprint they used another company’s sensor after the launch. ( First units get a nice FPC one that works great every time, then they silently introduce models with Goodix fingerprint readers instead which just aren't on par. )
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/c0hqqk/mi_9t_has_amoled_instead_of_samsung_amoled_should/
Is there anyway to find out which display is used before I buy a phone and open the package?
The thing is I’m on budget right now and I don’t want to sell my iPhone 7 and get a defective phone.
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Have to say, fingerprint sensor is not that fast. My only con.
About jumping to android. You definetly have to bee open mind and curious to get the most of it. Unlock bootloader, root and, most of all, debloat, is a must to have the best experience.
About Xiaomi. I reallly like miui, but this is a matter of taste. I had a redmi note 5 before and I see that it is steel being updated. So, about that, don't worry.