I just got a prompt to update the V20 on a OTA. I'll report back when it's done and any details
Here's the OTA download link
did you check what version is? for now only H91810k
https://en.support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-32430
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I did the update also. I noticed the baseband is cut off.
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And the revised screen when trying to restart.
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Anti-Rollback version: 1
That's the first time it has increased, yes? 10k was still 0 I think.
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Anti-Rollback version: 1
That's the first time it has increased, yes? 10k was still 0 I think.
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Damn it I hope that not means once update you can`t go back?
Mervingio said:
Damn it I hope that not means once update you can`t go back?
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If 10k was 0, then yes, you can't go back to 10k without bricking your phone.
Definitely waiting on this if can't go back
Any idea to when we'll have this implemented in ROM's like WETA?
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If 10k was 0, then yes, you can't go back to 10k without bricking your phone.
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Jeez. Luckly im in WETA Rom 10k update i dont think im planning to restore to factory just to move to 10p. I have the feeling LG will becoming like Samsung and the Knox system. Given the fact that they are already making the LG V30 to be more like the other flagships (no removable battery and all that) or we dont have to go that far, we can already see it on the g6. They are practically doing the same thing that samsung did. From Samsung galaxy s1 to s5 it was removable battery and there were some features that are not present anymore from the s6 to the present s version. Same thing with the Note series. Now if we take a look at LG, from LG G1 to G5 it was removable battery among other features that are not found any more from the g6 to probably the possible g version. Same thing happens with the V series. From V10 to V20 it is removable battery among other features that wont be found anymore on the V30. Rumors are there wont be a second screen on the V30 (and i thought that's one of the things that made the phone different from other flagships). But well... If they are making changes to external and some internal things to make it look like other flagships, why wouldnt they apply somethig like knox too new updates or for the brand new LG V30 about to come? . Lets see when the V30 actually comes out,
got the kdz for 10p update will upload in a bit
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Jeez. Luckly im in WETA Rom 10k update i dont think im planning to restore to factory just to move to 10p. I have the feeling LG will becoming like Samsung and the Knox system. Given the fact that they are already making the LG V30 to be more like the other flagships (no removable battery and all that) or we dont have to go that far, we can already see it on the g6. They are practically doing the same thing that samsung did. From Samsung galaxy s1 to s5 it was removable battery and there were some features that are not present anymore from the s6 to the present s version. Same thing with the Note series. Now if we take a look at LG, from LG G1 to G5 it was removable battery among other features that are not found any more from the g6 to probably the possible g version. Same thing happens with the V series. From V10 to V20 it is removable battery among other features that wont be found anymore on the V30. Rumors are there wont be a second screen on the V30 (and i thought that's one of the things that made the phone different from other flagships). But well... If they are making changes to external and some internal things to make it look like other flagships, why wouldnt they apply somethig like knox too new updates or for the brand new LG V30 about to come? . Lets see when the V30 actually comes out,
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You have 1 fact wrong, my T-Mobile LG G2 d801 has no removable battery and no sd slot, I believe the original LG G is the same way.
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You have 1 fact wrong, my T-Mobile LG G2 d801 has no removable battery and no sd slot, I believe the original LG G is the same way.
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My bad. thanks for clarifying. Nevertheless, it doesnt change the fact that LG is kind of using the same idea than other smartphones nowadays Maybe even to start using the same knox with a different name. Who knows hahaha
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Damn it I hope that not means once update you can`t go back?
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I have not found a way to defeat the stupid antirollback stuff yet! I will keep searching but at this point the phone seams to be unrootable
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I have not found a way to defeat the stupid antirollback stuff yet! I will keep searching but at this point the phone seams to be unrootable
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I think can`t be only hope is Root
I might have the solution for root. But I need someone who can test it out for me.
If you are on "H91810p" and have your bootloader unlocked (if not I can tell you how to do it), let me know so that I can walk you through the steps. It going to be bit involved so not for first timers.
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I might have the solution for root. But I need someone who can test it out for me.
If you are on "H91810p" and have your bootloader unlocked (if not I can tell you how to do it), let me know so that I can walk you through the steps. It going to be bit involved so not for first timers.
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i think you should create a new thread asking for volunteers... not sure how many you would get from here, although, why can't you try it and see if it works?
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i think you should create a new thread asking for volunteers... not sure how many you would get from here, although, why can't you try it and see if it works?
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I only need one person for now. I will try it on my phone but I don't have my bootloader unlocked. I could unlock it but it will wipe everything on my phone in the process which I don't want to do right now. I'm 99% sure that this method will work on 10p.
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I only need one person for now. I will try it on my phone but I don't have my bootloader unlocked. I could unlock it but it will wipe everything on my phone in the process which I don't want to do right now. I'm 99% sure that this method will work on 10p.
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Did it work?
Related
Here's hoping. I loved the g2 but this looks fantastic.
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Here's hoping. I loved the g2 but this looks fantastic.
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True that! I just hope this isn't locked down like the GS5
They didn't lock down the m8...hopefully they won't lock the g3 down..if they do I'll probably go with the m8.
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What's this lock down?
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True that! I just hope this isn't locked down like the GS5
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It most likely will be lock down. The loki exploit that was used to root the G2 was patched with android 4.4.
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What's this lock down?
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The bootloader.
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It most likely will be lock down. The loki exploit that was used to root the G2 was patched with android 4.4.
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Being on a ATT One X I'm out of the loop has any exploit been found for 4.4? Or will we be in the same boat as the GS5 guys? How is the M8 doing?
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Being on a ATT One X I'm out of the loop has any exploit been found for 4.4? Or will we be in the same boat as the GS5 guys? How is the M8 doing?
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No exploit has been found for 4.4 so as far as I know, we will be in the same situation that we are in the S5.
HTC is a different story cause they provide a method to unlock the bootloader via HTC dev.
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I'm so hoping AT&T gets the G3 (and hoping even more the bootloader is unlocked).. I have the LG OG Pro, and LOVE it, but ready for something newer.. Would have got the G2, but the lack of a SD card slot turned me away from it.. Just hope we get lucky! :fingers-crossed:
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I'm so hoping AT&T gets the G3 (and hoping even more the bootloader is unlocked).. I have the LG OG Pro, and LOVE it, but ready for something newer.. Would have got the G2, but the lack of a SD card slot turned me away from it.. Just hope we get lucky! :fingers-crossed:
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I love my OG Pro...like looove it, but when ATT offered me an early upgrade (1 year early) on my line, I opted for the S5...not knowing that it was bootloader locked.
Depending on the info released today and when it comes available, I may be returning my GS5 for the G3. Because you know... LG > Samsung in my book. (Even though I had both Note and Note 2)
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I'm so hoping AT&T gets the G3 (and hoping even more the bootloader is unlocked).. I have the LG OG Pro, and LOVE it, but ready for something newer.. Would have got the G2, but the lack of a SD card slot turned me away from it.. Just hope we get lucky! :fingers-crossed:
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G3 is coming to all of the big 4. There's no chance in hell it will come with bootloader unlocked when getting the device through the carrier. If you want an unlocked bootloader, but it from 3rd party reseller or hope for a new exploit.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/lg-g3.html
You guys might be real happy about this, I just read this article, where they did a benchmark with an International version the LG-F400S LG G3 variant which apparently works on AT&T's LTE network. My guess while not only does an International version work on AT&T which is amazing news, but chances are, wouldn't that also mean that the device in theory would also be factory Unlocked?!? :good:
Here's the article.
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I'm so hoping AT&T gets the G3 (and hoping even more the bootloader is unlocked).. I have the LG OG Pro, and LOVE it, but ready for something newer.. Would have got the G2, but the lack of a SD card slot turned me away from it.. Just hope we get lucky! :fingers-crossed:
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You might also consider the G2, spec wise very similar to the S5, but can be rooted easily and custom recovery installed (not T-Mobile) without having to downgrade the OS from Kit Kat first. The first step requires a computer using IOROOT25, which roots the phone, the an app that installs on the phone called Autorec, installs recovery. Easy as pie. I hope the G3 will be just as easy.
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You might also consider the G2, spec wise very similar to the S5, but can be rooted easily and custom recovery installed (not T-Mobile) without having to downgrade the OS from Kit Kat first. The first step requires a computer using IOROOT25, which roots the phone, the an app that installs on the phone called Autorec, installs recovery. Easy as pie. I hope the G3 will be just as easy.
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I looked into getting the G2 before I decided on my Optimus G Pro, but the lack of an SD slot instantly turned me away.. I've rooted many phones and installed more roms and kernels than I can count.. I'm studying development right now trying to get the hang of it so I can develop roms/kernels etc.. Thanks for your input!
I need a new phone bad and the LG G3 has everything I want. Sleek design, Wireless Charging, Removable battery, etc. If ATT locks down the bootloader, I'll be looking elsewhere.
I walked into an ATT store the other day and said I'm looking for a new phone. He said everyone really likes the GS5. I rolled my eyes and said no thanks. He had a puzzled look on his face and then I told him I'm not buying a bootloader locked phone. He just mumbled, "uh ya" and walked away. I walked out.
I was going to wait for the nexus 6 but that is dead now.
Looks like HTC is the only option these days for root and custom roms unless you go Oppo or One Plus One.
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I need a new phone bad and the LG G3 has everything I want. Sleek design, Wireless Charging, Removable battery, etc. If ATT locks down the bootloader, I'll be looking elsewhere.
I walked into an ATT store the other day and said I'm looking for a new phone. He said everyone really likes the GS5. I rolled my eyes and said no thanks. He had a puzzled look on his face and then I told him I'm not buying a bootloader locked phone. He just mumbled, "uh ya" and walked away. I walked out.
I was going to wait for the nexus 6 but that is dead now.
Looks like HTC is the only option these days for root and custom roms unless you go Oppo or One Plus One.
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You can get the international version of all the phones you mentioned and they come with unlocked bootloaders. Look in the XDA forum for those phones (S5) and they probably have custom rom and a root process.....
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You can get the international version of all the phones you mentioned and they come with unlocked bootloaders. Look in the XDA forum for those phones (S5) and they probably have custom rom and a root process.....
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The problem is having to pay full price for the phone. Yes, I know contracts end up being more expensive, but not everyone has about $700 in their pocket to drop on a phone.
I was thinking of picking up one of the Korean version on ebay. How can I know for sure that I will get 4g on AT&T?
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I was thinking of picking up one of the Korean version on ebay. How can I know for sure that I will get 4g on AT&T?
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Check out post #13 of this thread.
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checked devtester http://devtester.ro/projects/lg-firmwares/country.php?country=Taiwan
and sure enough there's a new firmware when I checked LG Bridge.
No OTA notification for me yet though
if only we could root
Absolutely no interest in Marshmallow unless we finally get a bootloader unlock for the TWN variant.
Absolutely love my G4, but I have no respect for their decision to simply ignore the wishes of developers/people who want to use their phone how THEY want.
Poor form LG, poor form indeed.
Weirdly it was there Last night on my netbook but it refused to Work as it didn't have enough ram available. Today on Work computer it said no update available! Looks like they pulled it again
And when I tried again just there now again it's gone! Update withdrawn: AGAIN!
is there any KDZ available that we could flash using LGUP?
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Absolutely no interest in Marshmallow unless we finally get a bootloader unlock for the TWN variant.
Absolutely love my G4, but I have no respect for their decision to simply ignore the wishes of developers/people who want to use their phone how THEY want.
Poor form LG, poor form indeed.
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Same! I absolutely love my G4 but bcoz of this ridiculous decision of theirs I will never buy another one and will steer everyone I know away from them. The way they are carrying on you would think they were worried everyone in the world wants to unlock their bootloaders but it's only enthusiasts and devs, the very people they should be making happy as it's us that spreads word of mouth recommendations. Which is the best form of marketing. I updated to MM bcoz I've totally lost faith in LG and got sick of waiting for either them to have a change of heart or devs to come up with a solution (which LG will probably try and thwart). I'm joining the Nexus army!
i see the update available in mac versions of lg bridge but not the pc version. it goes through the whole download process and then the update fails on two separate macs. pretty frustrating.
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Weirdly it was there Last night on my netbook but it refused to Work as it didn't have enough ram available. Today on Work computer it said no update available! Looks like they pulled it again
And when I tried again just there now again it's gone! Update withdrawn: AGAIN!
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Yep, it was available for me last night, but now it says no update available. They pulled it.
I wanted to have a play before I sell my G4.
I have the kdz file, if you want I can upload it
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I have the kdz file, if you want I can upload it
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Please upload it. I really need it.
okay uplodaing
Man don't even bother flashing marshmallow onto your phone. It's not what you think it is. I did flash using LGUP and what a mistake it was too flash the marshmallow kdz. You only get half the screen on time compared to lollipop. So hold of until they sort the issues out
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/h815-twn-kdz-t3272976
kdz file here
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Man don't even bother flashing marshmallow onto your phone. It's not what you think it is. I did flash using LGUP and what a mistake it was too flash the marshmallow kdz. You only get half the screen on time compared to lollipop. So hold of until they sort the issues out
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Thank you for your advice.
It's much more smoother and no bugs that I encounter so far, a few days needed for doze mode to kick in. I highly recommend it, you won't regret.
I do think if they pulled it (or aren't ready to release and someone accidentally pushed it out prematurely) then it's for a reason. If they have it ready then why would they hold it back? I'll let them continue to bug test and i'll get it when ready. Lollipop is still fairly new and without better battery life I don't see the point of marshmallow at this point.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/h815-twn-kdz-t3272976
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Thread closed, please use the above thread
When I got my first phone (DROID RAZR M) I didn't even know what root was. After a year and my warranty's term, I found out and unlocked the bootloader just for fun. When I got my Verizon Note 4, I found out about KNOX and its hardware flag that can't be reversed. I had to wait 1.5 years for root on that anyway, but I'm keeping my Samsung tablet stock for the first year because of that flag.
My question: does LG have anything like Samsung KNOX? If I root right now, will I not just be able to flash back to stock and keep my warranty if needed? Or is LG nicer to power users?
Since I lose all data with a bootloader unlock, I'd rather do it sooner than later, but if I permanently trip some flag by doing so, I'd rather wait the year.
I've moved to T-Mobile, so I have the H918. I know I can root and I've seen the guide, but I don't know if I should root.
Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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It's actually really exciting to see all the development for this phone so far. I don't have much basis to judge from, but it's definitely a lot more than my Note.
So there's no hardware switch that'll be tripped? Is root reversible?
I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
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I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
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Well I guess Google does a pretty good job of backing up app data (which I didn't know they even did), so if I have to wipe, it probably won't be too bad.
If no one has heard of an LG KNOX equivalent, that gives me hope that there is none, and I'll be able to revert, which is definitely a plus for LG.
Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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I agree!
Christufurr said:
Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Hi Christufurr,
Did you have a chance to unroot your phone ? If yes, please let me how did yiu do that.
Thank you
I just purchased a LS997 with ZV8 software version.
I am assuming that the 'recowvery' technique that I have seen won't work, and that dirty Santa only works to ZV7.
I read a number of comments on the LAFSPLOIT thread that made me believe that a technique may be available, but that it won't be released till the next version of Android (Oreo) is released for LG V20, or 2020.
I'm actually probably going to be OK with waiting, but, I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
Alternatively, I'm not opposed to returning the phone to the seller, and purchasing one that I know will work with TWRP and Root. What model presents the easiest root? I like the 910 and the 918, as they have FM radio, which would be a cool feature to have.
At any rate, what are your opinions regarding both keeping the ZV8, or returning it and buying a different one, as well as, if I buy one, which should I buy for easiest and stablelest root.
And what are your recommendations for ROMS too? I previously had a LG G3, with FULMICS 8 on it, and really liked that.
Thank you, in advance for bot your time reading this, and possibly for the time you spent answering my query as well!
CHEERS
Kevin
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I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
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I would say it's likely something will be released, but unequivocally? Unless you hear it from @runningnak3d, don't believe it.
If I were you, I would trade your LS997 for a H918 and root using lafsploit.
Good luck!
wyldnewbie said:
I just purchased a LS997 with ZV8 software version.
I am assuming that the 'recowvery' technique that I have seen won't work, and that dirty Santa only works to ZV7.
I read a number of comments on the LAFSPLOIT thread that made me believe that a technique may be available, but that it won't be released till the next version of Android (Oreo) is released for LG V20, or 2020.
I'm actually probably going to be OK with waiting, but, I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
Alternatively, I'm not opposed to returning the phone to the seller, and purchasing one that I know will work with TWRP and Root. What model presents the easiest root? I like the 910 and the 918, as they have FM radio, which would be a cool feature to have.
At any rate, what are your opinions regarding both keeping the ZV8, or returning it and buying a different one, as well as, if I buy one, which should I buy for easiest and stablelest root.
And what are your recommendations for ROMS too? I previously had a LG G3, with FULMICS 8 on it, and really liked that.
Thank you, in advance for bot your time reading this, and possibly for the time you spent answering my query as well!
CHEERS
Kevin
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Or buy a Samsung, updates and support from LG sucks
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Well. I think you've got the right idea,,,
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Are there any versions or builds to avoid? That would make root access harder, I meAn.
Thank you very much for your input and time.
Kevin
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I had to go off the grid for a while due to a family emergency. Because of that emergency, I realized just how MUCH I used the ability to swap batteries. I refuse to buy a phone that is sealed.
The V20 is a little dated, but it is plenty speedy for what I do (if I want to game, I will buy a freaking 3DS or a Switch).
Now I am getting to the point. I have an H918, and as long as I have an H918, it will be rootable. Take that however you want
-- Brian
You are (without a doubt) THE MAN!
runningnak3d said:
I had to go off the grid for a while due to a family emergency. Because of that emergency, I realized just how MUCH I used the ability to swap batteries. I refuse to buy a phone that is sealed.
The V20 is a little dated, but it is plenty speedy for what I do (if I want to game, I will buy a freaking 3DS or a Switch).
Now I am getting to the point. I have an H918, and as long as I have an H918, it will be rootable. Take that however you want
-- Brian
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Brian,
I ended up returning the LS997 I had, because even though it was GSM unlockeď, I couldn't get MMS via SMS to work. It seemed like the MMS settings weren't being modified when I set up my APN for Virgin Mobile Canada. I am now hunting ebay for a H918.
I have been following your various threads here on XDA, and have to say that I appreciate the way you think through these things.
Also, I hope that your family emergency has resolved well.
Are the any specific 918s that I should avoid (ie: android or lg software updates, ARBs, etc...)
Thank you again.
Kevin
Well, I can't deny good advice when it's given !
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I would say it's likely something will be released, but unequivocally? Unless you hear it from @runningnak3d, don't believe it.
If I were you, I would trade your LS997 for a H918 and root using lafsploit.
Good luck!
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As it happened, the LS997 wasn't sending MMS via SMS, and seemed to not let me update the MMS section of the APN settings. So I've sent it back. Am looking for a nice H918 right now.
So... thank you for your good advice!
Kevin
Yea, it makes no difference what software is on the H918.
The LS997 should be avoided like the plague. It will be rootable, but it will probably never be worth a damn. Sprint had LG flip additional switches in that models CPU (qfuses), so hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted. For example, cellular bands being disabled at the hardware level.
When the 700Mhz auction took place, Google was able to get some provisions into the agreement for that spectrum where carriers had to allow other devices on their network, and had to allow for unlocking. However, if the phone doesn't have the hardware needed to work on other carriers, well, then it is moot.
Sprint is taking advantage of that, and making sure their models only work on their network. They need to keep as many customers as they can.
-- Brian
Hi Brian,
I have an unlocked LSS97, I'm not sure how they unlocked it as I bought it from a mobile seller.
But unfortunately, I updated the software from ZV6 or ZV7 to ZVA (ARB=1) , and now I'm stuck with it. I'm still waiting for magical happens on my device, so that I can root it and flash a customer kernel and rom, since the stock rom is messy for me. It's very laggy even when I play game on low graphic setting (PUBG is an example), while other phone with lower GPU can play it smoothly.
But you said that "hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted", does it mean that even I root the phone and install another kernel, issue related to GPU/ CPU is still there? And how about the network?
As of now, I can't find any other phone has the reasonable price than LG V20 (for Camera quality, dual screen and speaker).
Thank you!
dvckbiz said:
Hi Brain,
I have an unlocked LSS97, I'm not sure how they unlocked it as I bought it from a mobile seller.
But unfortunately, I updated the software from ZV6 or ZV7 to ZVA (ARB=1) , and now I'm stuck with it. I'm still waiting for magical happens on my device, so that I can root it and flash a customer kernel and rom, since the stock rom is messy for me. It's very laggy even when I play game on low graphic setting (PUBG is an example), while other phone with lower GPU can play it smoothly.
But you said that "hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted", does it mean that even I root the phone and install another kernel, issue related to GPU/ CPU is still there? And how about the network?
As of now, I can't find any other phone has the reasonable price than LG V20 (for Camera quality, dual screen and speaker).
Thank you!
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If you follow his other threads you'd know he's been working on a root solution for the 997 so be patient otherwise if you want be risky he has a thread here seeking volunteers to test just know you due risk a possible brick. Your issues won't be solved just by rooting, those issues are typically kernel, hardware, and rom related.
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I am talking about using it as a phone on any carrier besides Sprint. Yes, once rooted, you can turn it into a fine tablet -- it is phone calls that I was referring to.
If it works fine for you now making phone calls, then it will continue to do so. The lag can be fixed.
-- Brian
cnjax said:
If you follow his other threads you'd know he's been working on a root solution for the 997 so be patient otherwise if you want be risky he has a thread here seeking volunteers to test just know you due risk a possible brick. Your issues won't be solved just by rooting, those issues are typically kernel, hardware, and rom related.
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
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I have been following the LAF exploit thread for a long time, and very happy to see that he have come back and opened another LS997 rooting thread. But you know, my concern is about performance of the phone; will be improved with another kernel / rom or not.
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I am talking about using it as a phone on any carrier besides Sprint. Yes, once rooted, you can turn it into a fine tablet -- it is phone calls that I was referring to.
If it works fine for you now making phone calls, then it will continue to do so. The lag can be fixed.
-- Brian
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Thank you Brian for this good news ^_^
I did, and I did,and your advice was very correct. I like my H918 more than the LS997.....
I'm a happier guy for having followed your advice.....
Sorry... I was responding to the person who told me to get a 918
Hey guys... long time since i posted here. I still have my V20 H910 and i want to upgrade it to Oreo. ATT sim in phone will not show or allow any updates (says up to date) So i been trying to see what would the easiest way to flash H915 (All that ATT bloat gone) while still being able to use LTE? (Phone is now unlocked so i wont be on ATT)
I have been looking at all these guides but i seem to be getting mixed answers...
Can anyone point me down the right path? I saw somewhere that the H915 OREO KDZ is all you need while others say you need to root and patch the modem... So confused...
Appreciate it!
The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
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The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
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Thanks for the post - I was wondering, what would you say were the main benefits of moving up to Oreo? Up until I bought a few Li-Po batteries I figured I might as well give it a go as the battery life was SHOCKING anyway and I'd most likely end up selling the phone so I had nothing to lose, but now I've gone from 2-3.5 hrs SOT to 5.5-7.5 hrs and I'm really happy with the phone.
Like you I'm generally reluctant to upgrade phones as there do tend to be bugs that crop up and battery life can take a hit which, for me, negates the minimal gains I'd receive with the features of the new OS (in this case, the option for some camera mods in GCAM).
I've also started using a couple of App-only bank accounts so leaving my phone rooted isn't an option (I use them for travelling so I don't get charged for international exchange rates etc).
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Thanks for the post - I was wondering, what would you say were the main benefits of moving up to Oreo? Up until I bought a few Li-Po batteries I figured I might as well give it a go as the battery life was SHOCKING anyway and I'd most likely end up selling the phone so I had nothing to lose, but now I've gone from 2-3.5 hrs SOT to 5.5-7.5 hrs and I'm really happy with the phone.
Like you I'm generally reluctant to upgrade phones as there do tend to be bugs that crop up and battery life can take a hit which, for me, negates the minimal gains I'd receive with the features of the new OS (in this case, the option for some camera mods in GCAM).
I've also started using a couple of App-only bank accounts so leaving my phone rooted isn't an option (I use them for travelling so I don't get charged for international exchange rates etc).
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Oreo is speedier and supports LDAC. Actually that's it. At least for me. . GCam is also working with nougat btw.
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Oreo is speedier and supports LDAC. Actually that's it. At least for me. . GCam is also working with nougat btw.
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Speedier? Is it noticeable in general use?
I just looked up LDAC - I tend to go for quantity over quality when it comes to listening to music on the move (I travel for 4-8 months a year so I try and download as much as I can to my device to negate the impact of poor wifi).
Yes, I have GCam on mine but it's the later stuff, the "night sight" that I'm interested in and it seems that only works on Oreo
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Speedier? Is it noticeable in general use?
I just looked up LDAC - I tend to go for quantity over quality when it comes to listening to music on the move (I travel for 4-8 months a year so I try and download as much as I can to my device to negate the impact of poor wifi).
Yes, I have GCam on mine but it's the later stuff, the "night sight" that I'm interested in and it seems that only works on Oreo
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Night sight is not good on the LG V20 oreo. My phone starts to lag and colors are not realistic. No generally you won't feel the difference. So if you are afraid of rooting it bc you are not a big tech guy. Just leave it and use nougat
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Night sight is not good on the LG V20 oreo. My phone starts to lag and colors are not realistic. No generally you won't feel the difference. So if you are afraid of rooting it bc you are not a big tech guy. Just leave it and use nougat
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Ah right, so night sight isn't working very well for you? Combine that with the speed increase not being overly dramatic and I think my decision is made - thanks for your input, much appreciated.
But no, it's not because "I'm not a big tech guy" - I've been using xda for years - my first smart phone was a used HTC HD2 that I switched from window to Android and then had it running natively from the sd card I've had 3 Samsung's that have all had a decent level of work done on them, the reason I'm reluctant to root the V20 is as I mentioned, I don't want to risk the banking apps being screwed up or the battery life taking a hit .
For once I might just resist the urge to tinker to possibly make a phone that works well, work a little better and then running into all kinds of annoying issues!:laugh:
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Ah right, so night sight isn't working very well for you? Combine that with the speed increase not being overly dramatic and I think my decision is made - thanks for your input, much appreciated.
But no, it's not because "I'm not a big tech guy" - I've been using xda for years - my first smart phone was a used HTC HD2 that I switched from window to Android and then had it running natively from the sd card I've had 3 Samsung's that have all had a decent level of work done on them, the reason I'm reluctant to root the V20 is as I mentioned, I don't want to risk the banking apps being screwed up or the battery life taking a hit .
For once I might just resist the urge to tinker to possibly make a phone that works well, work a little better and then running into all kinds of annoying issues!:laugh:
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But like I said in my first post. If you install the official oreo att zip with twrp, the root will be undone and the Bootloader will be locked again! So banking apps should work again! My oreo is absolutely stock now.
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But like I said in my first post. If you install the official oreo att zip with twrp, the root will be undone and the Bootloader will be locked again! So banking apps should work again! My oreo is absolutely stock now.
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Yes, I understood that, but there really isn't any reason for me to do that and upset how the V20 is working at the moment - I've NEVER had a process involving rooting a device go without a hitch (I must be super unlucky!) so I'll just leave well alone. If I had a second device I'd most definitely give it a go.
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The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
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Hi, im thinking of doing this on my v20 that currently has LOS16 on it but the camera is not working and the battery life is horrendous. can you tell me if the hotspot works using this method, thats the main reason i changed from stock.
This is rather extreme to get a phone updated. If you are in the US, you just have to borrow or order an AT&T SIM to get your phone updated. This might even work outside US, but I don't know.