Here's hoping. I loved the g2 but this looks fantastic.
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Here's hoping. I loved the g2 but this looks fantastic.
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True that! I just hope this isn't locked down like the GS5
They didn't lock down the m8...hopefully they won't lock the g3 down..if they do I'll probably go with the m8.
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What's this lock down?
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True that! I just hope this isn't locked down like the GS5
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It most likely will be lock down. The loki exploit that was used to root the G2 was patched with android 4.4.
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What's this lock down?
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The bootloader.
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It most likely will be lock down. The loki exploit that was used to root the G2 was patched with android 4.4.
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Being on a ATT One X I'm out of the loop has any exploit been found for 4.4? Or will we be in the same boat as the GS5 guys? How is the M8 doing?
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Being on a ATT One X I'm out of the loop has any exploit been found for 4.4? Or will we be in the same boat as the GS5 guys? How is the M8 doing?
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No exploit has been found for 4.4 so as far as I know, we will be in the same situation that we are in the S5.
HTC is a different story cause they provide a method to unlock the bootloader via HTC dev.
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I'm so hoping AT&T gets the G3 (and hoping even more the bootloader is unlocked).. I have the LG OG Pro, and LOVE it, but ready for something newer.. Would have got the G2, but the lack of a SD card slot turned me away from it.. Just hope we get lucky! :fingers-crossed:
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I'm so hoping AT&T gets the G3 (and hoping even more the bootloader is unlocked).. I have the LG OG Pro, and LOVE it, but ready for something newer.. Would have got the G2, but the lack of a SD card slot turned me away from it.. Just hope we get lucky! :fingers-crossed:
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I love my OG Pro...like looove it, but when ATT offered me an early upgrade (1 year early) on my line, I opted for the S5...not knowing that it was bootloader locked.
Depending on the info released today and when it comes available, I may be returning my GS5 for the G3. Because you know... LG > Samsung in my book. (Even though I had both Note and Note 2)
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I'm so hoping AT&T gets the G3 (and hoping even more the bootloader is unlocked).. I have the LG OG Pro, and LOVE it, but ready for something newer.. Would have got the G2, but the lack of a SD card slot turned me away from it.. Just hope we get lucky! :fingers-crossed:
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G3 is coming to all of the big 4. There's no chance in hell it will come with bootloader unlocked when getting the device through the carrier. If you want an unlocked bootloader, but it from 3rd party reseller or hope for a new exploit.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/lg-g3.html
You guys might be real happy about this, I just read this article, where they did a benchmark with an International version the LG-F400S LG G3 variant which apparently works on AT&T's LTE network. My guess while not only does an International version work on AT&T which is amazing news, but chances are, wouldn't that also mean that the device in theory would also be factory Unlocked?!? :good:
Here's the article.
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I'm so hoping AT&T gets the G3 (and hoping even more the bootloader is unlocked).. I have the LG OG Pro, and LOVE it, but ready for something newer.. Would have got the G2, but the lack of a SD card slot turned me away from it.. Just hope we get lucky! :fingers-crossed:
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You might also consider the G2, spec wise very similar to the S5, but can be rooted easily and custom recovery installed (not T-Mobile) without having to downgrade the OS from Kit Kat first. The first step requires a computer using IOROOT25, which roots the phone, the an app that installs on the phone called Autorec, installs recovery. Easy as pie. I hope the G3 will be just as easy.
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You might also consider the G2, spec wise very similar to the S5, but can be rooted easily and custom recovery installed (not T-Mobile) without having to downgrade the OS from Kit Kat first. The first step requires a computer using IOROOT25, which roots the phone, the an app that installs on the phone called Autorec, installs recovery. Easy as pie. I hope the G3 will be just as easy.
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I looked into getting the G2 before I decided on my Optimus G Pro, but the lack of an SD slot instantly turned me away.. I've rooted many phones and installed more roms and kernels than I can count.. I'm studying development right now trying to get the hang of it so I can develop roms/kernels etc.. Thanks for your input!
I need a new phone bad and the LG G3 has everything I want. Sleek design, Wireless Charging, Removable battery, etc. If ATT locks down the bootloader, I'll be looking elsewhere.
I walked into an ATT store the other day and said I'm looking for a new phone. He said everyone really likes the GS5. I rolled my eyes and said no thanks. He had a puzzled look on his face and then I told him I'm not buying a bootloader locked phone. He just mumbled, "uh ya" and walked away. I walked out.
I was going to wait for the nexus 6 but that is dead now.
Looks like HTC is the only option these days for root and custom roms unless you go Oppo or One Plus One.
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I need a new phone bad and the LG G3 has everything I want. Sleek design, Wireless Charging, Removable battery, etc. If ATT locks down the bootloader, I'll be looking elsewhere.
I walked into an ATT store the other day and said I'm looking for a new phone. He said everyone really likes the GS5. I rolled my eyes and said no thanks. He had a puzzled look on his face and then I told him I'm not buying a bootloader locked phone. He just mumbled, "uh ya" and walked away. I walked out.
I was going to wait for the nexus 6 but that is dead now.
Looks like HTC is the only option these days for root and custom roms unless you go Oppo or One Plus One.
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You can get the international version of all the phones you mentioned and they come with unlocked bootloaders. Look in the XDA forum for those phones (S5) and they probably have custom rom and a root process.....
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You can get the international version of all the phones you mentioned and they come with unlocked bootloaders. Look in the XDA forum for those phones (S5) and they probably have custom rom and a root process.....
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The problem is having to pay full price for the phone. Yes, I know contracts end up being more expensive, but not everyone has about $700 in their pocket to drop on a phone.
I was thinking of picking up one of the Korean version on ebay. How can I know for sure that I will get 4g on AT&T?
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I was thinking of picking up one of the Korean version on ebay. How can I know for sure that I will get 4g on AT&T?
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Check out post #13 of this thread.
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I know its not out yet but most phones are getting rooted before released. On top of that, the korean version is already rooted.
So thats why I ask when you guys think we will have root? Is the verizon version that different from the Korean version (Lock bootloader)?
Just wanted an idea before i pick the phone up next week.
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i'll take the over.
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i'll take the over.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440163&page=9
As of right now, LG has no drivers that support the vzw LG G2 as far as anyone on this forum has found. If we had proper drivers we may be able to root right now using the same method the ATT variant used.
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As of right now, LG has no drivers that support the vzw LG G2 as far as anyone on this forum has found. If we had proper drivers we may be able to root right now using the same method the ATT variant used.
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I don't have the G2 yet. But someone should call LG support for a link to the drivers. Just say your pic isn't reading the MTP or something.
800-243-0000
I will tomorrow morning if nobody else does.
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I called, they sent me to lgforums.com and clicked on drivers and resources and it has the 2.7.1 driver. That is all that's available
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Coming from a GNex, this device is nothing but improvement other than not having an unlocked bootloader and root. If at the minimum they(developers) can not get the Verizon version rooted during my 14 day return period, this device will be going back. Too much BS loaded on this thing, but I do want to love it. Is there a bounty yet for root and unlock??
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Coming from a GNex, this device is nothing but improvement other than not having an unlocked bootloader and root. If at the minimum they(developers) can not get the Verizon version rooted during my 14 day return period, this device will be going back. Too much BS loaded on this thing, but I do want to love it. Is there a bounty yet for root and unlock??
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I also came from a GNex, so same here. Love the new G2 phone, but I am not sure why Verizon always seems to go through the added effort of obfuscating root for power users.
Root is the absolute bare minimum for me. For now, I am in a two week holding pattern... I can't get too attached to the device because if there's no root, the phone is worthless.
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I also came from a GNex, so same here. Love the new G2 phone, but I am not sure why Verizon always seems to go through the added effort of obfuscating root for power users.
Root is the absolute bare minimum for me. For now, I am in a two week holding pattern... I can't get too attached to the device because if there's no root, the phone is worthless.
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Exactly!! Root is bare minimum, unlock will be better.....:good:
Nothing is going to happen on the vzw g2 until usb debugging works properly. As far as it looks right now there is nobody on a vzw g2 that has it actually working. It's able to be checked, but when you plug it in there is no notification in the notification bar that says it's working....and not a single person has been able to get the phone detected by adb.
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Exactly!! Root is bare minimum, unlock will be better.....:good:
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DeaconBoogie said:
I also came from a GNex, so same here. Love the new G2 phone, but I am not sure why Verizon always seems to go through the added effort of obfuscating root for power users.
Root is the absolute bare minimum for me. For now, I am in a two week holding pattern... I can't get too attached to the device because if there's no root, the phone is worthless.
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Nothing is going to happen on the vzw g2 until usb debugging works properly. As far as it looks right now there is nobody on a vzw g2 that has it actually working. It's able to be checked, but when you plug it in there is no notification in the notification bar that says it's working....and not a single person has been able to get the phone detected by adb.
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Agreed just left my Gnex also. I think I will stick it out past the 14 days. VZW doesn't have anything else to offer even close to the G2. The S4 doesn't interest me at all.
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Coming from a GNex, this device is nothing but improvement other than not having an unlocked bootloader and root. If at the minimum they(developers) can not get the Verizon version rooted during my 14 day return period, this device will be going back. Too much BS loaded on this thing, but I do want to love it. Is there a bounty yet for root and unlock??
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I'm in the same boat. on a GNex for 2 years and this is the first device that's coaxed me to switch. If we don't have (at least) root by 2 weeks it's going back and I'm back to the drawing board. I'm okay with waiting on the bootloader but that could also be a risk given the current status for other devices still not being unlocked.
Part of the reason I've stuck with the GNex so long is the custom ROM scene - and specifically Paranoid Android which is fantastic on that device. G2 has me happy so far but getting rid of the VZW turn on/off sounds and animations is the first thing that has to go.
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Agreed just left my Gnex also. I think I will stick it out past the 14 days. VZW doesn't have anything else to offer even close to the G2. The S4 doesn't interest me at all.
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I picked up an s4 for my wife when I got my g2, after using both, g2 is much better imo
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I'm in the same boat. on a GNex for 2 years and this is the first device that's coaxed me to switch. If we don't have (at least) root by 2 weeks it's going back and I'm back to the drawing board. I'm okay with waiting on the bootloader but that could also be a risk given the current status for other devices still not being unlocked.
Part of the reason I've stuck with the GNex so long is the custom ROM scene - and specifically Paranoid Android which is fantastic on that device. G2 has me happy so far but getting rid of the VZW turn on/off sounds and animations is the first thing that has to go.
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We are truly in the same boat like you said. The rom scene is what kept the GNex shortcomings(battery life/radios) in check. You are right about the current rate at which bootloaders are being unlocked. Nexus devices may be the only way to go. Does anyone know LG's history for having devices unlockable( bootloader), dev support, and receiving android updates? My relationship with this phone so far is like that hot girl at the bar who's got it all, but something just doesn't seem right.....
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We are truly in the same boat like you said. The rom scene is what kept the GNex shortcomings(battery life/radios) in check. You are right about the current rate at which bootloaders are being unlocked. Nexus devices may be the only way to go. Does anyone know LG's history for having devices unlockable( bootloader), dev support, and receiving android updates? My relationship with this phone so far is like that hot girl at the bar who's got it all, but something just doesn't seem right.....
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The thing that doesn't seem right is that it's on Verizon (read: mental issues). I really want to nab this thing, but with the way the GS4 was handled, along with the HTC One, I don't know if I can bring myself to do it.
Verizon G2 just got rooted. I believe
Root achieved
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45564780&posted=1#post45564780
To insure our best chances of being able to root, what should we do? I've never rooted anything before so this will be my first time but I hear about alot of problems with Knox and what not. When I pick up my phone, should I not allow them to touch it or watch what they are doing so they can't install anything? What should I disable right when I get home? I'm a noob to this and I searched and didn't see anything,,atleast I don't think so.
They don't install anything on your phone at activation that will affect root capability... it's all in there already when the phone is loaded with verizon's version of touchwiz 4.3 ... don't worry about what you're doing with your phone as far as apps or whatever ... it won't hinder your ability to root if that becomes available to us... just chill and let the developers hack at this thing and see what they come up with... BUT ... don't hold your breath... our bootloader will be locked on verizon... that will make things impossible... dev's will gravitate towards the unlocked versions that are easier/possible to work on... and we will be left behind unless some weird exploit is stumbled upon... learn to love your stock device when you're on verizon... it's less stressfulness
I would not take any updates if they are pushed out immediately after launch.
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Stock phone is wonderful minus a few omissions. For me it's no wifi toggle, continuous home screen and app drawer and ability to not have all apps in the multi window pane. That to me is worth root. Ugh
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Stock phone is wonderful minus a few omissions. For me it's no wifi toggle, continuous home screen and app drawer and ability to not have all apps in the multi window pane. That to me is worth root. Ugh
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I agree ... I can live without custom ROMs/Kernels, but no root would be rough. No Root Explorer, no AdAway, no LMT Launcher would be a rough adjustment. Ugh, and I forgot all about that stupid Verizon WiFi notification nag Oh boy ... Stock is going to be HARD! LOL
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Aren't we all just chomping on the bit! VZ sales person I would like a note 3 to go, full price off-contract, oh be a dear and unlock the bootloader for me thank you.
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LillieBennett said:
Aren't we all just chomping on the bit! VZ sales person I would like a note 3 to go, full price off-contract, oh be a dear and unlock the bootloader for me thank you.
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Maybe I'm naive but do they unlock the bootloader if you buy it full price off-contract?
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Maybe I'm naive but do they unlock the bootloader if you buy it full price off-contract?
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I'm going to ask, capability should exist, same model is unlocked in UK and others. I'm also not going to use it as a phone right off, Wi-Fi only, which might help. If refused I might wait to see if a developer version will show up.
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I'm going to ask, capability should exist, same model is unlocked in UK and others. I'm also not going to use it as a phone right off, Wi-Fi only, which might help. If refused I might wait to see if a developer version will show up.
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Good luck, since when does VZW/Big Red get developer version of phones? I wish they did, the HTC One dev edition would've been great 6 months ago. Only thing on my mind now is 3GB RAM on Note 3.
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Good luck, since when does VZW/Big Red get developer version of phones? I wish they did, the HTC One dev edition would've been great 6 months ago. Only thing on my mind now is 3GB RAM on Note 3.
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It was released for the note 2:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-outs-verizon-galaxy-note-2-developer-edition-product-page One can hope; we're all Google-Gaga over the specs.
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They don't install anything on your phone at activation that will affect root capability... it's all in there already when the phone is loaded with verizon's version of touchwiz 4.3 ... don't worry about what you're doing with your phone as far as apps or whatever ... it won't hinder your ability to root if that becomes available to us... just chill and let the developers hack at this thing and see what they come up with... BUT ... don't hold your breath... our bootloader will be locked on verizon... that will make things impossible... dev's will gravitate towards the unlocked versions that are easier/possible to work on... and we will be left behind unless some weird exploit is stumbled upon... learn to love your stock device when you're on verizon... it's less stressfulness
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When wouldn't we get root with a locked bootloader? And devs on Verizon aren't just going to switch over to another carrier for a phone. Have you checked out some of the crazy stuff they've been able to accomplish on Motorola phones? Or safestrap for the locked bootloader s4? Well be totally fine. I'd be surprised if we didn't have root on launch day.
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I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
Yea it's been a while homie... The creator of it is working on trying to achieve it in our device as well
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I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
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Oh man let's hope for the best. This is all kind of new to me having these issues. Even my One X was a pain in the ass, but not THIS bad with unlocking.
Will safe strap include being able to flash a kernel? That's honestly the #1 reason for an unlocked bootloader for me. I love playing around with cpu and gpu parameters trying to achieve best battery to performance. Plus faux123 has his kernel and coming from it with a nexus 4 I wish I had it on this device.
Safe strap will not allow kernel flashing. Only ROMs. It high-jacks boot up and redirects the device to boot from a secondary partition you create on the internal memory. You will lose space on internal memory to use safestrap. Although the Verizon folks (me included) have been able to overwrite the factory partition to avoid space lose. If you want to flash kernels you need to drop the 700 dollars on development edition of the phone. I can't believe how dead the development thread is for this device I was just looking for some options for a friend of mine who just got his AT&T N3.
I got more jelly beans than jelly belly, on my S3, S4, and both my Notes
Guess I should have stuck with nexus. Oh well ill trade the ability to flash kernels and roms for a removable battery and an sd card and large screen.
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I would be shocked, but thanks. I hope your right because this sucks. I want to run Jedi bad.
tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I have a locked S4 and have been waiting since I got it the wait will be long.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Agreed +1
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Will be a nice xmas gift to have an unlocked bootloader. 3 month mark should be a good gauge as to whether it will ever happen
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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good news...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/105617-safestrap-for-the-n3-vzw-and-att-testing-started/?p=1567258
My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the --- Mod Edit, masked profanity is senseless ---locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?
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My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the F****ing locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?
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Its been 9 months since the s4 was released and no exploit has been found yet besides on MDL and safestrap on mf3 but then again 4.3 just came out very recently and you can root your phone. I'd say turn your phone back in and get a nexus 5. Or you can cough up the extra cash if you want a gs4 and get the Google play edition. But overall I love my s4.
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Return it while you have the chance.
I was lucky to get an MDL S4, but if it was an MF3, I would have returned it in a heartbeat.
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I'm really looking into getting a new phone, too. MF3 blows.
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I'm really looking into getting a new phone, too. MF3 blows.
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Same here.
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Huge let down. I hate bloat ware. This may be my last Samsung phone. I might go back to HTC or check other offerings when the time comes. I miss all the things you could do with a rooted phone running a custom ROM.
I would return it before it's too late.
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My previous phone (Galaxy SkyRocket) was a fantastic phone, but decided to upgrade since I could get the S4 for $99 and the SR was having trouble charging.
I come to find out there will be no rooting/Recovery/ROM because of the F****ing locked bootloader/MF3 Firmware from AT&T. And it doesn't sound like there is a good shot any of this will be cracked.
Very tempted to return the phone and get something else. Should I just hang in there and wait for a reliable root/recovery method or return the phone?
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I got the LG G2 after coming back from a SGS4 and i gotta say, its a huge upgrade. Everything about it is better and there isn't any of this stupid KNOX and dumb Bootloaders
I'd say return it, I'm currently selling my S4, hopefully someone buys it. Never again Samsung.
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I got the LG G2 after coming back from a SGS4 and i gotta say, its a huge upgrade. Everything about it is better and there isn't any of this stupid KNOX and dumb Bootloaders
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I will probably sell my S4 this week because of Knox. Is the LG G2 better than the Nexus 5 ?
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I will probably sell my S4 this week because of Knox. Is the LG G2 better than the Nexus 5 ?
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LG G2 = Nexus 5. Same specs, same processor and everything more or less. Just Nexus 5 is unlocked and will have more support than any other phones usually.
safestrap makes the MF3 tolerable but yeah, not being able to dabble with kitkat really sucks. Since this is my work phone I'll probably just use safestrap with a stripped down stock. At the moment I have graviton which is acceptable but IMHO still has too much bloatware on it.
Anyone have any thoughts about selling it on Ebay?
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I'd say return it, I'm currently selling my S4, hopefully someone buys it. Never again Samsung.
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Yea
davebegue said:
Still love the hardware. The display is awesome. Removable battery, sd card. It is a dream phone. So aggravating that it has been hobbled like it is. Thought I was getting a great deal when I got it on eBay. Coming from s3 I just figured it would be easy to mod. Didn't do my research before buying. Still a great phone but really limited. So I am kind of stuck with it now. Maybe I could resell it and try to get one of those unlocked ones but crap they are expensive. I hope somehow it will get liberated.
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This is what I am leaning towards. Just deal with the crap/bloatware and hope some breakthrough occurs with these boot loaders.
I think Ebay is gonna be too much of a hassle and the handset is really nice, although not being able to tether is SEVERELY annoying.
Thanks to all for the advice.
This thread is depressing to me lol (phone comes in tomorrow....)
G2 has whack design with its buttons and and no sdcard..
Anyway I will probably keep the s4 (hopeful root) till something good comes out (was hoping xperia z1 would come to att) and then give the phone to my mom....
Everybody should call Samsung 1800# tomorrow around same time and complain to unlock BL (or AT&T which ever it is)
Surge and a few other Devs are working their brains out past few weeks (hopefully picking up traction) and get unlock)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
Maybe somebody can help them
Traded my s4 for a HTC one. Don't regret my choice at all.
Down with locked bootloaders!
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Browsing in the Google play I found this app is a bootloader unlocker. I know is no for the att smartphone o Verizon phones, but I'm sure the developers of xda can dig deep inside the app and figure it out which files hack to unlock the bootloader in att phones. Here is the picture of the app.
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Hauwei uses a COMPLETELY different bootloader than Samsung, so I highly doubt this would work, or even be useful for anyone trying to unlock the Samsung bootloaders.
Side-note, get a Canadian one with MG1 and you're fully unlocked right out of the box. =)
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Browsing in the Google play I found this app is a bootloader unlocker. I know is no for the att smartphone o Verizon phones, but I'm sure the developers of xda can dig deep inside the app and figure it out which files hack to unlock the bootloader in att phones. Here is the picture of the app.
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
MattMJB0188 said:
The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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There are people actively working on trying to crack the bootloader, don't know where you've been. Most of the work is happening over on the Verizon S4 forum... it's already been stated that if one is cracked the other should be venerable to the same exploits.
Well you're right about s4 not being flagship much longer. The S5 will be out in Feb. Lol
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NighthawkXL said:
There are people actively working on trying to crack the bootloader, don't know where you've been. Most of the work is happening over on the Verizon S4 forum... it's already been stated that if one is cracked the other should be venerable to the same exploits.
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Do you know if DJBliss is working on it?
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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So do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader once the s5 comes out?
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So do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader once the s5 comes out?
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They said they will only have locked bootloaders from now on. Its absolutely ridiculous! The S2, S3, Note, and Note 2 all were on AT&T with unlocked bootloaders. I want to know why they are cracking down now. They claim locked bootloaders provide a more consistent experience. Guess I didn't realize that my phone works so much better with all the AT&T crapware installed.
The AT&T Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader, which will probably take even more time and effort to hack.
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They said they will only have locked bootloaders from now on. Its absolutely ridiculous! The S2, S3, Note, and Note 2 all were on AT&T with unlocked bootloaders. I want to know why they are cracking down now. They claim locked bootloaders provide a more consistent experience. Guess I didn't realize that my phone works so much better with all the AT&T crapware installed.
The AT&T Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader, which will probably take even more time and effort to hack.
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No I mean on the s4. Do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader on the s4 once the s5 comes out?
No they will not unlock the S4 bootloader before during or after the release of the S5 . The S4 is locked now , I had to get a warranty replacement which came with the new software . To be brutally honest I dont even want the damn phone anymore because of the locked software . Knox trips out and sends me notifications regularly . Of course I cant disable it or even remove it . Personally I think they really borked this phone to hell and back.
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No I mean on the s4. Do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader on the s4 once the s5 comes out?
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I doubt it. But anything can happen. I hope they do. But it was unlocked once and AT&T just patched that right up.
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No they will not unlock the S4 bootloader before during or after the release of the S5 . The S4 is locked now , I had to get a warranty replacement which came with the new software . To be brutally honest I dont even want the damn phone anymore because of the locked software . Knox trips out and sends me notifications regularly . Of course I cant disable it or even remove it . Personally I think they really borked this phone to hell and back.
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They did. In the beginning it was a cool phone because we had development for it. Now we're so limited on what we can do. Rooting it can even be dangerous with some of the new methods.
Its a shame that the S4 is now the iPhone of Androids. All nice and locked down making it near impossible for the user to get the most out of his device.
The s4 bootloader will not be unlocked again. The only hope we have is a loki-que exploit. Jeboo's new patch allows the live booting of unsigned modules but only until the memory is erase (i.e. reboot). I believe I read somewhere from hash code that he is trying to get jeboos patch to work with kexec so it can be used during boot in combination with safestrap to load custom kernals and in turn, allowing the use of aosp roms.
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cyrushehe said:
How long could it be before an implementation of this for the average user on XDA? Days? Weeks? Months?
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Your guess is as good as anyone else's. All I know is that @Hashcode knows about this and is trying to get kexec working using this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578566&page=3
Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.
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I doubt it. But anything can happen. I hope they do. But it was unlocked once and AT&T just patched that right up.
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The bootloader was never and has never been unlocked, and will never be unlocked by ATT, nor will any future ATT phones come with an unlocked bootloader. what youre refering to was loki which was an exploit/workaround that allowed custom kernels, it was not an unlock...but it did get the job done.
All we can do now is hope hashcode can get kexec working with safestrap or some other loki-like exploit
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mg2195 said:
The bootloader was never and has never been unlocked, and will never be unlocked by ATT, nor will any future ATT phones come with an unlocked bootloader. what youre refering to was loki which was an exploit/workaround that allowed custom kernels, it was not an unlock...but it did get the job done.
All we can do now is hope hashcode can get kexec working with safestrap or some other loki-like exploit
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was always under the impression it was unlocked because we were able to run CWM/TWRP.
Highly doubt AT&T will ever unlock the bootloader, but it would be nice if we had an AT&T developer edition of the S4.
More than likely my next phone will be a Nexus device . I went with the S4 due to the SD card slot and removable battery . Also I don't see the nexus line ever going to this configuration but to have an unlocked device that I am able to manipulate the system on it as I should with a device that is mine . I will have to lose in other catagories to gain in others so be it . Just pretty much over this cat and mouse game with carriers / manufacturers dealing with locked unlocked bootloaders and force fed bloatware .
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More than likely my next phone will be a Nexus device . I went with the S4 due to the SD card slot and removable battery . Also I don't see the nexus line ever going to this configuration but to have an unlocked device that I am able to manipulate the system on it as I should with a device that is mine . I will have to lose in other catagories to gain in others so be it . Just pretty much over this cat and mouse game with carriers / manufacturers dealing with locked unlocked bootloaders and force fed bloatware .
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I'm pretty sure my next phone will NOT be ATT. Other than that I'm still pretty open brand-wise
i really like my S4 with my tax refund im just going to get buy an international version of it, and sell my at&t branded one. or trade it for something else like an iphone to play with. Or ill wait and see how the S5 looks.
As was mentioned already, kexec is probably the only feasible solution at this point. The ATT/VZW BL bounties have been 5k+ (I think) for months on end with no reportable progress.
If I stick with Sammy for the S5, it will be the international version since I pay full price anyways. They have a huge dev community and strong user base, something ATT/VZW has ruined
As been stated, there will be no bootloader unlocked for the att s4..what a crock...I have since moved on to the Note3 tmo UNLOCKED device. I still use my S4, frankly, I have no problem using loki on the phone....I have never let any of my phones ever do updates, never seen one upgrade with the OTA...
Sad this happened because I really liked the S4. All my HTC phones are unlocked, S-Off and the whole nine. I had this phone for only 4 days and besides it's beauty, it was a disheartening experience. I think this trumps the Optimus L9's experience of a locked bootloader. Even the Optimus G Pro's bootloader can be unlocked using an app.
I think Sammy wants to be Apple in regards to how Apple has a user experience of being locked. Also with the fake S3s/S4s/Note out there they probably do not want their software cloned.
I will say in the 4 days I had it it prompted me to start a business. I learned how to root and unlock the phone just by switching modems and running regionlockaway.