Hey guys... long time since i posted here. I still have my V20 H910 and i want to upgrade it to Oreo. ATT sim in phone will not show or allow any updates (says up to date) So i been trying to see what would the easiest way to flash H915 (All that ATT bloat gone) while still being able to use LTE? (Phone is now unlocked so i wont be on ATT)
I have been looking at all these guides but i seem to be getting mixed answers...
Can anyone point me down the right path? I saw somewhere that the H915 OREO KDZ is all you need while others say you need to root and patch the modem... So confused...
Appreciate it!
The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
Jogg3r said:
The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
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Thanks for the post - I was wondering, what would you say were the main benefits of moving up to Oreo? Up until I bought a few Li-Po batteries I figured I might as well give it a go as the battery life was SHOCKING anyway and I'd most likely end up selling the phone so I had nothing to lose, but now I've gone from 2-3.5 hrs SOT to 5.5-7.5 hrs and I'm really happy with the phone.
Like you I'm generally reluctant to upgrade phones as there do tend to be bugs that crop up and battery life can take a hit which, for me, negates the minimal gains I'd receive with the features of the new OS (in this case, the option for some camera mods in GCAM).
I've also started using a couple of App-only bank accounts so leaving my phone rooted isn't an option (I use them for travelling so I don't get charged for international exchange rates etc).
woldranger said:
Thanks for the post - I was wondering, what would you say were the main benefits of moving up to Oreo? Up until I bought a few Li-Po batteries I figured I might as well give it a go as the battery life was SHOCKING anyway and I'd most likely end up selling the phone so I had nothing to lose, but now I've gone from 2-3.5 hrs SOT to 5.5-7.5 hrs and I'm really happy with the phone.
Like you I'm generally reluctant to upgrade phones as there do tend to be bugs that crop up and battery life can take a hit which, for me, negates the minimal gains I'd receive with the features of the new OS (in this case, the option for some camera mods in GCAM).
I've also started using a couple of App-only bank accounts so leaving my phone rooted isn't an option (I use them for travelling so I don't get charged for international exchange rates etc).
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Oreo is speedier and supports LDAC. Actually that's it. At least for me. . GCam is also working with nougat btw.
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Oreo is speedier and supports LDAC. Actually that's it. At least for me. . GCam is also working with nougat btw.
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Speedier? Is it noticeable in general use?
I just looked up LDAC - I tend to go for quantity over quality when it comes to listening to music on the move (I travel for 4-8 months a year so I try and download as much as I can to my device to negate the impact of poor wifi).
Yes, I have GCam on mine but it's the later stuff, the "night sight" that I'm interested in and it seems that only works on Oreo
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Speedier? Is it noticeable in general use?
I just looked up LDAC - I tend to go for quantity over quality when it comes to listening to music on the move (I travel for 4-8 months a year so I try and download as much as I can to my device to negate the impact of poor wifi).
Yes, I have GCam on mine but it's the later stuff, the "night sight" that I'm interested in and it seems that only works on Oreo
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Night sight is not good on the LG V20 oreo. My phone starts to lag and colors are not realistic. No generally you won't feel the difference. So if you are afraid of rooting it bc you are not a big tech guy. Just leave it and use nougat
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Night sight is not good on the LG V20 oreo. My phone starts to lag and colors are not realistic. No generally you won't feel the difference. So if you are afraid of rooting it bc you are not a big tech guy. Just leave it and use nougat
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Ah right, so night sight isn't working very well for you? Combine that with the speed increase not being overly dramatic and I think my decision is made - thanks for your input, much appreciated.
But no, it's not because "I'm not a big tech guy" - I've been using xda for years - my first smart phone was a used HTC HD2 that I switched from window to Android and then had it running natively from the sd card I've had 3 Samsung's that have all had a decent level of work done on them, the reason I'm reluctant to root the V20 is as I mentioned, I don't want to risk the banking apps being screwed up or the battery life taking a hit .
For once I might just resist the urge to tinker to possibly make a phone that works well, work a little better and then running into all kinds of annoying issues!:laugh:
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Ah right, so night sight isn't working very well for you? Combine that with the speed increase not being overly dramatic and I think my decision is made - thanks for your input, much appreciated.
But no, it's not because "I'm not a big tech guy" - I've been using xda for years - my first smart phone was a used HTC HD2 that I switched from window to Android and then had it running natively from the sd card I've had 3 Samsung's that have all had a decent level of work done on them, the reason I'm reluctant to root the V20 is as I mentioned, I don't want to risk the banking apps being screwed up or the battery life taking a hit .
For once I might just resist the urge to tinker to possibly make a phone that works well, work a little better and then running into all kinds of annoying issues!:laugh:
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But like I said in my first post. If you install the official oreo att zip with twrp, the root will be undone and the Bootloader will be locked again! So banking apps should work again! My oreo is absolutely stock now.
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But like I said in my first post. If you install the official oreo att zip with twrp, the root will be undone and the Bootloader will be locked again! So banking apps should work again! My oreo is absolutely stock now.
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Yes, I understood that, but there really isn't any reason for me to do that and upset how the V20 is working at the moment - I've NEVER had a process involving rooting a device go without a hitch (I must be super unlucky!) so I'll just leave well alone. If I had a second device I'd most definitely give it a go.
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The only way is to install the 915 kdz with lgup and then root the phone with dirty Santa method. (install twrp, somewhere here in the forum) then you can flash the AT&T oreo.zip (also here in the forum somewhere) with twrp. You have to go with these two steps because there is no official oreo kdz provided by AT&T. Then your phone is absolutely 100% stock h910 oreo with no root and no failure message while booting . That the only way I know. I also did it. Goodluck mate! It's worth it. My LG V20 is the only phone I would say it was absolutely Worth it to upgrade to a newer android OS. I usually dont install updates on smartphones. My s9+ for example is still running with oreo thank God.
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Hi, im thinking of doing this on my v20 that currently has LOS16 on it but the camera is not working and the battery life is horrendous. can you tell me if the hotspot works using this method, thats the main reason i changed from stock.
This is rather extreme to get a phone updated. If you are in the US, you just have to borrow or order an AT&T SIM to get your phone updated. This might even work outside US, but I don't know.
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When I got my first phone (DROID RAZR M) I didn't even know what root was. After a year and my warranty's term, I found out and unlocked the bootloader just for fun. When I got my Verizon Note 4, I found out about KNOX and its hardware flag that can't be reversed. I had to wait 1.5 years for root on that anyway, but I'm keeping my Samsung tablet stock for the first year because of that flag.
My question: does LG have anything like Samsung KNOX? If I root right now, will I not just be able to flash back to stock and keep my warranty if needed? Or is LG nicer to power users?
Since I lose all data with a bootloader unlock, I'd rather do it sooner than later, but if I permanently trip some flag by doing so, I'd rather wait the year.
I've moved to T-Mobile, so I have the H918. I know I can root and I've seen the guide, but I don't know if I should root.
Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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It's actually really exciting to see all the development for this phone so far. I don't have much basis to judge from, but it's definitely a lot more than my Note.
So there's no hardware switch that'll be tripped? Is root reversible?
I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
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I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
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Well I guess Google does a pretty good job of backing up app data (which I didn't know they even did), so if I have to wipe, it probably won't be too bad.
If no one has heard of an LG KNOX equivalent, that gives me hope that there is none, and I'll be able to revert, which is definitely a plus for LG.
Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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I agree!
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Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Hi Christufurr,
Did you have a chance to unroot your phone ? If yes, please let me how did yiu do that.
Thank you
Hi! I see so many different answers regarding how to return to an older firmware but most of them are for people who are rooted or have custom Roms? I updated to Nougat and encoutered some issues with critical apps I need and now want to return to the stock firmware the phone came with. Do I just download the firmware and run Odin with one of those guides?
Tyvm!
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Hi! I see so many different answers regarding how to return to an older firmware but most of them are for people who are rooted or have custom Roms? I updated to Nougat and encoutered some issues with critical apps I need and now want to return to the stock firmware the phone came with. Do I just download the firmware and run Odin with one of those guides?
Tyvm!
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Hmm, surprised there were no replies to this query. I just unwittingly took the Nougat update today and broke FoxFi.....and have found the same basic thing...that there are lots of instructions out there for downgrading, but none seem to specifically refer to non-rooted VZW users.
I downloaded API3 6.0.1 firmware but ODIN fails when trying to flash.
Am I just stuck on Nougat? If so, time to sell this piece of junk!
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Hmm, surprised there were no replies to this query. I just unwittingly took the Nougat update today and broke FoxFi.....and have found the same basic thing...that there are lots of instructions out there for downgrading, but none seem to specifically refer to non-rooted VZW users.
I downloaded API3 6.0.1 firmware but ODIN fails when trying to flash.
Am I just stuck on Nougat? If so, time to sell this piece of junk!
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Why not use the debloat rom and native tethering? More than one way to skin a cat.
Well that doesn't really answer the question, but I did the root thing a few months ago and it was way too much of a performance and battery hit to stick with.
Trust me, if I could root, debloat, and have close to the same performance, I'd jump back on the train. This is the first android phone I've ever had that I used without root... Dating back to the HTC Hero! I hate Verizon and Samsung for locking this thing down... And believe this will be my last Samsung phone.
But for now, I need to know if, how to get back to MM
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Well that doesn't really answer the question, but I did the root thing a few months ago and it was way too much of a performance and battery hit to stick with.
Trust me, if I could root, debloat, and have close to the same performance, I'd jump back on the train. This is the first android phone I've ever had that I used without root... Dating back to the HTC Hero! I hate Verizon and Samsung for locking this thing down... And believe this will be my last Samsung phone.
But for now, I need to know if, how to get back to MM
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The Hybrid ROM is not-rooted. You get the performance of the stock kernel with a very well debloated system. It also has the hotspot fix implemented. The ROM even passes SafetyNet. I haven't downgraded to MM from Nougat, so I can't give any insight on that part.
Okay then... That's very interesting.... I haven't kept up with XDA since I gave up on root.... I know nothing about this hybrid rom option but will definitely be reading into this!
Thanks
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Okay then... That's very interesting.... I haven't kept up with XDA since I gave up on root.... I know nothing about this hybrid rom option but will definitely be reading into this!
Thanks
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/development/rom-t3576124/page13
I have it running on two phones and have no gripes.
I too updated to Nougat, and I'm not happy with it at all. The calendar app, dialer/contacts app, and notification shade are all worse IMO. I'm really interested in going back to stock Marshmallow. Can I use the Hybrid ROM to do that? IS there any way to go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow, but also NOT get the OTA update reminder in the notification shade?
Thanks for any insight/help on this!
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I too updated to Nougat, and I'm not happy with it at all. The calendar app, dialer/contacts app, and notification shade are all worse IMO. I'm really interested in going back to stock Marshmallow. Can I use the Hybrid ROM to do that? IS there any way to go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow, but also NOT get the OTA update reminder in the notification shade?
Thanks for any insight/help on this!
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The hybrid rom is just 7.0 debloated for vzw and tmo, but working on all us s7 flay/edge variants. The only way back would be odin if Samsung didn't lock the bootloader to not allow a downgrade
So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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The unlocked ones aren't bootloader unlocked, just carrier unlocked. So, when they get the N update, they will also most likely not be able to downgrade. I would suggest the hybrid and staying with the demon you have than to worry about root and associated apps, but to each their own. There are free themes that can help with things and apps galore to customize most of the phone.
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So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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Check the theme app. There are dark themes there thay help out a lot.
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well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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Does this change the colors of the notification shade and such? I don't use any stock launchers, icons, etc....I use Nova Launcher
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Okay so I went ahead and looked into it a little further....perhaps I will find one that gives me what I want.....a little skeptical of custom themes in general....boy how I miss the simplistic Holo days!
Thanks guys for the input! I'll consider the hybrid rom. It might be what I do. Can the hybrid rom have the contacts app and calendar app from the stock marshmallow rom? If I had those I could probably live with the rest.
Just thought I'd update people who come here looking to do the same thing. You CAN use ODIN to reinstall the stock 6.0.1 image even after you've updated to Nougat. You have to turn on the hidden "developer options" in the S7's settings first, but after that it works perfectly. Then you just need to disable the packages that download/notify you about the OTA update.
Thanks goes to CVertigo1, and everyone else here, for helping me out with this! So happy to be back on Marshmallow! Maybe in a few months they'll change the apps/UI back and I'll try Nougat again. One can hope!
OK, here's the latest. I rolled back to 6.0.1 just fine, but unfortunately I believe Samsung locked the system with the late September update. That means I can't use ADB or Package Disabler Pro to hide/block/disable the OTA update packages. So, I can't disable the packages that stop the OTA update unless I rollback to a ROM before they locked the system. Unfortunately again, the baseband is different for the older updates, so I can't rollback that far.
So, now I have Marshmallow back, but I have the annoying notification update that won't go away too. Still looking for a way around it without root. If anyone has any ideas please let me know!
"Thanks Samsung for locking our phones!" -said no one ever
Alright... last update I think. I found a different app that gets the job done. It's called BK Package Disabler. After you install it you can do a search for "sdm". Disable both of those packages, and the OTA notification goes away, and it doesn't look for any new ones either.
Still on 6.0, but daily SYSTEM UPDATE to 7.0 occurring. Can I shut them off to keep 6.0 for a few more months?
S7 on Verizon
Yeah, if you download BK Disabler from the app store you can stop the notification about the update. Just search for "sdm" in the app. Two packages should pop up. If you disable both of them you should be set.
HOWEVER, I don't know much about this app, so I am not endorsing it. I used it and it worked, but I wasn't able to find a lot of information about it on the forums. So, use at your own risk.
Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?
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Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?
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Just unlock and root, all following the guides. Use TWRP 3.2.1-0.
You can dualboot ROMs as long as the primary ROM is stock MiFavor. It's a little bit more complicated with Oreo ROMs but it's doable. Otherwise just try with titanium backup maybe, people still use that thing
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Hey guys, long story short I've appropriated Axon 7 I originally got for my girl to use since she didn't quite like it, and honestly right now I need to upgrade from my unrootable slug of BB Priv.
As usual, way too many choices when it comes to roms, and the whole Oreo overhang is making it hard to try and narrow it down to just one. I haven't done anything custom for years, so is there a way to back up and restore all the apps and settings to save doing all of that between each new FW flash? That would save a ton of time and help me decide on a rom to start using daily.
That aside, should I pick from the already and well established 7.1.1 roms or try/wait for the 8's? On that note, what's with MiFavor 4.2 vs 5?
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Why not get it up to date as possible and leave it stock?
I decided to keep mine stock, still has a locked bootloader. Today I did an ADB de-bloat. Relented on my "not touching it" stance a tiny bit, lol. It is nice to have excess apps removed though. A factory reset would probably bring it all back anyway.
I started on this because I could tether data from my personal SIM but not my work SIM. ADB allowed me to fix that and then I got carried away
Will still be able to do an official Oreo update this way, if it comes.
RobboW said:
Why not get it up to date as possible and leave it stock?
I decided to keep mine stock, still has a locked bootloader. Today I did an ADB de-bloat. Relented on my "not touching it" stance a tiny bit, lol. It is nice to have excess apps removed though. A factory reset would probably bring it all back anyway.
I started on this because I could tether data from my personal SIM but not my work SIM. ADB allowed me to fix that and then I got carried away
Will still be able to do an official Oreo update this way, if it comes.
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Seeing how ZTE is basically screwed outta US market for/now, I think betas + our devs will be the only way. I wouldn't mind 7.1.1 had it option for camera to be on lock button double-click, but alas. And de-bloat IMO is an absolute must.
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Seeing how ZTE is basically screwed outta US market for/now, I think betas + our devs will be the only way. I wouldn't mind 7.1.1 had it option for camera to be on lock button double-click, but alas. And de-bloat IMO is an absolute must.
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On MiFavor there's a much better thing imo: assign a fingerprint to the camera. Just use a finger that you won't ever confuse while unlocking it normally and you're done
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On MiFavor there's a much better thing imo: assign a fingerprint to the camera. Just use a finger that you won't ever confuse while unlocking it normally and you're done
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So print can open camera + unlock the locker or?
In fingerprint settings you can assign different functions per print.
In fingerprint settings you can assign different functions per print and also set it to take picture. I have a finger set to turn on the torch when it's locked.
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So print can open camera + unlock the locker or?
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Yes ofc
you had no idea about that one did you
Everyone always instantly wants a custom ROM but there's nothing wrong with stock. People just don't give it a go. It is a very well equipped phone once on Nougat. Even if we don't get Oreo I will leave mine on stock ROM unless it lasts well and need to go custom to get security updates etc.
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Everyone always instantly wants a custom ROM but there's nothing wrong with stock. People just don't give it a go. It is a very well equipped phone once on Nougat. Even if we don't get Oreo I will leave mine on stock ROM unless it lasts well and need to go custom to get security updates etc.
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I generally agree, but, there's no camera2, no double click for camera, and even these 2 misc features actually make or break a phone for me. If even Blackberry had the camera shortcut, with its potato of a camera otherwise, I don't see why ZTE decided to take it out entirely. Add a disclaimer and made it a toggleable option, not remove it entirely because of stupid people who put their phones into pockets with screen facing inwards.
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Yes ofc
you had no idea about that one did you
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Well, I personally never lock my phone because it annoys the hell out of me and my phone doesn't leave my side, ever, and on top of that A7 seems to hate my prints, so this is hardly a viable option for me. And, using the print sensor as a shutter, once and only once you're in the camera is pointless for me. double power button brings up the camera on top of whatever else you have going on, lock/screen off or not, to let you take that quick snap and that's exactly what I loved in 6.0.1 and onwards.
I just purchased a LS997 with ZV8 software version.
I am assuming that the 'recowvery' technique that I have seen won't work, and that dirty Santa only works to ZV7.
I read a number of comments on the LAFSPLOIT thread that made me believe that a technique may be available, but that it won't be released till the next version of Android (Oreo) is released for LG V20, or 2020.
I'm actually probably going to be OK with waiting, but, I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
Alternatively, I'm not opposed to returning the phone to the seller, and purchasing one that I know will work with TWRP and Root. What model presents the easiest root? I like the 910 and the 918, as they have FM radio, which would be a cool feature to have.
At any rate, what are your opinions regarding both keeping the ZV8, or returning it and buying a different one, as well as, if I buy one, which should I buy for easiest and stablelest root.
And what are your recommendations for ROMS too? I previously had a LG G3, with FULMICS 8 on it, and really liked that.
Thank you, in advance for bot your time reading this, and possibly for the time you spent answering my query as well!
CHEERS
Kevin
wyldnewbie said:
I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
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I would say it's likely something will be released, but unequivocally? Unless you hear it from @runningnak3d, don't believe it.
If I were you, I would trade your LS997 for a H918 and root using lafsploit.
Good luck!
wyldnewbie said:
I just purchased a LS997 with ZV8 software version.
I am assuming that the 'recowvery' technique that I have seen won't work, and that dirty Santa only works to ZV7.
I read a number of comments on the LAFSPLOIT thread that made me believe that a technique may be available, but that it won't be released till the next version of Android (Oreo) is released for LG V20, or 2020.
I'm actually probably going to be OK with waiting, but, I would like to have somebody state, unequivocally that it WILL be released.
Alternatively, I'm not opposed to returning the phone to the seller, and purchasing one that I know will work with TWRP and Root. What model presents the easiest root? I like the 910 and the 918, as they have FM radio, which would be a cool feature to have.
At any rate, what are your opinions regarding both keeping the ZV8, or returning it and buying a different one, as well as, if I buy one, which should I buy for easiest and stablelest root.
And what are your recommendations for ROMS too? I previously had a LG G3, with FULMICS 8 on it, and really liked that.
Thank you, in advance for bot your time reading this, and possibly for the time you spent answering my query as well!
CHEERS
Kevin
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Or buy a Samsung, updates and support from LG sucks
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Well. I think you've got the right idea,,,
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Are there any versions or builds to avoid? That would make root access harder, I meAn.
Thank you very much for your input and time.
Kevin
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I had to go off the grid for a while due to a family emergency. Because of that emergency, I realized just how MUCH I used the ability to swap batteries. I refuse to buy a phone that is sealed.
The V20 is a little dated, but it is plenty speedy for what I do (if I want to game, I will buy a freaking 3DS or a Switch).
Now I am getting to the point. I have an H918, and as long as I have an H918, it will be rootable. Take that however you want
-- Brian
You are (without a doubt) THE MAN!
runningnak3d said:
I had to go off the grid for a while due to a family emergency. Because of that emergency, I realized just how MUCH I used the ability to swap batteries. I refuse to buy a phone that is sealed.
The V20 is a little dated, but it is plenty speedy for what I do (if I want to game, I will buy a freaking 3DS or a Switch).
Now I am getting to the point. I have an H918, and as long as I have an H918, it will be rootable. Take that however you want
-- Brian
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Brian,
I ended up returning the LS997 I had, because even though it was GSM unlockeÄ, I couldn't get MMS via SMS to work. It seemed like the MMS settings weren't being modified when I set up my APN for Virgin Mobile Canada. I am now hunting ebay for a H918.
I have been following your various threads here on XDA, and have to say that I appreciate the way you think through these things.
Also, I hope that your family emergency has resolved well.
Are the any specific 918s that I should avoid (ie: android or lg software updates, ARBs, etc...)
Thank you again.
Kevin
Well, I can't deny good advice when it's given !
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I would say it's likely something will be released, but unequivocally? Unless you hear it from @runningnak3d, don't believe it.
If I were you, I would trade your LS997 for a H918 and root using lafsploit.
Good luck!
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As it happened, the LS997 wasn't sending MMS via SMS, and seemed to not let me update the MMS section of the APN settings. So I've sent it back. Am looking for a nice H918 right now.
So... thank you for your good advice!
Kevin
Yea, it makes no difference what software is on the H918.
The LS997 should be avoided like the plague. It will be rootable, but it will probably never be worth a damn. Sprint had LG flip additional switches in that models CPU (qfuses), so hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted. For example, cellular bands being disabled at the hardware level.
When the 700Mhz auction took place, Google was able to get some provisions into the agreement for that spectrum where carriers had to allow other devices on their network, and had to allow for unlocking. However, if the phone doesn't have the hardware needed to work on other carriers, well, then it is moot.
Sprint is taking advantage of that, and making sure their models only work on their network. They need to keep as many customers as they can.
-- Brian
Hi Brian,
I have an unlocked LSS97, I'm not sure how they unlocked it as I bought it from a mobile seller.
But unfortunately, I updated the software from ZV6 or ZV7 to ZVA (ARB=1) , and now I'm stuck with it. I'm still waiting for magical happens on my device, so that I can root it and flash a customer kernel and rom, since the stock rom is messy for me. It's very laggy even when I play game on low graphic setting (PUBG is an example), while other phone with lower GPU can play it smoothly.
But you said that "hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted", does it mean that even I root the phone and install another kernel, issue related to GPU/ CPU is still there? And how about the network?
As of now, I can't find any other phone has the reasonable price than LG V20 (for Camera quality, dual screen and speaker).
Thank you!
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Hi Brain,
I have an unlocked LSS97, I'm not sure how they unlocked it as I bought it from a mobile seller.
But unfortunately, I updated the software from ZV6 or ZV7 to ZVA (ARB=1) , and now I'm stuck with it. I'm still waiting for magical happens on my device, so that I can root it and flash a customer kernel and rom, since the stock rom is messy for me. It's very laggy even when I play game on low graphic setting (PUBG is an example), while other phone with lower GPU can play it smoothly.
But you said that "hardware wise it is different enough that it just isn't fixable even when rooted", does it mean that even I root the phone and install another kernel, issue related to GPU/ CPU is still there? And how about the network?
As of now, I can't find any other phone has the reasonable price than LG V20 (for Camera quality, dual screen and speaker).
Thank you!
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If you follow his other threads you'd know he's been working on a root solution for the 997 so be patient otherwise if you want be risky he has a thread here seeking volunteers to test just know you due risk a possible brick. Your issues won't be solved just by rooting, those issues are typically kernel, hardware, and rom related.
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I am talking about using it as a phone on any carrier besides Sprint. Yes, once rooted, you can turn it into a fine tablet -- it is phone calls that I was referring to.
If it works fine for you now making phone calls, then it will continue to do so. The lag can be fixed.
-- Brian
cnjax said:
If you follow his other threads you'd know he's been working on a root solution for the 997 so be patient otherwise if you want be risky he has a thread here seeking volunteers to test just know you due risk a possible brick. Your issues won't be solved just by rooting, those issues are typically kernel, hardware, and rom related.
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I have been following the LAF exploit thread for a long time, and very happy to see that he have come back and opened another LS997 rooting thread. But you know, my concern is about performance of the phone; will be improved with another kernel / rom or not.
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I am talking about using it as a phone on any carrier besides Sprint. Yes, once rooted, you can turn it into a fine tablet -- it is phone calls that I was referring to.
If it works fine for you now making phone calls, then it will continue to do so. The lag can be fixed.
-- Brian
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Thank you Brian for this good news ^_^
I did, and I did,and your advice was very correct. I like my H918 more than the LS997.....
I'm a happier guy for having followed your advice.....
Sorry... I was responding to the person who told me to get a 918
Purchased a refurb S7 on eBay on the premise that it'd likely be on old firmware like most refurbs and I'd be able to root easy peasy- turns out it's running android 8.0.0 and baseband G930PVPSACSF1 and had everything updated last month and promptly wanted to check for even more updates when I started it up.
I've seen a lot of back and forth about which s7's can be rooted but nothing specific to this version as for some inexplicable version it appears Sprint released this update just recently for a three year old device.
I've spent most of this evening searching and haven't found anything that seems to indicate one way or the other. If I've missed something super obvious, I'd be grateful if somebody could point me in the direction of whatever reading I need to do to figure this out.
Thanks for any info you can point me to!
EDIT: One other thought- I've been looking into whether Magisk is a possible solution but I've seen a lot of different info as to whether it would even work on this variant of the phone, especially since TWRP seems to only have recoveries available for the international variants. Am I wasting time looking that way? I've also posted on the Magisk discussion thread to ask about it but I thought it was worth checking this forum as well since it's specifically for this phone.
Same issue
Have the same issue and can't find a root method for this phone too. Would like to remove the Sprint bloatware
Any news about it guys? I have the same phone and would like to root it. Willing to be the test dummy if it helps
ekco06 said:
Any news about it guys? I have the same phone and would like to root it. Willing to be the test dummy if it helps
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No and I wouldn't hold by breath either. Rooting has always been iffy on this phone from the start
@CyberSA @ekco06 I haven't seen anything and I'm torn between going ahead and flashing the 930U firmware and just returning the phone and getting something easier to root. The main thing I need is to be able to have unlimited wifi tether which seems to be possible with that firmware, but being able to use Titanium backup would also be really nice as it's been a staple for me so far.
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@[email protected] I haven't seen anything and I'm torn between going ahead and flashing the 930U firmware and just returning the phone and getting something easier to root. The main thing I need is to be able to have unlimited wifi tether which seems to be possible with that firmware, but being able to use Titanium backup would also be really nice as it's been a staple for me so far.
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Check out pdanet. It works well, but requires you to create a proxy to connect, but super easy. Probably won't work on game consoles, but works well on PCs
Quick update: Jumping ship. This phone is being returned and I'm grabbing a google pixel xl - much cheaper, same general age, less bloatware, easier to root, and better camera from all indications.