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Joying Intel Headunit questions

So I am thinking about buying one of these on my next paycheck to replace my current Android Headunit. It has 2GB RAM, Intel Processor, Android 5.1.1 and everything I want except for a full touch interface. The question I have is, will this unit still have the same problem with the internal MIC being too weak for bluetooth calls and also the parrallel MIC issue where if you hook an external MIC up you end up hurting the quality of BOTH MIC's? If so, does this mean I will have to void my warranty and disconnect the INTERNAL microphone by snipping the red and black wire near the solder pads?
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How much faster will these units be versus an A9 Cortex Quad Core with the same RAM and same O.S? Is there any way I can get one with a full touch interface?

What do you mean with full touch interface?
I had a MTCD rk3188 with external mic and it was working very well
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ikerg said:
What do you mean with full touch interface?
I had a MTCD rk3188 with external mic and it was working very well
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Hello, thanks for replying to me.
The full touch interface meaning no knobs or buttons, all of it is touch screen, like this unit here:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
The buttons are on a touch panel which is apart of the fascia.
With your external mic, to get it to work did you have to disconnect the internal mic?
Also do you believe this unit will outperform the newer Ownice C500 with Android 6, especially the 8 core units?

Need4Camaro said:
Hello, thanks for replying to me.
The full touch interface meaning no knobs or buttons, all of it is touch screen, like this unit here:
The buttons are on a touch panel which is apart of the fascia.
With your external mic, to get it to work did you have to disconnect the internal mic?
Also do you believe this unit will outperform the newer Ownice C500 with Android 6, especially the 8 core units?
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Thats the one i am returning back to seller (rk3188 1gb ram broken display) to receive the same but on Intel CPU and 2gb ram.
I never had any problem with mic.
My seller is Hotaudio (Aliexpress)
My impressions are these:
Don't get only with hardware specs.... Overall in terms of Chinese products...
That unit seems to have good hardware.... But what about the support?
Few brands give you the expected support.... But MTCD headunits have a good users support here in forums that sellers can't give.
When I decided what Android unit to buy I selected MTCD due to the good support on forums.
MTCD units are sold by a lot of resellers and "manufactured" by several manufacturers... That gives you the option for having more users and a lot of answers....
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ikerg said:
Thats the one i am returning back to seller (rk3188 1gb ram broken display) to receive the same but on Intel CPU and 2gb ram.
I never had any problem with mic.
My seller is Hotaudio (Aliexpress)
My impressions are these:
Don't get only with hardware specs.... Overall in terms of Chinese products...
That unit seems to have good hardware.... But what about the support?
Few brands give you the expected support.... But MTCD headunits have a good users support here in forums that sellers can't give.
When I decided what Android unit to buy I selected MTCD due to the good support on forums.
MTCD units are sold by a lot of resellers and "manufactured" by several manufacturers... That gives you the option for having more users and a lot of answers....
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What is an MTCD unit? and how will I know which units are MTCD and which ones are not? The unit you're purchasing now, is it MTCD? I am very interested in it.

It is mtcd but with Intel sofia 3gr CPU. 2gb ram.
Joying sells mtcd units as well.
Previous version was MTCB (Android 4.4 1gb) mtcc was a patch of MTCB and mtcd was new hardware (mcu) and Android 5.1.1 based in rockchip rk3188 (still 1gb).
Now, using the same mcu platform they arw moving to Intel 3230rk soc and 2gb ram...I don't know why they still are labelling as mtcd ....
Mtcd appears under "device information" menu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3468322
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i dont think anyone has received a Joying Intel unit, they should be shipping soon, Amazon store says November.

ikerg said:
It is mtcd but with Intel sofia 3gr CPU. 2gb ram.
Joying sells mtcd units as well.
Previous version was MTCB (Android 4.4 1gb) mtcc was a patch of MTCB and mtcd was new hardware (mcu) and Android 5.1.1 based in rockchip rk3188 (still 1gb).
Now, using the same mcu platform they arw moving to Intel 3230rk soc and 2gb ram...I don't know why they still are labelling as mtcd ....
Mtcd appears under "device information" menu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3468322
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Do you happen to have a link to the Intel unit that Hotaudio is selling? I reached out to them and they told me that they did not have any units such as this. Is there anything I need to mention specifically?

Perhaps the people thta sells the units don't know about them.
They are being tested. Joying started to sell them and people has been received the first ones in their homea
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i am getting my Joying 2GB today

CadillacMike said:
i am getting my Joying 2GB today
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Have you installed it yet? If so, whats the initial review? Just ordered mine today.

Hopefully installing it today

I got mine and installed it, posted a new threat about it as i didn't see this one.

CadillacMike said:
Hopefully installing it today
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AeonSaber said:
I got mine and installed it, posted a new threat about it as i didn't see this one.
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Where did you guys order your units from? Amazon or directly from Joying? I would rather order through amazon for the better customer service but if they aren't shipping until the end of nov/beginning of dec I would order through Joying to receive it sooner.

Photos of inside Joying 2G 32G Universal 2DIN
Photos of inside Joying 2G 32G Universal 2DIN

Projekt_S13 said:
Where did you guys order your units from? Amazon or directly from Joying? I would rather order through amazon for the better customer service but if they aren't shipping until the end of nov/beginning of dec I would order through Joying to receive it sooner.
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I got mine from Joying

StingerRUS said:
Photos of inside Joying 2G 32G Universal 2DIN
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Wow, there's really not much inside there at all.
I can see that a lot more is integrated into the SoC board.
Interesting that the motherboard filename marking has PX3 in it.
Makes it more likely these are an evolution of the Rockchip motherboard design and not a totally new one.

CadillacMike said:
I got mine from Joying
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Thanks for the response, did you choose free shipping or pay the 30 dollar flat rate? And how long did it take from ordering to arriving at your doorstep from china to the states? I plan on ordering a unit tonight.

Projekt_S13 said:
Thanks for the response, did you choose free shipping or pay the 30 dollar flat rate? And how long did it take from ordering to arriving at your doorstep from china to the states? I plan on ordering a unit tonight.
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Joying actually sent it to me to test. It took less than a week

Joying JY-UL135N2 Universal 2DIN 2G RAM 32G Memory units with Intel Sofia3g
Ok, I was told that new Joying JY-UL135N2 Universal 2DIN 2G RAM 32G Memory units with Intel Sofia3g are not MTCD based MCU.
I got following MCU Version: 2016-08-29 15:46:12 JY_(NOR)__90_C9_7706_5009_CAN(GX)_Newlap.
Purchased from here: Joying on Aliexpress
Does dedicated thread exist for this type of units? I see more and more people ordering one...

Most stable and plug'n'play head unit for my basic needs?

Hi guys. I'm looking for an Android head unit thats stable and pretty much plug'n'play.
I dont have alot of demands apart from the above so i'll just list the rest of them and hear if you guys got some suggestions on what to get.
The car i got is a 2008 Seat Leon.
"demands" list:
GPS (Maybe through google maps if possible since i like that gps)
Radio
Being able to hear music through spotify (on the device)
Being able to stream music from phone (through spotify etc)
Radio RDS (if possible?)
So is there anything out there for me?

Sure. Most will do that.
I recommend the newer Joying units with Intel CPU and 2 GB RAM. They're pretty fast.

if you want plug and play, get a unit specific for your vehicle. like @doitright said, the new Joying units are pretty great

You can go to mtcd intel 2gb (not joying). Same processor, same bt and wifi....different mcu but old and stable mcu (used on old mtcd rk3188 chipset based)
They are often cheaper than joying (perhaps less support but full covered by XDA forums)
You have to ensure it is intel and 2gb ram (never go to rk3188 1gb ram because it ia laggy and slow)
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ikerg said:
You can go to mtcd intel 2gb (not joying). Same processor, same bt and wifi....different mcu but old and stable mcu (used on old mtcd rk3188 chipset based)
They are often cheaper than joying (perhaps less support but full covered by XDA forums)
You have to ensure it is intel and 2gb ram (never go to rk3188 1gb ram because it ia laggy and slow)
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Do you have a link to these bro?

Which head unit?

I'm getting this Toyota Fielder 2012 (NZE161) [basically the Japanese version of the Corolla wagon] this week. As this is a JDM car, it comes with a sat nav that only does Japan and everything is in Japanese.
I am looking for a cheap android head unit with basic needs -- will support the rear view camera already installed, will support the GPS antenna already there in the wind screen, will support the steering controls, play the radio, music and a few videos from the SD card, be able to update google maps via wifi, blutooth would be nice too.
Since I am in Bangladesh I have no access to Amazon and ebay and headunits in Aliexpress are a bit confusing. I'm not sure which head unit would go into the dash properly.
Any suggestions, pointing directions would be greatly appreciated.

I'm also looking for a new head unit for my Toyota (2012 GT86), I'm pretty much after the same thing as you, it should be fast and will play spotify most of the time, also an SIM will be fitted. I'm debating between the latest Joying with Intel Sofia chipset or the Ownice C500 Quad or even octa core. They all seem to be a very solid buy. The ownice comes in a Toyota special version which seems to be really plug and play and does not require any additional cables. I do think you have to fit the GPS receiver of the new head unit though. The camera could be compatible if it has a RCA or S video plug (mine oem Toyota has s video)

Go to any intel 2gb ram:
× joying units
× mtcd intel units
Look for joying store in aliexpress and look for the best model that could fit your car (or go to universal one) but ensure it is intel 2gb ram
Well supported in xda forums and they can be used for all you want.
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ikerg said:
Go to any intel 2gb ram:
× joying units
× mtcd intel units
Look for joying store in aliexpress and look for the best model that could fit your car (or go to universal one) but ensure it is intel 2gb ram
Well supported in xda forums and they can be used for all you want.
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The Joying ones in aliexpress are either too big to fit my car or have 1GB of RAM. What sort of problems will I face if have to go for a 1GB ram head unit?

ROBINGAZI said:
The Joying ones in aliexpress are either too big to fit my car or have 1GB of RAM. What sort of problems will I face if have to go for a 1GB ram head unit?
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I do not recommend 1gb ram
Joying has both 1din and 2din Intel 2gb
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This is the unit I finally went for. Now fingers crossed.

ROBINGAZI said:
This is the unit I finally went for. Now fingers crossed.
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You will not regret
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ikerg said:
I do not recommend 1gb ram
Joying has both 1din and 2din Intel 2gb
The 2din intel 2gb with 5.1 its MTCD unit ?
Thanks for your attention
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Wait a bit the MTCD PX5s are probably the way to go. Right now you can only get the Universal, but soon they'll have them for more cars. Just give it another month.

volsmart 5.1.1 gps update

hey guys im new here i just buy this stereo
Volsmart Android 5.1.1 Lollipop Car DVD Player in Dash Touch Screen with Navigation Car Stereo Bluetooth Double Din Head Unit RK3188 Quad Core Cortex A9 1.6Ghz 16GB internal Memory support Airplay
and i cant update the gps maps,i can find the brand, anyone here have the same problem ?

gtannos said:
hey guys im new here i just buy this stereo
Volsmart Android 5.1.1 Lollipop Car DVD Player in Dash Touch Screen with Navigation Car Stereo Bluetooth Double Din Head Unit RK3188 Quad Core Cortex A9 1.6Ghz 16GB internal Memory support Airplay
and i cant update the gps maps,i can find the brand, anyone here have the same problem ?
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I suppose you have to buy the app in order to get the mapa
Chinise people should give you a pirated copy of any app....
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ikerg said:
I suppose you have to buy the app in order to get the mapa
Chinise people should give you a pirated copy of any app....
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i have the igo primo in the sd card but whe i try to update it ask me what stereo i have and beliveme i cant find that lol

Ownice C500 octa core VS Joying 2GB

Hey all,
I am in the market for a new android head unit for my car (07' Civic Type R EU). I already purchased the Connects2 kit for fascia and to retain SWC control. I have read a lot of threads in this forum and as far as I understood all of the Chinese android units are almost the same except with different bugs and caveats. Currently I'm choosing between 7" universal 2GB Intel based from Joying (DE-JY-UM124 model) and Ownice C500 (DGS7002G?) with octa core (PX5?). Both of them are around the same price but even after reading through a lot of topics there is still not correct choice. A plus for PX5 would be the custom Malaysk's ROMs which provide quite a lot of fixes/additions to the unit.
I would mainly use the head unit for radio/BT audio/Spotify/etc, aftermarket rear camera and maybe DVR (I heard Ownice C500 has problems with turning on the rear view camera when in reverse?), GPS navigation. Would also try out ODBII capabilities and other options that the head unit would provide.
Which would be the best option (maybe something else would be better? I heard Malaysk bought from Dasaita, but they do not ship to Lithuania)?
Also, any suggestions before doing the purchase/installation? I bought a pack of small aluminium heatsink radiators as I was reading that Joying unit had some problems with dissipating heat, is the internal layout for PX5 Ownice C500 much different? Or does the unit not suffer from high temperatures and throttling?
Thank you in advance.

gesa26 said:
Hey all,
I am in the market for a new android head unit for my car (07' Civic Type R EU). I already purchased the Connects2 kit for fascia and to retain SWC control. I have read a lot of threads in this forum and as far as I understood all of the Chinese android units are almost the same except with different bugs and caveats. Currently I'm choosing between 7" universal 2GB Intel based from Joying (DE-JY-UM124 model) and Ownice C500 (DGS7002G?) with octa core (PX5?). Both of them are around the same price but even after reading through a lot of topics there is still not correct choice. A plus for PX5 would be the custom Malaysk's ROMs which provide quite a lot of fixes/additions to the unit.
I would mainly use the head unit for radio/BT audio/Spotify/etc, aftermarket rear camera and maybe DVR (I heard Ownice C500 has problems with turning on the rear view camera when in reverse?), GPS navigation. Would also try out ODBII capabilities and other options that the head unit would provide.
Which would be the best option (maybe something else would be better? I heard Malaysk bought from Dasaita, but they do not ship to Lithuania)?
Also, any suggestions before doing the purchase/installation? I bought a pack of small aluminium heatsink radiators as I was reading that Joying unit had some problems with dissipating heat, is the internal layout for PX5 Ownice C500 much different? Or does the unit not suffer from high temperatures and throttling?
Thank you in advance.
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Be careful. Ownice 500 is NOT px5.
Ownice is Allwinner octacore processor while px5 is rockchip.
Ownice community support is very low compared with mtcd units (px5 is mtcd based - mtcd is the mcu type)
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ikerg said:
Be careful. Ownice 500 is NOT px5.
Ownice is Allwinner octacore processor while px5 is rockchip.
Ownice community support is very low compared with mtcd units (px5 is mtcd based - mtcd is the mcu type)
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Ownice uses Mediatek a MT3561 (quad core) and MT3562 (octa core), no alwinner

What would be the best PX5 head unit then? At a similar price - around 300EU. 7inch, universal, preferably with physical buttons

gesa26 said:
What would be the best PX5 head unit then? At a similar price - around 300EU. 7inch, universal, preferably with physical buttons
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CHeck this model
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...32789102885.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.HyDcTk

ikerg said:
CHeck this model
htt ps://es.a liexpress.com/store/product/Dasaita-Android-6-0-Auto-Radio-Qcta-Core-7-Inch-2-DIN-Universal-Car-NO-DVD/600991_32789102885.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.HyDcTk
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As I mentioned previously - Dasaita doesn't ship to Lithuania :/

gesa26 said:
As I mentioned previously - Dasaita doesn't ship to Lithuania :/
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Sorry...I didnt remember that was you.
Ask to @hotaudio specifically if the shipping to Lithuania could be solved.
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Got my Joying yesterday after I got this advice from a friend: Intel knows how to sleep and will wake-up/boot in 2-3 seconds, which I confirm. Other units will take 30-40 seconds to boot-up. Plus the 3GB RAM. I was very surprised of the quality, especially the display.

Anonymou said:
Got my Joying yesterday after I got this advice from a friend: Intel knows how to sleep and will wake-up/boot in 2-3 seconds, which I confirm. Other units will take 30-40 seconds to boot-up. Plus the 3GB RAM. I was very surprised of the quality, especially the display.
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Is Not 3gb RAM... isn't it?
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ikerg said:
Is Not 3gb RAM... isn't it?
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Ikerg says the truth,
There is no Joying model with 3 Gb of ram and there are no Mediatek processors with the MT3561 and MT3562 characters. Ownice uses processors that are not Mediatek.
Even the MTCD head units with PX5 have a fast 2 second boot and the PX5 is really a fast processor.
Sincerely Ownice C500 is to be discarded, Joying is a good brand but the PX5 is more performing as a processor than Sofia.
At least I checked this out.

apollo1976 said:
Ikerg says the truth,
There is no Joying model with 3 Gb of ram and there are no Mediatek processors with the MT3561 and MT3562 characters. Ownice uses processors that are not Mediatek.
Even the MTCD head units with PX5 have a fast 2 second boot and the PX5 is really a fast processor.
Sincerely Ownice C500 is to be discarded, Joying is a good brand but the PX5 is more performing as a processor than Sofia.
At least I checked this out.
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I do totally agree
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Which Joying units have a PX5? Any universals?
I don't beleive Ownice should be discarded. The New Octacore seems to be working fine in all the right areas, and plenty of speed/capability. Granted only had a few days but I have tested almost every function satisfactorily (except DAB+)
For a car, refuse to have a unit with no volume rotary knob, as I don't have a car with steering wheel controls and I don't like the add ons.

velocity4 said:
Which Joying units have a PX5? Any universals?
I don't beleive Ownice should be discarded. The New Octacore seems to be working fine in all the right areas, and plenty of speed/capability. Granted only had a few days but I have tested almost every function satisfactorily (except DAB+)
For a car, refuse to have a unit with no volume rotary knob, as I don't have a car with steering wheel controls and I don't like the add ons.
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Joying does not manufacture any px5 . They bet for Intel sofia units.
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velocity4 said:
Which Joying units have a PX5? Any universals?
I don't beleive Ownice should be discarded. The New Octacore seems to be working fine in all the right areas, and plenty of speed/capability. Granted only had a few days but I have tested almost every function satisfactorily (except DAB+)
For a car, refuse to have a unit with no volume rotary knob, as I don't have a car with steering wheel controls and I don't like the add ons.
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What about this:
Dasaita Android 6.0 Auto Radio Octa Core 7 Inch 2 DIN Universal Car NO DVD player GPS Stereo Audio Head unit Support DAB DVR OBD
http://s.aliexpress.com/QVvMJzIR
(from AliExpress Android)
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I would buy the Dasaita one, I was in contact with @hotaudio as somehow the aliexpress store doesn't ship to Lithuania. One thing that bites me off is possible customs/VAT which could inflate the price to like 30% more than Joying unit from Germany

As a Joying Intel Sofia user I can only recommend the Joying brand and the Sofia units . Yes the quad core might be a bit low clocked but it's pretty fine for everything, GPS apps, music from various sources, and real time sound processing made by Viper. The onboard 32Gb of storage is more then generous and the 2Gb of RAM are very nice to have. The presence of GLONASS is more then welcome and a good addition for the city's with high buildings for a better GPS accuracy. Joying made the jump from Andoid 5 to 6 and they are working to polish it. There is a good community around the Intel Sofia with plenty of mods.
And the instant power on... oh man... I don't if I can live without it.

Can anyone confirm if the Octo-core C500 units now support RDS functions?

MugenSi said:
Can anyone confirm if the Octo-core C500 units now support RDS functions?
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The octa-core? yes it does, also the rear cam works if the radio is booting up

Flemischguy said:
The octa-core? yes it does, also the rear cam works if the radio is booting up
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All chinese units come with poor RDS support. Almost none of them really properly supports RDS-RT and almost none of them supports RDS-AF in the correct way.
Can you confirm that works correct on the Ownice Octa-core? Because that would really be a premium.

Flemischguy said:
The octa-core? yes it does, also the rear cam works if the radio is booting up
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So the station name automatically displays once a radio station is selected/tuned in??

MugenSi said:
So the station name automatically displays once a radio station is selected/tuned in??
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That is the RDS-PS function. All chinese units do that. It is the rest they lack and especially the incorrectly implemented AF sucks.