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Samsung Galaxy S2 w/ NFC Indian Version Quick Review (UPDATE: No NFC [for now])

Hey,
I finally got my SGS2 and its awesome!
https://picasaweb.google.com/tanmay.sonawane/SamsungGalaxyS2
I won't go into reviews and stuffs thats already been reviewed and said over 100 times.
I'll just jot down whatever the Indian version has different from its other brothers.
1. So apparently the Indian version ships with a Samsung Leather Case (as seen in the pic below among other standard accessories) :
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Rm_zEUrNlkE4djMA-JLVBg?feat=directlink
2. The Indian version seems to come pre-installed with the XWKE8 update. Correct me if wrong but afaik XWKE7 is the latest.
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3. The NFC was so far the highlight feature but I'm still not able to find any mention of it anywhere. If our XDA Korean members can help me find out, that'd be great!
A test with an Application called ZDevice Test was unable to detect the presence of a NFC Chip.
4. Contrary to rumors I didn't find any 8Gb SD Card preinstalled.
5. No Music Hub.
I'll post more as and when I find any differences.
If you have any doubts of your own, feel free to ask! I'm prolly gonna be up all night
Cheers!
Edit:
I took a pic of the back. And I guess this is the NFC Sensor? Can anyone confirm this?
http://cl.ly/3Y2R080f3D0k1A392S0Q/NFC_.jpg
Edit 2:
Ok so I'm pretty sure (according to all comments) the Indian version DOES NOT have NFC. Samsung India gave us false dreams and broke our hearts!
Edit 3:
Ok I've done some initial tests with the battery and there are 2 scenarios:
1. (Yesterday) 1am to 10am (on Standby) : AirPlane Mode On : Battery Drain just 4% (from 60% to 56%)
2. (Today) 3am to 10am (on Standby) : Power Save Mode On : Battery Drain 26% (from 30% to 4%)
So inshort the Android System battery bug exists. Here's a screenshot of the battery tool for usage from 1pm June 3 to 10 am June 4 :
Edit 4 :
According to Letsbuy, the official retail partner for selling the SGS2 in India, NFC will be activated in the Future Ice Cream Sandwich update.
Letsbuy said:
Samsung India Update 04-Jun-2011: All the handsets purchased from Letsbuy.com on pre-order shall be equipped with ON board NFC chipset,Which shall be usable after upgrade of OS Android 3.0 honeycomb(Code name Ice Cream Sandwitch).(Future Update)
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Well the credibility of this post is not yet known. Check out the above reply made here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14446675&postcount=2411
Edit 5 :
According to this article. NFC Sensor is embedded onto the body in SGS2 as opposed to the backpanel in Nexus S.
So we still might stand a chance with Indian SGS2's having NFC.
http://www.nfc.cc/archives/588

Do you see the yellow tinge on the left with a gray background and low brightness?
Edit: And congrats on being the first of us here to get the Indian version and making the rest of jealous

Yes there is a slight yellow tint when you check it with this page : http://fiddle.jshell.net/qFxsC/1/show/
Looks like this is a global issue and every SGS2 produced so far will have it.
But let me add that this is in no way a major issue.
With normal phone usage I bet it's impossible (if at all) to notice.
I assure you, any normal user, if not told about this yellow tint will not even come to know. Its that unnoticeable!

Thanks for the confirmation.
Was hoping against hope that they'd have fixed it in later production batches, however doesn't look like it.
Enjoy the phone!

Tanmay® said:
Yes there is a slight yellow tint when you check it with this page : http://fiddle.jshell.net/qFxsC/1/show/
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But let me add that this is in no way a major issue.
With normal phone usage I bet it's impossible (if at all) to notice.
I assure you, any normal user, if not told about this yellow tint will not even come to know. Its that unnoticeable!
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Yeah, I agree, looks like it's very minor in most of the cases reported here.
Hope you don't have any of the other possible defects being mentioned here.

No yellow tint on my mobile
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Yea none as of now.
There's no dead or stuck pixel So I'm bit relieved about that!

JSAHITA said:
No yellow tint on my mobile
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Maybe you're not able to see it(which is a blessing in disguise!).
People here are yet to see a picture of a screen without that issue although the severity seems to vary.

Can u list the bands please.
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Can you post a pic of the back and the back cover?

Do you have the Pink Camera Spot problem?
And I don't think the i9100 will have NFC unfortunately, only the i9101.

Hi Tanmay, Congrats! I want to know how does it feel in the hand - too big, manageable, will get used to? I know this has been done to death, but still would like to know.

Hi tanmay for how much time you charged it
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Hi Tanmay!.. Congrats again
Can you post a pic of the backplate and battery?.. Then I can figure out (I've developed on NFC hardware earlier in my Job) if the NFC Antenna are there. Please do.

I've posted a pic of the back. There's a tiny sensor which looks like the NFC sensor to me.
The back cover however, is all plastic and there's no mark or anything like that on the plastic back.

Tanmay® said:
I've posted a pic of the back. There's a tiny sensor which looks like the NFC sensor to me.
The back cover however, is all plastic and there's no mark or anything like that on the plastic back.
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That's not the NFC sensor

Ohh well. Then I'm afraid the Indian version too doesn't have NFC.

Is not having NFC a big issue? Would those NFC stickers be inferior in any way?
BTW just to confirm, are there any other known differences in the version being sold in India (I9100) and elsewhere(I9101 and I9103 etc)? I am planning to get it here in India.
This thread and other websites seem to suggest NFC chip is the only difference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103256
BTW does anyone here have any feedback on the Indian mobile retail chain Univercell, they seem to have a pretty reasonable price (if along with a crappy website).

Tanmay® said:
Ohh well. Then I'm afraid the Indian version too doesn't have NFC.
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This is how NFC is embedded in Nexus S,
Does your SGS2 posses anything similar on the back cover?
P.S.
To read more about NFC and how it is attached in Nexus S & how it works, heres an article that might help you,
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...ndroid-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays

And, if you can't find this under settings -> Wireless & Network Settings, then we should get register a complaint against Samsung for cheating us,

[Q] Convert Verizon G2?

Hey guys, when I first saw the Verizon edition of our gorgeous phone I nearly cried! Those large tactile and innovative buttons had been replaced with tiny indistinguishable ones, not only that but they also increased the heft it to the point where we now have to have cases specifically designed for the Verizon variant, all this just so Verizon could be "Different" and "Exclusive" Anyway down to my question. Do you guys think theres anyway to retrofit out Verizon phones so that physically, they are the same as the other variants? Rip out the QI charging bits, buttons and case. Then replace with the AT&T Buttons, case ect?
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Here's what it looks like inside. This is the verizon version obviously. I don't know what the other versions look like, but I do remember a pic floating around here.
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Quote from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457672

No. Live with it.
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I would think that you would also need the back inside shell as well because the camera bezel itself is also different. Why do you want change it? Everyone else seems to want the wireless charging.

macace21 said:
I would think that you would also need the back inside shell as well because the camera bezel itself is also different. Why do you want change it? Everyone else seems to want the wireless charging.
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From what I can tell the bezzel around the camera is attached to the same piece as the rear keys. So if I could fine the piece used for att id be set. As to why I dont like the design I feel the same as the author of this review http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...-gets-caught-living-in-the-shadows-of-giants/
"If you're thinking of getting the Verizon version, throw out everything nice I just said about the back. The Verizon variant has a different design that removes the great looking back pattern and buttons, instead using versions that could best be described as "cheaper." The diagonal inlay is gone. It's been replaced with a flat honeycomb pattern that isn't nearly as pronounced, and the sleek looking buttons were swapped out for a tacky sliver plastic. It really looks like Verizon saw the original version and told LG to bring the price down a bit. The result is something that doesn't look nearly as slick as the original." I think the entire point of having buttons on the back is to make them more easily accessible, which is what LG tried to do before verizon F'ed it up.

I guess nobody realizes that they use a smaller footprint for buttons because of the wireless charging coil.
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and have you even used one? it's not a big deal whatsoever. I've never missed hitting a button or hit the wrong one. it's not hard at all.
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jayochs said:
I guess nobody realizes that they use a smaller footprint for buttons because of the wireless charging coil.
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and have you even used one? it's not a big deal whatsoever. I've never missed hitting a button or hit the wrong one. it's not hard at all.
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We understand it, I just dont think its worth it lol. Id rather have a phone the way it was designed and all the other case options that come with it. But seeing how opposed everyone is. I must be overreacting.

I'm sure that people have made that connection. I can see why the OP wants it to be without the wireless charge g and to look the way it was originally designed.

I would have the wirelss charging with those "tiny indistinguishable" buttons if I could!

My guess is by the time you mod the at&t back panels to fit the square camera bezel and ensure the big buttons/notification LED align correctly it would look ugly. I rarely use the rear buttons. When I do I have a LG G2 Ballistic SG Black Case (VERIZON) SG1233-A065 on it, that covers the buttons with rubber buttons that work well for me. I don't touch the camera lens either, and it does not bother me that I covered up the notification light.
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I thought the same about the look of the Verizon variant. From my studies of the differences on the internals, I'm not entirely sure if the addition of the charging coil would cause for a change in thickness enough to prevent a retrofit into the at&t/whoever models. I've been looking and looking, and immensely surprised at how little I can find. Google is not my friend this night haha

LG G3 D858HK Discussions

Hello to everyone !
I created this thread to gather all available informations and discussions about the Dual Sim variant of LG G3.
Please fee free to contribute with any valuable infos.
Thx a lot !

Easyest wat to get root :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/root-stump-root-lg-g3-sprint-verizon-t2850906

D857 858 858HK are same hardware. Expecting lollipop but so hard.
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Just checking in. A D858HK user here.
For anyone else wanting to put a quick circle case for their Dual-LTE G3, please take note that the contact points of the D858HK do not align with the wireless charging contact points of the cover. The wireless charging contact points of the single sim variants are on the upper right part on the back, while the contact points of the dual sim iteration are slightly lower and on the left. Plus, the Quick Circle Case for the simple sim units do not close flush onto the dual sim versions.

The question is when we will get lollipop
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
The question is when we will get lollipop
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I want that too...the phone is way too slow for a quad-core !!

Correct.
You can purchase the 858HK edition's quick circle case, which has different alignments for the NFC, as pictured here:
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kazuni said:
Correct.
You can purchase the 858HK edition's quick circle case, which has different alignments for the NFC, as pictured here:
Can you please provide a link? I've searched everywhere but didn't find one so far!
TIA
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Don't really have a website for it - I bought it at a local mobile store in Hong Kong

Is there any custom rom for D858HK ?

looks like there is a working twrp img for 858hk
Too bad i am not allowed to post link here

Checking in: I just received my 858HK last week.
The device is perfect, its specification along with the dual SIM was so attractive that I couldn't resist upgrading my HTC one m7 to it. Upgrading from the m7 stupid ultra-pixel camera was really huge
After one week of usage I can tell I am happy with my decision.
The only drawback I noticed is that the model we have is also affected by the screen sharpness isssue of other models mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/hilariously-stupid-sharpness-fix-t2874587
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/fix-stock-kernel-oversharpening-fix-t2951620
I compared the screen with my friend's 855, and the issue is not present in his device. He is on stock rom
I hope our model gets more support on the forum!

kazuni said:
Correct.
You can purchase the 858HK edition's quick circle case, which has different alignments for the NFC, as pictured here:
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I've just bought this case in HK, so is this one good for wireless charging too?? Any Qi charger will work?
I thought the contact points were only for the flip cover to display the clock

Celso1974 said:
I've just bought this case in HK, so is this one good for wireless charging too?? Any Qi charger will work?
I thought the contact points were only for the flip cover to display the clock
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I've also tried... Don't think it actually works (My colleague has the official LG Wireless Charging Dock with official cable and adapter, it works for the D855 but not on D858HK).
Nonetheless, it's not recommended to use the wireless charger as it seem to be buggy (hardware?) you can google the issue and read up a bit about user woes...

Are we ever gonna get root support for this phone?
or is the big wait just for lollipop and hope for that be rooted one day?

Slow?
zambara said:
I want that too...the phone is way too slow for a quad-core !!
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Try flicking over from Dalvik to ART runtime!!!!
She's a screaming beast now.........
(p.s. nothing has broken, yet)......
:silly:

I'm on art as well and finally this is what a top phone is supposed to be. I just want to get it rooted now but unfortunately I'm on 10f.
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sesamemilktea said:
I'm on art as well and finally this is what a top phone is supposed to be. I just want to get it rooted now but unfortunately I'm on 10f.
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Yes, I just bought one yesterday and found that it's 10f already and cannot root! =(
I heard that downgrading back to 10d can root, but I don't know how to do this downgrade.
Can anyone advise? Thanks a lot.

Checking in
Dear All,
I just want to check in.
I bought the D858HK yesterday as an upgrade from D805, which I loved, but i needed a dual sim. I choose the HK version because it was a lot cheaper in Hungary.
I am on v10f unfortunately so stump is not working. I am willing to root as soon as a solution pops up.
I am glad that we at least have this forum with you guys.
I am not worried about wireless charging as it is slow and risky be my opinion as well. I hate flip covers so the only issue is rooting and being able to use exposed. I hope we will get a solution or guide soon, It would be a great Christmas gift
Happy holidays to you all!
Kind Regards,
Endre

tomosendre said:
Dear All,
I just want to check in.
I bought the D858HK yesterday as an upgrade from D805, which I loved, but i needed a dual sim. I choose the HK version because it was a lot cheaper in Hungary.
I am on v10f unfortunately so stump is not working. I am willing to root as soon as a solution pops up.
I am glad that we at least have this forum with you guys.
I am not worried about wireless charging as it is slow and risky be my opinion as well. I hate flip covers so the only issue is rooting and being able to use exposed. I hope we will get a solution or guide soon, It would be a great Christmas gift
Happy holidays to you all!
Kind Regards,
Endre
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How to root
link

No fast wireless charging option on tmobile S7 edge?

Hey guys,
I am not seeing the fast wireless charging option on my silver Tmobile S7 Edge. I see the fast cable option, but beneath that is supposed to be the fast wireless charging option, according to reviews I have seen online. Anyone else in the same boat?

it is there for me
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Same for me, just checked, only see fast cable charging
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Anyone have any guesses as to why some of us have this option and some of us dont? Exynos versus SD? I thought all US phones were SD anyway? I need to go find that app that tells you exactly what hardware you have including camera sensors....
EDIT: I downloaded AIDA64 app and checked all the hardware. SD820 and Sony IMX260 as expeted. Front camera is weird - "SLSI_S5K4E6XX"

DId you guys check the accessories area and see if you unchecked the option in there?

Hmm, I don't have that option either.

Interesting.
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Mine doesn't have the wireless fast charge option either. Weird! Why TMobile removed it?

Look at my screenshot.
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It's funny mine doesn't show it either but I could have sworn that yesterday at Best buy when I put it on the wireless charger they had on display it said fast Charging. Guess I need to go back and verify.
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I have it on the Tmobile S6 Edge. I have 3 wireless chargers. Two Choetech one of them is a fast charger other is a stand. They both charge like they should but my old Tylt wireless charger is really slow. Like 5hrs slow. LoL. It worked fine with my Note 5.
S7 Edge build # MMB29M.G935TUVU1APB6

I have the S7 Edge in silver that came on Tuesday and have the Wireless Fast Charging option and have used it the past two nights with no issue. I am using the same fast wireless charger that I had for my Note 5.

Weird. I don't have it on mine. Maybe it needs to see a pad first?
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arcanexvi said:
Weird. I don't have it on mine. Maybe it needs to see a pad first?
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That may be a thought, has anyone used a fast charging pad yet and still does not have the option?

kxhaz said:
That may be a thought, has anyone used a fast charging pad yet and still does not have the option?
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arcanexvi said:
Weird. I don't have it on mine. Maybe it needs to see a pad first?
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Now I feel a little better.. there's still hope... my pad is coming!!! Free! a Samsung pay promotion when you added a 1st card!

Might need to be a fast charging pad. I have one because I have a note 5
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I cant remember where but i read that once the phone uses a fast wireless charger the option of fast charging will appear in the settings

Sorry to bring bad news, but I don't have a fast wireless charging pad and I have that option. I think when the phone officially releases we should get a software upgrade.

vnguyen972 said:
Now I feel a little better.. there's still hope... my pad is coming!!! Free! a Samsung pay promotion when you added a 1st card!
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They're giving away a standard charger, not fast.

blah_blah_blah_blah said:
I cant remember where but i read that once the phone uses a fast wireless charger the option of fast charging will appear in the settings
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It's also like that for the S-View case. At least it was with my Note5. It didn't show any options in accessories for S-View and once put the phone in the case, the S-View options always show up now.
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Red S Pen

Do you guys think this is legit?
https://www.ebay.com/i/303248872267...RmR_4k99PuSfx6-B6V1Si8D2GYdxR2YRoC87UQAvD_BwE

I ordered mine off of Amazon... Works perfect

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I ordered mine off of Amazon... Works perfect
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Sweet! I just got mine. The button doesn't seem to be working to take the photo/video.
Is there anything that I have to do or just insert the S-Pen?

Put it the pen in the phone... Go to SETTINGS >ADVANCED FEATURES >S-PEN> AIR ACTIONS... Then adjust the pen settings to your liking.

As I recall, your phone most surely only recognizes the bluetooth pairing with the original SPen it came with, there is an option to pair multiple S pens, look for it in settings, use multiple s pens, this of course, for Samsung original S pens...

I have a Samsung HM5100 sPen - might want to check out those. I just got my Note 10+ a couple days ago so I haven't played with the HM5100 sPen on it yet -- however I did pair it today. Tonight maybe I'll have time to tinker.

winol said:
As I recall, your phone most surely only recognizes the bluetooth pairing with the original SPen it came with, there is an option to pair multiple S pens, look for it in settings, use multiple s pens, this of course, for Samsung original S pens...
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i purchased the red S Pen to use with my AT&T Note 10+ and it's working for me; it charges, it works with the swipe movements and i can use it taking pictures.

Red S_pen working here with no issues ... picked up on Amazon...
Note10+
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So, these S pens are Samsung original ones? Do They come packaged by samsung or are exact models from other fabricants?

winol said:
So, these S pens are Samsung original ones? Do They come packaged by samsung or are exact models from other fabricants?
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Mine is a Samsung OEM for Note 10.
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Samsung OEM as well..
Note10+

Ohhhh, I like how that would look with my black 10+! I'll check Amazon, just don't wanna buy a fake. Which seller/sellers have authentics?

stanglifemike said:
Ohhhh, I like how that would look with my black 10+! I'll check Amazon, just don't wanna buy a fake. Which seller/sellers have authentics?
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Yes. I would be interested in exactly which seller was used on Amazon. That would help in the process.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Official-Replacement-Galaxy-Bluetooth/dp/B07V9ZJGPC
I used the one linked ...
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bkdodger said:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Official-Replacement-Galaxy-Bluetooth/dp/B07V9ZJGPC
I used the one linked ...
Note10+
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Cool, thanks man!!
bkdodger said:
Red S_pen working here with no issues ... picked up on Amazon...
Note10+
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I thought about getting blue, and after seeing that blue/red combo I wish I had! That would be perfect during games, especially if I put a red Atlanta Braves "A" on the back of the phone!

stanglifemike said:
a red Atlanta Braves "A" on the back of the phone!
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Like this

Nice it would make good combo
I went to red back now with pen
11 Max Pro

^ is jealous of your phone
bkdodger said:
Nice it would make good combo
I went to red back now with pen
11 Max Pro
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Dang it! Now I've gotta see if I can find a like-new blue 10+ for anywhere close to what I could get for mine. Really wouldn't wanna spend more than 70 or 80 just to switch to blue and I doubt I'll find one, but I've gotta check.
Oh yea, and if I do end up spending more than that, I'm gonna be mad at you for making me do it!!

stanglifemike said:
^ is jealous of your phone
Dang it! Now I've gotta see if I can find a like-new blue 10+ for anywhere close to what I could get for mine. Really wouldn't wanna spend more than 70 or 80 just to switch to blue and I doubt I'll find one, but I've gotta check.
Oh yea, and if I do end up spending more than that, I'm gonna be mad at you for making me do it!!
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Haha ... Black and red is not a bad combo either [emoji6]
Check Swappa for sales as they are usually good spot for finding a new or mint phone ...
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