Hey guys, when I first saw the Verizon edition of our gorgeous phone I nearly cried! Those large tactile and innovative buttons had been replaced with tiny indistinguishable ones, not only that but they also increased the heft it to the point where we now have to have cases specifically designed for the Verizon variant, all this just so Verizon could be "Different" and "Exclusive" Anyway down to my question. Do you guys think theres anyway to retrofit out Verizon phones so that physically, they are the same as the other variants? Rip out the QI charging bits, buttons and case. Then replace with the AT&T Buttons, case ect?
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Here's what it looks like inside. This is the verizon version obviously. I don't know what the other versions look like, but I do remember a pic floating around here.
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Quote from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457672
No. Live with it.
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I would think that you would also need the back inside shell as well because the camera bezel itself is also different. Why do you want change it? Everyone else seems to want the wireless charging.
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I would think that you would also need the back inside shell as well because the camera bezel itself is also different. Why do you want change it? Everyone else seems to want the wireless charging.
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From what I can tell the bezzel around the camera is attached to the same piece as the rear keys. So if I could fine the piece used for att id be set. As to why I dont like the design I feel the same as the author of this review http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...-gets-caught-living-in-the-shadows-of-giants/
"If you're thinking of getting the Verizon version, throw out everything nice I just said about the back. The Verizon variant has a different design that removes the great looking back pattern and buttons, instead using versions that could best be described as "cheaper." The diagonal inlay is gone. It's been replaced with a flat honeycomb pattern that isn't nearly as pronounced, and the sleek looking buttons were swapped out for a tacky sliver plastic. It really looks like Verizon saw the original version and told LG to bring the price down a bit. The result is something that doesn't look nearly as slick as the original." I think the entire point of having buttons on the back is to make them more easily accessible, which is what LG tried to do before verizon F'ed it up.
I guess nobody realizes that they use a smaller footprint for buttons because of the wireless charging coil.
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and have you even used one? it's not a big deal whatsoever. I've never missed hitting a button or hit the wrong one. it's not hard at all.
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I guess nobody realizes that they use a smaller footprint for buttons because of the wireless charging coil.
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and have you even used one? it's not a big deal whatsoever. I've never missed hitting a button or hit the wrong one. it's not hard at all.
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We understand it, I just dont think its worth it lol. Id rather have a phone the way it was designed and all the other case options that come with it. But seeing how opposed everyone is. I must be overreacting.
I'm sure that people have made that connection. I can see why the OP wants it to be without the wireless charge g and to look the way it was originally designed.
I would have the wirelss charging with those "tiny indistinguishable" buttons if I could!
My guess is by the time you mod the at&t back panels to fit the square camera bezel and ensure the big buttons/notification LED align correctly it would look ugly. I rarely use the rear buttons. When I do I have a LG G2 Ballistic SG Black Case (VERIZON) SG1233-A065 on it, that covers the buttons with rubber buttons that work well for me. I don't touch the camera lens either, and it does not bother me that I covered up the notification light.
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I thought the same about the look of the Verizon variant. From my studies of the differences on the internals, I'm not entirely sure if the addition of the charging coil would cause for a change in thickness enough to prevent a retrofit into the at&t/whoever models. I've been looking and looking, and immensely surprised at how little I can find. Google is not my friend this night haha
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Can anyone who's seen the internals of the G1 comment on the feasability of putting a G2 style upwards flipping mechanism in the G1? I guess it'd be hard and probably impossible, but if anyone can manage it, I'm offering a reward of 10 awesome points. 11 if they post a guide too.
Well never happen the g1 isn't made right for that kinda flip.
Wait...
The G1 is upwards sliding... when your phone is in horizontal layout the screen slides up... revealing a keyboard beneath.
The G2 is upwards sliding...in horizontal layout screen slides up... revealing a keyboard beneath.
what am i not seeing?
the g1 slides out to the left then up. The g2 slide up. Its a different kind of setup plus its on both the left and right of the g2
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the g1 slides out to the left then up. The g2 slide up. Its a different kind of setup plus its on both the left and right of the g2
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look at the engadget article one more time. They said that it was being jammed up and that its not the way it's supposed to look.
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look at the engadget article one more time. They said that it was being jammed up and that its not the way it's supposed to look.
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They didn't say it was being *jammed* up, they said it was being *pulled* up.
Hopefully this is a straight slide and not some insanely delicate multi-vector weakness B.S. I don't like how it appears to have come out of its track like that... if it can be pulled out like that, it IS a BAD SIGN.
You really have to wonder WTF is in the heads of these manufacturers. Is there something particularly terrible about having RAILS between the two parts to keep everything aligned and moving in a straight line? The DREAM was *OK* (but still not *great*) in this regard. We want DURABILITY, not insanity! And it would also be nice to have a ridge with a rubber damper around the screen to protect it from being dropped... but I guess that would reduce the number of replacements and repairs they can sell on devices that get broken through normal use.
Enough with the style and light weight. We want FUNCTIONALITY and DURABILITY! Give it a THICK METAL CASE. Quadruple the thickness of the glass. Protect the glass with rubber dampers and a ridge. I want something MILITARY GRADE and I'm willing to PAY for it -- and I think you will find that nobody worries about upping the price by $1 for ***ALL*** the extra materials it takes.
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Enough with the style and light weight. We want FUNCTIONALITY and DURABILITY! Give it a THICK METAL CASE. Quadruple the thickness of the glass. Protect the glass with rubber dampers and a ridge. I want something MILITARY GRADE and I'm willing to PAY for it -- and I think you will find that nobody worries about upping the price by $1 for ***ALL*** the extra materials it takes.
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well if you want all that youll need to use one of big rotary phones with the antenna and hiddn dial-pad instead. i promise you that it will be 100x more durable than this, one drop of the G2 and say good bye, but one drop from G1 and she comes home safe.
What is it with these idiots, really?
I understand the ones who want to keep their device relevant by upgrading their OS to the most current one even if it's just basic funcionality, but wanting to physically transform one device into another.
Reminds me of that other thread with the guy that wanted to turn his phone into a gimped, tiny tablet.
Seriously, is there no limit to cheap?
Not sure if its my phone and it needs to go back.
At the earpiece there is a flat spot that runs across and then another one just below it.
Seems like the process to get the curve threw them a little since its wavy all over but that is something you have to look for and can look past. The earpiece area is what I am most concerned with. Would like to know if others are seeing this.
would you be kind enough to post a picture?
Probably have to pull out the gear to do that but will be taking pics of the vibrant tomorrow so can do it then.
If you look at the speaker and then to the right and left of it there is a flat spot that runs through the glass from side to side if that makes sense.
Either way I will get pics up tomorrow.
post pic..
I don't see anything on mine.
Here are the pics.
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It could be designed into the screen but there is another line under it and its not real pretty when the phone is sitting on a desk and you see that. Guess I am just used to the flat smooth screens like the other galaxy s phones.
Is it like, indented into the glass? Looks strange
Mine doesn't look like that. Mine is smooth throughout.
Ok I see it in the pics. That kinda stinks I thought Google said the design was to be the screen blending in to the phone. Bummer.
Going to the store tomorrow and checking out others. If it was a common issue I would just deal with it. Oh well.
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Is it like, indented into the glass? Looks strange
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It is. Its a flat spot and I can see why its there with the speaker hole there and the cam and prox sensors. Seems they could make a smooth transition or I got a dud.
Take it back and get a new one.
Seems like a hardware defect, I don't see that on mine.
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I also noticed that on the first one I got, although not as defined. The issue I had was with the plastic ring around the screen. It was deformed in a few areas. I returned it for another one. This ones perfect. I suggest you do the same.
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I have it too.. but not as bad as yours. I have to really use the glare to see it.
I have the same thing...cant notice unless it has light glare on it.
I think pics make it look worse but you can always return it.
Maybe it's flat cuz of the front camera and the light sensors.
I can't tell on mine, unless i have light reflecting on it (like in your pictures)
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I have it too.. but not as bad as yours. I have to really use the glare to see it.
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Thats what I am wondering. I had to use the light to get it in the pics. I deal with glass all day so see these things more then the average person. The bottom is nice and smooth . but the top is a different story. I wonder if others have this and just don't notice it. I hope not but maybe the pics will help others see what I am seeing and give a definite answer.
Either way I am going to go check out some others at BB tomorrow and will report back with what I find.
It may not be a issue at all and part of the design of the phone.
same here but i didnt notice it until you mentioned it.
No problems here on mine. Weird.
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Crap. In the kitchen light I can see it now. Fffuuuuuuuu
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The capacitive buttons on my blackmist 32gb S4 are visible while not lit up. I had a 16gb phone before this one where I had to look very hard to see the buttons. Also most of S4's I have seen require you to look very hard to see the capacitive buttons when not lit.
Anyone else able to easily see their buttons when they are not lit?
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The capacitive buttons on my blackmist 32gb S4 are visible while not lit up. I had a 16gb phone before this one where I had to look very hard to see the buttons. Also most of S4's I have seen require you to look very hard to see the capacitive buttons when not lit.
Anyone else able to easily see their buttons when they are not lit?
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I believe Samsung intended to have them "hidden" when not lit up. I have a black GS4 and mine are nearly impossible to see if not lit up.
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I believe Samsung intended to have them "hidden" when not lit up. I have a black GS4 and mine are nearly impossible to see if not lit up.
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Exactly why it bothers me. I do not believe it is intended. Here are some pictures of what I mean.
I could have much worse problems but this still bothers me very much.
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Here is a picture of my old 16gb in the same exact conditions...
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Exactly why it bothers me. I do not believe it is intended. Here are some pictures of what I mean.
I could have much worse problems but this still bothers me very much.
Here is a picture of my old 16gb in the same exact conditions...
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take the screen protector off and then look at it.
Samsung intended them to be hidden. Personally I like it that way. Its not hard to locate them, for me atleast.
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Samsung intended them to be hidden. Personally I like it that way. Its not hard to locate them, for me atleast.
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I just don't understand why mine aren't. Seems like a weird thing for them to be inconsistent with. A little disappointing.
Me and my brother got a 32GB S4 from the same ATT store a week apart. My buttons are invisible while off but his is visible as shown above. But his is brighter when on. I think someone at the factory is forgetting a layer of material or something :silly:
I wouldn't mind having it either way, but yeah...definitely a quality control issue.
Try and see if you can exchange it (if you're still in your 14 day period). Say there's a defect with it and compare it to another S4? Like you, the sight of the capacitive buttons would annoy me, had I known it's intended to be hidden (honestly, it looks a lot better hidden compared to my retired S2 that has the buttons showing all the time).
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mintu123 said:
take the screen protector off and then look at it.
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They were like that before I put the screen protector on.
GTRagnarok said:
Me and my brother got a 32GB S4 from the same ATT store a week apart. My buttons are invisible while off but his is visible as shown above. But his is brighter when on. I think someone at the factory is forgetting a layer of material or something :silly:
I wouldn't mind having it either way, but yeah...definitely a quality control issue.
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Same here, the buttons are brighter on the visible phone. Very weird.
you just haaaad to get the 32gb model.
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you just haaaad to get the 32gb model.
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Lol I know right! There is no winning in this world.
Depending on my lighting condition I can see the buttons on my 16gb
You aspies wanting to exchange phones for the slightest *anything* tickle me. Accept it and move on.
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I went ahead and exchanged, no more visible buttons, but now I seem to have the tiniest scratch on my camera lens. It's only noticeable under very direct light lol. Cannot win. I will take Apollo-2's advice and accept and move on (or perhaps sell when nexus editions arrives).
On another note, ATT reps make me cringe when they take the phone apart to insert the sim card. No care at all, just rip the thing apart and dig their nails into the sim slot. I asked to do it myself and was pretty much told no. These are $600+ devices, they should not be handling them like flip phones!
I am wondering if this is common issue?
More importantly, anyone with white model have this problem too?
I am thinking to cancel my order and wait for later batch if that could make difference ...
Source: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RyanKonnad/posts/JnTrchcQqh7
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Oh wow... I was hoping this wasn't an issue anymore. Hasn't happened to my midnight blue yet.
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if it is the same problem the M8 has it is not really fix able without a full change over. Its the glue that holds the letters on. The glue that holds the letters on the HTC One M8, HTC Logo starts to fail after the phone is heated over and over again. I am not surprised the N6 has the same problem. I think it looks better without letters really. I am sure the white has the same problem. You may be able to use super glue after it falls off and see if that is better.
no problems here. Im a daily power user too.
I got this pretty badly on my Nexus 5.
It's kind of a non-issue in my opinion.
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It's kind of a non-issue in my opinion.
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Non issue? For a 700 dollar phone, it certainly is an issue. Had this happen on my nexus 5. Hope this is a rare occurrence.
There's another thread somewhere here on this. People that ordered from Motorola said Moto is doing advance replacement for this issue. I'd hope Google would do the same thing for gp orders.
Yup, non-issue. I don't expect things like that to stay in forever. That's like saying that the coating on my drums should never wear off, but it does.
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Yup, non-issue. I don't expect things like that to stay in forever. That's like saying that the coating on my drums should never wear off, but it does.
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I can understand if the device has been used for quite a long time.
But, just few days? Come on ...
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Yup, non-issue. I don't expect things like that to stay in forever. That's like saying that the coating on my drums should never wear off, but it does.
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It's an issue with a $700 phone, and we're not talking about 'forever'... we're talking about letters falling off with only days of use. I would be pissed if it happened to me. That would be equivalent of the paint peeling off your drum within days after purchase.
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Yup, non-issue. I don't expect things like that to stay in forever. That's like saying that the coating on my drums should never wear off, but it does.
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So, if you buy a new car it's OK if all the brand and model logos fall off in the first week of ownership? IMO, it makes the phone look really cheap.
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Yup, non-issue. I don't expect things like that to stay in forever. That's like saying that the coating on my drums should never wear off, but it does.
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Drums are hit where the coating is... Man, not everybody is equipped with common sense.
Car emblems hardly ever fall off but if they did, would it be a non-issue?
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So, if you buy a new car it's OK if all the brand and model logos fall off in the first week of ownership? IMO, it makes the phone look really cheap.
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Didn't even see this post before I posted.
Exactly!
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I wonder if the AT&T logo will just fall off sometime?
I could understand if after a year and it happened but after a few days? That's not a non issue its a defect. If it happens to mine I will be demanding a new phone.
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I wonder if the AT&T logo will just fall off sometime?
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Heard u can rub it off
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Mines nexus name not peeling off
As long as the car served it's primary function, I don't care if the logos came off. But that's just me.
So we've got this issue but I've only seen one picture of it? Also the pic posted here has a crooked letter "n" on the curved part what's up with that....
gogol said:
I am wondering if this is common issue?
More importantly, anyone with white model have this problem too?
I am thinking to cancel my order and wait for later batch if that could make difference ...
Source: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RyanKonnad/posts/JnTrchcQqh7
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Looks like a bad example of photoshop-ing skills....
When are the letters of the device not straight, or have jagged edges?? Unless the owner tried "fixing" the peeling with white out?
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So we've got this issue but I've only seen one picture of it? Also the pic posted here has a crooked letter "n" on the curved part what's up with that....
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I'm with Wind Mobile (who's vague as an abstract painting about their release), but they're only giving out phones to new accounts.
The trick is to go to one of their corporate offices (which would be a "warranty repair centre") where they can't deny you a sale of said new device.
So, tomorrow, bright and early, this guy's going into town with the hopes that they have one in stock.
Wind doesn't lock their phones like other carriers do (not at all), so it's going to be interesting to see whether we can get full root on this thing or not (fingers crossed).
Who's going in on said device here in Canada?
Post phone lock states and whatnot to this thread! For science, and curiosity. :fingers-crossed:
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So u get a new device in canada ?
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Apparently the Wind shop closest to me is backordered on said G5 for at least one week, rep would not confirm anything else (still vague).
Roommate snagged one up at a Bell kiosk just as they got a shipment of camera modules in stock. He spent an hour there between the kiosk rep and on the phone with "customer loyalty" trying to get a better deal since he's been with them 10 years, and nothing came out of it other than the standard free attachment.
His phone warmed up a fair bit during initial setup and charging but he seems happy with it overall. His only gripe is -- why can't the camera attachment hardware buttons snap a photo while screen off?
I got mine - here in Manitoba.
Picked mine up earlier today with the cam plus module for free! I thought they were only giving these to those who re-upped for two years.
Got the "Free Gift"
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Picked mine up earlier today with the cam plus module for free! I thought they were only giving these to those who re-upped for two years.
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- But I did re-up. Sweet, fast phone with some refined MM goodness. Watch out for the edges of the screen protector.
The screen "tapers" or is slightly thinner at the edges/corners - looks like a recipe for frustration as the screen protector will not remain perfect for long. I noticed the after enabling Dev Options I have the "Enable OEM Unlocking" function. I have no illusions that anything would be this simple.....
Yeah but still no Bootloader unlock.
That oem unlocking is just part of os
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Wind does have the LG G5 for existing customers too. I found it in the list of upgrade phones. Perhaps I will wait for a proper root before upgrading...
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my plan was to get the device as soon as it came out, but when I got our demo device in store, I put off my decision till hearing more about the HTC 10.
The things I have noticed with the demo at my store is
1: The module at the bottom does not line up with the device, it might not be lots but it is enough. Plus worry about the future if the gap will get bigger
2: Audio quality is really weak. After using the G4 for the last while, I find the G4 has better placement and a better speaker all together.
3: The phones "metal body" feels weird. It does feel solid but at the same time it does not. Hard to explain
Those are my main issues, now with the camera, I do like the idea with the wide angle lenses but i wish the dual lenses was to help with zoom. Also I wish they upgraded the 16MP shooter. Dont get me wrong, the sensor is great with the G4 and G5, but I would have liked to see it improved even more. One other thing I would loved to see is before the phone was even released, LG going to the different accessory makers to give them the module access so when the phone launched they had more modules.
I dont know, maybe I am just being nit picky but I think LG dropped the ball a bit on this one. My final decision will be when I get my hands on the HTC 10 and G5 at the same time.
Got mine on Friday morning. Comparing this with the G3, G4 and Note Edge I find this thing to be ultra fast. Camera is pretty good although bright, its very noisey. Audio quality is ok.
Waiting for a root method,. unlocked the oem part, hopefully we will see root soon, Cant wait to seeing v10 camera app ports and custom kernels with exposed stuff