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Hi everyone, I've been planning on buying the Moto X play pretty soon, got some questions though that may or may not change my mind.
How is the development relationship with Motorola in general in terms of sources releasing and bootloader unlocking?
Any kernel/device sources they have released for the Moto X Play?
I've seen CM12 on the device but is it the official branch? Also are there any features lost? (for example the camera quality seems to degrade on some phones with different roms)
Thanks.
(if this is on the wrong forum section please correct me)
Not sure the first 2 questions, maybe a dev can answer those but I can say the the version of CM12.1 developed by Squid2 is unofficial however he plans on turning his CM13 branch into the official branch for Moto X play. This is usually how its done anyways. Someone starts building and maintaining an unofficial branch and then moves to building and maintaining the official branch.
What is your budget
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What is your budget
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Around the price of this phone and in my opinion it's also the best phone but i'm curious about it's development status before i get one and potentially develop for it too.
TommyDN said:
Hi everyone, I've been planning on buying the Moto X play pretty soon, got some questions though that may or may not change my mind.
How is the development relationship with Motorola in general in terms of sources releasing and bootloader unlocking?
Any kernel/device sources they have released for the Moto X Play?
I've seen CM12 on the device but is it the official branch? Also are there any features lost? (for example the camera quality seems to degrade on some phones with different roms)
Thanks.
(if this is on the wrong forum section please correct me)
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Motorola was a bit slower to release source code than I'd like (they took a month after release), but that's not too bad. This phone is not difficult to develop for. My CM12.1 port is solid, everything works and the camera quality is excellent. My CM13 port is a WIP and is buggier, but it'll get there in time.
Performance wise, this phone sits somewhere between the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. The animations and some operations on the Motorola 5.1 stock ROM are not quite as smooth as I'd like, though it's not terrible either. On my recent CM12.1 builds performance is significantly better than the stock ROM, and CM13 is buttery smooth. Rumour is that the Motorola 6.0 stock ROM whose soak test appears to have started is significantly smoother than the 5.1 stock ROM, If you plan on tinkering with your phone, I'd say don't worry about performance, it's fine with custom ROMs and Motorola may be improving the stock ROM too.
As for the value proposition, I'd say it's toughest competitor would be the OnePlus X. Comparing the two devices (I don't have a OnePlus X, but I have 2014 Moto X that's similar in many ways), I'd say:
Moto X Play advantages:
- Bigger battery
- Better camera
- Bigger screen (if you like big screens)
OnePlus X advantages:
- Faster processor
- More hand and pocket friendly size
- Lower price
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Motorola was a bit slower to release source code than I'd like (they took a month after release), but that's not too bad. This phone is not difficult to develop for. My CM12.1 port is solid, everything works and the camera quality is excellent. My CM13 port is a WIP and is buggier, but it'll get there in time.
Performance wise, this phone sits somewhere between the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. The animations and some operations on the Motorola 5.1 stock ROM are not quite as smooth as I'd like, though it's not terrible either. On my recent CM12.1 builds performance is significantly better than the stock ROM, and CM13 is buttery smooth. Rumour is that the Motorola 6.0 stock ROM whose soak test appears to have started is significantly smoother than the 5.1 stock ROM, If you plan on tinkering with your phone, I'd say don't worry about performance, it's fine with custom ROMs and Motorola may be improving the stock ROM too.
As for the value proposition, I'd say it's toughest competitor would be the OnePlus X. Comparing the two devices (I don't have a OnePlus X, but I have 2014 Moto X that's similar in many ways), I'd say:
Moto X Play advantages:
- Bigger battery
- Better camera
- Bigger screen (if you like big screens)
OnePlus X advantages:
- Faster processor
- More hand and pocket friendly size
- Lower price
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Thanks for all the information! I'm pretty convinced this phone will be the better for me as i'd rather have "In-country warranty" just in case. And coming from a snapdragon 400 phone it can only get better for me i guess.
squid2 said:
Motorola was a bit slower to release source code than I'd like (they took a month after release), but that's not too bad. This phone is not difficult to develop for. My CM12.1 port is solid, everything works and the camera quality is excellent. My CM13 port is a WIP and is buggier, but it'll get there in time.
Performance wise, this phone sits somewhere between the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. The animations and some operations on the Motorola 5.1 stock ROM are not quite as smooth as I'd like, though it's not terrible either. On my recent CM12.1 builds performance is significantly better than the stock ROM, and CM13 is buttery smooth. Rumour is that the Motorola 6.0 stock ROM whose soak test appears to have started is significantly smoother than the 5.1 stock ROM, If you plan on tinkering with your phone, I'd say don't worry about performance, it's fine with custom ROMs and Motorola may be improving the stock ROM too.
As for the value proposition, I'd say it's toughest competitor would be the OnePlus X. Comparing the two devices (I don't have a OnePlus X, but I have 2014 Moto X that's similar in many ways), I'd say:
Moto X Play advantages:
- Bigger battery
- Better camera
- Bigger screen (if you like big screens)
OnePlus X advantages:
- Faster processor
- More hand and pocket friendly size
- Lower price
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May I add something? I think another competitor would be the Wileyfox Storm.
- Native Cyanogenmod support.
- Around 70 euro's cheaper.
- A slightly smaller battery.
- Same processor.
- Same size screen.
In fact I was ready to buy that device but I went for a X Play because of the bigger battery and your rom. Your work on Cyanogenmod convinced me to to buy this device.
Thanks again guys, waiting on the christmas sale now so i can get some discount.
Just one thing that I might be worried about, been reading some people that broke the glass on their phones in situations where it should have not.. Were they just an unlucky bunch of people or is it something i should worry about?
This phone is overpriced in my opinion
TommyDN said:
Thanks again guys, waiting on the christmas sale now so i can get some discount.
Just one thing that I might be worried about, been reading some people that broke the glass on their phones in situations where it should have not.. Were they just an unlucky bunch of people or is it something i should worry about?
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Just because some mxp users broke their screen doesn't mean it's fragile, no one knows how they handle their devices. Its all up to how you care for your phone. With some discount, it's the best phone in its category. Go ahead.
Hey guys, I'm a Verizon customer and my 2 requirements in a phone are unlockable bootloader and sd card support. Since my options are scarce (CDMA compatibility) I've been using a 64GB Moto X Pure since they launched last year. I recently stumbled across the Moto G4 Plus and noticed that it fits my criteria for a smart phone.
Does anyone who owns a G4 Plus also own a MXP? They seem to be about the same size. The MXP has a better camera and screen resolution while the G4+ has a octa core processor. I'd much appreciate anyone's feedback who owns both phones. How do they compare in normal/heavy use, not just on paper?
Source - http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...la-Moto-X-Pure-Edition-2015/phones/10053,9694
The Moto X Pure is much better in almost every way.
G4 Plus has a better camera, especially in low light situations. Fingerprint reader is super fast and I use it every day.
And the model with 64GB storage /4GB RAM is fast enough for every need. Who cares what a benchmark say? Nobody uses a benchmark daily...
Screen resolution? 520 ppi vs 401 ppi? Who cares, in order to see that you need to burry your face into the display or, if you are over 40yrs, you need two pairs of glasses to see that density!
PS: That comparison link is wrong, because that's not the US version of G4 Plus, it has the wrong LTE bands!
I ordered one off eBay that someone had lost the IMEI from flashing the wrong rom. Obviously I didn't pay full price. I'm hoping I can flash a stock rom and fix it.
If anyone has a link to the best restore file it would be appreciated. I tried to download from File Factory last night but after an hour or so the download failed. It's a US Moto G4 Plus 64GB.
Or if anyone else has tips about restoring the IMEI that would be great.
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joshw0000 said:
I ordered one off eBay that someone had lost the IMEI from flashing the wrong rom. Obviously I didn't pay full price. I'm hoping I can flash a stock rom and fix it.
If anyone has a link to the best restore file it would be appreciated. I tried to download from File Factory last night but after an hour or so the download failed. It's a US Moto G4 Plus 64GB.
Or if anyone else has tips about restoring the IMEI that would be great.
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Look at the link below, it should be there. It's a link from Root Junky's site and should be good.
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=72578
Def not a great camera. It is decent and great for the price but not great. It is mediocre at best. The videos are mediocre too.
Tel864 said:
Look at the link below, it should be there. It's a link from Root Junky's site and should be good.
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=72578
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Thanks I actually found that link last night and downloaded ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz.tgz. I have no idea what system version this phone will have installed when I receive it or what the current version is but this one had the newest upload date so I hope it's the newest one.
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Try the one without amz, that is for the Amazon devices.
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Try the one without amz, that is for the Amazon devices.
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I also downloaded this one -
XT1625-XT1644_ATHENE_RETUS_MPJ24.139-64_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
Hopefully one of these will work.
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The last one is the one that it works right now in my XT1644.
Nevermind. The @$$hole had been on XDA every day since he sold me the phone and supposedly shipped it to me. I checked the tracking # yesterday and USPS had never received it. I sent him a message about it. He first replied that he was shipping it tomorrow (today), then immediately replied that his son dropped and busted.
Why sell something on eBay if you're not sure that you want to sell it yet?
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Btw you should get better battery life on the g4 because of Smaller resolution and same battery. If I recall the mxp also has 3k mah. The CPU should also use less energy, not sure on that.
Overall, you're downgrading, especially camera. I like the g4 plus even on 2gb memory. It's smooth and decent battery life. Fingerprint is fast. You don't really have a choice imo. You may even opt for the regular g4 imo. Not much difference outside camera.
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Btw you should get better battery life on the g4 because of Smaller resolution and same battery. If I recall the mxp also has 3k mah. The CPU should also use less energy, not sure on that.
Overall, you're downgrading, especially camera. I like the g4 plus even on 2gb memory. It's smooth and decent battery life. Fingerprint is fast. You don't really have a choice imo. You may even opt for the regular g4 imo. Not much difference outside camera.
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Good information. Thanks.
I currently have the moto g4 play (Verizon version)
and I'm thinking about getting the Moto X Pure or the Moto G4 for the bigger display and hd calling. I have read that both phones have a problem with overheating. (The Qualcomm snapdragon 808 and 617 processors are known for overheating issues). I would lean toward the Moto G4 but it seems the overheating issue is a bigger problem with the G4 than the Moto X pure.
What are your thoughts on the overheating issues?
classic757 said:
Good information. Thanks.
I currently have the moto g4 play (Verizon version)
and I'm thinking about getting the Moto X Pure or the Moto G4 for the bigger display and hd calling. I have read that both phones have a problem with overheating. (The Qualcomm snapdragon 808 and 617 processors are known for overheating issues). I would lean toward the Moto G4 but it seems the overheating issue is a bigger problem with the G4 than the Moto X pure.
What are your thoughts on the overheating issues?
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I have a G4 Plus and it heats, but it doesnt overheat. I tested playing 3 games at the same time and plugged the TurboCharger for 30m and it got very hot like 47° but look what i was doing.
Heats yes, of course but it doesn't overheat. I have a friend who has a LG G3, that phone really overheats. Reachs 60° only playing a game, and 43° in stock. Insane.
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I have a G4 Plus and it heats, but it doesnt overheat. I tested playing 3 games at the same time and plugged the TurboCharger for 30m and it got very hot like 47° but look what i was doing.
Heats yes, of course but it doesn't overheat. I have a friend who has a LG G3, that phone really overheats. Reachs 60° only playing a game, and 43° in stock. Insane.
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Oh okay. Thanks.
I really like the moto g4 play and feel I would like the moto g4(don't want the plus 'cause I don't need or use a fingerprint sensor and there's not that many upgrades that
justify me getting the plus over the regular g4).
My concern is that I play a lot of music videos on my phone and when I tested a Moto X Pure in store,
the phone got hot after watching a music video on YouTube for only about two or three minutes, so I was like okay don't think I want to mess with that.
I'm thinking it might be the same or worse with the moto g4.
I don't want a fire trap for a phone.
May try the moto g4 and if I do experience constant overheating I'll simply return it.
I personally think it's a mix between:
Better camera, fingerprint sensor (and a good one), & battery life with the g4 plus
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Better performance (both cpu and gpu, especially gpu and overall performance) & maybe the fact there is more community support since it's been out for a while, for the x pure.
Can't be asked about the heat problems that some users are having with either, I ran antutu benchmark on both g4 plus and x pure and none got hot to the point where you couldn't hold it or have it feel like it was burning you. US variants of course.
If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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Ditto! This was my first ever android phone, and I am totally dejected by the build quality and lackluster support.
yzT said:
If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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The question is: Why are you asking this in the moto g4 plus forum and not in the Z play forum? Z play is available so people there can told you, but here the people cannot?!
skooter32 said:
A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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+1
strongst said:
The question is: Why are you asking this in the moto g4 plus forum and not in the Z play forum? Z play is available so people there can told you, but here the people cannot?!
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because the G5 Plus is the evolution of the G4 Plus. It's more expected that someone from the same series (G) move to the newer model instead than someone moving from the flagship series (Z).
to all the others complaining about Motorola, why are you in this section? Go away if you don't like it
wait for the G5
I'd wait for the G5. I'm very happy with my G4 plus, my next phone will definitely be in this series. Unless Motorola implodes....
I bought G4 plus a week ago. It's a great phone. But I think You should go for Nokia series though. I bet the nokia like always will provide more durability than the Chinese. I used 6 Nokia phones before G4 plus, all of them were bomb. Still If you want a better display with slightly better battery life, you should wait.
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I bought G4 plus a week ago. It's a great phone. But I think You should go for Nokia series though. I bet the nokia like always will provide more durability than the Chinese. I used 6 Nokia phones before G4 plus, all of them were bomb. Still If you want a better display with slightly better battery life, you should wait.
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You know that now Nokia is only a name? There will never be Nokia quality like in good old times! It's a smartphone and at the top are letters telling you "Nokia".
It'll be interesting to see how the Nokia 6 (and the rumoured Nokia 8) fare, see if HMD Global/Nokia are back to their former glory. Also remains to be seen if the Moto G5 actually matches up to the rumoured specs too!
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You know that now Nokia is only a name? There will never be Nokia quality like in good old times! It's a smartphone and at the top are letters telling you "Nokia".
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Yeah but the people who worked on the phone are all Nokia veterans. They used to work for Old Nokia. And with the first sell they had in China I think Nokia has the potential to gain back the reputation they lost due to Microsoft. I am not saying you are wrong, This is just my opinion as I used to be A Nokia fanboy.
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Yeah but the people who worked on the phone are all Nokia veterans. They used to work for Old Nokia. And with the first sell they had in China I think Nokia has the potential to gain back the reputation they lost due to Microsoft. I am not saying you are wrong, This is just my opinion as I used to be A Nokia fanboy.
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+1 Nokia fan boy let's hope you're right and Nokia will find back to the old quality
I am a Z Play user so I would recommend it to you, because it has frontal flash, Moto mods, bigger battery and USB Type C. Regarding to custom ROMs, it's not so popular because it was released 3 months ago, but it has lineage OS (camera is in process to be fixed) and surely other ROMs will come out. Every device takes some time to become popular and have custom ROMs, so if you like custom ROMs and are going to wait for G5, you will have to deal with it. Greetings
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I am a Z Play user so I would recommend it to you, because it has frontal flash, Moto mods, bigger battery and USB Type C. Regarding to custom ROMs, it's not so popular because it was released 3 months ago, but it has lineage OS (camera is in process to be fixed) and surely other ROMs will come out. Every device takes some time to become popular and have custom ROMs, so if you like custom ROMs and are going to wait for G5, you will have to deal with it. Greetings
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Do Moto mods work in a non stock ROM?
guessingagain said:
Do Moto mods work in a non stock ROM?
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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You need to port libraries etc. It's quite difficult
strongst said:
You need to port libraries etc. It's quite difficult
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I trust developers, they're very knowledgeable. Developers of Moto Z are working on this too
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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In my past experience something that requires porting libraries is only supported in stock based Roms and not ones based in AOSP or CAF. ( Kind of like Moto Display)
I hope it does though.
I am in the US so everything I say is in US dollars, US versions, etc.
I purchased the Motorola X Pure as soon as it came out and was happy with it but lately it has had a lot of issues particularly with GPS. It works fine 90% of the time but that 10% of the time it says "Searching for GPS" while navigating and have caused me lots of problems with missing turns, etc while traveling out of town. Also it is very laggy switching between apps and even just surfing the web. I don't really play games...my average day of use consists of using Chrome to surf the web, using Google Maps for navigation (I use it even when I know where I am going because it notifies of traffic and accidents and advises the best route considering those), and watch videos on YouTube, Netflix, or Hulu. I also take a lot of pictures but not every day but a lot...anybody out there with kids knows you take way more pictures than you need, lol.
Since it was a mid-level phone at release and is a couple years old now I have been looking to replace it. My first thought was the Moto G5 Plus since I have Amazon Prime and can get the higher end model for only $240.
Is there a better phone available (based on my needs mentioned above) under $300? What about under $400? I can MAYBE stretch my budget to $400 but no more and that has to include tax, etc.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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I am in the US so everything I say is in US dollars, US versions, etc.
I purchased the Motorola X Pure as soon as it came out and was happy with it but lately it has had a lot of issues particularly with GPS. It works fine 90% of the time but that 10% of the time it says "Searching for GPS" while navigating and have caused me lots of problems with missing turns, etc while traveling out of town. Also it is very laggy switching between apps and even just surfing the web. I don't really play games...my average day of use consists of using Chrome to surf the web, using Google Maps for navigation (I use it even when I know where I am going because it notifies of traffic and accidents and advises the best route considering those), and watch videos on YouTube, Netflix, or Hulu. I also take a lot of pictures but not every day but a lot...anybody out there with kids knows you take way more pictures than you need, lol.
Since it was a mid-level phone at release and is a couple years old now I have been looking to replace it. My first thought was the Moto G5 Plus since I have Amazon Prime and can get the higher end model for only $240.
Is there a better phone available (based on my needs mentioned above) under $300? What about under $400? I can MAYBE stretch my budget to $400 but no more and that has to include tax, etc.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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I picked up this phone today and only gripe so far coming from the S7 Edge is camera is pretty bad... Not sure if it's enough to push me back to S7 but I'm definitely considering it. Besides the camera I'm not sure what else you'd possibly want at this price point.
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Moto z play are about $300 on Swappa. Much better battery life, mod compatible, more premium feeling, bigger AMOLED screen, quite a few ROMs, etc. I love my Z Play!
Rather have the Moto g5 over play. The mods are imho worthless. With mods you might as well spend the money on a s8 or s7
Looks like the ASUS Zenfone 3 is about the same price as the Moto G5 Plus, how do those compare?
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Rather have the Moto g5 over play. The mods are imho worthless. With mods you might as well spend the money on a s8 or s7
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My guess is that the AMOLED and bigger battery of Z Play makes the SOT somewhat better. Just because the mods are worthless doesn't mean the device is worse, or that you are committed to buy some mod. Probably one should decide if you prefer 5.2 or 5.5 inch display, and find out if you need dual SIM or longer lasting battery is more important. Also I like the USB-C-plug that you can't put in the wrong way - you know USB is the only plug where you have only two directions, but always need three tries until you get it right
For someone who had a X Pure I'm quite sure Touchwiz is a no-go (for me it is, since I had a Galaxy S3 I won't buy a Samsung anymore), so S7 or S8 are pointless.
Buy oneplus 3t
This is the biggest of an Android phone I'm willing to get. I am eyeing the Xperia X Compact because I want a small phone. If This had NFC for the US version I would have bought it right away, since it doesn't I will have to pass.
chmcke01 said:
Looks like the ASUS Zenfone 3 is about the same price as the Moto G5 Plus, how do those compare?
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I wouldn't use Asus even if I was stranded on top of Mt. Everest! Zf2 burn me with them cause they never update their phones! Zf3 still on 6.0, so is the zf2. So much bloat you can't uninstall with them. Only plus is I think the top of the line zf3 has the 820? Also if you care about ROMs, then I don't think the zf3 has a lot of that going on now. I have a strong feeling the g5 will be packed with roms in no time
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Buy oneplus 3t
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I like the OnePlus 3T...but my budget is $300 (can bend enough to be $300 plus tax, shipping, etc but not more than that)
What would be your recommendation within that range? Is there a better phone within that range than the G5 Plus?
Also, I am really only interested in phones with warranty so I don't want to buy a used one on swappa, etc.
Thanks for all the feedback!
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I like the OnePlus 3T...but my budget is $300 (can bend enough to be $300 plus tax, shipping, etc but not more than that)
What would be your recommendation within that range? Is there a better phone within that range than the G5 Plus?
Also, I am really only interested in phones with warranty so I don't want to buy a used one on swappa, etc.
Thanks for all the feedback!
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I would suggest you to go for it buddy. You'll definitely not gonna mind anything. I don't see any other phone in this price range better than this. Development will be as good as previous generation I think. So I think you should go for it.
chmcke01 said:
I like the OnePlus 3T...but my budget is $300 (can bend enough to be $300 plus tax, shipping, etc but not more than that)
What would be your recommendation within that range? Is there a better phone within that range than the G5 Plus?
Also, I am really only interested in phones with warranty so I don't want to buy a used one on swappa, etc.
Thanks for all the feedback!
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I'm very impressed with the g5 plus 64gb version. I had a op3, note 5, s7, s7edge. The features on this make it as good or better than those flagships. Camera and LCD vs amoled are the only drawbacks. Love Moto display and all the gestures, plus killer feature for me is gesture navigation on fingerprint reader, is the bomb! Battery life is stellar!
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I wouldn't use Asus even if I was stranded on top of Mt. Everest! Zf2 burn me with them cause they never update their phones!
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I had three ZF2s. Phantom touch, 1/3 of the screen went black, and then random hangs in a year and a half.
The first two were under warranty, requiring me to send the phone in, which took like a week and a half.
Total crap.
This phone has been voted best budget phone for the money on many different sites. I guess that could change every month a new phone is released though
I need to get a new phone since my lg G4 died... I find that the OS on Motorola is way better and I have had Samsungs and LG.
I will recommend it, besides any cel will eventually die. So imho I will no longer spend tons of useless money just to be fancy with the mobile phone.
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I took advantage of the free $15 offer when you buy a $75 gift card to help pay for my Moto G5 Plus 64GB from Amazon.com (I mention this since you are in the USA). I also got 5% off by using the Amazon.com credit card (5% back in Amazon.com "points"), and, I had about $112 in "gift card" credit. I figured since I had made my OnePlus One last for more than three years, and I was able to talk customer service into giving me $12 off the $299 price, I couldn't say no to getting a new phone any longer. I might prefer a 5.5" screen over 5.2" but I'm not sure, I figured it'd be nice to try, see how it feels to have a slightly smaller phone in my pocket, and, maybe ever so slightly easier to use it one handed? I find that I often use my phone one-handed and I can't quite reach sometimes.
On the plus side, I'm really excited about the lower megapixel camera with it's fairly large sensor and wide aperture lens at F/1.7 - I know some people have complained about the camera on this phone, but I expect to get great results regardless - I don't know why it's not working well for them?
The only thing that really upsets me about the Moto G5 Plus is the Micro USB charging port instead of the new standard USB C port. I may have to see about doing some kind of wireless charging mod to my phone because I'm really getting tired of Micro USB.
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I don't understand why I see a few users saying the camera is bad - website reviews are liking the camera, and, it is the same chip as the "high end" Galaxy S7 cameras. Is the camera APP really that bad? Hopefully any issues will be addressed by either A) update or B) 3rd party camera APP/tweaks/mods.
xxBrun0xx said:
Moto z play are about $300 on Swappa. Much better battery life, mod compatible, more premium feeling, bigger AMOLED screen, quite a few ROMs, etc. I love my Z Play!
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Actually, what I've red from people that have had the Z and now moved to the G5 Plus is that the G5 Plus has better battery life, presumably because the newer 625 CPU is more efficient.
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Actually, what I've red from people that have had the Z and now moved to the G5 Plus is that the G5 Plus has better battery life, presumably because the newer 625 CPU is more efficient.
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What do you think which chipset is being used in the Moto Z Play?
(Hint: Same!)
Think you are talking about Moto Z, not Moto Z Play.
Hi users and developers ,I am pretty much confused as for I should pick Moto g4+(3,32) by handing over my Moto Turbo (3,64),so can suggest your views as if it'd be a worthy upgrade or not?as far as I know the g4+ has software glitches creating the performance issues and wonder if they could solved by installing custom ROMs? awaiting for a quick reply, thanks in advance ??
no clue if it's a n upgrade
Don't know anything about your current phone.-
No software issue ever on my g4 plus.
The g4 plus is ok for a cheapy phone.
i DO have ghost touch off and on which is a pain in the ass though.
No compass also, some people want that.
GeekyTanuj said:
Hi users and developers ,I am pretty much confused as for I should pick Moto g4+(3,32) by handing over my Moto Turbo (3,64),so can suggest your views as if it'd be a worthy upgrade or not?as far as I know the g4+ has software glitches creating the performance issues and wonder if they could solved by installing custom ROMs? awaiting for a quick reply, thanks in advance
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if you can buy G5+ or G5s+ go for them as G4+ is a heater and have different problems for different users.
you should get g5+ which is defiantly good phone than g4+
The G5+ looks much better if you can afford it. As others said, the compass is missed in the G4+. Other than that, it's a great phone with a great battery life and I don't have ghost touch issues if I leave the screen brightness below 50%.
You should not go for g4+
I must tell you this phone heats a lot especially when you record a video, no matter which rom you are on. And there are different issues with different users like ghost touch, screen burn,random shutdowns/reboots,etc.
GeekyTanuj said:
Hi users and developers ,I am pretty much confused as for I should pick Moto g4+(3,32) by handing over my Moto Turbo (3,64),so can suggest your views as if it'd be a worthy upgrade or not?as far as I know the g4+ has software glitches creating the performance issues and wonder if they could solved by installing custom ROMs? awaiting for a quick reply, thanks in advance ??
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Nope don't ever pick g4+ when g5+ or g5s+ are way better in heat management and have premium design.
GeekyTanuj said:
Hi users and developers ,I am pretty much confused as for I should pick Moto g4+(3,32) by handing over my Moto Turbo (3,64),so can suggest your views as if it'd be a worthy upgrade or not?as far as I know the g4+ has software glitches creating the performance issues and wonder if they could solved by installing custom ROMs? awaiting for a quick reply, thanks in advance
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Go for g5+ instead of g4+. I'm currently using the g4+ and recently bought the g5+ for my brother and i must say that g5+ was 100 times better than the g4+. G4+ heats a lot if u play games and browsing with data etc... Whereas the g5+ doesn't even get warm with extreme gaming and multitasking,browsing etc...Also the battery life is terrible in g4+ as we have to charge for 2 times a day (my usage may differ with others) but on the g5+,the battery life is awesome. Note that both are having 3000mah battery but the processors are different which makes the g5+ more battery efficient and no heat rejection. Camera is also better in g5+ even though g4+ also takes good photos. Overall if u want to buy new phone i will 100% recommend g5+ over g4+ as i have seen both phones and used it.
I see lot of ppl recommending g5, but that was not your question!
I find the g4 to have a really nice and active community with a lot of stable and experimental roms. Oreo is soon to be stable.
The g5 is a newer device which will be upgraded to oreo officially, but is a more expensive device and it doesn't have official TWRP nor official lineageOS yet.
I have had many problems with my g4+ and it's replacement from Moto. On my first one I had a massive screen burn in issue, after 5 minutes of charging you could see the status bar icons when the status bar wasn't there. With the replacement, it kept bending so that if you put it on a flat surface only the top and bottom would be touching with the middle arcing upward about a millimeter. I also have had ghost touch issues on the replacement that happened whether or not it was charging. The only fix I found for that was to keep the brightness low. the G4+ is a fantastic phone for the price, if you can get one with no issues. As far as whether or not it is an upgrade from your Motorola Droid Turbo, here is a link to phone arena that compares the specs of the two phones (64 gigabyte models of each). I hope this helps you out, have a great day.
I have just purchased an used Moto G4 Plus XT1644 4GB + 64GB today at B&H Photo in excellent condition (10 out of 10), at least that's how they described it, for $138.50 shipped. It's arriving on Thursday. But I was not aware of these heating issues, screen burn in / ghost touches and so on... So now I'm kinda worried about my decision... My wife had an iPhone 6 and I converted her to a Moto G5 Plus about 3 to 4 months ago. She's very happy with the phone.
I only went with the G4 Plus because of the extra RAM, plenty storage space, external SD card reader and larger screen compared to the G5 Plus (*for the price I paid*). Most importantly, I bought the G4 Plus because it has ElementalX kernel, official Lineage OS support and TWRP as well. The combination of these three kept my Nexus 5 going for 3+ years before it gave up on me a few months ago. My N5 still works but it randomly shuts down and reboots when using demanding tasks like taking photos or when it heats up. As long as I can keep it frozen (out of the freezer - literally) it works just fine though. I've been using a crappy $60 Amazon Prime Exclusive phone, the Blu R1 HD on stock Marshmallow + Magisk / Xposed / Gravity Box / N-ify. Performance is fine considering what I paid for it. Thanks to the infamous fire.apk that plagued the R1 HD for months, I managed to get a full refund for that phone today. So I've got a free phone with malware basically.
I really wanted a 5.5" to 6" phone with good dev support on the cheap but as you know, both the G5 Plus / G5S Plus have a smaller 5.2" and very little dev support (compared to the G4 Plus). So I went with lower price, better dev support and slightly bigger screen on the G4 Plus.
What do you guys think?
@AndroidBR there's a dedicated thread if you are not sure which device you should buy https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179 please ask there.
Edit: the other thread about that https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
Edit 2: And this device forum has also a real life review sub forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/review awesome!
Edit 3: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/worth-buying-2017-t3604608 existing thread for this discussions
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@AndroidBR there's a dedicated thread if you are not sure which device you should buy https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179 please ask there.
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Thanks! But have you checked that page out? It's a very random, make a wish type of messages that no one cares to reply based on personal experience with the device. My post was in hopes of a feedback from people who currently own that device that I just bought. Because I was wondering if I should have invested more money on upgrading to the G5 Plus. "Worth the upgrade?" which I honestly think it's still on topic. If no one wants to take the time to entertain that thought it's fine. I just thought I'd share my own thoughts / reasoning behind my purchase of the G4 Plus instead of just "making a wish" that probably no one with answer objectively with authority on the subject. Get it?
Never mind. Bought a brand new G5 Plus 4+64 at Walmart for 154+tax. I think it's a better deal than the G4 Plus I purchased yesterday. I'll compare them both, particularly the screen size difference and max brightness. But I think you can't beat that price on a brand new phone.