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Android HU - Intel SoFIA CPU

Hi,
I am looking for a new Android HU for my Toyota Innova Crysta. I have almost zeroed in on Joying[JOYING NEWEST RAM 2GB ROM 32GB FACTORY CD PLAYER REPLACEMENT NEW ANDROID 5.1.1 LOLLIPOP SYSTEM PIP AUTO RADIO 7 INCH DOUBLE 2 DIN HD 1024*600 RESOLUTION HEAD UNIT UNIVERSAL CAR GPS RADIO BLUETOOTH 4.0 WIFI MIRROR LINK ENTERTAINMENT MULTIMEDIA SUPPORT OBD2] model.
However, while checking on the Processor, which is the Intel Atom 3GR SoFIA quad core processor, I was shocked to read that Intel has completely stopped production of these. Although the specs of the Joying box are quite appealing, when compared to the price/specs of other models based on Rockchip RK3188 processor, when comparing to the SoFIA Processor specs, it seems they are maxed out. Have the esteemed members of this forum come across Intel SoFIA based HUs? How do they rate performance wise, as compared to say a Rockchip RK3188 based unit? The Joying box specs do mention that rooting is possible. But after coming to know that it is no longer in production, I am wondering how much of a help rooting would be, if community support for the processor is no longer there.
Thanks in advance for your valuable feedback.
Cheers,
Ajay.

these are brand new, so not really much of a review out

I think I found what I am looking for in another thread. Sorry for a separate thread. Mods may choose this thread. Thank you.
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Most stable and plug'n'play head unit for my basic needs?

Hi guys. I'm looking for an Android head unit thats stable and pretty much plug'n'play.
I dont have alot of demands apart from the above so i'll just list the rest of them and hear if you guys got some suggestions on what to get.
The car i got is a 2008 Seat Leon.
"demands" list:
GPS (Maybe through google maps if possible since i like that gps)
Radio
Being able to hear music through spotify (on the device)
Being able to stream music from phone (through spotify etc)
Radio RDS (if possible?)
So is there anything out there for me?

Sure. Most will do that.
I recommend the newer Joying units with Intel CPU and 2 GB RAM. They're pretty fast.

if you want plug and play, get a unit specific for your vehicle. like @doitright said, the new Joying units are pretty great

You can go to mtcd intel 2gb (not joying). Same processor, same bt and wifi....different mcu but old and stable mcu (used on old mtcd rk3188 chipset based)
They are often cheaper than joying (perhaps less support but full covered by XDA forums)
You have to ensure it is intel and 2gb ram (never go to rk3188 1gb ram because it ia laggy and slow)
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ikerg said:
You can go to mtcd intel 2gb (not joying). Same processor, same bt and wifi....different mcu but old and stable mcu (used on old mtcd rk3188 chipset based)
They are often cheaper than joying (perhaps less support but full covered by XDA forums)
You have to ensure it is intel and 2gb ram (never go to rk3188 1gb ram because it ia laggy and slow)
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Do you have a link to these bro?

Ownice C500 octa core VS Joying 2GB

Hey all,
I am in the market for a new android head unit for my car (07' Civic Type R EU). I already purchased the Connects2 kit for fascia and to retain SWC control. I have read a lot of threads in this forum and as far as I understood all of the Chinese android units are almost the same except with different bugs and caveats. Currently I'm choosing between 7" universal 2GB Intel based from Joying (DE-JY-UM124 model) and Ownice C500 (DGS7002G?) with octa core (PX5?). Both of them are around the same price but even after reading through a lot of topics there is still not correct choice. A plus for PX5 would be the custom Malaysk's ROMs which provide quite a lot of fixes/additions to the unit.
I would mainly use the head unit for radio/BT audio/Spotify/etc, aftermarket rear camera and maybe DVR (I heard Ownice C500 has problems with turning on the rear view camera when in reverse?), GPS navigation. Would also try out ODBII capabilities and other options that the head unit would provide.
Which would be the best option (maybe something else would be better? I heard Malaysk bought from Dasaita, but they do not ship to Lithuania)?
Also, any suggestions before doing the purchase/installation? I bought a pack of small aluminium heatsink radiators as I was reading that Joying unit had some problems with dissipating heat, is the internal layout for PX5 Ownice C500 much different? Or does the unit not suffer from high temperatures and throttling?
Thank you in advance.

gesa26 said:
Hey all,
I am in the market for a new android head unit for my car (07' Civic Type R EU). I already purchased the Connects2 kit for fascia and to retain SWC control. I have read a lot of threads in this forum and as far as I understood all of the Chinese android units are almost the same except with different bugs and caveats. Currently I'm choosing between 7" universal 2GB Intel based from Joying (DE-JY-UM124 model) and Ownice C500 (DGS7002G?) with octa core (PX5?). Both of them are around the same price but even after reading through a lot of topics there is still not correct choice. A plus for PX5 would be the custom Malaysk's ROMs which provide quite a lot of fixes/additions to the unit.
I would mainly use the head unit for radio/BT audio/Spotify/etc, aftermarket rear camera and maybe DVR (I heard Ownice C500 has problems with turning on the rear view camera when in reverse?), GPS navigation. Would also try out ODBII capabilities and other options that the head unit would provide.
Which would be the best option (maybe something else would be better? I heard Malaysk bought from Dasaita, but they do not ship to Lithuania)?
Also, any suggestions before doing the purchase/installation? I bought a pack of small aluminium heatsink radiators as I was reading that Joying unit had some problems with dissipating heat, is the internal layout for PX5 Ownice C500 much different? Or does the unit not suffer from high temperatures and throttling?
Thank you in advance.
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Be careful. Ownice 500 is NOT px5.
Ownice is Allwinner octacore processor while px5 is rockchip.
Ownice community support is very low compared with mtcd units (px5 is mtcd based - mtcd is the mcu type)
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ikerg said:
Be careful. Ownice 500 is NOT px5.
Ownice is Allwinner octacore processor while px5 is rockchip.
Ownice community support is very low compared with mtcd units (px5 is mtcd based - mtcd is the mcu type)
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Ownice uses Mediatek a MT3561 (quad core) and MT3562 (octa core), no alwinner

What would be the best PX5 head unit then? At a similar price - around 300EU. 7inch, universal, preferably with physical buttons

gesa26 said:
What would be the best PX5 head unit then? At a similar price - around 300EU. 7inch, universal, preferably with physical buttons
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CHeck this model
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...32789102885.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.HyDcTk

ikerg said:
CHeck this model
htt ps://es.a liexpress.com/store/product/Dasaita-Android-6-0-Auto-Radio-Qcta-Core-7-Inch-2-DIN-Universal-Car-NO-DVD/600991_32789102885.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.HyDcTk
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As I mentioned previously - Dasaita doesn't ship to Lithuania :/

gesa26 said:
As I mentioned previously - Dasaita doesn't ship to Lithuania :/
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Sorry...I didnt remember that was you.
Ask to @hotaudio specifically if the shipping to Lithuania could be solved.
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Got my Joying yesterday after I got this advice from a friend: Intel knows how to sleep and will wake-up/boot in 2-3 seconds, which I confirm. Other units will take 30-40 seconds to boot-up. Plus the 3GB RAM. I was very surprised of the quality, especially the display.

Anonymou said:
Got my Joying yesterday after I got this advice from a friend: Intel knows how to sleep and will wake-up/boot in 2-3 seconds, which I confirm. Other units will take 30-40 seconds to boot-up. Plus the 3GB RAM. I was very surprised of the quality, especially the display.
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Is Not 3gb RAM... isn't it?
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ikerg said:
Is Not 3gb RAM... isn't it?
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Ikerg says the truth,
There is no Joying model with 3 Gb of ram and there are no Mediatek processors with the MT3561 and MT3562 characters. Ownice uses processors that are not Mediatek.
Even the MTCD head units with PX5 have a fast 2 second boot and the PX5 is really a fast processor.
Sincerely Ownice C500 is to be discarded, Joying is a good brand but the PX5 is more performing as a processor than Sofia.
At least I checked this out.

apollo1976 said:
Ikerg says the truth,
There is no Joying model with 3 Gb of ram and there are no Mediatek processors with the MT3561 and MT3562 characters. Ownice uses processors that are not Mediatek.
Even the MTCD head units with PX5 have a fast 2 second boot and the PX5 is really a fast processor.
Sincerely Ownice C500 is to be discarded, Joying is a good brand but the PX5 is more performing as a processor than Sofia.
At least I checked this out.
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I do totally agree
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Which Joying units have a PX5? Any universals?
I don't beleive Ownice should be discarded. The New Octacore seems to be working fine in all the right areas, and plenty of speed/capability. Granted only had a few days but I have tested almost every function satisfactorily (except DAB+)
For a car, refuse to have a unit with no volume rotary knob, as I don't have a car with steering wheel controls and I don't like the add ons.

velocity4 said:
Which Joying units have a PX5? Any universals?
I don't beleive Ownice should be discarded. The New Octacore seems to be working fine in all the right areas, and plenty of speed/capability. Granted only had a few days but I have tested almost every function satisfactorily (except DAB+)
For a car, refuse to have a unit with no volume rotary knob, as I don't have a car with steering wheel controls and I don't like the add ons.
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Joying does not manufacture any px5 . They bet for Intel sofia units.
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velocity4 said:
Which Joying units have a PX5? Any universals?
I don't beleive Ownice should be discarded. The New Octacore seems to be working fine in all the right areas, and plenty of speed/capability. Granted only had a few days but I have tested almost every function satisfactorily (except DAB+)
For a car, refuse to have a unit with no volume rotary knob, as I don't have a car with steering wheel controls and I don't like the add ons.
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What about this:
Dasaita Android 6.0 Auto Radio Octa Core 7 Inch 2 DIN Universal Car NO DVD player GPS Stereo Audio Head unit Support DAB DVR OBD
http://s.aliexpress.com/QVvMJzIR
(from AliExpress Android)
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I would buy the Dasaita one, I was in contact with @hotaudio as somehow the aliexpress store doesn't ship to Lithuania. One thing that bites me off is possible customs/VAT which could inflate the price to like 30% more than Joying unit from Germany

As a Joying Intel Sofia user I can only recommend the Joying brand and the Sofia units . Yes the quad core might be a bit low clocked but it's pretty fine for everything, GPS apps, music from various sources, and real time sound processing made by Viper. The onboard 32Gb of storage is more then generous and the 2Gb of RAM are very nice to have. The presence of GLONASS is more then welcome and a good addition for the city's with high buildings for a better GPS accuracy. Joying made the jump from Andoid 5 to 6 and they are working to polish it. There is a good community around the Intel Sofia with plenty of mods.
And the instant power on... oh man... I don't if I can live without it.

Can anyone confirm if the Octo-core C500 units now support RDS functions?

MugenSi said:
Can anyone confirm if the Octo-core C500 units now support RDS functions?
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The octa-core? yes it does, also the rear cam works if the radio is booting up

Flemischguy said:
The octa-core? yes it does, also the rear cam works if the radio is booting up
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All chinese units come with poor RDS support. Almost none of them really properly supports RDS-RT and almost none of them supports RDS-AF in the correct way.
Can you confirm that works correct on the Ownice Octa-core? Because that would really be a premium.

Flemischguy said:
The octa-core? yes it does, also the rear cam works if the radio is booting up
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So the station name automatically displays once a radio station is selected/tuned in??

MugenSi said:
So the station name automatically displays once a radio station is selected/tuned in??
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That is the RDS-PS function. All chinese units do that. It is the rest they lack and especially the incorrectly implemented AF sucks.

Is this a good radio head unit?

I'm thinking about installing this: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06Y5LBT2N into my 2009 Jetta TDI.
Are there any features I might be missing out on?

Roy360 said:
I'm thinking about installing this: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06Y5LBT2N into my 2009 Jetta TDI.
Are there any features I might be missing out on?
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Yes. 800x480 resolution (too low) and only 1gb ram. it seems to be an Intel sofia mtcd based unit. Avoid any android headunit with only 1gb ram like that.
I recommend a universal px5 mtcd based (2gb ram. 32gb ROM) like this
Dasaita 7" Android 6.0 Car GPS Player for 2 Din Universal with Octa Core 2GB Ram Auto Radio Multimedia GPS NAVI 4G LTE
http://s.aliexpress.com/bmmm6ZbQ
(from AliExpress Android)
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ikerg said:
Yes. 800x480 resolution (too low) and only 1gb ram. it seems to be an Intel sofia mtcd based unit. Avoid any android headunit with only 1gb ram like that.
I recommend a universal px5 mtcd based (2gb ram. 32gb ROM) like this
Dasaita 7" Android 6.0 Car GPS Player for 2 Din Universal with Octa Core 2GB Ram Auto Radio Multimedia GPS NAVI 4G LTE
http://s.aliexpress.com/bmmm6ZbQ
(from AliExpress Android)
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I was hoping to buy one from Amazon, so I could return it incase it's a dud.
But you might be right about the ram and resolution.
Does the unit you linked support TF card? Judging from the item description, it doesn't look like it does

Roy360 said:
I was hoping to buy one from Amazon, so I could return it incase it's a dud.
But you might be right about the ram and resolution.
Does the unit you linked support TF card? Judging from the item description, it doesn't look like it does
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Normally all units have sdcard slot....but in the case it doesn't it has three USB ports or how to this
Dasaita 6.2" Android 6.0 Car GPS DVD Player for Double 2 Din Universal with Octa Core 2GB Ram Auto Radio Multimedia NAVI 4G LTE
http://s.aliexpress.com/iuuERjYF
(from AliExpress Android)
Or to his 7inch
Dasaita Android 6.0 Auto Radio Octa Core 7 Inch 2 DIN Universal Car NO DVD Player GPS Stereo Audio Head Unit Support DAB DVR OBD
http://s.aliexpress.com/QVvMJzIR
(from AliExpress Android)
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I learned the hard way that 1GB of ram just doesn't cut it. Also be careful with the unit's sizing, a lot of the chinese ones are larger and require modifications to fit right.

ikerg said:
Yes. 800x480 resolution (too low) and only 1gb ram. it seems to be an Intel sofia mtcd based unit. Avoid any android headunit with only 1gb ram like that.
I recommend a universal px5 mtcd based (2gb ram. 32gb ROM) like this
Dasaita 7" Android 6.0 Car GPS Player for 2 Din Universal with Octa Core 2GB Ram Auto Radio Multimedia GPS NAVI 4G LTE
http://s.aliexpress.com/bmmm6ZbQ
(from AliExpress Android)
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breezeli said:
I learned the hard way that 1GB of ram just doesn't cut it. Also be careful with the unit's sizing, a lot of the chinese ones are larger and require modifications to fit right.
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Larger than what the item description says? Or just larger than the standard double dash format.

Larger than the usual din size

ikerg said:
Yes. 800x480 resolution (too low) and only 1gb ram. it seems to be an Intel sofia mtcd based unit. Avoid any android headunit with only 1gb ram like that.
I recommend a universal px5 mtcd based (2gb ram. 32gb ROM) like this
Dasaita 7" Android 6.0 Car GPS Player for 2 Din Universal with Octa Core 2GB Ram Auto Radio Multimedia GPS NAVI 4G LTE
http://s.aliexpress.com/bmmm6ZbQ
(from AliExpress Android)
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What do you think about this one:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071JBF5MX/
2GB of ram
1024*600
A quad core ARM cpu

If you want a properly commmunity supported headunit:
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...885.html?spm=a219c.12010608.0.0.5208143T6jna2
Is an OctaCore Processor [2GB RAM & 32GBROM].
Same FRontal as the one you posted and same dimensions....
This is claimed as 178mm*100mm as well as the one you posted.

ikerg said:
If you want a properly commmunity supported headunit:
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...885.html?spm=a219c.12010608.0.0.5208143T6jna2
Is an OctaCore Processor [2GB RAM & 32GBROM].
Same FRontal as the one you posted and same dimensions....
This is claimed as 178mm*100mm as well as the one you posted.
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Do you think it's the best option? Why? Is that possible to upgrade Android in the future?

Forevis said:
Do you think it's the best option? Why? Is that possible to upgrade Android in the future?
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Afaik .... Android 7 is coming on some weeks (currently under testing)
But why that need for continuous upgrading...if Everything works as expected (even with new phones and devices)...
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ikerg said:
Afaik .... Android 7 is coming on some weeks (currently under testing)
But why that need for continuous upgrading...if Everything works as expected (even with new phones and devices)...
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I'm thinking about upgradability for the product last years. I didn't know that it could upgrade.
I saw a tread about the Ownice C500, it's have a lot of comments, do you know if it's better? https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...d-units/ownice-c500-released-t3478747/page145

Forevis said:
I'm thinking about upgradability for the product last years. I didn't know that it could upgrade.
I saw a tread about the Ownice C500, it's have a lot of comments, do you know if it's better? https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...d-units/ownice-c500-released-t3478747/page145
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All units have their pros and cons....
What's real is that never the manufacturer/seller will get your issues solved.....the community yes.
IMHO I will get that unit with more community support
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ikerg said:
All units have their pros and cons....
What's real is that never the manufacturer/seller will get your issues solved.....the community yes.
IMHO I will get that unit with more community support
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Sorry, I'm lost. Which you think that have more community support? The Dasaita V600 ( https://m.es.aliexpress.com/s/item/...spm=a219c.12010608.0.0.5208143T6jna2#autostay ) or the Ownice 500 that have a support forum here in xda ( https://m.pt.aliexpress.com/s/item/...pm=a2g03.12010612.0.0.29bd38ccCCV5A0#autostay ).
Where is the community support for the Dasaita V600? Here in xda site?

Request help PX5 or PX6 Din 2 7`inch

hello, i want to buy a new radio, it may cost 300 euro should i buy a px5 or px6 ? it git so many, one can recommend me one ? i have found 3 pieces so far
1.JOYING Double 2 DIN Maps 4GB+64GB CPU Processor: SC-9853i 1,8 GHz Octa-core
2.Xtrons HEXA Core processor; 2+4 Core big.LITTLE architecture; 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM PX6
3rd Erisin ES8049U 7" ISP Display, DSP Sound, 8 Core PX5 Rockchip
Bluetooth 5 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM the erisin is the cheapest and has the best equipment but what about the quality ? does anyone already have this radio ?? for tips i am grateful
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Dudu37 said:
hello, i want to buy a new radio, it may cost 300 euro should i buy a px5 or px6 ? it git so many, one can recommend me one ? i have found 3 pieces so far
1.JOYING Double 2 DIN Maps 4GB+64GB CPU Processor: SC-9853i 1,8 GHz Octa-core
2.Xtrons HEXA Core processor; 2+4 Core big.LITTLE architecture; 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM PX6
3rd Erisin ES8049U 7" ISP Display, DSP Sound, 8 Core PX5 Rockchip
Bluetooth 5 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM the erisin is the cheapest and has the best equipment but what about the quality ? does anyone already have this radio ?? for tips i am grateful
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Xtrons Double DIN | Android 9.0 | Hexa Core | 4GB RAM & 64GB ROM | TQ109P
Great upgrade from my Xtrons TE103AP.
Has dvd player above the physical buttons which are located at the bottom of the unit. Display slides down to cover buttons if you want it too and also tilts forward or back depending on how you like it.
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