Hi,
I am looking for a new Android HU for my Toyota Innova Crysta. I have almost zeroed in on Joying[JOYING NEWEST RAM 2GB ROM 32GB FACTORY CD PLAYER REPLACEMENT NEW ANDROID 5.1.1 LOLLIPOP SYSTEM PIP AUTO RADIO 7 INCH DOUBLE 2 DIN HD 1024*600 RESOLUTION HEAD UNIT UNIVERSAL CAR GPS RADIO BLUETOOTH 4.0 WIFI MIRROR LINK ENTERTAINMENT MULTIMEDIA SUPPORT OBD2] model.
However, while checking on the Processor, which is the Intel Atom 3GR SoFIA quad core processor, I was shocked to read that Intel has completely stopped production of these. Although the specs of the Joying box are quite appealing, when compared to the price/specs of other models based on Rockchip RK3188 processor, when comparing to the SoFIA Processor specs, it seems they are maxed out. Have the esteemed members of this forum come across Intel SoFIA based HUs? How do they rate performance wise, as compared to say a Rockchip RK3188 based unit? The Joying box specs do mention that rooting is possible. But after coming to know that it is no longer in production, I am wondering how much of a help rooting would be, if community support for the processor is no longer there.
Thanks in advance for your valuable feedback.
Cheers,
Ajay.
these are brand new, so not really much of a review out
I think I found what I am looking for in another thread. Sorry for a separate thread. Mods may choose this thread. Thank you.
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I'm debating getting one of these two units.
https://www.carjoying.com/in-dash-g...gation-system-support-steering-wheel-con.html
http://www.in-dash.net/buy_en/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=188
So heres the dilemma. The joying one is a9 quad core, but only has 1 gig. Plus, while I know joying isn't high quality at least I've heard of them.
In-dash is octocore (which is really just a second set of pointless quads) a7 but 2 gis of ram.
I currently have a pugug dual core a9 with 1 gig.
Is the 2 gigs more helpful or the a9? Does anyone have experience with in-dash?
Can in root the joying or upload a newer version of android on the joying?
Any help would be appreciated!
Hello, Im pretty much like you so I've come to share the info that I've got so far
The Joying Units are the first to have Android 5.1.1 lollipop in about two weeks, this units also are under testing to have DAB and now have a cold boot time under 20 secs, you can see this on their youtube channel and facebook page, they have show everything and you can see most of the tests, also you can see many user videos with the 4.4.4 units and I ssume that in a few weeks we will see the ones with 5.1.1.
BUT this units are based on Rockchip RK3188 wich ONLY have SDK support up to android 4.4.4, Joying is doing Lollipop using a very old kernel and some pieces of RK3288 code as far as I know. so this is probably s fr s the RK3188 Units will get development wise, wich is a pitty becuse its a powerful enough chipset for car lo last long time
On the other side the InDsahnet units are using the Allwinner A83T (maybe at 2.0GHz top) Octa Core with 8 cortex A7 cores NOT 4A7+4A15, the A7 is low end vs the A9 middle end, but draws less power and produces less heat thant the A9, if well implemented this could mean longer standby times and less fan noise, the GPU is a PowerVR SGX544MP wich is a little bit faster than the Mali-400 of the RK3188, this will make difference only in newer GPS Software, the 2GB DDR3 of RAM should make good difference if you have/use many apps, this units are based on Android 4.4.4 but Android 5.1.1 is in the works with the great difference over Joying that Allwinner A83T has official 5.1.1 lollipop support and is powerful enough to have Marsmallow in the future, but so far indashnet has said that there are no plan for Android 6.0.1 yet. This Units re limited to 800x480 resolution if you get the 6.2 inches screen and 1024x600 ONLY if you get the 10.1 inches screen, wich for me is an overkill in size
And now the Big BUT... BUT so far I havent been able to find a real video, review or photo (the photos on their store are generic and low res), so, its leap of faith here for me, I would like to see youtube channel like Joying
Right now my advise is to wait if you can, see the Joying units videos nd reviews in a couple of weeks with lollipop and try to contact InDashnet with to ask for some videos... maybe if enough of us ask for it, they will put up a youtube channel like Joying
Another idea that has been in my head is to ask for new SoM's maybe Joying can fuly use an RK3288 wich supports 5.1.1 lollipop and many RK3188 HU users just need to buy a compatible SoM board with RK3288 and upgrade the software, this has been done before from the RK3066 to RK3188, but we need someone with expertise, Joying seems like the natural choice since they seems to be using 3288 code for the lollipop version of RK3188, for this we should contact Joying and show them tht there is a rel demand... thats what made them create the lollipop rom for the RK3188 in the first place
Finally let me tell you that there are a couple of FAR BETTER units on the chinese market, but they are hard to find here in Europe where I live, this are made by the manufacturer Flyaudio and use Quallcomm Snapdragon 400 (G8 series) and Snapdragon 801 (G9 series) Quad cores processors, this units can go to Quallcomm deep sleep and remain in standby mode for days, booting in a couple of seconds, this units can be seen on web stores and youtube videos and seem to work great.
BUT the stores so far are chinese wb stores or russian web stores, the chinesse web store is TaoBao, wich is actually the store from wich Aliexpress gets all its products, so I dont know why this units doesnt show on Aliexpress yet
I have ll the info and links, but cant post links until I have at least ten posts on the forum, I you want the, I'll send them to you
Hope this post was useful for you and others
Hi all, first time member here - sorry for any dumb questions.
I'm looking at getting my first android head unit. I don't have much criteria, but here is the list;
- 7" double DIN
- snappy boot time (2 - 3 seconds before playing music)
- nice looking - physically (don't like the joying logo or inset/bezel), and software (prefer the look of the latest android)
- video in for pi or dash cam
- bluetooth for calling and maps data (waze, etc). Or should i be looking at wifi tether?
At first, my research lead me to the following Xtrons units (basically searching whats popular on ebay);
- TB706PL (Octa-core RK3368 PX5, Android 6.0)
- TA701PL (Quad-core RK3188 PX3, Android 7.1)
- TL702P (Quad-core Intel Atom x86, Android 6.0)
Questions:
1. I've read a lot of posts on this site steering people to Joying HUs. Whats wrong with the Xtrons HUs?
2. Is the PX5 a big deal? Is octa core overkill for HUs? (I'm currently leaning to the PX3 over the PX5 due to later Android.)
3. Are all these units rootable?
4. Is there a likelihood of being able to upgrade the Android version of all of the head units in the future?
Thanks everyone!
Joying is the brand with the greatest hacker support.
You don't need to buy the UM135 with deep plastic bezel. You can also buy UM128, which is all glass.
Yes, it has a joying logo on the front too.
PX5 may have an 8 core SoC, but they are 8 SUPER WEAK SLOW TURDS. They are badly implemented A53's. So don't for ONE SECOND thing that you're getting something on the same level as a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835. You're looking at several orders of magnitude between the 8 turds and the 8 custom A73's in the QC.
Of all the CPUs available for car radios, the INTEL quad-core is the strongest. Ignore benchmarks, its a totally different architecture that you CANNOT compare with synthetic benchmarks.
As far as upgrade android version, Joying with Intel CPU is probably the most likely one for being able to upgrade to AOSP8.
i've never had an Xtrons. I have had Joying, Dasaita, and Seicane.
All have their pros and cons. The Joying definitely ran the best, and had the most updates, but it ran too hot and fried itself. Joying did replace it, which was cool.
However, i wanted something Jeep specific with a big screen, which Joying doesn't make, so I moved on to Dasaita with Android 6.0 and PX5:
https://youtu.be/ITCawVbBL7g
And i got the Seicane with Android 7.1.2 and PX3:
https://youtu.be/MWVsNWZjeCQ
The Dasaita is noticeably quicker than the Seicane but the Dasaita had 2 bugs I couldn't get past. The Dasaita would not recognize the MicroSD card from sleep. It would be fine from a full reboot, but from sleep it didn't recognize it, and the app switcher button would randomly disappear.
Seicane does not have those issues.
I think Xtrons and Dasaita are very similar, but not positive
Pf84mtv has any one got the original software?
Xtrons gave me a wrong firmware for my system and now my system lost the function of all its buttons and now they emailed me saying sorry they dont have the firmware? Can any one help
Looks like our friends at Joying released their PX5 units. They seem pretty snappy and some units even include a DVD unit ?. Question... Anyone bought yet? What amp chip are they using and is it better than the Intel ones? How would it compare to the Xtrons 4GB PX5 unit? Would that be better? Not familiar with their support of their units...
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Looks like our friends at Joying released their PX5 units. They seem pretty snappy and some units even include a DVD unit . Question... Anyone bought yet? What amp chip are they using and is it better than the Intel ones? How would it compare to the Xtrons 4GB PX5 unit? Would that be better? Not familiar with their support of their units...
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we also found the PX5 head unit .on their new website . I also do not know how to choose . but my friend said the CPU will be faster than Intel .
and can support more new features ? carplay , android auto ?
CandyLam111 said:
we also found the PX5 head unit .on their new website . I also do not know how to choose . but my friend said the CPU will be faster than Intel .
and can support more new features ? carplay , android auto ?
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Nah...the new px5 performance wise is a hair slower than the Intel. Still runs hot too. Plus with the custom ROM on the Intel units, way better. Google assistant works now, even Alexa.
And we have Xposed on the Intel units.
If you have to choose, go with the joying Intel unit I would say. And Android 8.0 on some of the newer units...what for? To slow things down? Maybe Android go...but not yet.
I know there are various threads open discussing various items, but I figured if anyone doesn't have an Oreo unit with 4GB of RAM, you might want to see how it looks.
This is Model number HA2162-V840-8 for a Jeep which has a 7 inch screen, 4GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, a Rockchip PX5 Octa-Core 64-Bit Coretex A53 processor, and runs Android 8.0 Oreo
https://youtu.be/xkD2B9ONxls
I think the Xtrons is similar, but I dont have that one, I just have the Dasaita, and @hotaudio frequently posts here
CadillacMike said:
I know there are various threads open discussing various items, but I figured if anyone doesn't have an Oreo unit with 4GB of RAM, you might want to see how it looks.
This is Model number HA2162-V840-8 for a Jeep which has a 7 inch screen, 4GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, a Rockchip PX5 Octa-Core 64-Bit Coretex A53 processor, and runs Android 8.0 Oreo
https://youtu.be/xkD2B9ONxls
I think the Xtrons is similar, but I dont have that one, I just have the Dasaita, and @hotaudio frequently posts here
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Hello,
I am thinking to change my old mtcb rk3188 1gb unit to a newer one. I am between dasaita hotaudio (7in 1024*600) and xtrons (6.2 in 800*400).
Are you still happy with the dasaita unit? Do you run a stock ROM w/o root, or a custom ROM?
Thanks in advance
p_mike83 said:
Hello,
I am thinking to change my old mtcb rk3188 1gb unit to a newer one. I am between dasaita hotaudio (7in 1024*600) and xtrons (6.2 in 800*400).
Are you still happy with the dasaita unit? Do you run a stock ROM w/o root, or a custom ROM?
Thanks in advance
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I am still running Dasaita, great product. Make sure you get one with 4GB of RAM
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I am still running Dasaita, great product. Make sure you get one with 4GB of RAM
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Hey Mike,
Are you still rocking the Dasaita?
I recently sold my car with my 2GB Joying Intel Sofia in it. It was an ok unit but a little sluggish at times and always seemed to have a Bluetooth disconnect/reconnect bug.
Looking for a replacement now and debating who to go with. Seems to be a toss up between Joying and Dasaita at the moment.
Looking for a 4gb/32gb universal 2din (with hardware buttons) I know from your previous posts that you have dabbled in a few of these units! What do you think is the best in your opinion?
fado5ster said:
Hey Mike,
Are you still rocking the Dasaita?
I recently sold my car with my 2GB Joying Intel Sofia in it. It was an ok unit but a little sluggish at times and always seemed to have a Bluetooth disconnect/reconnect bug.
Looking for a replacement now and debating who to go with. Seems to be a toss up between Joying and Dasaita at the moment.
Looking for a 4gb/32gb universal 2din (with hardware buttons) I know from your previous posts that you have dabbled in a few of these units! What do you think is the best in your opinion?
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I still have the Dasaita, running solid, no issues. Mine is the Jeep specific unit, here is an overview video:
https://youtu.be/xkD2B9ONxls
Hey I bought my first Android head unit for 2 month ago a Joying 10.1" IPS 1280*720 Android 8.1 4GB ram Intel octa core 1.8ghz SC9853i, I´m very happy for this headunit it works really great but I have some issues that annoy me a lot.
The speed of the android system on the joying unit is slow compared to my old Asus Nexus 7 2013 tablet, I had some greater expectation of performance because of the Intel octa core CPU 1.8 ghz, but maybe I have misunderstood something
Do any of you know if you can somehow tune up the reaction speed, the device feels slow compared to my old tablet ... Could I install another version of android that might make better use of the hardware?
Best regards Stig
I am having the same issue. Also, I am unable to run new TomTom Go navigation on the Joying radio.