Hey everyone,
I have the S8 International edition and I am currently using android pay to look after my touchy payments. I am toying with the idea of getting a gear S3 watch (if I can afford one) and that obviously only supports Samsung Pay.
Does anyone have any thoughts on Samsung Pay vs Android Pay and do you know in the UK if it is supported by Natwest? I have seen a few write ups containing the following "It currently supports payment networks including Visa and MasterCard, and cards issued by Santander, Nationwide and MBNA, with HSBC, First Direct, M&S Bank and American Express said to be joining soon." but this has no mention of Natwest in it at all :/
Any thoughts or opinions would be great
I recently looked into the difference and it seems like the big one is samsung pay also uses something called MST which mimics magnetics strips so it supposedly is capable of being used in more places you wouldn't ordinarily be able to use android/apple pay. Someone probably knows the differences a bit better than I do though.
MST is the only reason to use Samsung Pay other than the fact they give you cash back points regardless of what card you use. Only Samsung Pay has MST which basically means you can use it at ANY terminal which can read magnetic strips.
oplix said:
MST is the only reason to use Samsung Pay other than the fact they give you cash back points regardless of what card you use. Only Samsung Pay has MST which basically means you can use it at ANY terminal which can read magnetic strips.
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I am pretty sure that we don't use the MST technology in the UK anymore. I don't think the card machines have it now. I gathered that was the maim difference so doesn't really matter which service I use. Thanks for the info
strongylad28 said:
I am pretty sure that we don't use the MST technology in the UK anymore. I don't think the card machines have it now. I gathered that was the maim difference so doesn't really matter which service I use. Thanks for the info
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I think I've used it maybe once or twice in the last 10 years when the chip on my card was playing up. Infact MST is disabled in Samsung Pay UK, so it offers nothing over Android Pay.
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nathdogg said:
I think I've used it maybe once or twice in the last 10 years when the chip on my card was playing up. Infact MST is disabled in Samsung Pay UK, so it offers nothing over Android Pay.
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Haha , good old UK restrictions! In that case then the only "benefit" of it is that I could use it on a Gear S3 if I get one
Thanks everyone for the input!
strongylad28 said:
Haha , good old UK restrictions! In that case then the only "benefit" of it is that I could use it on a Gear S3 if I get one
Thanks everyone for the input!
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Correct.
Although if Samsung decides to offer rewards in the UK, that could be a good reason to use it over Android Pay. Google seem to have promotions every now and then, like the Christmas cracker Android Pay promotion. This I believe is how a particular service will "win" over the competition, especially here in the UK were they are all very similar.
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nathdogg said:
Correct.
Although if Samsung decides to offer rewards in the UK, that could be a good reason to use it over Android Pay. Google seem to have promotions every now and then, like the Christmas cracker Android Pay promotion. This I believe is how a particular service will "win" over the competition, especially here in the UK were they are all very similar.
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I've actually only been using Android Pay since I got the S8 as my last phone was the OP2 and it doesn't have NFC , so I haven't come across any offers or anything as of yet. Interesting thought though
For me, Samsung Pay is the biggest reason why I continue to purchase the Galaxy's. Since it uses MST tech, I'm able to pay with my phone at almost all locations I go to, including taxi's and delis in NYC that have old card machines. No NFC? No problem. I still get employees telling me "Our machines don't work paying with your phone", I still do it, it works, and they're like "What phone is that?".
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Howdy,
Full disclosure - I plan to cross post this thread of different Android forums, so don't get irritated with me!
A little back story - I've been an Iphone owner since the beginning and truly love the Apple ecosystem. However, I started to get downright bored with the phone and the restrictions placed upon it. I'm sorry but if you are not "allowed" to even custom change your SMS tone what does that say? Plus....I have an Ipad
Now, I have the Samsung Infuse (AT&T) and I love it. However, I one that likes to have the latest and greatest and am willing to pay the money for it. Also, if I am going to be locked into AT&T for at least 2 years, I want a phone that is future proof. Now, I know the Galaxy S2 is suppose to come out soon, however, I am currently in my 30 day window and may not be able to wait that long. Therefore, my plan is to by the Galaxy S2 while I still keep my Infuse and test them both over the next 30 days.
With that said, I have a couple of questions:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
Thank you all soooooooooooo kindly for helping me. I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.
angieutc said:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
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Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
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You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
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See 2.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
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It should be the same.
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
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I'm not your mother.
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
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Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
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Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.
BarryH_GEG said:
Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
It should be the same.
I'm not your mother.
Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.
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Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions
Purchased mine from Handtec, and it was shipped right after it was released in the UK. I can't see myself ever buying another AT&T branded & neutered/downgraded subsidized phone ever again.
The phone is simply awesome. In a sense, this is the first time I've felt a device *could* last me longer than the usual 1 year refresh cycle. Reason for this is simply because of its sheer processing power. For instance, I just revised my framework-res.apk file last night to have the browser ALWAYS load the desktop version of websites instead of the dumbed down mobile websites that both Android and Apple devices default to. I can actually do this and live with the performance because unlike other phones, desktop version of websites on the SGSII are no slower than the mobile/wap versions... they are as fast and fluid as viewing them on a notebook computer. And, this is even before the SGSII's hardware is properly supported as I believe the current Gingerbread 2.3.3 OS doesn't fully support dual core quite yet.
The only downfall I see is what I'm experiencing with my 2 buddies (previous IPhone users) that I talked into getting an SGSII. Don't get me wrong, they love the phone and would never see themselves going back to Apple. But, they now have to rely on me to do a lot of the tweaking for them because editing system files, decompiling/editing/compiling apks, flashing with Odin... they simply aren't comfortable with all that yet, especially since Apple handed them everything on a silver platter (to which they blindly accepted everytime). They'll get there, but for the time being, I've been labeled the local Android Guru/Master/Swamy/etc.
Other than those points, I echo Barry's feedback verbatim. And, I do hope your Mom is more attractive than Barry, I can barely stand the sight of him on a good day.
angieutc said:
Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions
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I was kidding with 6. It's obviously a personal decision. See if anyone that lives near you or in a city that you travel to will let you play with theirs. I love my phone, it's rock solid, and can't think of anything I'd want instead. But again, that's just a personal opinion.
You know what sucks about the new iPads?
The cell versions all ship with a T-Mobile SIM that includes 200MB a free data a month ongoing (at least no one's indicated how long this freebie will last)...
The Nexus 7 also ships with a T-Mobile SIM that gives you 200MB free...
For one month.
Thank you T-Mobile and **** you too.
I suggest everyone who got a Nexus 7 avoid or dump T-Mobile and let them know why.
Personally, I'm sick of 'iPhone/iPad plans' that either are exclusive to those devices - or are actually exactly the same plans as all their other data plans, just given a special name to cater to the self-indulgent Apple owners. I'm also tired of stores (I'm looking at YOU Best Buy) who have sections titled 'iPhones and Smartphones' and 'iPads and Tablets' as if iPhones and iPads were a special class unto themselves. They're not even the majority phones or tablets anymore. Get over it and stop treating your majority customers are second class citizens.
[And if you're wondering why I'm ticked about this since I'm not in the US? I travel to the US regularly - this would have given me a way to stay connected for free...]
It's not T-Mobile's fault you don't understand how business deals work here in the US, also your ignorance shows because T-Mobile is pretty much the best provider we have
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z0phi3l said:
It's not T-Mobile's fault you don't understand how business deals work here in the US, also your ignorance shows because T-Mobile is pretty much the best provider we have
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Wow - and you have no clue what being a consumer means. Really - if that's your defense of T-Mobile (and yes, there's something just wrong about a consumer who defends a company's business practices when they affect that consumer negatively) then that explains a lot about why corporations run pretty much everything down thre. But yeah, roll over and let the businesses do whatever they want *is* a pretty common mindset down there.
That being said, you know - if you protest to a business and make it clear that their decision will have negative impacts on their bottom line - they actually listen. Pity most people just assume they have to take what they're given...
Which is actually pretty ignorant.
No need to attack me, I get it you wanted a freebie and you can't get it, the only one I see is you having a problem, just stop trying to be cheap
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I don't know what you are thinking. The iPhone is the most common phone in the world and the iPad is the most common tablet. Android > iOS in market share but those two devices are at the top
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Apple simply does better business. They have products that they know consumers will buy. Their choices are "simple." Their OS is "simple". There are (now) four choices for an Apple tablet. But, even with the lowest choices people know exactly the experience that they are going to get. For Best Buy and T-Mobile or even any other wireless carrier, they know it is an easy sale. It's also easy for businesses to give incentives to buy said products. Businesses and consumers, in general, like simplicity. It's easy to back a simple product. It's easy to sell a simple product.
Businesses have a peace of mind knowing that regardless of what generation of Apple product they sell, Apple still fully supports it. When a product is phased out, also, businesses don't have to worry about what to do with all the excess; they simple just stop selling it (and probably send all extras back to Apple to deal with). That's simply not the case for any other product/manufacturer/business really.
As android users, more specifically XDA-members, we like the open OS, it offers a lot more customization and choice. To the rest of the consumers, the choices between Android devices is honestly overwhelming. That's not to mention the fact that most people don't know which version of the Android OS you are going to get on the various tablets. On top of that, which "Skin" or experience they get when they purchase an Android tablet (or in our case, as N7 owners, no "Skin" at all).
If you have any questions on your specific android device where can you physically go to get the dedicated support that you get from an Apple store? People pay a premium for that and the comfort that knowing regardless of where they bought the product they can take it into the Apple store to get assistance. If we have issue with our devices, we are left to fend for ourselves, trying to find resolutions for our issues completely on our own.
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You know what sucks about the new iPads?
The cell versions all ship with a T-Mobile SIM that includes 200MB a free data a month ongoing (at least no one's indicated how long this freebie will last)...
The Nexus 7 also ships with a T-Mobile SIM that gives you 200MB free...
For one month.
Thank you T-Mobile and **** you too.
I suggest everyone who got a Nexus 7 avoid or dump T-Mobile and let them know why.
Personally, I'm sick of 'iPhone/iPad plans' that either are exclusive to those devices - or are actually exactly the same plans as all their other data plans, just given a special name to cater to the self-indulgent Apple owners. I'm also tired of stores (I'm looking at YOU Best Buy) who have sections titled 'iPhones and Smartphones' and 'iPads and Tablets' as if iPhones and iPads were a special class unto themselves. They're not even the majority phones or tablets anymore. Get over it and stop treating your majority customers are second class citizens.
[And if you're wondering why I'm ticked about this since I'm not in the US? I travel to the US regularly - this would have given me a way to stay connected for free...]
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..what in the hell are you complaining about. t-mobile is giving out 200mb for free for EVERYBODY, whether you're signed up with them or not. it just happens to be bundled with the new ipads, but you can walk into a tmobile store and get 200mb for free regardless of your device. for life.
source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/23/4947704/t-mobile-makes-free-ipad-data-offer-official
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Chillllllll......
This offer is good for ALL tablets. Someone asked that on their Twitter feed.
And the problem goes away..
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/23/t-mobile-200mb-free-data-for-tablets/
All tablets are now eligible for it.. and T-Mobile will be selling Nexus 7 LTEs in their stores as of November.
So much for 'business plans' and living with what you get.
Thank you T-Mobile.
As for some of the comments... now I see why Apple is so popular... the sheep aren't all iSheep...
Cheers.
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..what in the hell are you complaining about. t-mobile is giving out 200mb for free for EVERYBODY, whether you're signed up with them or not. it just happens to be bundled with the new ipads, but you can walk into a tmobile store and get 200mb for free regardless of your device. for life.
source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/23/4947704/t-mobile-makes-free-ipad-data-offer-official
#readbeforeyoufreak
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Well, I've been going back and forth as to whether to get the LTE Nexus 7 or not. This pretty much clears that issue up.
TheWerewolf said:
And the problem goes away..
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/23/t-mobile-200mb-free-data-for-tablets/
All tablets are now eligible for it.. and T-Mobile will be selling Nexus 7 LTEs in their stores as of November.
So much for 'business plans' and living with what you get.
Thank you T-Mobile.
As for some of the comments... now I see why Apple is so popular... the sheep aren't all iSheep...
Cheers.
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The problem didn't "go away", it wasn't a problem in the first place. All tablets were eligible for it from the start. They just chose to announce it with the iPad since a)the new iPads were just announced and they piggybacked on that hype, and b)iPad is by far the best selling tablet, and c)the iPad will be the first available with this feature. Once additional details came out, it became apparent that other tablets would be included, including Nexus 7, but they won't be available for a month from now.
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And the problem goes away..
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/23/t-mobile-200mb-free-data-for-tablets/
All tablets are now eligible for it.. and T-Mobile will be selling Nexus 7 LTEs in their stores as of November.
So much for 'business plans' and living with what you get.
Thank you T-Mobile.
As for some of the comments... now I see why Apple is so popular... the sheep aren't all iSheep...
Cheers.
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There was never a problem in the first place. You got excited because Apple announced something before T-Mobile formally announced it, and proceeded to attack anyone in this thread who didn't agree with your perception.
I think this is an interesting deal, and can definitely be an important feature for those debating whether to purchase an LTE or wi-fi tablet. Assuming you used the tablet for only 1 year, the price difference of $100 between the 32GB wifi and LTE versions amounts to paying $8.33 a month for a 200mb plan.
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As for some of the comments... now I see why Apple is so popular... the sheep aren't all iSheep...
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I don't know why you think you are entitled to be so rude. We are sheep because we understand businesses and business decisions?
You really need to chill before you jump to any further conclusions. You already made yourself look ridiculous three times in this thread...
TheWerewolf said:
You know what sucks about the new iPads?
The cell versions all ship with a T-Mobile SIM that includes 200MB a free data a month ongoing (at least no one's indicated how long this freebie will last)...
The Nexus 7 also ships with a T-Mobile SIM that gives you 200MB free...
For one month.
Thank you T-Mobile and **** you too.
I suggest everyone who got a Nexus 7 avoid or dump T-Mobile and let them know why.
Personally, I'm sick of 'iPhone/iPad plans' that either are exclusive to those devices - or are actually exactly the same plans as all their other data plans, just given a special name to cater to the self-indulgent Apple owners. I'm also tired of stores (I'm looking at YOU Best Buy) who have sections titled 'iPhones and Smartphones' and 'iPads and Tablets' as if iPhones and iPads were a special class unto themselves. They're not even the majority phones or tablets anymore. Get over it and stop treating your majority customers are second class citizens.
[And if you're wondering why I'm ticked about this since I'm not in the US? I travel to the US regularly - this would have given me a way to stay connected for free...]
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WRONG, T-Mobile is offering this to the Nexus 7, I-Pads and the Samsung pad. Sometimes people should read before they make dumb statements. IMO T-Mobile is the best Carrier on the planet. For a very small Carrier they have exploded in their expansion of towers both in the 1900 and LTE radios. This time next year T-Mobile will have taken over 3rd place. Thank You T-Mobile.
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So much for 'business plans' and living with what you get.
Thank you T-Mobile.
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Please clarify. Because the way it's written (admittedly fairly vague), it can be construed that you think your OP (8 hrs before this post) somehow caused a ripple that changed the entire way TMobile does business, and now you are thanking them for responding. And somehow in addition to congratulating yourself for changing the world, you've also turned the entire imagined event into fuel for a silly brandwar.
Looks like we now have official model number, rumors confirmed SM-N910P
www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910PZKESPR
...anybody get any responses yet from the pre-registration?
I have not yet. I even check the spam box.
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I have not yet. I even check the spam box.
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Right. I'm hoping, since sprint supposedly is the only carrier that currently has signed up for VR and Note 4, that they do some sort of deal on the two for early adopters.
Can't wait for this. My s3 needs to be retired
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I'm only seeing black and white colors
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I'm only seeing black and white colors
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You wanted the pink?
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You wanted the pink?
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Bronze Gold
evolone said:
Right. I'm hoping, since sprint supposedly is the only carrier that currently has signed up for VR and Note 4, that they do some sort of deal on the two for early adopters.
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I suspect we won't see any notifications till October. My guess, the phone will probably release around mid-October and they'll start preorders about two weeks prior to release. The good news is that since Samsung has a page on the variant and a model number, It probably going through the FCC review, if not already, and supports an October release.
As the VR headset, I'm not sold on it. I think it'll be interesting device, but I think it'll be very limited in support. I just can't see it having a large enough install base to make it popular for a lot developers to devote time to develop or modify applications for it. And the $200US price tag seems high for a device that may so limited. It's only usable, as we know thus far, just on the phone. No external power source, so just your phone's battery. No way to use with your PC for those games. In fact, there was an article I read that showed that getting an Octulus for the PC was cheaper than the Note 4 and VR. If they throw it in free, I'll get one. If it was $50 or less, most likely, over $100, not likely.
Plus, I wonder how the VR works. I have issues--lazy eye and colorblindness--so I have no idea if it'll work for me. The new 3D technology does not work at all for me. I have 3D TV and Playstation3, and got the active 3D glasses to check out. The 3D did not work at all. I only saw a lower resolution picture since the 3D tech uses one's cross reference between the two eyes to create the depth perception. I use one eye significant more over the other. There's a reason why I've taken a few baseballs to the throat; yes it hurt. So, on the top of the support, you can understand my skepticism for my own potential experience with it.
I'm actually more curious about the S Gear in regards to the US or Sprint. I think that may be more a more useful device. I would have preferred it to run Android, or Android Wear. I like the hardware it's bringing, and hope it'll bring manufactures to do similar. My other concerns with it, will it work with devices that do not have TouchWiz? What about the glass? Is it crystal like a good watch, or some kind of gorilla glass. Watches tend to get scratched if they're any kind of glass. If they have some kind of bundle where they offer the Gear S on the cheap side, say about $100, I would probably go with something like that.
Ah, it's exciting times for new toy(s).
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As the VR headset, I'm not sold on it. I think it'll be interesting device,...
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It'll probably work for you since the device shows both eyes live feed (no shutter/no anaglyph). Also there are a bunch of programs that allow you stream PC games to the phone. They are not samsung supported/designed products but they do work (TriDef3D for example, there are also a bunch of android games that support the splitview 3D) I currently have a note 2 and built a custom "google cardboard" vr headset and it works great but the resolution is not so great. So, at least for me, I am accustomed to this type of headset and enjoy it quite a bit for games like Skyrim. In short, you can do everything with an android phone (any of them) that you can do with the Oculus, as there is software and hardware (DIY for most, but we have Galaxy VR now) that supports it.
Also, all US variants of the Note 4 have passed FCC as of a few days ago.
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... Also, all US variants of the Note 4 have passed FCC as of a few days ago.
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that is excellent news. I hadn't heard Verizon and a couple other hadn't going through yet, but ATT and Sprint had.
And if what you say is true about the VR and my vision, that would be excellent. There's nothing like handing over the 3D glasses to my mother and asking, "is this working? Do you see a 3D picture" And her response, "yes, and it's so cool. wow look at the sky.." it should be noted, this has been the case with most 3D stuff such as 3D rides. The old 3D tech with the blue and red paper glasses worked a little bit, but I've never had that in your face image coming out of the screen. The sad part, if it actually works and does so well, I would probably buy just because of that fact.
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
SptMogul said:
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm just going on what I've observed in the past. I've never noticed any savings during holiday season/black friday on phones (maybe the lower end / not as popular ones to get more subscriptions) but the newly released high-end phones usually don't get discounts (the year old Note 3 probably will get a liquidation price). I thought that's why manufacturers released phones around this time of the year is because people "have money" or are willing to spend less frugally than other times in the year, meaning full price on the phone. If you're buying the phone without subscription discount (~$800), the full price/non-contract phone might be discounted during the holidays.
SptMogul said:
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
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If you want to wait, why not wait. What's the worst that will happen? You won't get the phone on release day?
evolone said:
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm just going on what I've observed in the past. I've never noticed any savings during holiday season/black friday on phones (maybe the lower end / not as popular ones to get more subscriptions) but the newly released high-end phones usually don't get discounts (the year old Note 3 probably will get a liquidation price). I thought that's why manufacturers released phones around this time of the year is because people "have money" or are willing to spend less frugally than other times in the year, meaning full price on the phone. If you're buying the phone without subscription discount (~$800), the full price/non-contract phone might be discounted during the holidays.
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A quick search showed that a number of popular phones were discounted during Black Friday the past 2 years.
http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/shopping/2013/best-black-friday-samsung-galaxy-note-3-deals/
http://dealnews.com/features/black-friday/predictions/smartphones/
If I could have held out on my upgrade. Got the S5 a week after release nowni want the note4 lol maybe I could just sell myS5 and my old S3 and get it
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I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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droidrev71 said:
I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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thearch1tect said:
If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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Isn't that one throttled (optimized)? I think the Framily isn't. On Verizon I can swap my SIM around into any phone with no issues at any time. Can you do that with Sprint too?
droidrev71 said:
Isn't that one throttled (optimized)? I think the Framily isn't. On Verizon I can swap my SIM around into any phone with no issues at any time. Can you do that with Sprint too?
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I don't believe it is throttled. The framily plan doesn't exist anymore. The new family plans are called family share pack and they have a bucket of 20gb that you share so not unlimited.
The quickest way to swap phones on sprint is by logging into your account and entering the imei of the new phone. Takes just a minute or two but not as simple as swapping sims.
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thearch1tect said:
I don't believe it is throttled. The framily plan doesn't exist anymore. The new family plans are called family share pack and they have a bucket of 20gb that you share so not unlimited.
The quickest way to swap phones on sprint is by logging into your account and entering the imei of the new phone. Takes just a minute or two but not as simple as swapping sims.
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I just actually read in the fine print that the bandwidth is optimized. There are still Framily plans they just aren't advertised. Thanks for the SIM swap info that helps cause a person at Sprint said I needed to come in the Swype.
They are offering Galaxy S7 Edge for 600.00€ (£439.85) and with a Gear VR http://itcomputes.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-32gb-black
They accept paypal only for orders above 3000€, for single mobile they accept credit card or money gram. http://itcomputes.com/payment-methods
Any experience with this online shop?
Thanks a lot in advance
Looks shady to me!
Searched around, could only find one review of the site on Trustpilot which looked like it was written by the owner of the site. No other information anywhere, except an address in Canada on Google Maps (which is probably unrelated).
Indeed, so unless somebody has a good experience so I'm staying away. The price is too good to be true and without paypal guarantee it is risky. Thanks for the reply.
Edit: this is the company but it does not tell anything http://ukdata.com/company/07516260/...&postcode=BL3+6LS&details-button=View+Details
samitro said:
Indeed, so unless somebody has a good experience so I'm staying away. The price is too good to be true and without paypal guarantee it is risky. Thanks for the reply.
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Good thinking. I did spot that they have a price of £0 on one specific iPhone model...
jamesj999 said:
Good thinking. I did spot that they have a price of £0 on one specific iPhone model...
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yes you can get as many as you want for free
I never receive my iPhone from them. They take my money and it is the and of story
Never buy from itcomputes.com
Iphone 6s
Helloy! Dont oldered nothing this company.they are scammers!
Hello everyone. I currently have a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and love my phone and what it does. I almost never use the stylus on it so that feature isn't important to me. I've been reading up on the Nexus 6p for months now and with tax returns coming up was thinking of biting the bullet and getting one to swap out my Note 4 for. Before I do that though I wanted to get some feedback from others regarding buying used vs new (if possible), the state of development on a device that's as old as it is (development seems to be going pretty solid from the glimpse into the development threads) and general information regarding the phone and if it's a good idea to make the switch. I use my phone for EVERYTHING. It's the houses WiFi which is extremely important but I don't pay for hotspot usage. Is that unlocked on the ROMs for the Nexus 6p?
Please, any and all input is welcome. I've had this phone for a long time and would like to get my hands on something new (even if it's a phone around the same age). Thank you.
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It's a developers phone so development will always be strong on a nexus phone.
However there are a lot of hardware faults currently known with this phone and as such you shouldn't buy a used one as you won't get the warranty support from google/huawei. And you cannot buy them new anymore due to google releasing their pixel range.
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It's a developers phone so development will always be strong on a nexus phone.
However there are a lot of hardware faults currently known with this phone and as such you shouldn't buy a used one as you won't get the warranty support from google/huawei. And you cannot buy them new anymore due to google releasing their pixel range.
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So if I can find a new one I should go that route? Although Google released the Pixel and pulled them from their store I have seen them in retail stores like Best Buy still (rarely). Buying from a store should still give me a warranty through the store and manufacturer if even for a short period of time shouldn't it?
Thank you for the response.
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So if I can find a new one I should go that route? Although Google released the Pixel and pulled them from their store I have seen them in retail stores like Best Buy still (rarely). Buying from a store should still give me a warranty through the store and manufacturer if even for a short period of time shouldn't it?
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I would absolutely buy new if you can find one in the capacity that you need. I see BB selling the 32GB version which would be too small for me. The brick and mortar store route would be the safest from a warranty perspective, otherwise it will just be covered by the manufacturer's warranty which from all accounts appears to be really piss poor. Hotspot has always worked well on my device running the stock rom (AT&T).
Also, Newegg still has them in stock. They have a mix of 32, 64, and 128 directly sold by newegg, Brand New. You just have to make sure its shipped and sold by Newegg when purchasing. I purchased mine from Newegg in March
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I would absolutely buy new if you can find one in the capacity that you need. I see BB selling the 32GB version which would be too small for me. The brick and mortar store route would be the safest from a warranty perspective, otherwise it will just be covered by the manufacturer's warranty which from all accounts appears to be really piss poor. Hotspot has always worked well on my device running the stock rom (AT&T).
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I would need at least 64GB since I use my SD card a LOT. I assumed hotspot worked but since I don't pay for hotspot on my plan (most on xda with Sprint note 4 don't) it needs to be unlocked/modded within the ROM somewhere or an app like GalaxyTools needs to be used on the Note 4 in order to use it. Is that not a thing with the Nexus 6p?
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Also, Newegg still has them in stock. They have a mix of 32, 64, and 128 directly sold by newegg, Brand New. You just have to make sure its shipped and sold by Newegg when purchasing. I purchased mine from Newegg in March
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Awesome, thank you. I didn't think about them.
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I would need at least 64GB since I use my SD card a LOT. I assumed hotspot worked but since I don't pay for hotspot on my plan (most on xda with Sprint note 4 don't) it needs to be unlocked/modded within the ROM somewhere or an app like GalaxyTools needs to be used on the Note 4 in order to use it. Is that not a thing with the Nexus 6p?
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The hotspot has never been an issue on AT&T on the N6P. Someone else will have to confirm whether or not it works on Sprint.
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The hotspot has never been an issue on AT&T on the N6P. Someone else will have to confirm whether or not it works on Sprint.
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I think we may be talking about different things. I'm sure hotspot works without issue. AT&T gives hotspot data on their plans though, Sprint does not (well it does but it's super small). In order to use hotspot without paying for their plan there is a modification done within the ROM (not sure exactly where) that changes the way the hotspot data is reported to the carrier, it shows as regular data instead of hotspot data. I refuse to pay their insane pricing for hotspot usage when I already have unlimited data so having free usage of hotspot is extremely important. If that isn't something done in the Nexus 6p ROMS I made have to skip the phone sadly. Hopefully a Sprint user will come along and weigh in.
I greatly appreciate your input though. The lack of availability on new versions of this phone may put the nail in the coffin unfortunately, we shall see though. Thanks again.
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So if I can find a new one I should go that route? Although Google released the Pixel and pulled them from their store I have seen them in retail stores like Best Buy still (rarely). Buying from a store should still give me a warranty through the store and manufacturer if even for a short period of time shouldn't it?
Thank you for the response.
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You could go to Fi.google.com, sign up for their cheapest plan ($30/mo) and get one (I'm assuming new and get the warranty). You could cancel the Project Fi service after one month.
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You could go to Fi.google.com, sign up for their cheapest plan ($30/mo) and get one (I'm assuming new and get the warranty). You could cancel the Project Fi service after one month.
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Not a terrible idea. Just pull the SIM out and use the sprint one I would need to order. Curious about the hotspot dilemma though. Seeing a lot of results with people needing the carrier provided hotspot plan with this phone and not so much saying otherwise. I use 200-250GB of data a month so paying for that would be insane.
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you cannot buy them new anymore due to google releasing their pixel range.
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If you mean new as in from the Play Store, then yes, you are correct. Third party vendors still sell them, though. I bought my brand new in box 128GB 6P from B&H Photo in December 2016 for $549, so it is very possible to buy them new, just not from the Play Store.
Amazon still sells them too, but I would be very weary about ordering from them. I originally ordered my phone from them, but they sent me the wrong color/storage size. The brown box they shipped it in was pristine when it arrived at my house, but the actual white box with the phone in it looked like a dog had chewed on it before they packed it...
You can still buy them new on Amazon as well and you get the one year warranty from Huawei. But definitely don't buy one used. You need the warranty, just in case.
I have a sprint service. If you do not pay for Hotspot, Hotspot cannot be turned on.
But, I have heard that you can if you are rooted, not tested.
There are also apps which let you and are quite popular.
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I have a sprint service. If you do not pay for Hotspot, Hotspot cannot be turned on.
But, I have heard that you can if you are rooted, not tested.
There are also apps which let you and are quite popular.
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Would you be willing to test a build.prop change for me to see if it'll work or are you not rooted?
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If you mean new as in from the Play Store, then yes, you are correct. Third party vendors still sell them, though. I bought my brand new in box 128GB 6P from B&H Photo in December 2016 for $549, so it is very possible to buy them new, just not from the Play Store.
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Looks like they've discontinued the 128GB on B&H Photo but the 64GB is still on there. May go down that route. Thank you for the site name.
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Would you be willing to test a build.prop change for me to see if it'll work or are you not rooted?
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Sorry not rooted but the apps should work. Search Google, many have almost five star ratings. It will be easier if you do not plan to root.
TOTALLYHUMAN said:
Sorry not rooted but the apps should work. Search Google, many have almost five star ratings. It will be easier if you do not plan to root.
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I always root my phone (been a necessity in the past, maybe not going forward though). Phones aren't cheap though and I have to be able to provide hotspot for my house so I've got to get confirmation from someone on Nexus 6P before I go down the route of getting a phone. Appreciate the input though, I'll take a look into the apps.
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Looks like the build.prop editing on this phone just needs the bootloader unlocked from what I'm reading. That's very different but this is a completely different manufacturer than I'm used to.
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Looks like they've discontinued the 128GB on B&H Photo but the 64GB is still on there. May go down that route. Thank you for the site name.
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What color are you looking for? Only black, silver, and white went up to 128GB. If you're looking to buy a gold 6P, they're only available in 32 or 64 gigs.
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What color are you looking for? Only black, silver, and white went up to 128GB. If you're looking to buy a gold 6P, they're only available in 32 or 64 gigs.
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Black is what I wanted, would have settled for silver. Pretty sure 128GB just wasn't available on B&H
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So here's the thing, there is definitely Hotspot functionality. It will work with sprint 100%. The question is not if the Hotspot functionality will work or not, but if you will be able to turn it on without the carrier charging you. If it has worked before, then it should work.
Also, you said you root your phone. What things do you use root for. I know some apps are root only, but what are the benefits of rooting? Am thinking about it