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How is latest HTC update incorporated into ROMs ?

How is the latest HTC update incorporated into ROMs, specifically non-Sense based ROMs ? I think with Sense-based ones, it's somewhat easier, but for Cyanogen-based ones, I'm completely clueless.
Main reason I ask is because of the silent-call issue. It's supposedly fixed with this update (I don't know for sure though) and it would be real nice to have it incorporated into the CM ROMs. I was hoping that running a CM ROM would avoid this issue, but alas, it doesn't.

hallstevenson said:
How is the latest HTC update incorporated into ROMs, specifically non-Sense based ROMs ? I think with Sense-based ones, it's somewhat easier, but for Cyanogen-based ones, I'm completely clueless.
Main reason I ask is because of the silent-call issue. It's supposedly fixed with this update (I don't know for sure though) and it would be real nice to have it incorporated into the CM ROMs. I was hoping that running a CM ROM would avoid this issue, but alas, it doesn't.
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i have yet to have any silent call at all on any rom i have ever flashed

When I was running Sense-based ROMs, it was getting to the point that I was ready to return my phone to VZW. When I switched to CM5 ROMs, it was much improved, but still happened on occasion.

hallstevenson said:
When I was running Sense-based ROMs, it was getting to the point that I was ready to return my phone to VZW. When I switched to CM5 ROMs, it was much improved, but still happened on occasion.
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wish i could offer advice but ive yet to experience it

I'm beginning to think that the silent issue is user error. Maybe a setting or am app that some people use or something. I have never had the issue and I have tested just about every rom.
Sorry off topic.
Sent from my KaosFroyoEris

Speculation is that the new radio may be the "silent call" bugfix. Flash that & see if it helps.
Sent from my Eris using XDA App

PPCGeek01 said:
Speculation is that the new radio may be the "silent call" bugfix. Flash that & see if it helps.
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That "new" radio has been available from Sprint for more than a few weeks, if not longer, and I can personally attest that it does NOT fix the issue.

i have noticed this issue with my gfs phone. when she answers her phone no one can hear her. shes had this problem on several different roms. i however haven't on any...

I can confirm that the latest fix pushed from VZN has fixed the no-audio bug on my wife's Eris. She was rebooting multiple times a day, and has not since the update!
The real question is can I safely root and load EvilEris 3.0 now without losing the fix??

dman776 said:
The real question is can I safely root and load EvilEris 3.0 now without losing the fix??
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I think the answer to that is "no".

listyb01 said:
I'm beginning to think that the silent issue is user error. Maybe a setting or am app that some people use or something.
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Too many people have changed the same setting or added the same app then.... And if that many people have done the same thing "wrong", it still warrants a fix from VZW or HTC.

Havent had the problem with PlainJane2.0, will report if I do though

I've been running non-Sense ROMs since I rooted and haven't had the silent bug yet. I had it a few times after the 2.1 OTA, but nothing since running White Widow 4.5 and now CELB 2.8... hopefully it stays that way

DDustiNN said:
I've been running non-Sense ROMs since I rooted and haven't had the silent bug yet. I had it a few times after the 2.1 OTA, but nothing since running White Widow 4.5 and now CELB 2.8... hopefully it stays that way
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If you're like me, you just jinxed yourself. I said the same thing -- had the same experience -- for a good while after switching to CM-based ROMs. I posted this and bam ! Started experiencing it again...

hallstevenson said:
I think the answer to that is "no".
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I can confirm this. The EvilEris 3.0 ROM does not include this bug fix and the bug is still present. The bug ceased for me until I rooted my phone and installed the EvilEris 3.0 ROM.

No one ? The original question still has me wondering....

hallstevenson said:
No one ? The original question still has me wondering....
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I have been experimenting with the files from the MR4 update in a few ROMs that I have built but I still can not seem to get them to "take". I am not sure if the update is in build.prop or one of the other files included in MR4. I am still looking for any good documentation on how to cook the update in to my ROMs.

There are folks who know how to do it, but I don't know if it's documented anywhere.

Every rom i have used that was made without the July patch has done the glitch. Now that im on a rom with the patch i havent had an issue. Sucks cause i was loving Sense-able, but im getting use to Xtr

SCato said:
Every rom i have used that was made without the July patch has done the glitch. Now that im on a rom with the patch i havent had an issue. Sucks cause i was loving Sense-able, but im getting use to Xtr
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I know Sense-Able is Sense-based, but is XTR ? If a ROM is not Sense-based or if it's ported from another (HTC) phone without the issue, and therefore no patch has been made, I wonder if it can be incorporated.

New EVO 4g

Just got a new EVO 4g after my old one was failing. Is it still possible to root these newer EVO 4gs? What is the easiest way to root & easiest way to put the phone back to stock if need be? Ive been using sense & it just seems like crap compared to ROMs & it seems like sense eats battery life alive...lol

Pivo187 said:
Just got a new EVO 4g after my old one was failing. Is it still possible to root these newer EVO 4gs? What is the easiest way to root & easiest way to put the phone back to stock if need be? Ive been using sense & it just seems like crap compared to ROMs & it seems like sense eats battery life alive...lol
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Yes, it's still possible to root the EVO. Check out the link below for more info. As far as not liking Sense-based ROM's, you can always go the AOSP route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674547
Sent from my EVO LTE

Well what is the best way to root as far as easiest and most effective? Also, as far as going back to stock which rooting method makes that easy as well? What is currently one of the best ROMs for EVO 4g as far as reliability & everything working 100% gps, calls, text, net, etc

Pivo187 said:
Well what is the best way to root as far as easiest and most effective? Also, as far as going back to stock which rooting method makes that easy as well? What is currently one of the best ROMs for EVO 4g as far as reliability & everything working 100% gps, calls, text, net, etc
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Without knowing what software version you're on, the first part of your question is hard to answer. As for the second question, what may be the best ROM for one user may not be the best for another, so it's up to you to decide which ROM works best by trying a few out.
Sent from my EVO LTE

Thanks for the reply FinZ28. How can I check my software version? As far as the best ROM I meant generally speaking the top 3 most popular?

Go to Menu>Settings>About phone to find your software version. As far as "most popular", I can't really help you there. There are too many choices and I haven't flashed a ROM on a OG EVO in awhile.
Sent from my EVO LTE

Ok it says android version 2.3.5 baseband 2.15.00.01.15 kernel 2.6.35.10-g8b16b68 [email protected]#1 Is there any other info you need Fin?

Pivo187 said:
Ok it says android version 2.3.5 baseband 2.15.00.01.15 kernel 2.6.35.10-g8b16b68 [email protected]#1 Is there any other info you need Fin?
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Use the method in the link below:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...gerbread-2-3-5-dummies-guide.html#post3847599
Sent from my EVO LTE

FinZ28: thanks for the reply but my main concern is being able to revert the phone back to stock in case I return it or go in for repairs. I was unsuccessful at doing that with my previous EVO so its the only thing Im trying to find out? Is rooting under one of the methods (HTC Dev or Captain Throwback's) make it easier to revert back to stock or is it all the same? Ive been on stock sense now for 1 month & the phone really runs a lot worse than when rooted...

Pivo187 said:
FinZ28: thanks for the reply but my main concern is being able to revert the phone back to stock in case I return it or go in for repairs. I was unsuccessful at doing that with my previous EVO so its the only thing Im trying to find out? Is rooting under one of the methods (HTC Dev or Captain Throwback's) make it easier to revert back to stock or is it all the same? Ive been on stock sense now for 1 month & the phone really runs a lot worse than when rooted...
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You can always get back to stock, but it really isn't necessary.

Why isnt it necessary?

Pivo187 said:
Why isnt it necessary?
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If you have a hardware issue with the device, the software on it is irrelevant. And Sprint services rooted devices.

Thanks for the heads up Cap. BTW is it possible to make service/3g better on this phone? I feel like when I was using ASOP Rom the service was a lot better...At times my text messages dont go thru, I seem to get drop calls more often, & things just feel a lot slower on this stock sense rom that came with the phone..
Cap what ROM are you using?

Is it possible for 3g to be worse using stock sprint sense rom vs an ASOP rom ? I remeber when I had ASOP rom my 3g would hardly lag compared to now its constantly lagging...

Pivo187 said:
Thanks for the heads up Cap. BTW is it possible to make service/3g better on this phone? I feel like when I was using ASOP Rom the service was a lot better...At times my text messages dont go thru, I seem to get drop calls more often, & things just feel a lot slower on this stock sense rom that came with the phone..
Cap what ROM are you using?
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I just flashed Evervolv KitKat on my OG. More accurately I just restored it. Before that I was running Omni, but I have to do some work on that to get data working. I think I might need to borrow ril from Evervolv.
AOSP is slimmer than Sense, so the device will typically run faster with it. But I cant imagine signal is actually better, since the stock stuff is built specifically for the device.

Well Im not sure about that. When using AOSP my 3g hardly ever stopped working when I was at the gym. Now it stops at least 5 times...Does everything work on Evervolv KitKat Rom cant seem to find it on the forums? Im trying to find a ROM where all things are working well & is very fast.

Pivo187 said:
Well Im not sure about that. When using AOSP my 3g hardly ever stopped working when I was at the gym. Now it stops at least 5 times...Does everything work on Evervolv KitKat Rom cant seem to find it on the forums? Im trying to find a ROM where all things are working well & is very fast.
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The only way you'll have a ROM with everything working on this device is to use Gingerbread.

Captain_Throwback said:
The only way you'll have a ROM with everything working on this device is to use Gingerbread.
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that's the general consensus, eh?
i just brought my og evo out of retirement after my wife lost her iphone 5.
i figure this can tide her over until we decide what to do...change carriers, what phones to get, etc...
if i want her to have a phone with working/hacked hotspot and wimax...is there anything over gingerbread that will run it?
also, will i be tied to sense only roms?
thanks for the suggestions, gang.
mods...if i don't hear anything out of this thread...i hope you don't mind, but, i'll start an original thread.
thanks, gang!

cipher77 said:
that's the general consensus, eh?
i just brought my og evo out of retirement after my wife lost her iphone 5.
i figure this can tide her over until we decide what to do...change carriers, what phones to get, etc...
if i want her to have a phone with working/hacked hotspot and wimax...is there anything over gingerbread that will run it?
also, will i be tied to sense only roms?
thanks for the suggestions, gang.
mods...if i don't hear anything out of this thread...i hope you don't mind, but, i'll start an original thread.
thanks, gang!
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WiMAX will only work on Gingerbread, like I said previously. But you can run CM7 and still have working WiMax, so I guess that's something .

Captain_Throwback said:
WiMAX will only work on Gingerbread, like I said previously. But you can run CM7 and still have working WiMax, so I guess that's something .
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thanks, captain throwback...
it's funny to hear that cm7...SEVEN...is an option.
just serves to remind me how long i've had the phone.
so, maybe cm7 will do the trick for a while.
any variation of it you in mind? or, just straight cm7?
thanks, again!

[POLL]unofficial cm14 alpha for desire 816 [NO CELL SERVICE]

UPDATED:
released.
ROM thread
so, I've built a buggy cm14 that's good enough to look at and play a little with the features that do work, and watch the eye candy and all.
it has wifi and bluetooth and SMS messaging.
Otherwise broken telephony.
only some of the sound works. no camera, nfc, location.
the idea is a poll.
I figure people like to click buttons, so the poll suits that.

I'm amazed at your skills. And I have learned a lot from reading this thread. More importantly, my VM 816 is still functional.
Sent from my 710C using Tapatalk

I think you can release it whatever people use or not , but 816 is my only 4G phone.I will test it till the Calling Services worked

Ed128 said:
I'm amazed at your skills. And I have learned a lot from reading this thread. More importantly, my VM 816 is still functional.
Sent from my 710C using Tapatalk
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A lot of what I do is googling errors, borrowing commits from other cm devices with similar chipsets, (and commenting out lines that throw errors in the build until I figure out workarounds... not the most kosher of methods.)
It's fun, but I often lean heavily on stuff that's already been done by others. Grarak put up really nice device trees to work from on this device for example, and my first tweaks at it were just after it had faded from cm nightlies. Made it comparatively easy next to my Optimus or Evo3d.
frank9184 said:
I think you can release it whatever people use or not , but 816 is my only 4G phone.I will test it till the Calling Services worked
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Odds are the basic call services will be online way before 4G. Especially since my 4G service is still broken and has ben for quite a while. I'll hassle Virgin Mobile about a replacement sim card soon; research and talking with a Ting rep both imply that would fix my issue.

bigsupersquid said:
so, I've built a buggy cm14 that's good enough to look at and play a little with the features that do work, and watch the eye candy and all.
it has wifi and bluetooth, possibly nfc, probably no location, totally broken telephony.
only some of the sound works. no camera.
the idea is a poll.
I figure people like to click buttons, so the poll suits that.
Read this post and you see that clicking the thanks button counts more than voting...
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I think you should upload the zip. Legacy devices are getting cm 14. Why we are late?

Tim Cook said:
I think you should upload the zip. Legacy devices are getting cm 14. Why we are late?
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Well, htc certainly won't be releasing N for my a5_chl (Virgin Mobile variant) since they wouldn't even let M out the door for it.
you can partly name lack of manufacturer support.
And I get tired of complaints about nonworking items from people who don't read the OP, so I'm waiting for adequate interest to post it (big upload on poor isp, couple hours.)
Plus there's inability to test dug/dwg and that's twice the upload bandwidth. But few source changes to build for them, and some dual sim owners would enjoy buggy N too.
Several reasons that N isn't out in the wild yet for the a5. But I'll probably set it free to roam soon.

Question about CM14
When you let it roam, I'm ready to try it out. But I have two questions. First, I am delighted with CM13. It was the first time I ever flashed a phone and it is working nearly perfect. A hiccup or two but nothing I cannot handle. It has extended the useful life of my VM 816 A5 and saved me from buying another phone. Here's two questions for CM14 whenever it becomes available. Can I just backup my existing files with TWRP, Wipe and flash CM14? Then, the real question is if I don't like it, can I completely restore what I have now with RESTORE? The last thing I want is to ruin CM13. Thanks for helping this newby.

Ed128 said:
When you let it roam, I'm ready to try it out. But I have two questions. First, I am delighted with CM13. It was the first time I ever flashed a phone and it is working nearly perfect. A hiccup or two but nothing I cannot handle. It has extended the useful life of my VM 816 A5 and saved me from buying another phone. Here's two questions for CM14 whenever it becomes available. Can I just backup my existing files with TWRP, Wipe and flash CM14? Then, the real question is if I don't like it, can I completely restore what I have now with RESTORE? The last thing I want is to ruin CM13. Thanks for helping this newby.
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yes, and yes. I restore cm13 over messed up cm14 regularly.
Still fighting with ril. location not working at all in spite of the switch working. and nfc probably will work once I get the firmware moved to wherever it's looking. but all the sound seems to be working now.

Ed128 said:
When you let it roam, I'm ready to try it out. But I have two questions. First, I am delighted with CM13. It was the first time I ever flashed a phone and it is working nearly perfect. A hiccup or two but nothing I cannot handle. It has extended the useful life of my VM 816 A5 and saved me from buying another phone. Here's two questions for CM14 whenever it becomes available. Can I just backup my existing files with TWRP, Wipe and flash CM14? Then, the real question is if I don't like it, can I completely restore what I have now with RESTORE? The last thing I want is to ruin CM13. Thanks for helping this newby.
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Yes you can just Backup and Restore your previous ROM. Just be careful, wipe system and dalvik cache and cache. CM13 has some problems but mostly everything works on 816.

ajones23 said:
Yes you can just Backup and Restore your previous ROM. Just be careful, wipe system and dalvik cache and cache. CM13 has some problems but mostly everything works on 816.
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ninja'd you this time.
I've been able to dirty flash 14 over 13, but previously installed apps get denied permissions and stuff like that.

bigsupersquid said:
ninja'd you this time.
I've been able to dirty flash 14 over 13, but previously installed apps get denied permissions and stuff like that.
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Yup you got me, I usually don't dirty flash always clean flash. Since I use Root Essentials as partition of sdcard. When ever you get it to work,I'll be a tester. Let me know.

That's something I can deal with. Just don't want to go too far past my limited "expertise". And, not trying to hurry things. I'm a happy CM13 customer.
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Ed128 said:
That's something I can deal with. Just don't want to go too far past my limited "expertise". And, not trying to hurry things. I'm a happy CM13 customer.
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If you need help,just ask,I'm always on and off.

bigsupersquid said:
so, I've built a buggy cm14 that's good enough to look at and play a little with the features that do work, and watch the eye candy and all.
it has wifi and bluetooth, possibly nfc, probably no location, totally broken telephony.
only some of the sound works. no camera.
the idea is a poll.
I figure people like to click buttons, so the poll suits that.
Read this post and you see that clicking the thanks button counts more than voting...
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Love your work!!!

D816w
what could be the estimated date for the first beta? hunger to flash this CM14.....

Naxym said:
what could be the estimated date for the first beta? hunger to flash this CM14.....
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Its really not a good idea to ask for ETAs. Specially when not many things work.

Naxym said:
what could be the estimated date for the first beta? hunger to flash this CM14.....
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Its really not a good idea to ask for ETAs. Specially when not many things work.
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It's ok in this thread, since that's kind of what it's about.
If I can stabilize the radio glitches enough that all the telephony stops force-closing constantly I'll release an alpha, there isn't tons of interest but there seems to be enough.
After all, if I were in your shoes I'd want a release to check out.

bigsupersquid said:
It's ok in this thread, since that's kind of what it's about.
If I can stabilize the radio glitches enough that all the telephony stops force-closing constantly I'll release an alpha, there isn't tons of interest but there seems to be enough.
After all, if I were in your shoes I'd want a release to check out.
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I sorta may get a flashing bug if you put up a alpha. I just thought I would put my 2 cents in about ETAs. Not a good thing sometimes.

ajones23 said:
I sorta may get a flashing bug if you put up a alpha. I just thought I would put my 2 cents in about ETAs. Not a good thing sometimes.
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A lot of developers get uppity about ETAs.
I imagine with hot new devices and hundreds of posts a week it would get really old.
I usually just warn people that I have too much on my 'real-world' plate for my own taste and that my hobby work (this) ends up on the bottom of my get-er-done list.
Plus I like to put up it's-almost-ready posts and then take forever to upload:angel: and similar annoying delayed releases. Like I rebuilt for the OV a little while ago, posted about it, and never debugged or released it at all.
Bad dev :cyclops:
I put this thread out in general 816 to encourage comments and questions.
Once the alpha is out I'll open a thread in Original Dev (and post a link to it here) since cm14 is definitely original right now.
About to flash another test build!

Test has sms but no phone.
No Bluetooth.
Close to being uploadable.
assuming the next build isn't in any worse shape than this one (should have working BT, and I'm really hoping for at least 3g data and maybe phone service) then I'll try pushing the zip to AFH. If my landline internet stays connected long enough to get it upstream...

LG G6... Custom rom or not? and Why?...ty

Hi, everyone!
What are the advantages and disadvantages of custom rom for Lg G6?
Now, do you want me to do custom rom or not?
honestly, I'm torn.
And what do you suggest I do?
So thank you all very much, Sparcky

Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.

sparckygoon said:
Hi, everyone!
What are the advantages and disadvantages of custom rom for Lg G6?
Now, do you want me to do custom rom or not?
honestly, I'm torn.
And what do you suggest I do?
So thank you all very much, Sparcky
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Advantages and disadvantages of custom rom
If you have been part of the Android pool for any time, the chances of you hearing the term “custom ROM” is very high. A few months back, I gave a synopsis of rooting. I told what it was and gave its advantages and disadvantages. You may recall that the ability to flash custom ROMs was among the long list of benefits of rooting your Android phone.
DISADVANTAGES
Just as before, I am going to begin with the disadvantages of custom ROMs so that I don't waste the time of the faint of heart, and so you will know just what you are risking. Take the disadvantages seriously. If you do not know what you are doing, you risk turning your shiny, new, Android phone into a very expensive paperweight.
The first and most important drawback to custom ROMs is that you will void your warranty in the processes prior to flashing the ROM. As you may recall, simply rooting your device will void the manufacturer's warranty, and that processes is a prerequisite for flashing a custom ROM. The important disadvantage of custom ROMs is there are usually so many options, it's hard to decide on which one to go with. The solution to this is do your homework. ROMs that aren't widely known are risky and better left for the daring. Also, there is nothing stopping you from trying all of the different ROMs. If you try a ROM that you don't like, reload your backup image or try another.
ADVANTAGES
Now that we have that part out of the way, we can get into the juicy stuff. What is all the hype about? What makes ROM flashing so beneficial to the end user? What is possible when flashing custom ROMs? There are many questions that can be asked and just as many possibilities when using custom software. I'm going to try to cover the most important topics.
The biggest complaint about Android to date is no just fragmentation, but the slow firmware upgrades coming from manufacturers. Official software has to be sent through rigorous testing and numerous levels of approval from the manufacturer and carrier before it reaches users' hands. This can take and usually does take several months.
The most important part is knowing your risks. Always follow instructions intently. Deviating from a developer's set of instructions is asking for trouble. If something goes wrong, there is no one to blame but yourself.

How are you going to use your device?
IMO, if you use your device like most people, I think you can live with a stock ROM.
Moreover, if you are torn, what are the issues you are facing currently with your device? If these issues can be solved by installing a custom ROM, you provided your own answer.

Multiple choice, more fun!

I tried Fulmics, which is stock ROM plus tweaks, and eventually went back to stock ROM with root because it seemed more stable. I haven't tried any of the AOSP-based ROMs yet. I will give Fulmics one more try soon, but honestly the only thing I really miss on the stock ROM is text navigation arrow keys on the navbar when there's a keyboard active, and that's not in Fulmics either.
I might try LineageOS eventually just because they've fixed KRACK and nobody else has yet. But unless Fulmics or an AOSP-based ROM really wow me in some way, I wouldn't really have too much problem staying on rooted stock.

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Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.
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I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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What was the non-root ad block solution you found?

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the only thing I really miss on the stock ROM is text navigation arrow keys on the navbar when there's a keyboard active,
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what is feature and how do I use it? I'm using the stock keyboard.

zedmarcus said:
What was the non-root ad block solution you found?
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AdClear -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-adclear-root-version-ad-blocker-t3309011

HKSpeed said:
what is feature and how do I use it? I'm using the stock keyboard.
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If you're on the stock ROM, or a stock-based ROM like Fulmics, you don't. That's why I miss it; I'm on the stock ROM.
It's a feature I've seen in AOSP and CAF ROMs on other phones. Basically it adds left and right arrows to the navigation bar when there's a keyboard up, so you can move the cursor around easily.
LineageOS might have it. I don't know, I haven't looked. But I think it was originally a Cyanogenmod invention that got kanged around, so it makes sense that LineageOS might.

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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Idem...Thanks

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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Idem...Thanks
The basic ingredient missing in the "custom rom" is "wide angle" of camera ...It's may as well be an anathema.

Sam.1211 said:
Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.
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The basic ingredient missing in the "custom rom" is "wide angle" of camera ...It's may as well be an anathema.

Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
I am running lineage os on h870 and i get easy 2 days battery life out of it (i disabled almost all background procceses and location and ****)

mingo_mgx said:
Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
I am running lineage os on h870 and i get easy 2 days battery life out of it (i disabled almost all background procceses and location and ****)
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You can get better battery life with a stock ROM and a custom kernel.
You can skin the ROM with custom settings (Xposed) and something like Nova Launcher.

I can live with the custom ROM on phones that don't have a ridiculously modified OS. LG and Samsung, just to name a couple do so many modifications that I really miss LOS.

mingo_mgx said:
Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
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You can use both cameras with OpenCamera. It's in Play Store.

dwasifar said:
You can use both cameras with OpenCamera. It's in Play Store.
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I know but it doesnt have the ported google pixel 2 HDR

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If you're on the stock ROM, or a stock-based ROM like Fulmics, you don't. That's why I miss it; I'm on the stock ROM.
It's a feature I've seen in AOSP and CAF ROMs on other phones. Basically it adds left and right arrows to the navigation bar when there's a keyboard up, so you can move the cursor around easily.
LineageOS might have it. I don't know, I haven't looked. But I think it was originally a Cyanogenmod invention that got kanged around, so it makes sense that LineageOS might.
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Try Swiftkey and configure it to show arrow keys (cursor keys). I works.

Most Vanilla / Cleanest ROM?

Sorry if this has been asked before.
My phone was recently stolen so I have been using my S4 for over a month now however Samsung's OVER bloated 5.0.1 junk battery munching ROM is horrid and unbearable, its like trying to run Windows Vista!
I do not know anything about customs ROMs, and this will be my first attempt and I'm just looking for a ROM that WORKS without any drama. As Vanilla as humanly possible. Not interested in customizing anything, what ever Google offered stock I will be more then happy.
However I am LOST with all the ROMs listed. Some mention Xposed others mention kernals and its all very confusing and to be honest I just don't care. Can anyone who has tried these just tell me which to go for? I would really appreciate this.
Thanks!

5AL said:
Sorry if this has been asked before.
My phone was recently stolen so I have been using my S4 for over a month now however Samsung's OVER bloated 5.0.1 junk battery munching ROM is horrid and unbearable, its like trying to run Windows Vista!
I do not know anything about customs ROMs, and this will be my first attempt and I'm just looking for a ROM that WORKS without any drama. As Vanilla as humanly possible. Not interested in customizing anything, what ever Google offered stock I will be more then happy.
However I am LOST with all the ROMs listed. Some mention Xposed others mention kernals and its all very confusing and to be honest I just don't care. Can anyone who has tried these just tell me which to go for? I would really appreciate this.
Thanks!
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just try the super wizcyan if you want something clean and smooth but samsung based

5AL said:
Sorry if this has been asked before.
My phone was recently stolen so I have been using my S4 for over a month now however Samsung's OVER bloated 5.0.1 junk battery munching ROM is horrid and unbearable, its like trying to run Windows Vista!
I do not know anything about customs ROMs, and this will be my first attempt and I'm just looking for a ROM that WORKS without any drama. As Vanilla as humanly possible. Not interested in customizing anything, what ever Google offered stock I will be more then happy.
However I am LOST with all the ROMs listed. Some mention Xposed others mention kernals and its all very confusing and to be honest I just don't care. Can anyone who has tried these just tell me which to go for? I would really appreciate this.
Thanks!
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Honestly, since you know nothing about custom ROMs, I'm going to advise you to read. And what I mean by that is do research on what it takes to install a custom ROM properly and how to set it up so it can benefit you. Decide which ROM looks good to you, determine if you can install it on your model then take the necessary steps to do so. Otherwise, if you're not up for that then stay where you are or you will absolutely earn a new paperweight.

agraceful said:
Honestly, since you know nothing about custom ROMs, I'm going to advise you to read. And what I mean by that is do research on what it takes to install a custom ROM properly and how to set it up so it can benefit you. Decide which ROM looks good to you, determine if you can install it on your model then take the necessary steps to do so. Otherwise, if you're not up for that then stay where you are or you will absolutely earn a new paperweight.
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Well I've seen enough YT videos to understand the concept/principle, but I'm just trying to find the most simplest ROM there is. As I use my phone for work also so I can't have it stop working every 2 seconds.
I've used a friends Pixel phone which runs base android essentially. Which ROM here is the equivalent of that?
Thanks!

5AL said:
Well I've seen enough YT videos to understand the concept/principle, but I'm just trying to find the most simplest ROM there is. As I use my phone for work also so I can't have it stop working every 2 seconds.
I've used a friends Pixel phone which runs base android essentially. Which ROM here is the equivalent of that?
Thanks!
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YouTube videos for custom ROMs is beyond moronic. It's not about how it looks, it's about what must go on your phone in order to get to that point of installation. You're looking for a ROM that is pure aosp. I have no idea what version of the s4 you're on but this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...dcteam-android-source-project-nrd90m-t3453084 is pure aosp, based on Android 7.1.2. It worked flawless when I ran it.

Thanks, found this one on YT and it seems fairly straight forward to install, starts from 5:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oeq_c-18aI
Unless I'm missing something here?
Thanks again