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Scratches on my scratch resistant screen

I've owned my Samsung Focus since 12/26/10. I use it daily. I am careful not to put my keys and phone in the same pocket. I will admit to using my shirt to wipe smudges off my screen. It does not have a screen protector.
Is it normal to have so many small scratches all over the front of my screen?

parkpy said:
I've owned my Samsung Focus since 12/26/10. I use it daily. I am careful not to put my keys and phone in the same pocket. I will admit to using my shirt to wipe smudges off my screen. It does not have a screen protector.
Is it normal to have so many small scratches all over the front of my screen?
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I'm starting to wonder if there aren't some differences in Focii out there. I've only had mine a month, but it gets wiped, most often on the leg of my jeans, and has yet to have a single scratch, small or otherwise. I'll count myself lucky, but you should check out the gorilla glass thread going on here.

What may appear to be scratches could be the opposite of a scratch. Deposition of materials on the surface. I have a Motion Computing J3500 Tablet with Gorilla Glass. It looks like it has scratches sometimes, but it it actually fine marks from the digitizer pen. Some good hard rubbing with my microfiber cleaning cloths gets the job done.

Picture proof.
I'll use the suggestion of wiping hard with a microfiber though
edit: says I can't link you guys to the photo:-/

Quote from Samsung:
"Dear Paul,
Thank you for your inquiry.
We do apologize for the inconvenience. Apparently, the Samsung Focus is not using Gorilla Glass and we did not know how you utilize the use of your phone. If there would be scratches we advise you to use a protective screen on the phone.
Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
Kaye"

http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
Does the display use Gorilla Glass?
yes. the Samsung Focus does use Gorilla glass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU

wildbilll said:
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
Does the display use Gorilla Glass?
yes. the Samsung Focus does use Gorilla glass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
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bummmer.....I have had mine since November 8th and no scratches. No screen protector.
I believe you still have to be carefull. Nothing in your pocket with your phone.
You have to use common sense here as NOTHING in this world that says scratch resistant is really scratch resistant.

Some sand particles in your pocket can scratch any material besides diamonds.

Huh, this phone has to be using Gorilla glass. I've taken my car keys to the screen just to demonstrate it to other people, haha.
That said, my phone screen has no scratches. It wipes clean and looks as good as the day it came out of the box. There are a few on the back cover, but that's it.

Had my first spill
First drop yesterday onto pavement. A few almost imperceptible nicks on the chassis, but the screen is as smooth and unblemished as day 1.

drokkon said:
First drop yesterday onto pavement. A few almost imperceptible nicks on the chassis, but the screen is as smooth and unblemished as day 1.
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Hah, mines the same way. I dropped it twice now. Hit the back cover, flipped over, then proceeded to slide face first on the pavement.. the front black bezel looks like dogmeat but the glass is perfect I finally got a case just to protect that super soft front plastic surround..

I'm on my third Focus. My second one I had for over a month with a ZAGG screen protector on it. When I took it off to send the phone back to AT&T, the screen and back cover were MINT. They aren't cheap at $30, but I honestly think it was a very good investment. It isn't reusable, but has a lifetime warranty.

Had mine since Christmas eve.
Just wiped off all the smudges to take a look at it.
Looks like black ice to me.

I'm really not sure how I did it.. but my screen got a scratch on it. As a result I bought a screen protector from clearvue.
But anyway, here's a a picture I took to prove it:
[edit... okay looks like I need 8 posts to link a picture.. I'll update this in a bit]

I dropped mine on the gravel at the gun range on Sunday. Now, I've got a tiny chip and a crack across the screen. I guess I'll find out how much Samsung charges for repair soon...
Michael.

unfortunately, scratch resistant is not the same as scratch proof.

I heard Samsung put a layer on top of the Gorrila Glass to prevent fingerprint and improve smoothness of surface. Also I saw someone with Galaxy S tear that layer off(Just like screen protector). It might be the same thing for Focus.

amtrakcn said:
I heard Samsung put a layer on top of the Gorrila Glass to prevent fingerprint and improve smoothness of surface. Also I saw someone with Galaxy S tear that layer off(Just like screen protector). It might be the same thing for Focus.
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Maybe it was Nexus S that have oleophobic coating on the screen?

[INFO] Gorilla Glass can scratch!

Just an FYI for people.
A screen protector is always a good investment, it also does a great job of keeping finer prints down.

Zach Alt said:
Just an FYI for people.
A screen protector is always a good investment, it also does a great job of keeping finer prints down.
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Was there really a need for a thread saying you can scratch glass? Not being a jerk, just wondering

Also a heads up, if you punt it across the room it might break.

husker91 said:
Was there really a need for a thread saying you can scratch glass? Not being a jerk, just wondering
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Yes, this is in regards to posts in the availability thread at the top. You would be surprised at the amount of people that think Gorilla Glass is impervious to all scratches.

also get a matte screen cover that glossy ass screen for the LOSS

Another FYI for people is you should always walk around with a surgical mask and rubber gloves on because that'll reduce you risk of catching any germs!

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Another FYI for people is you should always walk around with a surgical mask and rubber gloves on because that'll reduce you risk of catching any germs!
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I tend to resell my tablets & cellphones when I upgrade so having a screen protector on them is a must. Plus, I rather be safe than sorry.

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Waiting on Steinheil ultra clear protector.
Have that on my Evo and it's great. So much better than zagg/invisiblesheild/etc.

I like the zagg/invisible shield for the reason most hate them, the orange peel.
Feels better, and it destroys fingerprints, and glare.

Zach Alt said:
Yes, this is in regards to posts in the availability thread at the top. You would be surprised at the amount of people that think Gorilla Glass is impervious to all scratches.
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I posted in that thread about me not using a screen protector. I don't put my device in a position that it would be that likely to get scratched. nothing is impervious, but you'd be surprised at how tough good glass can be. I just can't stand how my device looks and feels after putting on any screen protector.

In my experience with Gorilla Glass (on my Droid X) I haven't put a screen protector and the screen is still flawless. I have had it sitting on my lap in my SUV and as I exited the car it fell face down on the asphalt. Metal was nicked, screen was gorgeous as ever...
With a tablet... who's going to drop a tablet... Dont waste your money.

unless you grind sand or a diamond on your screen then you really don't need a screen protector....
Other things that might break the screen like dropping it from an airplane will more than likely break the plastic shell of the tab plus the processor and anything inside..

starplaya93 said:
unless you grind sand or a diamond on your screen then you really don't need a screen protector....
Other things that might break the screen like dropping it from an airplane will more than likely break the plastic shell of the tab plus the processor and anything inside..
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Yeah, wrong. I scratched my iPhone with a ruler. And I scratched my EVO with a screwdriver.
It happens.

Zach Alt said:
Yeah, wrong. I scratched my iPhone with a ruler. And I scratched my EVO with a screwdriver.
It happens.
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were you purposely trying to scratch your device?
I can't imagine your phones getting scratched by a screwdriver or ruler unless you were purposely trying to do so. You would of had to used a lot of force and purposely and aggressively rub the ruler/screwdriver on your device...
The thing is... Who in their right mind would do that?

Gorilla glass does scratch. if you are unlucky it can scratch given a fairly light contact with the wrong item!
It is much better than standard glass. It IS scratch resistant. But it CAN scratch!!
I have a couple of scratches on my Dell Streak from being in contact with keys.
I also have a scuff, across the screen, from dropping on the road.
However.. I won't be putting on a screen protector on my tablet. When I carry it, it wont be in my pocket, it will be in a neoprene case.

RedMist said:
Gorilla glass does scratch. if you are unlucky it can scratch given a fairly light contact with the wrong item!
It is much better than standard glass. It IS scratch resistant. But it CAN scratch!!
I have a couple of scratches on my Dell Streak from being in contact with keys.
I also have a scuff, across the screen, from dropping on the road.
However.. I won't be putting on a screen protector on my tablet. When I carry it, it wont be in my pocket, it will be in a neoprene case.
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gorilla glass can definitely get scratched, however i'v had my phone in my pocket with my keys plenty of times and the screen has never been harmed... The way I see it, if I do something terrible enough to my device that leads to the screen scratching then more than likely I probably destroyed the entire thing.

ive scratched my transformer, not sure how it happened!

gorilla glass scratches ??? YES!

Well i stratched mine ... actually my wife did. She picked a few shells from the beatch thru them in the bag where my phone was. Next thing that damn screen had scratches on it
Next day went and bought creen protector. I hate that because even if the screen is unbreakable, you can scratch it.
I do think that in normal use, that won;t happen but you you have a wife that loves sand ... and shells ... take care and good luck. I believe that sand will scratch that screen.

I would kill my wife

Gorilla glass is not unscratchable or unbreakable. Its advertised as stronger and less likely to scratch, but how much more stronger and scratch durable? My dell streak's gorilla glass shattered from a 3 foot faceplant. Granted it has a bigger surface area, it still shouldn't have shattered.
I never remove the factory screen cover until I have a skinomi or other type of protector ready to install.
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Your wife is blonde?

I take care of mine and only yesturday i noticed quite a few small scratchs so time for a screen protector,

Damn... The least you can ask for is a blo.... eh... a cold beer everyday for the next month
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Luckily I learned that lesson on my lg arena

Sand particles will scratch Gorilla glass.They are unprocessed glass after all! ;-)
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There's also been three reported screen fractures. Two from falls, one from sitting on it. So it's definitely not unbreakable. I've got a Zagg Invisible Shield full body suit on mine. As far as encasing your phone in vinyl goes, it looks pretty good. It's dead if I drop it but at least it will die pretty.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

I stopped using screen protectors when I got a DHD and never had any scratches on it, nor have I on my SGS2. That said, I treat the phone like it's my baby! I suppose accidents can happen to anyone though.
Regards.

Having a screen protector will actually reduce chances of a glass shatter tremendously cause of the fact that the adhesive quality of any screen protector keeps the glass together making it less prone of shattering.
As far as scratches go, gorilla glass is definitely more resistant to scratches, but it never hurts to put a scratchguard on it, does it!

BarryH_GEG said:
There's also been three reported screen fractures. Two from falls, one from sitting on it. So it's definitely not unbreakable. I've got a Zagg Invisible Shield full body suit on mine. As far as encasing your phone in vinyl goes, it looks pretty good. It's dead if I drop it but at least it will die pretty.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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I'm interested to know how that full body suit works. Surely with the back not being a flat surface you can't put a protector on it like a screen? Also, does it protect the edges?

Check the accessories thread on screen protectors, the invisible shield sucks on the sgs2.
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Most light scratches are usually the coating on top of screen not the actual glass.
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It might have been the sand and not the shells.

Locster126 said:
Check the accessories thread on screen protectors, the invisible shield sucks on the sgs2.
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Well, reading the posts in the accessories thread was 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Bottom line is people are looking for different things. I love those with a $700 phone buying $5 crap off of eBay. Anyway. I was looking for something to protect the phone, not just the screen. Here are some pics of my phone wearing the Zagg's. No protector is totally invisible. You can make up your own mind.
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mojojuju said:
Well i stratched mine ... actually my wife did. She picked a few shells from the beatch thru them in the bag where my phone was. Next thing that damn screen had scratches on it
Next day went and bought creen protector. I hate that because even if the screen is unbreakable, you can scratch it.
I do think that in normal use, that won;t happen but you you have a wife that loves sand ... and shells ... take care and good luck. I believe that sand will scratch that screen.
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I feel with you bro. That is exactly what my girlfriend did to my PSP with her handbag.
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it is not the glass itself that scratches but the coating on top of the glass... I have the same scratch. If i clean the screen with a microfiber cloth i cannot see any thing but when i run my fingernail on top of it i feel uneven surface.
And if my finger is oily THEN i can see the scratch.
Guys.. this is absolutely annoying. I dont see it but i know that it is there and it is driving me mad
I already ordered my zagg screen protector. hopefully i will have it in a few days and ill forget about the whole thing

BarryH_GEG said:
Well, reading the posts in the accessories thread was 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Bottom line is people are looking for different things. I love those with a $700 phone buying $5 crap off of eBay. Anyway. I was looking for something to protect the phone, not just the screen. Here are some pics of my phone wearing the Zagg's. No protector is totally invisible. You can make up your own mind.
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So it protects the edges too?

I got like a .3 millimeter scratch on mine. Just been having it in my pocket, never dropped it ..

Scratches on your Xperia Arc/Arc S

Besides the Crack Issue on Xperia Arc, Lets Discuss Scratches on our Xperia Arc
My Arc is Misty Silver, I've been using it for 8 months, I don't use Casing(Leather Case/TPU Gel Case etc), just straight to my pocket, No Keys, Coins etc
My Arc don't have cracks or chrome peeling, some minor scratches on the screen though(shatter proof sheet still intact)
I have tried using ZAGG Ishield Maximum Coverage for Xperia Arc, but it didn't last long, It collects dirt easily on the sides, transparency becoming less, and some parts are peeling, also it can't protect it from the scratches I got, so I have decided to remove it after 2 months of use.
I have a friend whose using a soft pouch included in the box, but his arc also suffers the same scratches on my Arc
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And there is a hole on my Shatter proof sheet, I don't know where I got it.

my 4 months old misty silver arc had many scratches on the chrome(bezel and button) but no peeling.
And my 8 months backcover had many scratches too but i cant see it if
you not look really close/u need brightness to see it.
I bought my arc in april and they replacing it in october .
i always use capdase softjacket and sometimes SE pouch

My midnight blue one has the same on the battery door opening cutout and the back cover is scratched all over with fine scratches - only visible in direkt sunlight and the same is on the painted front parts. Screen and chrome parts are fine.
Using it naked and putting it in my pocket jeans without keys or anything else.
Really cheap stuff if it scratches from that.
It's 8 months and 4 days old
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My midnight blue arc has some scratches on the screen and back cover, I kinda gave up using a screen protector, I might remove the shatterproof sheet if it gets really bad. A crack has unfortunately recently appeared above the light sensor, but other then that everything else is fine no peeling of the chrome, though the battery cover at the end when you pick it off has paint chipped off, no biggie though cos its just the back cover, if it gets worse I'll just buy a new one.
Since I got the phone in June I've used a neoprene case, which does the job well. I'd recommend this over getting gimmicky (and horrible) plastic covers which make the phone feel big and look ugly

You can get new battery covers on eBay for £5. I'm going to buy a couple as spares as my cover is getting a bit scratched.
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I know, but makes no sense when it's scratched again after a month
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What is this shatter proof sheet you speak of?

A factory applied screen protector.
I removed it
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Flo95 said:
A factory applied screen protector.
I removed it
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Does the screen feel better once removed? Easier to clean prints off? Scratch easily?

brian85 said:
Does the screen feel better once removed? Easier to clean prints off? Scratch easily?
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They say the Scratch Resistant Mineral Glass got some Oleophobic coating, better sensitivity, and the screen will be brighter if you removed factory applied protector

brian85 said:
Does the screen feel better once removed? Easier to clean prints off? Scratch easily?
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The screen feels a lot better. Really easy to use. Smooth. But definitely is not easy to clean. It's a fingerprints magnet. About scratches, I've been using it naked for just a week on my pants pocket. I seriously doubt it will get a scratch. It is not a gorilla display, but the glass seems sturdy enough.

My Arc have scratches on the buttons and display protector, but it's ok

rafuru said:
My Arc have scratches on the buttons and display protector, but it's ok
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Oh yea my arc got some light scratches on the buttons.
Im not sure why the phone gets scratches on the bottom part of the phone, maybe when inserting it in the pocket

mhyke13ph said:
Oh yea my arc got some light scratches on the buttons.
Im not sure why the phone gets scratches on the bottom part of the phone, maybe when inserting it in the pocket
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Dropped my Arc S on a night out.. more than just a few light scratches now!

i use this Bumper on the rough days
http://www.gilddesign.com/en/xperiaarc.html
like it or not , my arc still is scratchless surviving many falls, pockets, car holders etc
i also have an antifinger print screen sprotector from sgp store
hope they aslo make the bumper for the new Sony phones

Z3 Compact... Microscoped!

Le power button:
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Part of le camera button:
The touch grid:
Pixels!
Screen off:
Speaker's waterproof mesh.
Magnetic charging port:
Headphone jack:
Gap between display glass and body.
Micro SD flap text?
Dat rear camera:
Zee LED Flash:
Front camera:

I immediately looked at my phone's bottom mic hole to look for debris.
Excellent photos. Thanks.

Thing is filthy, clean that damn thing ...

I won't eat spaghetti after watch these picture......

NRG1975 said:
Thing is filthy, clean that damn thing ...
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It looked pretty clean with the naked eye
The thing is that everything looks filthy under a microscope

That's awesome, thanks for sharing

Lol, pretty awesome (and disturbing ) pics!
I love how the cameras actually look like an eye to me

It is pretty cool, the center being so black that you just cannot see anything in it despite 8 super bright LED's

Very cool images. Was interesting to see from the perspective that the phone is waterproof and what they did to the material/design to make it so.

That freaking gap between the glass and body...
I just sent mine back because of it, hoping it was a fault and that the replacement will be better.

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That freaking gap between the glass and body...
I just sent mine back because of it, hoping it was a fault and that the replacement will be better.
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That is actually the normal gap. The gaps are very small in reality and they are even on all sides of my phone, but look very large with the 200x magnification...
Some units do have an excessively large large gap either top or bottom, but that's not the case for mine.

degraaff said:
That is actually the normal gap. The gaps are very small in reality and they are even on all sides of my phone, but look very large with the 200x magnification...
Some units do have an excessively large large gap either top or bottom, but that's not the case for mine.
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Mine was worst around the corners, and one edge was worse than the other... so a bit uneven I guess. What annoyed me the most was the ease at which dust would settle in it.
Well, that gives me hope for at least some improvement!

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Mine was worst around the corners, and one edge was worse than the other... so a bit uneven I guess. What annoyed me the most was the ease at which dust would settle in it.
Well, that gives me hope for at least some improvement!
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Mine has slightly larger gaps at some corners as well. I just have the impression that the outer parts on Sony's newer phones and tablets are fitted less tightly than their older devices. I do know they intentionally need to leave some gap, because removing the glass is the only way to get to the internals with these new unibody devices.

That may be a reason why the glass eventually breaks easier than on other devices though. Damage to the edges is very critical for hardened glass.

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Mine has slightly larger gaps at some corners as well. I just have the impression that the outer parts on Sony's newer phones and tablets are fitted less tightly than their older devices. I do know they intentionally need to leave some gap, because removing the glass is the only way to get to the internals with these new unibody devices.
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Couldn't they just prise the plastic corner edging off to get to it? On my Z1C there is almost no gap between the glass and that edging, so I find it hard to believe it's necessary now. No, it looks like loose manufacturing/quality controls to me, especially when the severity of it varies between devices...

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Couldn't they just prise the plastic corner edging off to get to it? On my Z1C there is almost no gap between the glass and that edging, so I find it hard to believe it's necessary now. No, it looks like loose manufacturing/quality controls to me, especially when the severity of it varies between devices...
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It doesn't look like it's possible to remove the corners, you can't feel any separation between the corners and the sides, it's as if it's melted together or something.
By the way, the nylon corners don't sit directly against the glass, there is still the plastic rim front and back that goes all around the glass.

I can't see the pics anymore

Going back to the gaps, my top gap is annoying large is filling with sand and dust (pocket crud). Anyone have any pointers to removing this?
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I can't see the pics anymore
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I will try to find an alternative to host the pictures, this thread made my photo bucket bandwidth usage skyrocket from 0 to exceeding 10 GB in a day, LOL.

Pictures are visible again.