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I recently saw the article for the gtab 7 plus coming to tmobile on androidcentral. I was thinking if it would be a good idea to get rid of my gtab 10 for the 7 plus. I really miss the fact that with the old gtab I was able to take anywhere in my pocket. the 10 is a pain to carry around and plus it will be 3g so I will be able to pop my sim in and use data without having to tether. also the specs are very similar to the 10. does anyone else think its a good idea?
5.3" ... 7" ... 7"+ ... 7.7" ... 8.9" ... 10.1" ...
Help me to choose ...
Hmm no, thanks ... I am waiting ICS tablet
Yes I think it's better to wait for ICS or Windows 8 tablet.
make up your own mind dude.
No offense, but I just don't understand this type of thread. You're just inviting a flame war over which tab is "better" and honestly, you're the only one who can choose what's best for you.
just asking for an opinion i already have the gtan 10 just wondering if its a dumb move to sell it for the gtab 7 plus not trying to start a war over anything
Can't see any reason to get the Tab 7+ over the Tab 7.7 - the 7.7 has a far better screen, a faster CPU and is thinner and ever-so-slightly lighter.
Really can't see why Samsung bothered producing the 7+ at all.
thanks for the info the tab 7.7 is much better than 7 plus. now to see if it will fit in my pocket
Well, it's dimensions are very similar to the 7+ - it's about 1cm wider but it's a couple of mm thinner.
The original Tab was 190.1 x 120.5 x 12 mm
The Tab 7+ is 193.7 x 122.4 x 9.9 mm
And the Tab 7.7 is 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm
then it should fit. I like the 10 but its not very comfterable to carry around
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Can't see any reason to get the Tab 7+ over the Tab 7.7 - the 7.7 has a far better screen, a faster CPU and is thinner and ever-so-slightly lighter.
Really can't see why Samsung bothered producing the 7+ at all.
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Faster CPU, 64GB option, thinner, lighter, bigger battery, bigger better higher resolution display in nearly the same dimensions. I'm with you, I have no idea why Samsung even bothered with this one, virtually no advantage to the 7 Plus over the 7.7. I'm impatiently waiting for the 7.7's release date and price to be announced for the US, it will be my first tablet!
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Faster CPU, 64GB option, thinner, lighter, bigger battery, bigger better higher resolution display in nearly the same dimensions. I'm with you, I have no idea why Samsung even bothered with this one, virtually no advantage to the 7 Plus over the 7.7. I'm impatiently waiting for the 7.7's release date and price to be announced for the US, it will be my first tablet!
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I know this thread is a little old but at least for people searching let me add here that the galaxy tab 7 plus has one big advantage. It was unveiled to the public to have the exynos processor instead of the tegra 2. In other words its significantly faster and smoother with better gaming capabilities.
There's that and it is sold in the US. The 7.7 will not be sold in the US.
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I know this thread is a little old but at least for people searching let me add here that the galaxy tab 7 plus has one big advantage. It was unveiled to the public to have the exynos processor instead of the tegra 2.
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The Tab 7 Plus has a 1,2GHz Exynos SoC, the Tab 7.7 has a 1.4GHz Exynos SoC.
Still absolutely no reason to buy the Tab 7 Plus.
Even if its not sold in the us you can still buy it. Tabs are mainly used wifi only for the most
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The Tab 7 Plus has a 1,2GHz Exynos SoC, the Tab 7.7 has a 1.4GHz Exynos SoC.
Still absolutely no reason to buy the Tab 7 Plus.
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Totally disagree. Waiting for a device that is not even scheduled for a release and 0.2 GHz faster makes no sense. SAMOLED would be maybe a reason but who knows if the first generation of larger SAMOLED is really what i want.
I prefered the GSII over the upcoming Nexus Prime because I am sick of being the guinea pig for Samsung and Google. The Nexus S was crap upon relase so I don't want to try neither a first generation Tablet with SAMOLED nor a ICS device that is buggy.
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The Tab 7 Plus has a 1,2GHz Exynos SoC, the Tab 7.7 has a 1.4GHz Exynos SoC.
Still absolutely no reason to buy the Tab 7 Plus.
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Oh, my mistake, there is a kernel on the plus forums that will bring the plus up to 1.4Ghz
also, did anyone mention that the galaxy tab plus is .7 inches smaller?
I think this is a 10.1 forum neither a 7.7 nor a 7+ forum.
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I've had a Tab 10.1 since it's introduction in 2011. On an impulse, last Friday I purchased a Note 12.2 from Best Buy. I'm not real thrilled with the 12.2 behemoth. It's too heavy and unwieldy to hold and be comfortable. I'm taking it back. I've decided that 10.1 is the size for me.
So, I'm torn. Should I get the Note 10.1 (2014) or the Tab Pro? I want 32gb not 16gb so I'd have to wait for the Tab Pro version with 32Gb to be released (only the 16gb is being shipped now.)
If I get the Note 10.1 will I be buying older technology? Will it be laggy as some have said? What are the advantages/disadvantages of the Note 10.1 compared to the Tab Pro 10.1?
One thing I do like about the Note 12.2 is that the speakers are LOUD, something I didn't have with the Original Tab. Are the speakers good in the Note 10.1?
(Don't sell me on the pen, I won't use it. I had a Note 2 and now a Note 3 and the pen never comes out.)
Well, if you never use the pen, the tabPro may be for you. However, given the identical price points, the note 10.1 has better specs AND the added value of the spen, it may make the note a better overall value.
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We know for sure the N10.1-14 is getting both M-UX and 4.4. Since it's not a "Pro" it probably won't get the additional Pro features which are Hancom Office, 6 months of WebEx, SideSync 3.0, Remote PC, and e-Meeting. You can side load Hancom Office as explained in the apps sub-forum. You can download WebEx yourself so the value's in the six free months. Samsung's announced SideSync 3.0 is going to be free to all Samsung Android device owners. RSUPPORT makes Samsung's remote PC app and you can download it free from Play. So the only Pro "exclusive" is e-Meeting which only works with other Pro devices. So in the end, the N10.1-14 and Tab|Pro 10.1 will/can be almost identical s/w wise.
They are identical h/w wise with the exception being the N10.1-14 has an additional 1GB of RAM. But all the inking and S Pen related stuff you said you don't use probably consumes the extra memory. The N10.1-14 has a menu capacitive button which will probably be carried over in 4.4 so the new task button on the Tab|Pro is the only physical difference. The N10.1-14 with 4.4/M-UX and Tab|Pro 10.1 should perform exactly like the N12 you had because while the display on the latter's bigger the PPI's been reduced so all three are pushing an identical amount of pixels and use identical h/w.
So it comes down to availability and price. With the price being so similar between the N10.1-14 and Tab|Pro 10.1 I think a lot of people will go for the former; especially once the s/w's upgraded. I'd question the volume of Tab|Pro's sold at the iPad prices Samsung's asking so that could affect development support.
Good luck deciding...
Well, the Tab pro only has 2gb of ram compared to 3gb on the Note. The Note will get Kitkat soon. Processors seem to both be 1.9ghz. I'm not really seeing a difference here except for the pen. Personally I don't use the pen either and I also have a Note 3.
Ram is only relevent on having more apps open at the same time which is needed with notes multitasking abilities.
If u dont need the pen go ahead and get the tab pro. It has better gpu i believe.
S pen was a seller for me since i love it for use for school
TabGuy said:
I've had a Tab 10.1 since it's introduction in 2011. On an impulse, last Friday I purchased a Note 12.2 from Best Buy. I'm not real thrilled with the 12.2 behemoth. It's too heavy and unwieldy to hold and be comfortable. I'm taking it back. I've decided that 10.1 is the size for me.
So, I'm torn. Should I get the Note 10.1 (2014) or the Tab Pro? I want 32gb not 16gb so I'd have to wait for the Tab Pro version with 32Gb to be released (only the 16gb is being shipped now.)
If I get the Note 10.1 will I be buying older technology? Will it be laggy as some have said? What are the advantages/disadvantages of the Note 10.1 compared to the Tab Pro 10.1?
One thing I do like about the Note 12.2 is that the speakers are LOUD, something I didn't have with the Original Tab. Are the speakers good in the Note 10.1?
(Don't sell me on the pen, I won't use it. I had a Note 2 and now a Note 3 and the pen never comes out.)
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I had the 12.2 from BB as well, went to the 8 which turned out to be too small so I'm getting the Note 10.1 2014. I will say though I sometimes miss that 12.2. Yes it was heavy, yes it was a bit awkward, but it really felt like a beast of a machine. It felt as if you could actually get stuff done on it versus just doing some browsing/reading. The Note 8 just has such tiny text in places and the UI elements on some things are just not designed for that resolution/screen size. The 10.1 seems like an ideal size, but if that 12.2 had cellular as an option (like my 10.1 will have) I probably would've kept it. Also, 16gb yes, it's not enough. With the note 8 I was getting low mem warnings and didn't really have it long, so 32gb would be the minimum.
You may want to think on that 12.2 a bit more. The 12.2 also has the USB 3.0 and the now standard button layout (across their pro line). The 10.1 will get upgraded, but who knows when and what that will actually look like. There's also the charging times. I've been reading about 6+ hour charge times fro the note 10.1-14, not sure about the 12.2, but with the USB 3 it probably charges faster.
To put it simply, if you plan on writing hand written notes, go with the the note. It's great for students or productivity. If not, get the tab. The specs are almost identical.
i have the 2014 note 10.1 and it is great - portable but still a good size - i buy too many devices and i went to purchase the pro 8.4 on sunday from best buy but they wouldnt sell it to me - told me it was not available for sale until this friday ( i was at the cashier with the tablet in my hand lol ) i guess that is a good thing cause i really wanted the 12.2 - i was going to buy that one as well when it arrived at best buy this friday ( i am in canada btw ) i think the 12.2 would be perfect i had the asus 18.4 android / windows 8 tablet before that was massive but the screen was not good - they should have not sold it with a 1080p screen with that size it didnt look good at all ! on a side note i have the lenovo yoga 2 pro windows 8 ultrabook and that has the best screen i have ever seen on laptop or tablet - really wish it was android rather then windows though then it would have been awesome instead of just great
I'll add my input. I bought the 8.4 on release day and used it for a week. Having a note 3, I thought the 8.4 was too close to the size and felt pointless to me. I am now using the note 10.1 2014. Bought it yesterday and was going to box it up and return it today and buy the 8.4 again. Lol. So here I am using the note still and actually liking it now. I want the 4.4 on this before I can really make a decision ( thank god for best buy elite). I felt the extra gig of ram was worth it for me as I felt the 8.4 was sluggish when I pushed it. My note 3 is a champ. Will I see a real difference I don't know.
I thought maybe getting the pro 10.1 but I figured for the ram and the pen IF I ever use it it's there and same price. Gosh don't we have such problems deciding on a tablet.
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The Note. It has triple the ram and the stylus with Wacom digitizer all for the same price. Sort of a no brainer imo. Not sure who would be the Tab Pro.
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The Note. It has triple the ram and the stylus with Wacom digitizer all for the same price. Sort of a no brainer imo. Not sure who would be the Tab Pro.
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It's 3Gb vs. 2Gb, that's not triple.
I do have Note 10.1 2014 since release day, great device. It doesn't take 6 hours to charge, and USB 3.0 does not make difference in charging. I got also the 8.4, to replace Note 8.0, nice combination of large screen for work and a smaller one for reading.
Ah, I keep thinking the Tab Pro only has 1gb. Don't know where my brain is.
Thanks for your replies. I returned the Note Pro 12.2 and purchased the Note 10.1 (2014). It feels much better albeit physically smaller than my original Tab 10.1.
I picked a 32GB Note 10.1 2014 Edition. Picked it up because I used to have the original note. I wasn't sure if I should have purchased the tab pro instead.
So you guys have an opinion?
I like the s pen but I don't need it.
Thanks guys
Tab Pro is newer
S-Pen is critical when I need to use it
I see SS will use Super Amoled on new Tab/NotePro line up in late 2014
It's almost the same tablet, same SoC, screen and (almost) the same body. The only hardware difference I found was whether or not the S-Pen is included.
All about the S-pen
If you like handwriting recognition, then you need the note. If you never use the S-pen, then what is the point? Individual decision based on useage case mate.
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I picked a 32GB Note 10.1 2014 Edition. Picked it up because I used to have the original note. I wasn't sure if I should have purchased the tab pro instead.
So you guys have an opinion?
I like the s pen but I don't need it.
Thanks guys
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Note10.1Dude said:
If you like handwriting recognition, then you need the note. If you never use the S-pen, then what is the point? Individual decision based on useage case mate.
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I've played with a couple of N12's and after the 4.4 update the N10.1-14 is faster. M-UX apparently uses a boat load of resources. When M-UX was first announced I was excited because it appeared to be thorough enough to be an alternate UI. It ended up being My Magazine de-constructed and on steroids and takes up a mandatory home page. For those that appeals to it's a potential plus. I'm glad we didn't get it because I like how my home pages are laid out. Don't forget the Tab Pro 10 only has 2GB of RAM. That may or may not be a big deal depending on how much RAM the active digitizer and S Pen/Note use. Speaking of the display it's not the same as ours because it's a standard conductive display. I have no idea what that translates in to performance wise. One benefit the Tab Pro 10 has is that it's newer and shares s/w with the other Pros. For all we know 4.4 may be our last update.
And how does it compare with the note 10.1 2014 edition?
I really love the S pen. Its so useful
Love it cause its a digitizer
transelite said:
And how does it compare with the note 10.1 2014 edition?
I really love the S pen. Its so useful
Love it cause its a digitizer
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I was thinking of getting one, but only difference is the screen.......I won't get the tab S now..No root exploit anymore..Note is far better.
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My wife has the Tab S. It's an excellent tablet, very comparable (or better) than than the Note 10.1 2014 in terms of most of the specs and (real world) performance. I say "real world" because I do realize that the Tab S is a significant upgrade in some of the specs, but in my real world use of both tablets I haven't really noticed the Tab S being mindblowingly superior to the Note 10.1 2014.
It is a perfect tablet for my wife, but I still need/want the S-pen and root, so the Note 10.1 2014 is the better tablet for me. My wife also got the Tab 4 10.1 to use an eReader while exercising (didn't want to trash her Tab S at the gym). The Tab 4 is a nice tablet, too, but I put the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab S as fairly equal, but the Tab 4 is several notches below both of those overall.
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My wife has the Tab S. It's an excellent tablet, very comparable (or better) than than the Note 10.1 2014 in terms of most of the specs and (real world) performance. I say "real world" because I do realize that the Tab S is a significant upgrade in some of the specs, but in my real world use of both tablets I haven't really noticed the Tab S being mindblowingly superior to the Note 10.1 2014.
It is a perfect tablet for my wife, but I still need/want the S-pen and root, so the Note 10.1 2014 is the better tablet for me. My wife also got the Tab 4 10.1 to use an eReader while exercising (didn't want to trash her Tab S at the gym). The Tab 4 is a nice tablet, too, but I put the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab S as fairly equal, but the Tab 4 is several notches below both of those overall.
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You won't notice.it has the same specs as 2014 tab..same processor, etc....It's not worth $500 for a Amoled screen.
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I have both actually but gave the Note to my girlfriend and kept the Tab S.
I've always liked Samsung Amoled screens so that was the main reason I switched.
The note part wasn't as important in my decision when I intially purchased and I rarely used it.
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You won't notice.it has the same specs as 2014 tab..same processor, etc....It's not worth $500 for a Amoled screen.
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I noticed a difference. Again, not mindblowing, but there is a difference. The processor in the Tab S is an octacore processor versus a quadcore, so they're not the same processor. The Tab S is also thinner, lighter, and comes with a lot more new TouchWiz bells & whistles that the Note 10.1 2014 does not have even after the Kitkat update. The Amoled screen is being reviewed as arguably the best tablet screen available. And considering what I paid for my Note 10.1 2014 right after it was released, $500 is a steal for a tablet that's actually slightly better.
All that being said, if you're like me, then you bought the Note 10.1 2014 for a reason -- particularly the Note features. Otherwise I would most definitely own the Tab S.
Yeah the tab S is the later model to the note 10.1 2014 edition.
I was just thinking of purchasing it too, mainly cause I see it advertised
But I've rooted my device and you guys say that the tab S cant be rooted?
Cause it hasn't been done yet?
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The processor in the Tab S is an octacore processor versus a quadcore, so they're not the same processor.
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The S' use S-800/Adreno 330 and Exynos 5420/Mali T604 just like all of Samsung's high-end tablets (Note 10.1-14, Pro's). The only difference being earlier 10+" LTE tablets all got S-800 while with the majority of S' are Exynos/LTE. The U.S. carrier S' still use S-800 and there may be other isolated examples too.
The Tab S is also thinner, lighter
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And bigger.
And comes with a lot more new TouchWiz bells & whistles that the Note 10.1 2014 does not have even after the Kitkat update.
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M-UX is the only thing fundamentally different. Everything else works exactly the same but has a fresher interface, darker interface to help AMOLED battery life, or both. There are dozens of pages in the S forums complaining about lag. Same thing on the Pro forums. 4.4 on the N10.1-14 is pretty much lag free; especially compared to the 4.3 launch s/w. So M-UX is one "bell and whistle" I'm glad we were able to avoid.
The Amoled screen is being reviewed as arguably the best tablet screen available.
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Note's in general are pitched at productivity and creation users. That audience would be miserable with an AMOLED display. It's beautiful for video where it's quite battery efficient but on light colors, like most productivity and creation apps are, people would be crying. The S' battery life on whites would absolutely kill me because that's where I spend the majority of my time.
I have been using the Note 10.1 2014 at work and really like it. Just got a Tab S to play with and it's pretty nice, thought I would hate the bronze color but looks very sophisticated. The Tab S feels much snappier than the Note 10.1 for some reason even though they are both running 4.4.2. I also really like Magazine UX, wish it would come to the Note but being this late in the game seems doubtful. The screen on the Tab S is also BEAUTIFUL, and the tablet does feel lighter. I do like the factory book cover case for the Note better than the one for the Tab S. Honestly I'm torn, I like the Pen on the Note but the snappier feel and Magazine UX has me wanting to switch. I will see how battery life compares before I decide.
Is magazine UX that good? Its interface layout is similar to windows 8 right?
I really like simplicity when its used in note 3 (NOVA). But I can see how that magazine UX interface might work with the tablets
.p.s love the note pro keyboard on my 10.1 2014 EDITION:good:
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Is magazine UX that good? Its interface layout is similar to windows 8 right?
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M-UX was originally supposed to be a complete UI for Samsung's tablets. There were widgets for all of Samsung's apps and most major apps. There was the ability to add a short-cut as a small tile for every app on the device. So you could literally have all your home screens configured using M-UX and in addition to being cleaner and more modern looking it allowed better use of display real estate because widgets were edge-to-edge. None of that happened. Most likely because Google had a stroke. So M-UX ended up being a mandatory home page, has limited widgets for Samsung's apps, and no way to add any type of app short-cuts. And some of the traditional widgets we have are now "M-UX only" which sucks if you like to group your apps and widgets in to like-categories on separate home pages. There's no question that M-UX slows down tablets that use it.
Here's just one of the many threads in the S forum talking about lag. There are a bunch of threads and hundreds of posts. The Pro's have M-UX and there are similar posts. In both forums people coming from a N10.1-14 (on 4.4) complain about the lag on the Pro's and S' in comparison.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/disappointed-tab-s-t2803856
I'm not a lag freak so would probably get a Tab S if I were a consumption user. The only real benefit of the S over the N10.1-14 is its AMOLED display. It's got a .5" larger display but its dimensions go up proportionately. It's actually got a lower PPI than the N10.1-14 so for reading and browsing in addition to the N10.1-14 having better battery life its got better PPI too. The LCD display on the N10.1-14 is great with few shortcomings and gets far better battery life on whites than the S'. So how big a deal better contrast on dark colors is to you determines how much better an S would be over a N10.1-14. I'm a huge S Pen and productivity user so the S' really aren't an option for me anyway so I have no ax to grind.
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But I've rooted my device and you guys say that the tab S cant be rooted?
Cause it hasn't been done yet?
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I think they are referring to TowelRoot, which can root certain Snapdragon devices WITHOUT tripping the Knox warranty e-fuse.
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The S' use S-800/Adreno 330 and Exynos 5420/Mali T604 just like all of Samsung's high-end tablets (Note 10.1-14, Pro's). The only difference being earlier 10+" LTE tablets all got S-800 while with the majority of S' are Exynos/LTE. The U.S. carrier S' still use S-800 and there may be other isolated examples too.
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The only example I'm talking about is my wife's SM-T800 Galaxy Tab S 10.5, which the official Samsung specs specifically state:
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PROCESSOR SPEED, TYPE
Exynos™ 5 Octa (1.9Ghz Quadcore + 1.3 Ghz Quadcore)
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SM-T800NTSAXAR
My SM-P600 Note 10.1 2014 does not have this processor.
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M-UX is the only thing fundamentally different. Everything else works exactly the same but has a fresher interface, darker interface to help AMOLED battery life, or both. There are dozens of pages in the S forums complaining about lag. Same thing on the Pro forums. 4.4 on the N10.1-14 is pretty much lag free; especially compared to the 4.3 launch s/w. So M-UX is one "bell and whistle" I'm glad we were able to avoid.
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I have spent a lot of time on both devices (physically in-hand), and the interface as a whole, as well as the entire feature set, are significantly different, even the basic "Android" settings menus are organized rather different. M-UX is just one feature in that different interface.
All one has to do is go back to the beginnings of this particular forum, as well as read the Note 10.1 2014 reviews to see all the complaints about lag. At one time that was all that was being discussed on this forum. Dozens of people were returning their devices solely because of lag.
For what it's worth, I never experienced lag on my Note 10.1 2014 or the Tab S.
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Note's in general are pitched at productivity and creation users. That audience would be miserable with an AMOLED display. It's beautiful for video where it's quite battery efficient but on light colors, like most productivity and creation apps are, people would be crying. The S' battery life on whites would absolutely kill me because that's where I spend the majority of my time.
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I'm not miserable with the Tab S's display, and I am predominately a Note 10.1 2014 user (the Tab S is my wife's tablet). She solely uses her Tab S as an eReader and web browser, and her battery lasts longer than my Note 10.1 2014 when used for the same purposes/time.
Again, I really like the note features on my Note 10.1 2014, which is why I still own/use it instead of a Tab S, but in just about every other way, the Tab S is the superior tablet. Not lightyears superior, but still superior.
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My SM-P600 Note 10.1 2014 does not have this processor.
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Yes, it does. The N10.1-14, Pro's, and S' all use either Exynos 5420 or a Snapdragon S-800. No Wi-Fi only version of any of them except for the Pro 8.4 ever used anything but Exynos 5420. The SGS5's "eight core chip" is Exynos 5422 which is a modified version of 5420 with HMP enabled. The "eight core chip" in the Note 4 is 5433 which is even newer. So your SM-P600 Wi-Fi N10.1-14 has the same SoC as every Wi-Fi only Tab S. The SM-P601 (3G) uses the same chip. The SM-P605 (LTE) uses S-800. The only change between the Tab S and earlier tabs is that all of the earlier LTE tablets had S-800 where the majority of LTE S' moved to Exynos 5420. That said, considering they all use identical h/w, run 4.4.2, and have similar Samsung s/w the performance differences people claim really don't make a lot of sense. If anything I tend to believe that people complaining about the Pro's and S' being slower because of M-UX is true because of the additional resources it consumes.
I have the note 10.1. I considered the tab s but I can't live without the ESPN especially now that I found the app MyScript stylus beta
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Dang auto correct, s-pen i meant
ESPN haha .... But I agree ... I have gotton use to the S-pen aswell, would be bizziare having a tablet without it it I reckon :/
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Yes, it does. The N10.1-14, Pro's, and S' all use either Exynos 5420 or a Snapdragon S-800. No Wi-Fi only version of any of them except for the Pro 8.4 ever used anything but Exynos 5420. The SGS5's "eight core chip" is Exynos 5422 which is a modified version of 5420 with HMP enabled. The "eight core chip" in the Note 4 is 5433 which is even newer. So your SM-P600 Wi-Fi N10.1-14 has the same SoC as every Wi-Fi only Tab S. The SM-P601 (3G) uses the same chip. The SM-P605 (LTE) uses S-800. The only change between the Tab S and earlier tabs is that all of the earlier LTE tablets had S-800 where the majority of LTE S' moved to Exynos 5420. That said, considering they all use identical h/w, run 4.4.2, and have similar Samsung s/w the performance differences people claim really don't make a lot of sense. If anything I tend to believe that people complaining about the Pro's and S' being slower because of M-UX is true because of the additional resources it consumes.
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I stand corrected, but I do wish to point out (and know for a fact) that Samsung "corrected" its specs on the Note 10.1 2014, because when it was first released and I was considering buying it, the CPU was listed only as a 1.9 ghz quadcore -- not an Octa and there was no mention of the 1.3ghz quadcore combination in the specs. I came to the Note 10.1 2014 from the dualcore Acer A500, so I found the quadcore an acceptable upgrade. An Octa would've blown my mind.
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I stand corrected..
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No worries. I wasn't trying to prove you wrong but since the topic is a direct comparison against the Tab S I thought the similarities between the two should be known. All Samsung's high-end tablets since the N10.1-14 was released last year are architecturally the same. And with the exception of the N10.1-14 not getting M-UX run near identical s/w too. They also push the exact same number of pixels; the PPI goes up and down depending on physical display size.
The S' really should have at least Exynos 5422 and S-801 or, even better, Exynos 5433 and S-805. I'm guessing Samsung re-used the existing high-end tablet architecture to save on development and build costs. The N10.1-14 is due for a refresh. It'll be interesting to see what direction Samsung goes h/w wise. They've been testing a 10" 4K LCD tablet display and that would need Exynos 5433/S-805. I doubt the next Note will be AMOLED because it's awful on light colors battery wise and Note's are all about productivity and creation where the apps tend to be light colored.
Why bother releasing a 2 version if its no better than the 1???
Just looked at the spec for both 8.0 and 9.7 and its pretty much identical to the 8.4 and 10.5 apart from the weight of the 10.5 has been reduced somewhat due to it being a smaller screen, woopdeedoo!!
I was expecting something better than the same old 1.9 and 1.3 quad, maybe even a 12" Tab S ??
I will stick to my 8.4 and 10.5 and wait for the Tab S 3 in 18 months or so
Still waiting to upgrade my Note 8, what's going on there??? No Note 8 version 2
I thought the S2 would have 4GB of ram but no I rather buy the S1 then the S2
If your main usage isn't watching movies on it. I think yes, the tab s2 is better.
For me the reasons why I chose the tab s2 is because of it's screen ratio of 4:3 (which is actually better for browsing and reading), it's lighter than the S1 (which is a big plus) and it's got a faster processor (I've seen speeds of 54000 on antutu). and a fingerprint unlocker which is actually usable
If i did not watch movies, I would not even buy an oled display tablet at all, as they can be a right pain when it comes to white/bright when it comes to power usage, I would get an lcd display tablet, oled is the only reason i buy Samsung.
John.
I did read the processor was fast but both my S1's are still snappy as hell so I doubt I would see a difference anyway
I think the 2 side by side are too close to warrant an upgrade from S1 to S2 was more my point, i am disapointed that I have to wait till S3 for a worthwhile upgrade
I wont buy any other brand as Samsung top line really are thee best out there
I'm upgrading from a note 10.1, although this was a very good tablet his time has come
But especially the weight was bothering me, 600g was just too much to use as an e-reader.
But I get custom ROM and kernel and I get a high score of 49 to 50k if I'm lucky
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