And how does it compare with the note 10.1 2014 edition?
I really love the S pen. Its so useful
Love it cause its a digitizer
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And how does it compare with the note 10.1 2014 edition?
I really love the S pen. Its so useful
Love it cause its a digitizer
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I was thinking of getting one, but only difference is the screen.......I won't get the tab S now..No root exploit anymore..Note is far better.
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My wife has the Tab S. It's an excellent tablet, very comparable (or better) than than the Note 10.1 2014 in terms of most of the specs and (real world) performance. I say "real world" because I do realize that the Tab S is a significant upgrade in some of the specs, but in my real world use of both tablets I haven't really noticed the Tab S being mindblowingly superior to the Note 10.1 2014.
It is a perfect tablet for my wife, but I still need/want the S-pen and root, so the Note 10.1 2014 is the better tablet for me. My wife also got the Tab 4 10.1 to use an eReader while exercising (didn't want to trash her Tab S at the gym). The Tab 4 is a nice tablet, too, but I put the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab S as fairly equal, but the Tab 4 is several notches below both of those overall.
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My wife has the Tab S. It's an excellent tablet, very comparable (or better) than than the Note 10.1 2014 in terms of most of the specs and (real world) performance. I say "real world" because I do realize that the Tab S is a significant upgrade in some of the specs, but in my real world use of both tablets I haven't really noticed the Tab S being mindblowingly superior to the Note 10.1 2014.
It is a perfect tablet for my wife, but I still need/want the S-pen and root, so the Note 10.1 2014 is the better tablet for me. My wife also got the Tab 4 10.1 to use an eReader while exercising (didn't want to trash her Tab S at the gym). The Tab 4 is a nice tablet, too, but I put the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab S as fairly equal, but the Tab 4 is several notches below both of those overall.
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You won't notice.it has the same specs as 2014 tab..same processor, etc....It's not worth $500 for a Amoled screen.
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I have both actually but gave the Note to my girlfriend and kept the Tab S.
I've always liked Samsung Amoled screens so that was the main reason I switched.
The note part wasn't as important in my decision when I intially purchased and I rarely used it.
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You won't notice.it has the same specs as 2014 tab..same processor, etc....It's not worth $500 for a Amoled screen.
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I noticed a difference. Again, not mindblowing, but there is a difference. The processor in the Tab S is an octacore processor versus a quadcore, so they're not the same processor. The Tab S is also thinner, lighter, and comes with a lot more new TouchWiz bells & whistles that the Note 10.1 2014 does not have even after the Kitkat update. The Amoled screen is being reviewed as arguably the best tablet screen available. And considering what I paid for my Note 10.1 2014 right after it was released, $500 is a steal for a tablet that's actually slightly better.
All that being said, if you're like me, then you bought the Note 10.1 2014 for a reason -- particularly the Note features. Otherwise I would most definitely own the Tab S.
Yeah the tab S is the later model to the note 10.1 2014 edition.
I was just thinking of purchasing it too, mainly cause I see it advertised
But I've rooted my device and you guys say that the tab S cant be rooted?
Cause it hasn't been done yet?
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The processor in the Tab S is an octacore processor versus a quadcore, so they're not the same processor.
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The S' use S-800/Adreno 330 and Exynos 5420/Mali T604 just like all of Samsung's high-end tablets (Note 10.1-14, Pro's). The only difference being earlier 10+" LTE tablets all got S-800 while with the majority of S' are Exynos/LTE. The U.S. carrier S' still use S-800 and there may be other isolated examples too.
The Tab S is also thinner, lighter
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And bigger.
And comes with a lot more new TouchWiz bells & whistles that the Note 10.1 2014 does not have even after the Kitkat update.
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M-UX is the only thing fundamentally different. Everything else works exactly the same but has a fresher interface, darker interface to help AMOLED battery life, or both. There are dozens of pages in the S forums complaining about lag. Same thing on the Pro forums. 4.4 on the N10.1-14 is pretty much lag free; especially compared to the 4.3 launch s/w. So M-UX is one "bell and whistle" I'm glad we were able to avoid.
The Amoled screen is being reviewed as arguably the best tablet screen available.
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Note's in general are pitched at productivity and creation users. That audience would be miserable with an AMOLED display. It's beautiful for video where it's quite battery efficient but on light colors, like most productivity and creation apps are, people would be crying. The S' battery life on whites would absolutely kill me because that's where I spend the majority of my time.
I have been using the Note 10.1 2014 at work and really like it. Just got a Tab S to play with and it's pretty nice, thought I would hate the bronze color but looks very sophisticated. The Tab S feels much snappier than the Note 10.1 for some reason even though they are both running 4.4.2. I also really like Magazine UX, wish it would come to the Note but being this late in the game seems doubtful. The screen on the Tab S is also BEAUTIFUL, and the tablet does feel lighter. I do like the factory book cover case for the Note better than the one for the Tab S. Honestly I'm torn, I like the Pen on the Note but the snappier feel and Magazine UX has me wanting to switch. I will see how battery life compares before I decide.
Is magazine UX that good? Its interface layout is similar to windows 8 right?
I really like simplicity when its used in note 3 (NOVA). But I can see how that magazine UX interface might work with the tablets
.p.s love the note pro keyboard on my 10.1 2014 EDITION:good:
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Is magazine UX that good? Its interface layout is similar to windows 8 right?
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M-UX was originally supposed to be a complete UI for Samsung's tablets. There were widgets for all of Samsung's apps and most major apps. There was the ability to add a short-cut as a small tile for every app on the device. So you could literally have all your home screens configured using M-UX and in addition to being cleaner and more modern looking it allowed better use of display real estate because widgets were edge-to-edge. None of that happened. Most likely because Google had a stroke. So M-UX ended up being a mandatory home page, has limited widgets for Samsung's apps, and no way to add any type of app short-cuts. And some of the traditional widgets we have are now "M-UX only" which sucks if you like to group your apps and widgets in to like-categories on separate home pages. There's no question that M-UX slows down tablets that use it.
Here's just one of the many threads in the S forum talking about lag. There are a bunch of threads and hundreds of posts. The Pro's have M-UX and there are similar posts. In both forums people coming from a N10.1-14 (on 4.4) complain about the lag on the Pro's and S' in comparison.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/disappointed-tab-s-t2803856
I'm not a lag freak so would probably get a Tab S if I were a consumption user. The only real benefit of the S over the N10.1-14 is its AMOLED display. It's got a .5" larger display but its dimensions go up proportionately. It's actually got a lower PPI than the N10.1-14 so for reading and browsing in addition to the N10.1-14 having better battery life its got better PPI too. The LCD display on the N10.1-14 is great with few shortcomings and gets far better battery life on whites than the S'. So how big a deal better contrast on dark colors is to you determines how much better an S would be over a N10.1-14. I'm a huge S Pen and productivity user so the S' really aren't an option for me anyway so I have no ax to grind.
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But I've rooted my device and you guys say that the tab S cant be rooted?
Cause it hasn't been done yet?
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I think they are referring to TowelRoot, which can root certain Snapdragon devices WITHOUT tripping the Knox warranty e-fuse.
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The S' use S-800/Adreno 330 and Exynos 5420/Mali T604 just like all of Samsung's high-end tablets (Note 10.1-14, Pro's). The only difference being earlier 10+" LTE tablets all got S-800 while with the majority of S' are Exynos/LTE. The U.S. carrier S' still use S-800 and there may be other isolated examples too.
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The only example I'm talking about is my wife's SM-T800 Galaxy Tab S 10.5, which the official Samsung specs specifically state:
CPU
PROCESSOR SPEED, TYPE
Exynos™ 5 Octa (1.9Ghz Quadcore + 1.3 Ghz Quadcore)
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SM-T800NTSAXAR
My SM-P600 Note 10.1 2014 does not have this processor.
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M-UX is the only thing fundamentally different. Everything else works exactly the same but has a fresher interface, darker interface to help AMOLED battery life, or both. There are dozens of pages in the S forums complaining about lag. Same thing on the Pro forums. 4.4 on the N10.1-14 is pretty much lag free; especially compared to the 4.3 launch s/w. So M-UX is one "bell and whistle" I'm glad we were able to avoid.
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I have spent a lot of time on both devices (physically in-hand), and the interface as a whole, as well as the entire feature set, are significantly different, even the basic "Android" settings menus are organized rather different. M-UX is just one feature in that different interface.
All one has to do is go back to the beginnings of this particular forum, as well as read the Note 10.1 2014 reviews to see all the complaints about lag. At one time that was all that was being discussed on this forum. Dozens of people were returning their devices solely because of lag.
For what it's worth, I never experienced lag on my Note 10.1 2014 or the Tab S.
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Note's in general are pitched at productivity and creation users. That audience would be miserable with an AMOLED display. It's beautiful for video where it's quite battery efficient but on light colors, like most productivity and creation apps are, people would be crying. The S' battery life on whites would absolutely kill me because that's where I spend the majority of my time.
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I'm not miserable with the Tab S's display, and I am predominately a Note 10.1 2014 user (the Tab S is my wife's tablet). She solely uses her Tab S as an eReader and web browser, and her battery lasts longer than my Note 10.1 2014 when used for the same purposes/time.
Again, I really like the note features on my Note 10.1 2014, which is why I still own/use it instead of a Tab S, but in just about every other way, the Tab S is the superior tablet. Not lightyears superior, but still superior.
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My SM-P600 Note 10.1 2014 does not have this processor.
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Yes, it does. The N10.1-14, Pro's, and S' all use either Exynos 5420 or a Snapdragon S-800. No Wi-Fi only version of any of them except for the Pro 8.4 ever used anything but Exynos 5420. The SGS5's "eight core chip" is Exynos 5422 which is a modified version of 5420 with HMP enabled. The "eight core chip" in the Note 4 is 5433 which is even newer. So your SM-P600 Wi-Fi N10.1-14 has the same SoC as every Wi-Fi only Tab S. The SM-P601 (3G) uses the same chip. The SM-P605 (LTE) uses S-800. The only change between the Tab S and earlier tabs is that all of the earlier LTE tablets had S-800 where the majority of LTE S' moved to Exynos 5420. That said, considering they all use identical h/w, run 4.4.2, and have similar Samsung s/w the performance differences people claim really don't make a lot of sense. If anything I tend to believe that people complaining about the Pro's and S' being slower because of M-UX is true because of the additional resources it consumes.
I have the note 10.1. I considered the tab s but I can't live without the ESPN especially now that I found the app MyScript stylus beta
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Dang auto correct, s-pen i meant
ESPN haha .... But I agree ... I have gotton use to the S-pen aswell, would be bizziare having a tablet without it it I reckon :/
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Yes, it does. The N10.1-14, Pro's, and S' all use either Exynos 5420 or a Snapdragon S-800. No Wi-Fi only version of any of them except for the Pro 8.4 ever used anything but Exynos 5420. The SGS5's "eight core chip" is Exynos 5422 which is a modified version of 5420 with HMP enabled. The "eight core chip" in the Note 4 is 5433 which is even newer. So your SM-P600 Wi-Fi N10.1-14 has the same SoC as every Wi-Fi only Tab S. The SM-P601 (3G) uses the same chip. The SM-P605 (LTE) uses S-800. The only change between the Tab S and earlier tabs is that all of the earlier LTE tablets had S-800 where the majority of LTE S' moved to Exynos 5420. That said, considering they all use identical h/w, run 4.4.2, and have similar Samsung s/w the performance differences people claim really don't make a lot of sense. If anything I tend to believe that people complaining about the Pro's and S' being slower because of M-UX is true because of the additional resources it consumes.
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I stand corrected, but I do wish to point out (and know for a fact) that Samsung "corrected" its specs on the Note 10.1 2014, because when it was first released and I was considering buying it, the CPU was listed only as a 1.9 ghz quadcore -- not an Octa and there was no mention of the 1.3ghz quadcore combination in the specs. I came to the Note 10.1 2014 from the dualcore Acer A500, so I found the quadcore an acceptable upgrade. An Octa would've blown my mind.
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I stand corrected..
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No worries. I wasn't trying to prove you wrong but since the topic is a direct comparison against the Tab S I thought the similarities between the two should be known. All Samsung's high-end tablets since the N10.1-14 was released last year are architecturally the same. And with the exception of the N10.1-14 not getting M-UX run near identical s/w too. They also push the exact same number of pixels; the PPI goes up and down depending on physical display size.
The S' really should have at least Exynos 5422 and S-801 or, even better, Exynos 5433 and S-805. I'm guessing Samsung re-used the existing high-end tablet architecture to save on development and build costs. The N10.1-14 is due for a refresh. It'll be interesting to see what direction Samsung goes h/w wise. They've been testing a 10" 4K LCD tablet display and that would need Exynos 5433/S-805. I doubt the next Note will be AMOLED because it's awful on light colors battery wise and Note's are all about productivity and creation where the apps tend to be light colored.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...d-mwc-reveal?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Name: Galaxy Note 8.0
Product numbers: GT-N5100 (Wifi), GT-N5110 (Wifi/3G)
Battery: 4600mAh
Dimensions: 211.3x136.3x7.95mm
Weight: 330 grams
Screen: 8.0-inch Super Clear LCD @ 1280x800 resolution
Data: Quad-band EDGE, quad-band HSPA+ up to 21.1Mbps down, 5.76Mbps up (GT-N5110 only)
Cameras: 5MP rear, 1.3MP front
RAM: 2GB
Storage: 16/32GB options, expandable via microSD card
OS: Android 4.2 Jelly Bean
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smaller battery than the 7.7, no OLED screen and compared to the ipad mini, the benchmarks seem lower (there is a link on sammobile comparing them). I do hope the performance will be better. If priced right, should be a nice tablet, but I feel there might a lot of tablets introduced at MWC this year.
It seems like they are going for the budget tablet crowd this time, that is too bad but who can blame them with the success of the 200 dollar tablets.
I really wanted to get a 8-9 inch upgrade for the 7.7 but worse battery life and screen will probably be a deal breaker for me.
No need. Quite vanilla. Pass.
Seems that 7.7 is srill best buy Got mine today! Awesome tab, not small, not large, and ability to use as phone, just superb!
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SLCD... meh...
unless this one packs the new octa-core exynos that will be the time i may look into it
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SLCD... meh...
unless this one packs the new octa-core exynos that will be the time i may look into it
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rumor says same as Note 10.1 & 2
Doubt this will sway me over to upgrade. The specs look ****ty.
I just picked up a Nexus 10 and may eventually drop my 7.7 depending on usage scenarios. Lack of a completed CM rom (9, 10 or 10.1) due to Samsung is the main culprit. Maintainers for Exynos4 devices may not last much longer, which sucks ;[
on a brighter note, you can use it as your gps navigator, or you can even let the screen on for some time without worrying about burn ins.
Its not close. It simply sucks compared with the 7.7
Hopefully we'll get a JB update for our Tabs that will allow us to keep it long enough to see an update worth upgrading
Honestly Samsung can do better. Like a 1080p Super Amoled screen a battery a least the same size as the 7.7 (Come on the Note III is rumored to have a 5,000mA battery !! Bigger than this crap 8" Note !! Something' wrong there !), etc...
Would explain why Samsung are reluctant to provide the JB update for the 7.7 (at least not until these new tablets are available). 7.7 + JB would be tough to beat even with older processor
Guys the market has moved enormously since the 7.7 was announced and then launched.
When the 7.7 was announced the only real competition was Apple and the 7.7 was priced against the Ipad and component costs could therefore be quite high.
Since then prices for tablets have tumbled about 50% and as a consequence component costs have got squeezed.
While we all love the SuperA screens on our tabs I suspect the costings mean it's unlikely to be on another product anytime soon, everything after including phones has been Pentile screen AFAIK.
The next 'flexible' screen looks really interesting but I hate to think of the manufacturing cost and therefore how much the tablet will cost......
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I think breaking the current pixel barrier on 7 inch screens is something that all of the manufacturers are struggling with, especially with price expectations being what they are now compared to when the 7.7 was first released.
product sheet revealed also...Quad-Core 1.6 Ghz. Exynos, I'd imagine.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-young-galaxy-x-cover-2/
My guess...the slightly smaller battery & Super Clear LCD will put it right around $299-$349 price point
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product sheet revealed also...Quad-Core 1.6 Ghz. Exynos, I'd imagine.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-young-galaxy-x-cover-2/
My guess...the slightly smaller battery & Super Clear LCD will put it right around $299-$349 price point
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Any thoughts on how that display will compare to AMOLED?
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Any thoughts on how that display will compare to AMOLED?
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Comparison testing has shown AMOLED screens to have higher contrasts, deeper blacks, etc. Also better outside viewing & power consumption.
Not to say that Sony's Super Clear LCD is terrible...on the contrary, it can really shine in the right scenarios. I really think price point is the sole reason the Note 8.0 will be featuring it.
I'd be willing to place money on this being a sub $300 device
they should've made two of these, one aimed for the low-mid market (w/ LCD) and the one aimed for people with deep pocket
seriously, this is not a replacement for out 7.7 it's just another Note, just like the note 10.1 was made not as a replacement for Tab 10.1
Too bad, I was hoping for a 7.7 Note w/ the SAMOLED+ screen. I wouldn't even care as much about higher resolution, as I'm fine w/ the 7.7's and same specs as Note2 would satisfy me. What I do want is the stylus w/ airview, & MultiView as I sometimes wish my Note2 and 7.7 were one device.
^likewise, but what sammy did was lower down the bar just to compete with a lower spec'd iPad Mini, even our old 7.7 will whip the ipad easily, I've seen the mini, compared it side by side with my 7.7 and immediately, there's a striking difference in screen quality and resolution.
Then I remembered, the Galaxy tab 10.1 2 is another "DOWNGRADE" from the original 10.1
hey sammy should start making a new low budget tablet line tagged under NEBULA series LOL
well... at least it still has the earpiece?
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/24/leaked-samsung-galaxy-note-8-0/
honestly i am not sure who to blame here. Google decided to use a horrible ui for all tablets from 4.2 forward essentially using just a enlarged phone ui.
So in response samsung just made a huge phone hardware...
5.7 full hd display
3gb ram
13mp camera and many more
The next generation Galaxy Note phablet from Samsung is one of the most anticipated devices of the year, so understandably rumors about it aren't hard to come by. According to latest report the Galaxy Note III will be announced two days before IFA 2013 kicks off - on September 4.
The report also says Samsung Galaxy Note III is said to sport a 5.7" Super AMOLED display, rather than the 6" unit that was most frequently mentioned so far. The 1080p resolution is still expected to feature a Snapdragon 800 chipset or an Exynos 5 Octa processor along with 3 GB of RAM.
Furthermore, the third generation Galaxy Note phablet is said to come out with a 13 megapixel rear camera and will be slightly thinner than the Galaxy Note II with its profile measuring 8mm.
Unfortunately, there is no official word from Samsung just yet, but the IFA 2013 launch seems inevitable, considering the strong competition in the phablet club.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_iii_to_be_unveiled_at_ifa_2013_-news-6327.php
I'm still sporting my Infuse and will be in line for one of these. Just became available for an upgrade.....great timing.
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5.7 and 1080p 99% pentile , with a so so chip that will have the same relative 3D power than the note at 720p.
Skipping to note 3.
Call me again when they launch a 1080p non-pentile with better processor and 6" without bezel to put the frontal samsung logo.
As I feared, the Note 3 will be a minor update to the Note 2. Samsung needs to bring a new phablet to remain competitive in this market segment and so it decided to fit the S4's camera, fit a new processor with dubious real life performance improvement, slightly increase the size of the screen and make it FHD to keep it up with the Joneses. Big deal...
Note 4, please.
This does NOT make me anxious for the Note 3 to be released.
Seems they want me to pay hundreds of dollars just to upgrade to a 1080p display that's slightly larger, and I bet we'll lose A LOT of battery life too (because of the bigger/higher resolution display).
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/18/first-alleged-samsung-galaxy-note-iii-images-surface/
Did you guys check this? I hope its fake. Plz samsung change the designnn.
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People will not go for Note 3 for any minor updates. I have seen lots who are selling their good old Samsung and going for Xolo and MicroMax in India.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
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People will not go for Note 3 for any minor updates.
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I tend to agree with you. Of course there are always consumers who want to have the latest phone, but considering the price tag and that the Note series consumer is, IMO, a bit more tech savvy than the S series consumer, I believe that the Note 3 sales will be disappointing.
I look at the price of my Note 2 and the price tag of my laptop and they are about the same. When people look at the size of my Note 2 and ask "is that a cellphone?" I always answer: "actually, it is a pocket computer that also makes phone calls", 'cause that's the way I see my Note 2 (and in that perspective, 5.5" isn't too big).
Now, I'm not going to sell my laptop just because the new generation has some minor hardware updates. I don't really need them and it does not make any financial sense to spend money on a new laptop when my current one suits my needs perfectly. Specially in these times when we must think twice before spending our money. This reasoning also applies to my "pocket computer that also makes phone calls", i.e., my Note 2.
The two things that I really miss in my everyday use of the Note 2 is a slightly bigger screen to take notes, browse and read PDFs, and improved sunlight legibility. A camera with better low light quality and an image stabilizer that actually works would also be handy. The Note 3 brings none of this. Hence, I'll save my money for whatever future device offers me the features I really need, Samsung or not.
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5.7 and 1080p 99% pentile , with a so so chip that will have the same relative 3D power than the note at 720p.
Skipping to note 3.
Call me again when they launch a 1080p non-pentile with better processor and 6" without bezel to put the frontal samsung logo.
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I'm really disappointed in Note III specs, I'm already looking for this beast: Sony Xperia Z Ultra :good:
I used Note 2 since the first day it was released, which makes it about almost 10 months old already. And to me, with the direction Samsung is heading by releasing so many variants, S4 Zoom, S4 Active, S4 Snap 800, S4 LTE Snap 600, S4 GSM Octa and so on makes me wanna puke, and I'm pretty sure there'll be at least 2-3 variants of Note 3. Hence, for once, I'm going to the brand that I hated so much last year, but now I've come to respect in terms of developer support and that is Sony. I'll go with Xperia Z Ultra. I don't need the S-Pen since I've used it for less than 50 times, so with Z Ultra, if I need to jot down notes, I'll take some pen or pencil and be done with it.Plus, the ROMs will have less bloatware too :victory::victory::victory: and that's an epic win for me
Or maybe, just maybe, we could actually wait for Samsung to reveal Note 3, and then discus on specs and if it's worth of upgrade.
I don't think I will upgrade to the Note III. I am getting my Note II in a few days, but I have used the Note II since launch date since I bought one for my dad. I am sure we can see a 2.3-2.5 GHz Snapdragon 800 or Exynos Octa Core Processor with 13 MP camera, 1080p resolution, a screen around 5.9", 2-4 GB of RAM (probably 3), 3600-3800 mAh battery, upgraded S-Pen support, a bunch of the S4 features, some unique features for the Note III, non-pentile display too, etc. The only things that I see as an upgrade are the processor and RAM really. The screen resolution is nice, but it is not necessary/ground breaking to have for app usage since devs support many devices. The camera will be amazing like the S4's, the battery life will be compensating the increase in screen resolution power. I wouldn't be surprised if we see three Note III's, an LTE model, an international HSPA+ (N7200), and LTE-Advanced model.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Clearer-image-of-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-III-leaks_id45553
Latest from rumours.
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Alexei Volkoff said:
IOf course there are always consumers who want to have the latest phone, but considering the price tag and that the Note series consumer is, IMO, a bit more tech savvy than the S series consumer, I believe that the Note 3 sales will be disappointing.
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There will be people who always need to buy any model or brand as I do see a good sales being an authorised reseller for many brands, but the market prediction is low on Note 3. Just need to wait and watch..
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There will be people who always need to buy any model or brand as I do see a good sales being an authorised reseller for many brands, but the market prediction is low on Note 3. Just need to wait and watch..
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I cautiously agree.
But at the end of the day, the stats on the final product will make it or break it I think. Every website is throwing out any rumor that they can find, and I'm not believing most of it.
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I cautiously agree.
But at the end of the day, the stats on the final product will make it or break it I think. Every website is throwing out any rumor that they can find, and I'm not believing most of it.
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true, not only website.. even the so called "branded companies" throws a lot of rumors :good:, personal experience!
I also used the Note 2 since launch date (10 months). The more I use it the more i appreciate it for it's battery life, performance and a nice big screen. I never had a phone that I liked this much. I usually own a phone for 2 years so this should last me till Note 4.
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I also used the Note 2 since launch date (10 months). The more I use it the more i appreciate it for it's battery life, performance and a nice big screen. I never had a phone that I liked this much. I usually own a phone for 2 years so this should last me till Note 4.
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I have had this note 2 for less than a month and I love it. Will get the note 3 because I know it will use the new Arm processor. I really think it sucks that Sammy used basically the same from the note 2 except for more ram and two more cores.
When you look at what is everything with Snapdragon quad, you can see how much more performance it provides.
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The mods have permitted us a sticky thread dedicated to discussion other devices. Let's try to focus these discussions there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2376459
Check this out...new gen exynos octa core..3 gb dram...just wait for upcoming note 3
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...emory-unit-may-debut-in-galaxy-note-3-1168344
I have and use my Note 8 for work when I don't want to carry my Win 8 tablet, but this news of the Tegra Note for ~$200 is intriguing - especially with the performance the Tegra 4 will bring at that price. And stylus support? Wow! I'll have to wait and see what reviews will look like.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7508/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review/7
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/11/12/tegra-note-pre-order/
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/evga-tegra-note-7/4505-3126_7-35831314.html
Honestly I prefer the side-by-side multiwindow that a rooted Touchwiz gives you, though, as that's pretty useful to me when I do use it for work (paired w/ the 2GB of RAM on the Note 8, to the 1GB on this device gives it some edge in the multitasking front as well).
Who knows, though? Due to Nvidia releasing this as a reference model, maybe some manufacturer will license it and sell w/ 2GB and someone figures out how to add the multi-window to it.
On a performance comparison, the Tegra 4 DESTROYS all the other android tablets in this price range, though. Also the footprint is smaller so it would actually fit better in some of my jacket pockets where the Note 8 wouldn't. Also - front mounted speakers!
Tegra note uses a passive stylus, Note 8 uses an active one. All of the features that make the Note 8 unique are not available to the Tegra note. It is no more competition to the Note than a Corolla is to a porsche, despite both being cars.
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I pre-ordered an evga tegra note for my wife. Not sure when newegg is shipping- they show it out of stock already.
I don't think it is competition for the note 8, I know it is. My wife wanted a note taking tablet and I got the tegra instead of the note 8, which I use. Good pen input is the only reason to get a note 8, imo. If the tegra has decent pen input it will certainly give the note 8 a run for it's money.
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Tegra note uses a passive stylus, Note 8 uses an active one. All of the features that make the Note 8 unique are not available to the Tegra note. It is no more competition to the Note than a Corolla is to a porsche, despite both being cars.
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By passive stylus do you mean capacitive? I know the Note series and Windows Surface use similar technology found in Wacom tablets, utilizing a digitizer. There doesn't seem to be much competition on the Android side for the Note tablets.
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The only reason I bought the Note 8 was for the stylus and thr ability to project it to a big screen(MHL).
I didn't need the quad core processor and 2 gb ram. The work is not that demanding. The microHDMI on the tegra is much better than the MHL.
The Tegra Note seems like an ideal tablet, even 1 GB ram is ok, but I am concerned that the 7.0 inch size could feel a bit cramped.
I expect the Xolo Tegra note to launch in India for about 15K
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I think it's great to have another tablet with a stylus, especially at that price point. The specs aren't as high as the Note 8, but I don't think folks will feel that as much as they feel the difference in price. The most important point of distinction is 7 vs 8. The 30% difference in viewing area really matters. Steve Jobs had it right when he said a 7 inch screen compromised a tablet's functionality.
Here's a mathematical comparison:
http://www.displaywars.com/7-inch-16x10-vs-8-inch-16x10
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Bonisaur said:
By passive stylus do you mean capacitive? I know the Note series and Windows Surface use similar technology found in Wacom tablets, utilizing a digitizer. There doesn't seem to be much competition on the Android side for the Note tablets.
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Basically, yes. Just a better one than those $10 ones on Amazon. Just a slightly better version of your finger.
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I think it's great to have another tablet with a stylus, especially at that price point. The specs aren't as high as the Note 8, but I don't think folks will feel that as much as they feel the difference in price. The most important point of distinction is 7 vs 8. The 30% difference in viewing area really matters. Steve Jobs had it right when he said a 7 inch screen compromised a tablet's functionality.
Here's a mathematical comparison:
http://www.displaywars.com/7-inch-16x10-vs-8-inch-16x10
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The OP implied that the new Tegra tablet is competition for the Note. That's not the case based on the different styli alone. Anyone who want to write or create with a stylus needs a Wacom one. The iPad can utilize a stylus as well, but it's not the same.
But have you guys seen the last video from Nvidia? Shows a lag free writting and painting with Tegra Note and his stylus, with Galaxy Note we have a lot of lantency. I make beautiful landscapes with my galaxy note, in the start is very good, but it increase the lag as i paint the landscape.
The Note 8.0 is far superior despite anything Anandtech claims. I have no lag with my stylus, and neither have other online reviews.
Plus every 7 inch tablet is crap compared to an 8 inch.
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After watching the Nvidia made video demo of it on youtube, the guy tries to act like the tablet apps are Nvidia apps, but they are not. He even demos that "Write" app, which to me looks like his stylus lags when he writes. There is no way its better than the pen on the Samsung Note tablets.
There is also no way a nub tip like that will feel like a pen when writing. But this is just my opinion.
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After watching the Nvidia made video demo of it on youtube, the guy tries to act like the tablet apps are Nvidia apps, but they are not. He even demos that "Write" app, which to me looks like his stylus lags when he writes. There is no way its better than the pen on the Samsung Note tablets.
There is also no way a nub tip like that will feel like a pen when writing. But this is just my opinion.
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the lag may be due to settings. you can set the pen/stylus lag, (lag is a lot less than compared to Samsung). not sure about note taking, but the TegraN7 is decent in this area. the drawing app seems much better.
i do feel that the stylus for general touch screen use on the TegraN7 is much more responsive than any Samsung i've tried.
Does anyone here have hands on experience with both devices? If Tegra note can provide decent stylus based writing and drawing support (even with capacitative styluses) it's going to be a big deal for student population looking for note-taking and sketching aid...
I don't think the Tegra Note will be any competition.... However... I would like to side load some of those apps onto my Samsung. Any idea where we might find a system dump or pulled apks?
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I don't think the Tegra Note will be any competition.... However... I would like to side load some of those apps onto my Samsung. Any idea where we might find a system dump or pulled apks?
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I was looking for something else when I stumbled across this thread so I thought I'd weigh in. I've had an Advent Tegra Note for a day or so now.... Firstly, it's very fast. It makes my Note 2 feel a bit anaemic. However, the screen is poor. I don't mind the resolution but the back light is uneven and colours are very bland. Whites look kind of creamy yellow like an AMOLED panel, but it lacks the punchy colours to make up for that so it just looks bland. My partner's Tab 3 8.0 has a far superior screen in comparison, even though the DPI is lower. This is also my first vanilla android device and I have to say I think it sucks. I think I'd rather have Samsung or HTC's bloatware on balance.The stylus is very responsive, more so than on my Note 2, but of course you just don't have the apps and system wide integration on board out of the box to fully take advantage of it.
Did I mention how fast it is? That really does make up for it so far. It's like a battered old car painted in grey primer that has a v12 engine hidden under the hood. And it's cheap!
I would go with galaxy note 8.0
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Tegra note uses a passive stylus, Note 8 uses an active one. All of the features that make the Note 8 unique are not available to the Tegra note. It is no more competition to the Note than a Corolla is to a porsche, despite both being cars.
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I would go with galaxy note 8.0 because there are a lot more features it comes with. Also the screen colors do look better and I think it is plenty sharp enough for it size as in resolution so thing will still look good. The tablet is still really fast and should be smooth in hardcore gaming. Also if you really wanted stock android for the launcher (home screen and app drawer) you can just download a custom launcher like apex launcher or nova launcher to customize so it looks just like stock android. which is what I do. And coming from stock android , it gets a little boring after a while so that is why I also use launchers to make different themes.
I've had my Note 8 for awhile now, and like i said in my first post, i think it's great. It is getting to be an older model now and if i was looking to buy one, that factor would lower it on my list considering how fast Samsung abandons its models for upgrades. With ART coming soon to replace Dalvik and the potential performance gains that come with that, i'd want to invest in a device that has a good chance of getting it. One thing i don't trust Samsung for is keeping older devices current with Android versions.
NVIDIA Tegra Note 7 is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0
rEVOLVE said:
I have and use my Note 8 for work when I don't want to carry my Win 8 tablet, but this news of the Tegra Note for ~$200 is intriguing - especially with the performance the Tegra 4 will bring at that price. And stylus support? Wow! I'll have to wait and see what reviews will look like.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7508/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review/7
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/11/12/tegra-note-pre-order/
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/evga-tegra-note-7/4505-3126_7-35831314.html
Honestly I prefer the side-by-side multiwindow that a rooted Touchwiz gives you, though, as that's pretty useful to me when I do use it for work (paired w/ the 2GB of RAM on the Note 8, to the 1GB on this device gives it some edge in the multitasking front as well).
Who knows, though? Due to Nvidia releasing this as a reference model, maybe some manufacturer will license it and sell w/ 2GB and someone figures out how to add the multi-window to it.
On a performance comparison, the Tegra 4 DESTROYS all the other android tablets in this price range, though. Also the footprint is smaller so it would actually fit better in some of my jacket pockets where the Note 8 wouldn't. Also - front mounted speakers!
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NVIDIA Tegra Note 7 is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0. This tablet is significantly more expensive thanks to the included active stylus technology. A 16GB version of this tablet will run $359 or so.
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staplebox said:
I pre-ordered an evga tegra note for my wife. Not sure when newegg is shipping- they show it out of stock already.
I don't think it is competition for the note 8, I know it is. My wife wanted a note taking tablet and I got the tegra instead of the note 8, which I use. Good pen input is the only reason to get a note 8, imo. If the tegra has decent pen input it will certainly give the note 8 a run for it's money.
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I have both. The tegra 7 will be a xmas gift, but I've been doing heavy testing, including playing games on it that note 8 can't even play. Really hate to say it but the tegra note 7 is better in every way except the stylus stylus interface for writing. For art applications they nearly equal. Writing is not that great on the 8, though, so the 8 been a big waste of money for what was a business investment for me. I have had other issues with the 8. I also have s S4, and the Samsung gimmicks you mentioned are not usable in my experience. I am unhappy about the fact that the Tegra Note is superior, but I will still relinquish it Xmas morning to its intended recipient. Again, due to several issues with the Note 8, I cannot even use it for its intended use a business tool.
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NVIDIA Tegra Note 7 is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0. This tablet is significantly more expensive thanks to the included active stylus technology. A 16GB version of this tablet will run $359 or so.
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I have both. The tegra 7 will be a xmas gift, but I've been doing heavy testing, including playing games on it that note 8 can't even play. Really hate to say it but the tegra note 7 is better in every way except the stylus stylus interface for writing. For art applications they nearly equal. Writing is not that great on the 8, though, so the 8 been a big waste of money for what was a business investment for me. I have had other issues with the 8. I also have s S4, and the Samsung gimmicks you mentioned are not usable in my experience. I am unhappy about the fact that the Tegra Note is superior, but I will still relinquish it Xmas morning to its intended recipient. Again, due to several issues with the Note 8, I cannot even use it for its intended use a business tool.
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Please share your specific observations particularly with how you think the Tegra Note is better than the Note 8 in writing and almost equal in art or drawing as there are some here who automatically thought otherwise without even trying it out. Seems they are quick to condemn it as if they are threatened by this cheaper yet more powerful competition.
The thing I'm curious about is that difference in RAM. i know as I'm painting with the Note8, and there are more and more strokes on the picture as the piece progresses, it does start to lag and slow down. The Tegra Note is faster, yet has half of the RAM, so maybe it's still susceptible to this issue or worse?
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Tegra note uses a passive stylus, Note 8 uses an active one. All of the features that make the Note 8 unique are not available to the Tegra note. It is no more competition to the Note than a Corolla is to a porsche, despite both being cars.
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Which one is better?
-Featurewise.. As well as in my opinion.. the Galaxy Note is way better compared to the Tegra note
Why?
- 1280*800 HD display (vs 1024*768 non-HD display)
- 1.6Ghz Qaud core processor (vs 1Ghz Dual core processor)
- 2Gb RAM (vs 512MB RAM)
- microSD slot
What the tablet can do?
Well it can do most basic purpose you require a bulky laptop for. I.e Internet browsing, facebook, twitter, watching movies, youtube, playing games, blogs, reading books, taking notes, chat, voice call, video call etc.
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Which one is better?
-Featurewise.. As well as in my opinion.. the Galaxy Note is way better compared to the Tegra note
Why?
- 1280*800 HD display (vs 1024*768 non-HD display)
- 1.6Ghz Qaud core processor (vs 1Ghz Dual core processor)
- 2Gb RAM (vs 512MB RAM)
- microSD slot
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I think the specs you cite are not for the $200 evga tegra note 7, which has
-microsd
-1 gig ram
- micro sd
- 1200 x 800 ips
-1.8 ghz tegra4 quad
there aren't custom roms yet, but it's rootable and the bootloader can be unlocked. it shares a lot with the nvidia shield, enough that root tools and other work is greatly aided.
I'm using an hp slate 8 just now - same soc, 8 inch, 1600 x 1200 display, no stylus included.
I had it rooted a few hours out of the box and and bootloader unlocked within a day.
It is a benchmark beast, 16k quadrant, 3500 or so on geekbench 2
I'm very curious to get my hands on the nvidia stylus and apps. The aspect ratio is great for me. it is heavy - about a pound - and has a battery about 25% larger than than the note. Time will tell how much that really means.
No ir blaster and no smart wake and a very hard to find/press power button are annoying. I wish it had cap buttons on the bezel, plenty of room for them.
Color accuracy is better on the Samsung - I've been struck by that in comparison to every other tab, using photos I took myself.
Speakers are better on the note - louder and/or better ported.
The hdmi out is going to be very helpful on the hp.
i was wondering if we leave alone the s pen feature , whether the newly launched galaxy tab s be a better option than the note 10.1 2014. ? in terms of screen , battery , performance etc.
I always prefer SuperAMOLED screen. (oversaturate color)
I think next Note Pro series will use SuperAMOLED display soon.
(CPU /RAM / GPU / Battery may be not much different) :silly:
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i was wondering if we leave alone the s pen feature
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People who "leave alone" S Pen probably shouldn't have bought a Note-series in the first place.
Whether the newly launched galaxy tab s be a better option than the note 10.1 2014?
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As a consumption device? Yes. Its display alone makes it a better consumption device. As a productivity device? Highly doubtful because of the many S Pen-related features unique to the Note-series. It comes with a pretty cool keyboard accessory which will be intriguing to people but also (as of now) only comes in a 16GB version which is a fail with 4.4's external SD card limitations (for the unrooted).
screen , battery, performance
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The Tab S' aren't using S-801 (like the SGS5 they're patterned after) so it's highly likely their using the same h/w all Samsung's tablets starting with the N10.1-14 are using which mean S-800/Exynos 5420 (with HMP disabled) .That means outside whatever the display impacts it'll perform exactly the same as our device and the Pro's. Energy usage wise, AMOLED does better on blacks and LCD does better on whites. Our battery is larger at 8,220mAh vs. the Tab S' at 7,900mAh. For people that watch a lot of video the Tab S should last longer than the N10.1-14 with the opposite occuring on web browsing.
As for dimensions the Tab S is thinner and lighter. It's also bigger but you get a 1/2 inch more display area in the process. It has a lower PPI but it may not be PenTile so we'll have to see after it's reviewed how, outside being AMOLED, it holds up in comparison. I have a N3 and am constantly bouncing back-and-forth between its AMOLED display and my N10.1-14's LCD display. I'm fine with either.
Is it worth moving from a N10.1-14 to a Tab S? I guess that's an individual determination. I'd never give up S Pen so I have no interest in it. The 16GB limitation is also a turn-off. I do like everything else about it but wouldn't pay the difference on what I'd be able to sell my N10.1-14 for against it's purchase price for the display and other new features. To each their own.
Best Buy claims to have an exclusive 32gb edition for pre-order...
Samsung - Galaxy Tab S 10.5 - 32GB
I love my Note tablet and rarely use the pen!
Spec wise its a top android tablet, that you can also write on
...Although I do want to check this new out.
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i was wondering if we leave alone the s pen feature , whether the newly launched galaxy tab s be a better option than the note 10.1 2014. ? in terms of screen , battery , performance etc.
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Well leaving out the S-pen seems to make the question of "which is better" kind of an obvious answer. But regardless if you already own the N10.1 it's definitely not worth the upgrade. The specs are superior, but ever so slightly. And seriously what is with Samsung releasing a new line of tablets like every goddamn month? Weren't the Tab PROs supposed the be the flagship tablets of he first half of 2014? Now we have a summer line of flagships in the "S" line before we get the new Notes in the Fall? Not to mention the plethora of budget tablets they have too. This is starting to get ridiculous. Speaking of the Note though, that's the one you'll want to wait for if you're considering upgrading IMO. The next Note 4 phablet is rumored to have beastly specs (including the snapdragon 805) and since the Note version of the tablets are basically blown up versions of the phone, you can expect similar specs on those too.
If it's for a 2.7ghz SD805, 3-4gigs of RAM, a SuperAMOLED (possibly 4k?) display, and the small things like the charging port on the side, and the micro USB 3.0 port that our 2014 version is stupidly missing then it's worth the upgrade I guess.
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i was wondering if we leave alone the s pen feature , whether the newly launched galaxy tab s be a better option than the note 10.1 2014. ? in terms of screen , battery , performance etc.
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S-pen is the reason we bought Notes. Otherwise the Tab Pro would have been the way to go, and the S is just a slicker version of that with a better screen.
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People who "leave alone" S Pen probably shouldn't have bought a Note-series in the first place.
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Welllll ... that, like so many other things, is answered by "it depends".
I bought the OG Note 10.1 (N8000) grey-market 'cause of the features: AT&T-capable 3G WAN, 4 Exynos cores, 2GB RAM, Micro-SD expansion and a bright, 10" screen; in my case to get those features (that nobody else had at the time on any tablet easy to get in the US) I also got this "S-Pen" thing- which I used once or twice when I bought to try out, and never used it again.
So now comes the 2014 version, with a faster Snapdragon CPU, 3GB RAM, LTE on nearly every US carrier's band, 32GB of internal storage and expandable storage- couple that with T-Mobile US giving it to me for $0 down and 0% financing and a discount on data, and it was again a great deal for me- except this time I don't think I've even pulled the S-Pen out once
But I do know people with OG Note 10.1s that use their S-Pens quite often, even as an extension of their touch finger.
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Welllll ... that, like so many other things, is answered by "it depends".
I bought the OG Note 10.1 (N8000) grey-market 'cause of the features: AT&T-capable 3G WAN, 4 Exynos cores, 2GB RAM, Micro-SD expansion and a bright, 10" screen; in my case to get those features (that nobody else had at the time on any tablet easy to get in the US) I also got this "S-Pen" thing- which I used once or twice when I bought to try out, and never used it again.
So now comes the 2014 version, with a faster Snapdragon CPU, 3GB RAM, LTE on nearly every US carrier's band, 32GB of internal storage and expandable storage- couple that with T-Mobile US giving it to me for $0 down and 0% financing and a discount on data, and it was again a great deal for me- except this time I don't think I've even pulled the S-Pen out once
But I do know people with OG Note 10.1s that use their S-Pens quite often, even as an extension of their touch finger.
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Those are great niche examples where other features drove the decision. I'm getting a SM-P605M the next time I'm in Latin America to replace my 3G N10.1-14 so I can get LTE data and the phone features you gave up when you got a carrier N10.1-14. Just goes to show everyone has different needs and priorities.
The subject of this thread is about choosing between the Tab S and N10.1-14. For those without unique needs (like ours) and who have no need for S Pen it's pretty much a no brainer decision. It's only a matter of time before the U.S. carriers start selling the LTE version(s) so, without the dialer, folks wanting LTE without S Pen will have the same no brainer decision.
Once you start to use S-Pen and its very hard to change others devices without S-Pen. Even I rarely use S-Pen, but still I want a device with it and it can be very handy whenever I need it. :victory:
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... so I can get LTE data and the phone features you gave up when you got a carrier N10.1-14 .
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I can see where that could be a deal-breaker for some, but I ended up going from Straight Talk for my OG Note's service (which has talk and text) to an AT&T iPad data-only plan; while it was good to know that I had the ability to make calls, I just never used it (even when abroad- all my handsets are unlocked, and I'd just used those).
But I have hope that someone's going to find a way to allow the bootloader to modem down/side-grade the flash, then I'm all good, mostly so's I can say I have the feature, even if I don't use it
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But I have hope that someone's going to find a way to allow the bootloader to modem down/side-grade the flash, then
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No one could figure it out on previous gen 3/4G G-Tabs with unlocked bootloaders so it's a long shot.
I'm all good, mostly so's I can say I have the feature, even if I don't use it
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I had a 3G N10.1-12 too and am kind of hooked. Not that most here will care but here's some benefits I've found...
Talk time is like a month. I use my N10.1-14 for all my multi-hour conference calls just for battery security and to keep my phone alive for other routine calls.
It's great being able to have the phone function and S Note on one device when you're in a call. You don't have to fumble around with different devices to mute or conference other's in. In Pen Window the dialer can be made a pinhead so it's always available quickly.
Action memo works the same way it does on my N3 and the extra screen area of the N10.1-14 makes it more useful.
MMS is great with a keyboard and mouse; especially when setting up and sending group messages.
This stuff doesn't work without MMS and the dialer...
The note 4 is out so I think that it is the next in line....
Any news guys?
I hope not! Releasing another note will make it that much easier for Samsung not update our tablet
They will I reckon but maybe in a couple of months time. Will be suprised if they don't ... All Samsung are doing at the bloody minute is releasing anything and everything.
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I hope not! Releasing another note will make it that much easier for Samsung not update our tablet
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I agree. Even without releasing new tablet, samsung (seems) already abandon the note 2014 users in Europe....
I don't think they will launch a new one. It already exists tab4 series and our tablet still carry the 2014 name, I guess maybe in January or February.
I don't think it will be until next year. The note 10.1 runs the same base platform as tab 's and tab pro. I reckon 1q15
I think it may change to SuperAMOLED screen for the next 10 incher note from Samsung.
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I think it may change to SuperAMOLED screen for the next 10 incher note from Samsung.
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AMOLED sucks on whites and most productivity and creation apps use light backgrounds. Here's the battery life of the S' on light backgrounds. I'll pass.
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AMOLED sucks on whites and most productivity and creation apps use light backgrounds. Here's the battery life of the S' on light backgrounds. I'll pass.
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Personally I will be willing to take the hit. My battery life on the Note 10.1 is more than enough for me ... I regularly top it up anyway and never too far from a power socket. But yeah the screen on the S is truely amazing if you ask me, the one thing I hate on the hardware side of our tablet is at night the blacks are terrible! I'm just used to my S3 blacks tbh. Anyhoo not that it matters I aint ganna buy a Samsung product anytime soon.
A Note S (actually probably three - 8.4, 10.1, and 12.2) with AMOLED should be next, but I doubt anything will happen before Samsung gets enough 20nm production going for its next-gen Exynos (which appears to be what's hiding inside the non-Qualcomm Note 4).
Also, they may be waiting for Apple's next-gen iPad and/or Android L.
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I agree. Even without releasing new tablet, samsung (seems) already abandon the note 2014 users in Europe....
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As soon as the 2014 came out Samsung practically forgot about the OG note 10.1.
Despite lackluster specs it had such potential. Its multitasking capabilities were superior, nav bar was welcomed. Instead a barely supported tablet with oodles of software bugs is it's legacy.
I swore I would never buy Samsung but I really did miss the spen. Only phone/tablet I ever ran stock(on purpose)
@md1008 ... yeah its a joke, I got KitKat few days ago and installed it yesterday. It just feels kinda pointless as Android L is around the corner.
I feel the same with Samsung - Not again.
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As soon as the 2014 came out Samsung practically forgot about the OG note 10.1.
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I wouldn't call bringing the N10.1-12 up to 4.4 "forgetting" it. I had a N10.1-12 before I bought the N10.1-14 when it first came out which means I used it on both 4.3 and 4.4. I'd take either over the N10.1-12. People seem to wax poetic over the N10.1-12 but, at least to me, the N10.1-14 is better in every way. A 147 PPI display is downright painful to use these days. Samsung's policy on backwardly updating their own s/w on older devices when newer versions are released on newer devices (EG: N2 getting N3 features, N10.1-12 getting N10.1-14 features) is simple . They don't. So if that's a big deal to people they either need to live with it or not buy Samsung's products. I doubt it'll change going forward.
Geordie Affy said:
@md1008 ... yeah its a joke, I got KitKat few days ago and installed it yesterday. It just feels kinda pointless as Android L is around the corner.
I feel the same with Samsung - Not again.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I wouldn't call bringing the N10.1-12 up to 4.4 "forgetting" it. I had a N10.1-12 before I bought the N10.1-14 when it first came out which means I used it on both 4.3 and 4.4. I'd take either over the N10.1-12. People seem to wax poetic over the N10.1-12 but, at least to me, the N10.1-14 is better in every way. A 147 PPI display is downright painful to use these days. Samsung's policy on backwardly updating their own s/w on older devices when newer versions are released on newer devices (EG: N2 getting N3 features, N10.1-12 getting N10.1-14 features) is simple . They don't. So if that's a big deal to people they either need to live with it or not buy Samsung's products. I doubt it'll change going forward.
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The update didn't come for months and I believe the US model did not receive update at least it didn't before I sold it a month or two ago, it was stuck on 4.1.2.
Spec wise the 2014 is far better(as it should be) I did prefer the multi window setup better than post jellybutton and the nav bar is I believe better than the stupid home button. Tablet UI was nice but tablet is no longer supported since kit Kat.
Frankly I thought the note 10.1(2012) could have been great but fell short in so many ways
In the UK the prices of the Note 10.1 2014 Edition have been slashed like crazy. Last week it was selling for £450 and now all major retailers selling for £330! ... and one of the major retailers who is even listed on Samsungs website (John Lewis) no longer even list the Note 10.1 2014 (they had slashed prices too before they took it offline).
Surely this must be signs of a new Note 10.1 in the works. Have prices dropped in US or anywhere else?
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The entry level Samsung tablets had/have sort of an eternal life, with terribly outdated hardware. So why should the Note not last for another year? Currently you could only employ a newer Snapdragon, slighly faster and w/64bit. An OLED i dont consider innovative, just different, with a taste of worse.
None of the 64-bit Snapdragons to date are faster - all are A53 only. I assume we'll get 64-bit Exynos+AMOLED Note refreshes as soon as Samsung's yields on 20nm improve. (The 5433 in the non-Qualcomme Note 4 is A57/A53 at 20nm disguised as a 32 bit processor.)
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None of the 64-bit Snapdragons to date are faster - all are A53 only. I assume we'll get 64-bit Exynos+AMOLED Note refreshes as soon as Samsung's yields on 20nm improve. (The 5433 in the non-Qualcomme Note 4 is A57/A53 at 20nm disguised as a 32 bit processor.)
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Yeah I reckon it will be AMOLED, Metal frame, Note 4 software and S-pen updates.
And obviously faster processor whatever it is.
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I must be jaded, I wouldn't consider another Samsung tablet or phone at this point.
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edthesped said:
I must be jaded, I wouldn't consider another Samsung tablet or phone at this point.
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I agree.
Plus this tablet should last another 2 years ... or I'm going to make it last haha.
By then we will hopefully have greater choice of none Samsung devices.