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[Q] Nexus 10 or Galaxy Note 10.1

Hello everyone.
I'm kind of a newbie here.
I joined a long time ago when I had and Advent Vega tab however I have never posted before.
I have the cash in my pocket for a 10" tablet and was looking at either the Galaxy Note 10.1 or the Asus Transformer Infinity.
I managed to finally make my mind up and go for the Note 10.1 and then Google decided to throw a spanner in the works with the Nexus 10!
So, which do I go for??

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Nexus 10
the Nexus ten is better in all aspects. the screen is by far better. it has an higher resolution and pixel density than the ipad 3

MarcusSi15: except UI, multi tasking, storage, and stylus support.
nexus runs a phone/phablet UI while the note has a proper tablet UI.
the note has the ability to have certain apps running in the foreground at the same time.
the note also has support for sdxc cards.
and while the nexus can only work with a capacitive stylus, the note comes with a Wacom stylus which is way more accurate.

nexus 10 by far with its screen depth amazing!!!

Easy, buy the nexus. The note 10.1 has a horrible screen on it. My og galaxy tab 10.1 has a better looking screen than the note tablet.
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do youself a favor DONT buy the note 10.1. Im using it now but will return it to buy the nexus 10. screen is bad comparing to nexus 10. software lags...

The Note 10.1 is a great tablet, the screen resolution isnt the highest, but it still looks good. If you in to drawing or writing the Note is the choice, its also quad so gaming is amazing as well, its also does multitasking like a champ.
The Nexus is a good looking tablet too, it depends what you find most appealing, A higher res screen with up to date software, or a specialized tablet that also handles any other task better than most tabs out.
The S-pen is great I want a N10 but dont know if i can give up the S-pen.
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chugglet said:
Hello everyone.
I'm kind of a newbie here.
I joined a long time ago when I had and Advent Vega tab however I have never posted before.
I have the cash in my pocket for a 10" tablet and was looking at either the Galaxy Note 10.1 or the Asus Transformer Infinity.
I managed to finally make my mind up and go for the Note 10.1 and then Google decided to throw a spanner in the works with the Nexus 10!
So, which do I go for??
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galaxy all the way :good:

Thanks for the replies everyone and as I expected, the opinion is divided.
I see it like this:
The obvious Pro points for the Nexus 10 are the amazing screen, the updated software (including the lack of Touchwiz), Google's obvious work on it and the price.
However the big negative for me is no SD Card support.
The Pros for the Note are the S-Pen, the Quad Core Processor, expandable memory & multi-tasking, I'm also assuming that there will be a software update at some point too.
The negatives are the screen (a lot lower resolution but still ok) & touchwiz (however that can be changed with a different ROM).
Both are built by Samsung and from what I have seen, in grey they don't look that much different!
I currently have an S3 and love it so I think I way be swaying towards the Note!!

Gnote vs nexus 10= n10
To be truthful its like comparing older vs newer
1. Processor: gnote's quad core is nowhere as fast as n10's a15 is next generation arm soc with Mali t604
2. UI: touchwiz is an abomination of common sense, its bloated, ugly, inefficient compared to stock Ui
3. Updates: Samsung is the worst OEM when it comes to update, I am running jb on my gtab 10.1 yet Samsung thinks it does not deserve update, ludicrous! But nexus devices are always first on update
4. Community support: nexus devices are more favored by devs since sources are available and thus more custom ROM and overall hacking
5. Display: since it beats apple, no point talking about it
6. Ram: gnote=1gb, n10= 2gb
7. Unless u want stylus ( which is barely useful), sdcard ( I think 32gb is reasonably priced and should be enough for majority) I think nexus 10 takes the win in every comparison possible
U might enjoy your s3, but why would you get less for you money when there's option for more?
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chugglet said:
Thanks for the replies everyone and as I expected, the opinion is divided.
I see it like this:
The obvious Pro points for the Nexus 10 are the amazing screen, the updated software (including the lack of Touchwiz), Google's obvious work on it and the price.
However the big negative for me is no SD Card support.
The Pros for the Note are the S-Pen, the Quad Core Processor, expandable memory & multi-tasking, I'm also assuming that there will be a software update at some point too.
The negatives are the screen (a lot lower resolution but still ok) & touchwiz (however that can be changed with a different ROM).
Both are built by Samsung and from what I have seen, in grey they don't look that much different!
I currently have an S3 and love it so I think I way be swaying towards the Note!!
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nah the dual core processor in the Nexus 10 outperforms that quad core processor in the Note 10.1. it's even better than the snapdragon S4 pro in the nexus 4... (wonder why a dual core is more powerful? google it...)
also price is a big factor here. the note 10.1 is 100$ more.. lol The real pros of the Note is the SD slot and the pen.the nexus 10 is better in every other aspect.
But hey, it's your money, your call.

I wanted to give my feedback on the matter. I have had the Transformer prime and infinity, have had the Nexus 7 and currently have a SGS 7.7.
The reason I no longer have Asus's Tegra 3 line is that all of them have had slow internal storage which caused crashing problems. I considered the Note 10.1 before deciding to get the Galaxy Tab 7.7. The main reason I didn't get the note was that I felt it was overpriced (given I didn't care for wacom support). With the Nexus 10's release, I believe that even more strongly. At $400 for a 16gb Note 10.1, its a feasable option because expandable memory matters.
Nexus 10 vs Note
Pros:
Processor: The Nexus 10 has Samsung's next generation processor which is faster than the Note 10.1's.
Screen: It has a higher resolution, higher technology screen.
Nexus program: It will stay updated to the newest software for longer (and with effectively no wait time). It will have a larger development community.
Cons:
Nexus program: It lacks a micro sd card reader so memory is limited to 16/32gb.
Non-Note: It lacks wacom stylus support. Samsung's Note software streamlines multitasking split screen.

Thanks for the reply wtgserpant.
Some interesting points.
1. When you say the CPU is nowhere near as fast, will it really be that noticeable bearing in mind one is dual core and the other is quad?
2. RAM on the note is 2gb isn't it?
3. Do the current Note 10.1 ROM's remove Touchwiz (or at least the useless crap out of it)?
4. I agree with the updates comment, my S3 is unbranded and I received JB after most of the Service Providers!
5. The Note is currently £399 in the UK with £50 cashback from Samsung (Making it £349). Not a bad price really?
Oh and completely off of the subject, I have just seen your location as New York. Stay Safe mate.

If you write a lot go with Note 10.1 (handwrite on lectures, at work, taking notes, scribbling, drawing etc.) - nothing can match the Wacom stylus, nothing. If not - Nexus 10.
@chuglet:
Ad. 1. They should be similar in practise, though Nexus 10 will probably be better optimised being Jelly Bean and Nexus. Nexus 10 has much more powerful GPU but it is needed for so many pixels.
AD. 2. Yes, 2GB. Keep in mind Nexus 10 will probably have more memory for GPU so it will be more like 1.5GB in reality - but it should be more than enough.
Ad. 3. Touchwiz is quite nice on Note 10.1. I wouldn't want it removed. But yes, there are ROMs without it.

Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!
Decisions decisions.
I came to work thus morning with the cash in my pocket to get the note but now I'm not sure!
I don't do a lot of writing or drawing but I like the option of having it there if I want to.
I also like all of the obvious plus points of the nexus; updates, processor, price!!
Should I wait until it is actually released and then really come the two?
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galaxy Note 10.1
:good: galaxy Note 10.1

Absolutely Nexus Ten

I have decided to go for the nexus!
I've registered my interest on the play store so hopefully I will be able to pr-order soon!
Thanks for all of the advice!
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MarcusSi15 said:
the Nexus ten is better in all aspects. the screen is by far better. it has an higher resolution and pixel density than the ipad 3
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I Agree!

[Q] Multi window on Nexus 10? N10 or SGN 10.1?

Do you think this feature may come to nexus 10 in the future? I think it's truly helpful, and I'm really tempted to go for the Samsung Note 10.1 instead of waiting for the Nexus 10 because of all it's features like Multi windows (multitasking on the screen), Air view (quick previews) & of course the wonder that seems to be the S Pen, SD card storage, Mini-SIM support (can be a phone/tablet basically), are those amazing features worth trading for 1.7 a-15 processor and the display? cause those 2 things are the only that I can think of that would really beat the SGN 10.1 at.

daLareid said:
Do you think this feature may come to nexus 10 in the future? I think it's truly helpful, and I'm really tempted to go for the Samsung Note 10.1 instead of waiting for the Nexus 10 because of all it's features like Multi windows (multitasking on the screen), Air view (quick previews) & of course the wonder that seems to be the S Pen, SD card storage, Mini-SIM support (can be a phone/tablet basically), are those amazing features worth trading for 1.7 a-15 processor and the display? cause those 2 things are the only that I can think of that would really beat the SGN 10.1 at.
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I've used both devices, and would say they both have there pros and cons. If you plan on using your tablet for work I would definetly go for the SGN 10.1. Samsungs UI adds a lot of useful features, most of which probably will not be implemented on the Nexus 10 including multi-window support. The Nexus 10 has a better display, faster cpu, and will receive andriod updates before other non-google branded devices. Choosing between the two depends on what you plan on doing with your device.

If the SGN 10.1 had the same screen resolution as the N10 then I would have bought it instead of the N10 even if it meant waiting longer for Android updates.
As the Android plateform matures then the updates become less significant and as the SGN 10.1 will receive JB then that version of Android is good enough.
However, Apple got it right when it introduced the Retina display for the screen is what you use the most and the resolution needs to be good. That is why I have waited till now to buy an Android tablet that had a display with a resolution as good as the iPad.
If Samsung improves the resolution of the SGN 2, SGN 10.1 and produces a SGN 7.7 to match the iPad then I would switch back to Samsung because I like the S-Pen which can provide mouse pointing accuracy for selecting screen items.

Thanks for the suggestions, and although I'm probably not gonna use the productivity features that are in the Note 10.1 I guess I should go for the Nexus 10.

Gaugerer said:
If the SGN 10.1 had the same screen resolution as the N10 then I would have bought it instead of the N10 even if it meant waiting longer for Android updates.
As the Android plateform matures then the updates become less significant and as the SGN 10.1 will receive JB then that version of Android is good enough.
However, Apple got it right when it introduced the Retina display for the screen is what you use the most and the resolution needs to be good. That is why I have waited till now to buy an Android tablet that had a display with a resolution as good as the iPad.
If Samsung improves the resolution of the SGN 2, SGN 10.1 and produces a SGN 7.7 to match the iPad then I would switch back to Samsung because I like the S-Pen which can provide mouse pointing accuracy for selecting screen items.
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Why don't we take Samsung galaxy note 10.1 software once it hits 4.2 and port it to nexus 10 only we dont have that cool s-pen ..........
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QuBe2 said:
Why don't we take Samsung galaxy note 10.1 software once it hits 4.2 and port it to nexus 10 only we dont have that cool s-pen ..........
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Because Note 10's screen is made to work with S Pen the way it does, I read something about it on some other post, about there's a layer in the screen that allows this functionality.

The Note 10.1 uses an inductive pen, which requires a unique panel. There are capacitive stylus's that can be used on the Nexus 10, but they will not have the precision of the Note 10.1's inductive stylus.

daLareid said:
Because Note 10's screen is made to work with S Pen the way it does, I read something about it on some other post, about there's a layer in the screen that allows this functionality.
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I know we cant use the s-pen but you can use a capacitive stylus or bamboo pen via otg ..........and if we want multiwindow we can use their rom ported over to nex10 i will do it once samsung releases 4.2 or 4.2.1 for note 10
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QuBe2 said:
I know we cant use the s-pen but you can use a capacitive stylus or bamboo pen via otg ..........and if we want multiwindow we can use their rom ported over to nex10 i will do it once samsung releases 4.2 or 4.2.1 for note 10
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Well if you do manage to port it to N10 fully functioning, that would be great.

semlethe3rd said:
I've used both devices, and would say they both have there pros and cons. If you plan on using your tablet for work I would definetly go for the SGN 10.1. Samsungs UI adds a lot of useful features, most of which probably will not be implemented on the Nexus 10 including multi-window support. The Nexus 10 has a better display, faster cpu, and will receive andriod updates before other non-google branded devices. Choosing between the two depends on what you plan on doing with your device.
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Actually note 10.1 performs faster than the nexus 10 in every aspect, nexus 10 has faster gpu which performs as middle range gpu with this enormous resolution , and in terms of cpu note 10.1 performs faster and is actually more fluid than nexus 10 when multitasking, 2 cortex a15 cores are nearly equal if not less in power than the quad core a9 at same clock speed and with this screen resolution the net performance will be worse than note 10.1 ,

hoss_n2 said:
Actually note 10.1 performs faster than the nexus 10 in every aspect, nexus 10 has faster gpu which performs as middle range gpu with this enormous resolution , and in terms of cpu note 10.1 performs faster and is actually more fluid than nexus 10 when multitasking, 2 cortex a15 cores are nearly equal if not less in power than the quad core a9 at same clock speed and with this screen resolution the net performance will be worse than note 10.1 ,
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Well I've seen a few VS review videos, that do show a slightly advantage on some features for the N 10.1 over the N10 but overall, N10 always wins it.

daLareid said:
Well I've seen a few VS review videos, that do show a slightly advantage on some features for the N 10.1 over the N10 but overall, N10 always wins it.
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Then n10 wins at what rather than screen resolution? The note 10.1 is a complete device in terms of speed, functionality and apps tell me one thing the n10 can do it better and faster than the note 10.1 here's what note got over nexus 10
- Multiview (true side by side multitasking)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support and 7.1 channel hd sound support
- IR port
- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered
- Browser h/w acceleration
-smart stay and smart rotate
-miracast features
-no cpu throttle and no fps drop in games
-advances anti theft and tracking system
-Bluetooth 4.0 with hd sound transfer
-and allot more
Nexus 10 is comparable to an ipad or some of ****ty asus tablets but the note 10.1 is in a completely new level

hoss_n2 said:
Then n10 wins at what rather than screen resolution? The note 10.1 is a complete device in terms of speed, functionality and apps tell me one thing the n10 can do it better and faster than the note 10.1 here's what note got over nexus 10
- Multiview (true side by side multitasking)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support and 7.1 channel hd sound support
- IR port
- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered
- Browser h/w acceleration
-smart stay and smart rotate
-miracast features
-no cpu throttle and no fps drop in games
-advances anti theft and tracking system
-Bluetooth 4.0 with hd sound transfer
-and allot more
Nexus 10 is comparable to an ipad or some of ****ty asus tablets but the note 10.1 is in a completely new level
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A completely new level that's under some of the ****ty Asus tablets?

hoss_n2 said:
Then n10 wins at what rather than screen resolution? The note 10.1 is a complete device in terms of speed, functionality and apps tell me one thing the n10 can do it better and faster than the note 10.1 here's what note got over nexus 10
- Multiview (true side by side multitasking)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support and 7.1 channel hd sound support
- IR port
- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered
- Browser h/w acceleration
-smart stay and smart rotate
-miracast features
-no cpu throttle and no fps drop in games
-advances anti theft and tracking system
-Bluetooth 4.0 with hd sound transfer
-and allot more
Nexus 10 is comparable to an ipad or some of ****ty asus tablets but the note 10.1 is in a completely new level
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I don't know man, I've played with a note10, and it definitely had some performance issues compared to this tablet. A lot of it I'm sure is due to their tablet form of touch wiz, which I don't think is nearly as optimized as the phone equivalent.
And I'm sorry, but multi tasking shines on this tablet compared to my time with the note. Sure it's got a quad core, but the A9 architecture is a dinosaur at this point, and the memory bandwidth just doesn't stack up, and that's really the difference.
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hoss_n2 said:
Then n10 wins at what rather than screen resolution? The note 10.1 is a complete device in terms of speed, functionality and apps tell me one thing the n10 can do it better and faster than the note 10.1 here's what note got over nexus 10
- Multiview (true side by side multitasking)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support and 7.1 channel hd sound support
- IR port
- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered
- Browser h/w acceleration
-smart stay and smart rotate
-miracast features
-no cpu throttle and no fps drop in games
-advances anti theft and tracking system
-Bluetooth 4.0 with hd sound transfer
-and allot more
Nexus 10 is comparable to an ipad or some of ****ty asus tablets but the note 10.1 is in a completely new level
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It depends if you want a pretty and sexy and pure hoe who doesn't give you very good services but is a pleasure to admire or a fat and ugly chick with thick makeup that makes her look like cow but makes you hit explosion much faster when you close your eyes. Personal preference really.

squshy 7 said:
I don't know man, I've played with a note10, and it definitely had some performance issues compared to this tablet. A lot of it I'm sure is due to their tablet form of touch wiz, which I don't think is nearly as optimized as the phone equivalent.
And I'm sorry, but multi tasking shines on this tablet compared to my time with the note. Sure it's got a quad core, but the A9 architecture is a dinosaur at this point, and the memory bandwidth just doesn't stack up, and that's really the difference.
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You should have played with an old one with old firmware or with a one who is displayed in the market and thousands of people play with it every day, for sure you haven't tried jellybean on the note that is why you think that the nexus 10.1 multitasking is better, and as i see the number of performance problems in your forum is allot more than on the note 10.1 forum, and finally talking about the a9 processors the note 10.1 is built on same Exynos 5250 32*nm HKMG techonolgy and have overclocked gpu than the normal mail 400 gpu (533vs 220), and by trying benchmarks for i/O and memory bandwidth the performed similar to each other but in cpu the note 10.1 performed significantly higher, for sure nexus 10 is a good device but not comparable to note 10.1 in performance, functionality and speed and none of the persons who quoted my post have told me any evidence or a resonable reason that the n10 is better than the note

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Actually note 10.1 performs faster than the nexus 10 in every aspect, nexus 10 has faster gpu which performs as middle range gpu with this enormous resolution , and in terms of cpu note 10.1 performs faster and is actually more fluid than nexus 10 when multitasking, 2 cortex a15 cores are nearly equal if not less in power than the quad core a9 at same clock speed and with this screen resolution the net performance will be worse than note 10.1 ,
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dude youre wrong.. i agree on the functionality aspect. (Note 10 is better there!) BUT when it comes to sheer performance and fluidity there is NO match for the nexus 10 in the android sphere. only the ipad is more fluid on the UI.

Sheer CPU performance is probably pretty close between the two, however you aren't considering the fact that 99% of the apps out today aren't utilising 4 threads. So in 1 or 2 thread operations (which pretty much all apps are) the 2 A15 cores devastate the 2 A9 cores. Benchmarks measuring CPU performance distort results as well; if you take a look at not specifically CPU benchmarks, such as javascript based ones you can see the massive difference. Also the 32nm manufacturing process has nothing to do with the architecture and CPU power so it is completely meaningless in this comparison.
In terms of GPU performance I'm pretty sure the Note is ahead because of the 4x load on the T604, and because the 400 is a great GPU as well. Of course this isn't very noticable as I can't name more than a couple of games that don't play perfectly on the N10 and for general UI and app acceleration the power of the T604 is plenty enough.
In terms of memory bandwidth, the N10 is comparable to the iPad 3 (around 13GB/s) which is multiple times larger than any other Android device's on the market today and that pretty much eliminates the memory as a bottleneck (which it usually is).

Like I said according to many review videos and, many written reviews N10 always perform better than N 10.1 overall, of course N10.1 has the amazing S-Pen feature which makes it a better device for productivity, and the multi window task also.

daLareid said:
Like I said according to many review videos and, many written reviews N10 always perform better than N 10.1 overall, of course N10.1 has the amazing S-Pen feature which makes it a better device for productivity, and the multi window task also.
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I've seen many reviews on youtube that were actually enabling powersaving mode while reviewing (this reduces performance by about 50 %) my advice to you is to try both devices yourself before you buy anything, anyway good luck with your choice, and if you already bought the nexus 10 just forget whatever i said and have fun with it, it is still a very good device

Galaxy note 8.0

Officially announced on their Facebook page, with pix...
Looks like a giant Note II
And here on their home page.
What you guys think? I want one!

Spec wise it's almost identical, so i don't think i would get one. Note 10.1 is enough for me
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I WILL have one.. Oh yes, I will...

It's got the home button from the phone though. That was one of the things that people hated about the Note 2 compared to the Note 1: having to push a mechanical button instead of a capacitive home button meant having to change to a finger push instead of a stylus poke.

The design, at least to me, is kind of stupid. Android on a tablet doesn't do well in portrait and widgets end up squished to fit. Using the Note 8 in landscape is going to be challenging because of the button placement and types of buttons Samsung decided to use. And having what appears to be a single front-facing speaker is a step back from the Note 10.1. It's just my opinion but having less than a 10" tablet kind of defeats the purpose especially with S Note and multiview. I'm sure it'll sell well though.
I just hope we get some of the new features like Awesome Note (Samsung has a one year Android exclusive) and the addition of TV Discovery to Peal to pull in Netflix and Hulu content.

I waited for Note 8.0 thinking it would be just like Note 10.1 but smaller. But it is more like a bigger version of Note 2 but with poorer camera. Meh.
Samsung - this is an enlarged phone, not a proper tablet.

I don't have a Note 10.1, since I really don't want to drop 400-500 on a tablet anytime soon as I did with the Thinkpad Tablet, and that was a huge mistake. As far as I've seen, this tablet is a lot better, but I think the price point of this 8.0 tablet might be appealing. We'll see, I guess.
Anyone think a second version of the 10.1 tablet is due as well, in the near future at least?

im still thinking if this will be a good backup phone from the Note 10.1 or i might settle for the Nexus 4. but ever since the rumors about the Note 8 came out, i am so into it.
we will see when it is out in stores.
=)

BarryH_GEG said:
Using the Note 8 in landscape is going to be challenging because of the button placement and types of buttons Samsung decided to use. And having what appears to be a single front-facing speaker is a step back from the Note 10.1.
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Its a giant note2 who wanna be a note 10.1
It have phone capabilities thats why the front facing speaker and the use of the buttons
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Would love to know that the reading mode would do to the screen

Well the Note 8.0 solves THE big knock on the Note 10.1 - lousy PPI. Because of the smaller form factor the PPI goes up by almost 50 points. That's enough to make a real difference. Also thumb typing in portrait will be much more comfortable. It will also have a large enough screen to handwrite in portrait (unlike the Note 2).
One side benefit of this is that the Note 10.1 will get cheaper. BestBuy has it for $449 today. First time I've seen it on sale there.
Last point. Note 10.1 will now get better software.
I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular and honestly the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.

MWC is on so keep your favorite tech sites bookmarked and check them frequently for all the mobile news out of Spain this week. 7-inch tablets will be big this year. Today, Engadget is reporting on 3 new 7-inchers being shown at MWC--1 by HP that will be priced at $169 USD (not breathtaking specs on it) and 2 by Lenovo. It will be interesting to see if a 3G international version of the note 8 with dialing capabilities will be announced at the official unveiling at MWC. As many have noted, the speaker placement looks similar to the note 2, leading to speculation that some models might have phone capabilities.

I don't see a point why a Note 10.1 user should consider buying this tablet. Of course, dpi is lousy and i won't deny it, it just sucks. But that's one point - the Note 10.1 is a full-fledged android tablet. Landscape oriented, great software, enough power to maintain the upcoming years and some great features like stereo frontfacing speakers.
The Note 8.0 is a LOT more specified and in my opinion it wants to appeal a bit more professional users than most who bought the Note 10.1. I bought it for studying, it'll do a great job then. But i also wanted a multimedia tablet i can use at home, i think the Note 8.0 will have difficulties in that. It's too much different from standard android tablets.
I hoped for the Note 10.1 to get cheaper before i bought it (i waited for almost 2 months) but finally couldn't resist it anymore. I wouldn't buy the Note 8.0 anyway.

MWC is on so keep your favorite tech sites bookmarked and check them frequently for all the mobile news out of Spain this week. 7-inch tablets will be big this year. Today, Engadget is reporting on 3 new 7-inchers being shown at MWC--1 by HP that will be priced at $169 USD (not breathtaking specs on it) and 2 by Lenovo. It will be interesting to see if a 3G international version of the note 8 with dialing capabilities will be announced at the official unveiling at MWC. As many have noted, the speaker placement looks similar to the note 2, leading to speculation that some models might have phone capabilities.
Alright I didn't read Engadet yesterday afternoon and noe see that they've got a preview if the note 8 up and the internaltional 3G version will be able to make phone calls. The article contains a video, too. http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/23/samsung-galaxy-note-8-preview/

I hate that they put the speakers on the bottom?

dj_m said:
It have phone capabilities thats why the front facing speaker and the use of the buttons
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The Wi-Fi version won't and the U.S. and Canada won't be offered a 3G version. And probably in the countries that offer both more than half sold will be Wi-Fi only because people don’t want to have to buy 3G data. The N8000's a phone too but still survives without looking like a giant Note II including hard and soft buttons that are difficult to use in landscape and a single speaker. Do you honestly see anyone with a Note 8 holding it to their ear for phone calls?
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mitchellvii said:
I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular and honestly the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.
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It's just the classic comparison of a 7/8" tablet vs. a 10" tablet. It's no different than comparing the N7 and N10; they are meant for two different market segments. The Note 8's going after the iPad Mini, not the Note 10.1. I agree about the better PPI between the Note 8 and 10 but because of the extra screen real estate you'd typically hold the Note 10 further away minimizing the impact. 10" high-end Android tablets have never sold particularly well because their price points are too close to the iPad and with that the masses tend to go for the original. If I was shopping for a tablet today I'd still buy the Note 10.1 in spite of its PPI because of its features. I like that it's designed to be used in landscape and the extra display space makes productivity stuff tons easier than working with a 7/8" tablet. But, to your point, based on size, price, and volume in the 7/8" space the Note 8 will easily outsell the Note 10.1. And I don't think Samsung cares one way or the other. The only thing I'll give my Note 10.1 up for is a Note the same size or larger with a FHD display. Purely my personal opinion of course.

Its pretty much the same tablet. Ill wait another year or atleast until tech advances enough to justify dropping another 500+ for a tablet. And when that happens, it will probably be a nexus :laugh:

I also find the resolution on the Samsung devices pretty poor :crying: I wish Samsung would bump them up!

formeriphoneuser said:
I also find the resolution on the Samsung devices pretty poor :crying: I wish Samsung would bump them up!
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higher dpi sounds great, just remember it means more work for the battery and cpu, I believe the wacom digitizer and resolution need to match also. personally I cannot sacrifice screen real estate, annotating blue prints requires a large screen for me. would love something in the 11.6 range. but I do believe they have different audiences, (I never believe in a one size fits all approach) probably get the little lady one, call it the " lady note"

I only want one cuz it's sexy. That and I'm a sucker for ads lol.
Realistically this could never replace my Note 10.1.

Thoughts from a former Nexus 7 fanboy

So I've traded in my beloved Nexus 7 for a Galaxy Note 8. Here's why:
A lot of the decision was based around the extremely poor execution on the Nexus brand. The Galaxy Nexus launch was smooth, but Verizon only. I preordered the Nexus 7 the moment it became possible to do so, only to have my order take weeks to process and with no way to cancel it after I was able to walk into a Sam's Club and pick up one of the dozen or so they had in stock (I actually had to cancel the card I used to preorder it to prevent Google from billing me). Most recently, the case study in botched launches we call the Nexus 4 was simply unacceptable from a company as big and as smart as Google. Toss in the scant attention they give to accessories (Nexus 7 desktop dock, anyone?) and my faith in Google as a hardware partner has simply been abolished. There was no way in hell I was going to try the next Nexus 7 and hope they've improved things.
That aside, the Nexus 7 was an awesome tablet, but the form factor was a real turn off for me. The thing just felt so bulky in my hand and pocket. That didn't keep me from using the crap out of it, but I really wanted to find an iPad Mini sized device with Android on it. Superficial, I know, but I can't say it wasn't a factor when I read how thin the Note 8 was going to be. Even if the next Nexus 7 is just as thin, the killer feature for me is the S Pen. Android tablets and a third party stylus are just north of complete disappointment. Every tablet I've owned since the Motorola Xoom really sucked in this department. Since my day job now involves 3x as many meetings as it did when I got the N7, the ability to take quick notes and sketch out something rough was a huge selling point. Having used it for a week now, that alone has completely justified the extra cost over an N7 for me.
I do hate a few things, however. The capacitive buttons are annoying as hell in landscape. More than once already, I've hit the back button while playing a game or reading something. How this made it past any sort of QA testing is beyond me. While we're on the subject of "wtf", who's bright idea was it to place the speakers on the part of the device you cover up in landscape? It's very clear that they intended this device to be used in one position and that's extremely unfortunate.
In the end, I'm extremely happy with it. My experience so far has been vastly positive and it's been the most practical Android tablet I've owned to date. Granted, most of that feeling is focused on how much I like the S Pen. Without that, I never would have given this tablet the time of day, even with the better form factor.

great review.. i feel largely the same way with the biggest negative being the capacitive buttons in landscape.. oversight in my opinion that maybe they can develop a disable in landscape option.
I think also underrated is 'reading mode' and i really appreciate samsungs letting us add any app to the list.. I find it much easier and much less strain on the eyes when reading pdfs that way

I kept my nexus 7, so now i have the best of both worlds =) But on another note, note 8 is extremely smooth, its awesome.

About the capacitive buttons... it is possible to active on screen buttons if you're desperate lol... It would take effort though.

great information you have to post, this one is quit materialistic and also have a deep information about Nexus 7

I have to agree about the bulky casing of the Nexus 7, Galaxy 8.0 is a good alternative for sure. Thanks for posting your thoughts.

I really really really want to have a Note 8 but it's sooooo big. hehehe. I hope my hands are big enough to hold it easily

panda00 said:
About the capacitive buttons... it is possible to active on screen buttons if you're desperate lol... It would take effort though.
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With root, button savior is always an option on any device for on screen buttons
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I did the same thing. I own a Note 2 and had a Nexus 7. I tried out a Note 10.1 and a Nexus 10 for a week each and returned them both. After seeing what the Note 8.0 was about to bring to the table, I sold my Nexus 7 on the launch day of the Note 8.0 and went with that. I love this thing. For me the size and weight played a huge role as well, not to mention the fact that for me I am not very productive with a tablet unless I have a method of data entry other than touch, like the S Pen or a physical keyboard. After being so happy with my Note 2, the 8.0 ended up being the perfect choice.
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BlobLobba said:
I have to agree about the bulky casing of the Nexus 7, Galaxy 8.0 is a good alternative for sure. Thanks for posting your thoughts.
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Galaxy 8.0 is a good alternative for sure.+1
But I have heard the next generation of Nexus 7 will come on Google I/O 2013, and it seems own the more powerful specs than the present one, and I do want to compare the new one with Galaxy Note 8.0.

Dannyada1988 said:
Galaxy 8.0 is a good alternative for sure.+1
But I have heard the next generation of Nexus 7 will come on Google I/O 2013, and it seems own the more powerful specs than the present one, and I do want to compare the new one with Galaxy Note 8.0.
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True but unless it has an active digitizer (S-Pen) it doesn't compare. I bought the Note 8.0 for one reason, the S-Pen. I had the Samsung series 7 slate with an active digitizer and loved it, wished for something smaller that I could use. I then bought the Surface Pro and the stylus comes in handy, I use it all the time. I take my Surface to meetings and take notes with it. Now with the Note 8.0 I can go completely digital with my note taking. I will be able to through it in my cargo pocket and take it with me everywhere to take notes and stuff.
I understand everyone has different uses but the Note 8.0 is in a different class with the S-Pen. The iPad mini and Nexus 7, both nice devices owned a Nexus 7, don't compare.

theraker007 said:
great review.. i feel largely the same way with the biggest negative being the capacitive buttons in landscape.. oversight in my opinion that maybe they can develop a disable in landscape option.
I think also underrated is 'reading mode' and i really appreciate samsungs letting us add any app to the list.. I find it much easier and much less strain on the eyes when reading pdfs that way
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Wow learned something new. Thanks!
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sactownbwoy said:
True but unless it has an active digitizer (S-Pen) it doesn't compare. I bought the Note 8.0 for one reason, the S-Pen. I had the Samsung series 7 slate with an active digitizer and loved it, wished for something smaller that I could use. I then bought the Surface Pro and the stylus comes in handy, I use it all the time. I take my Surface to meetings and take notes with it. Now with the Note 8.0 I can go completely digital with my note taking. I will be able to through it in my cargo pocket and take it with me everywhere to take notes and stuff.
I understand everyone has different uses but the Note 8.0 is in a different class with the S-Pen. The iPad mini and Nexus 7, both nice devices owned a Nexus 7, don't compare.
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Me too. I love the Spen, but I hate Mali-400MP inside it (Having Note 2). Have no idea why Samsung doesn't put Snapdragon S600 (or at least S4 Pro) into it.
8.0 inch is the perfect side for a tablet, so I'm waiting for its successor.

I traded up from the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1'' and I DONT regret it. The 8.0'' screen is perfect, still kinda fits in your pocket, the extra inch over the 7'' tabs is duly noted and the -2.1 inches from my former tablet isnt even missed. I, so far, have no complaints about my Note!

hung2900 said:
Me too. I love the Spen, but I hate Mali-400MP inside it (Having Note 2).
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I've read a lot of people complain about it, but no one is really saying why. My experience so far is that the OS runs as snappy as any device I've ever used, applications load up quickly, and so far, every game I've tossed on it plays just fine. Could it be faster, less power hungry, or newer? Sure, but I'm not seeing a reason why I should care, either.
I'd love to hear some thoughts on why people have such a problem with the processor.

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I've read a lot of people complain about it, but no one is really saying why. My experience so far is that the OS runs as snappy as any device I've ever used, applications load up quickly, and so far, every game I've tossed on it plays just fine. Could it be faster, less power hungry, or newer? Sure, but I'm not seeing a reason why I should care, either.
I'd love to hear some thoughts on why people have such a problem with the processor.
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It boils down to some dumb "It's great, but we want <insert the new tech buzzword" fanboyism. By all means the SoC is great, is tried and tested, and more than powerful enough for anything on the platform or on the horizon.
Basically, a bunch of biased blogs used it as a knock against the Note 8, and because its not an octa-core Exynos 6 with 8GB of RAM and a GeForce 790GT it's suddenly bad. Even though they had literally just got done gushing over the same SoC in the Note 2 and others.

Juvenall said:
I've read a lot of people complain about it, but no one is really saying why. My experience so far is that the OS runs as snappy as any device I've ever used, applications load up quickly, and so far, every game I've tossed on it plays just fine. Could it be faster, less power hungry, or newer? Sure, but I'm not seeing a reason why I should care, either.
I'd love to hear some thoughts on why people have such a problem with the processor.
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Reason? Cannot play fruit ninja perfectly smoothly. ShadowGun DZ seems even laggier than my tf101.
I didn't say anything abt the processor, coz even 1ghz quad core (power saving mode? Is totally enough. But the GPU...

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Reason? Cannot play fruit ninja perfectly smoothly. ShadowGun DZ seems even laggier than my tf101.
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I don't play these games, but I am pretty sure hyperbole of comparing any function of the N8 to the TF101 is not going to help your argument. I went and downloaded Shadowgun for kicks, and it plays like a scalded dog on my Note 8 (and Note 2 for that matter),
My fathers TF101 struggles to replay the Quadrant render. The Tegra2 was, and always has been, a total slug.

hung2900 said:
Reason? Cannot play fruit ninja perfectly smoothly. ShadowGun DZ seems even laggier than my tf101.
I didn't say anything abt the processor, coz even 1ghz quad core (power saving mode? Is totally enough. But the GPU...
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Fruit Ninja is playing just fine for me on my GT-N5110, so I'm not sure where you're getting its not "perfectly smooth". The same goes for large games like Asphalt 7 or Max Payne in that they play as well on this device as they do on my N7 or TF300T.

Both are great tablets!

Tablet Recommendation

Right now i have the Ipad 2 and i want to get away from it and move to a samsung product. I have Galaxy s4 and love it. Would you guys recommend this tablet or is there a different samsung tablet you would recommend? or should i wait till something newer comes out?

Recommend what lol? You didn't say anything. I'm not a fan of Samsung but I like the Note 2014. I've been waiting for a nexus 10 refresh but am thinking about other 8 inch options. I'm honestly just as lost as you are. I've never had a tablet and I'm still not sure if I need one
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What tablet would you guys recommend.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0
zackman2091 said:
Right now i have the Ipad 2 and i want to get away from it and move to a samsung product. I have Galaxy s4 and love it. Would you guys recommend this tablet or is there a different samsung tablet you would recommend? or should i wait till something newer comes out?
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I just sold my iPad mini to buy a Note 8.0
-S-pen
-Bigger Battery
-Screen I'm used to (Since I'm coming from iPad mini)
- Better Colour Saturation (in my opinion)
-MicroSD

I would definitely recommend a Note 8 if you're looking for a small form factor tablet.
There are a number of pros to the Note 8 that I can think of, that personally aided my decision in buying one.
- Screen and Device. Slightly bigger than the Nexus 7, and not as big as a full sized tablet. My hands get very uncomfortable with large tablets, and the screen is of a perfect size and weight to do whatever tasks I want to do on the tablet. Not too big, not too small, but just right. Screen is also very easy on the eyes. You would think at 1200x800 resolution it wouldn't be crisp, but in fact the display is excellent for web browsing, reading, etc. I read books and comic books without having to zoom in at all.
- S-Pen. Perfect for writing and drawing. My son and I love playing hangman on it. It's a lot more accurate than using a finger, and since he's young he can easily practice his writing.
- Speed. This tablet has definitely got some power. When I got the Note 8, I wasn't expecting it to be as fast and responsive as it is. It never lags along and is extremely snappy with its tasks -- in the event that it does lag, it can easily be overclocked to 1.7GHz, 1.8GHz or even 1.9GHz with minimal loss of battery power.
- Build Quality. It may be plastic on the back, but it's sturdy, and the glass is top notch. Would be nicer with the fake-leather rear like the 2014 edition Note/Note 3.
- TouchWiz. Just kidding, haha. Nobody likes TouchWiz
There you have my recommendation
EDIT: Totally forgot to mention expandability! Toss a 64GB MicroSDXC inside this sucker and you've got tons of storage for books, music, movies, etc. If you root, you can also use applications like FolderMount to copy large application data to the MicroSD card, so you aren't limited to the internal storage for your apps.

Note 8.0
zackman2091 said:
Right now i have the Ipad 2 and i want to get away from it and move to a samsung product. I have Galaxy s4 and love it. Would you guys recommend this tablet or is there a different samsung tablet you would recommend? or should i wait till something newer comes out?
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Tegra Note 7 is very similar to the Galaxy Note devices in the fact that it also has an included stylus and dock within the device to hold said stylus. Not many devices come with this feature anymore, and it's something that I wish more manufacturers would employ. At last another manufacturer sees the benefit of at least having option of a stylus there to use if the user pleases, or somewhere to put it in case they don't. As the owner of a Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 myself, I am ever so grateful of the dock on the bottom right of my tablet to stick my stylus when it's not in use. Otherwise yeah, I probably would have lost the stylus countless times by now. But I digress - the fact that NVIDIA includes this feature on the Tegra Note 7 already makes it a tablet to consider, particularly as a rival to the more expensive Galaxy Note 8.0, which costs $349.

While it may not be the greatest tablet, Sprint is offering the 7 inch Samsung Tab 3 for free (technically it's $50 with a $50 rebate) with a 2 year contract. What makes it attractive is that data plans start at $5/mo.
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Another thing to consider if you can get the 3G (N5100) model is that you have always on email, web etc.
I think the Note 8 is very good. I'm happy with it and while I want more than 16 GB (actually 9.? if not rooted), I haven't run out of RAM yet.
It is a great tablet. Form, function, size, weight.
Shofar1

I have a Samsung galaxy tab 2 10, I sold it 2 mount ago, and buy a galaxy note 8
I thinks galaxy note 8 is the best in size and wight.

Unless you have more specific needs than just a tablet, current edition of the Nexus 7 or a Kindle Fire HDX. Nexus is better for general computing and experiencing Android to it's fullest. Amazon's tablets are better if you already are invested in Amazons stuff (like Instant Video or Amazon Prime). Both are cheap and feature excellent hardware options.
I prefer the Galaxy Note 8.0 for daily driver because of the S-Pen and Samsung's greater codec support. If it wasn't for the S-Pen, I'd just use a Nexus 7 (2013).
LG's G Pad 8.3 on Google Play is basically a Nexus 7 with a larger screen and slower updates. Everything else is a fairly minor difference, unless it's an aspect that matters to you.

Spidey01 said:
Unless you have more specific needs than just a tablet, current edition of the Nexus 7 or a Kindle Fire HDX. Nexus is better for general computing and experiencing Android to it's fullest. Amazon's tablets are better if you already are invested in Amazons stuff (like Instant Video or Amazon Prime). Both are cheap and feature excellent hardware options.
I prefer the Galaxy Note 8.0 for daily driver because of the S-Pen and Samsung's greater codec support. If it wasn't for the S-Pen, I'd just use a Nexus 7 (2013).
LG's G Pad 8.3 on Google Play is basically a Nexus 7 with a larger screen and slower updates. Everything else is a fairly minor difference, unless it's an aspect that matters to you.
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I agree with you but you should also consider the screen size (8" instead of 7"). I've compared both N7 and Note 8 and the size difference is quite important without increasing the weight or necessary space for it.
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Wait for the newer models to come out. Its not too much time until then.
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