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Galaxy Tab 7.7

Did you guys see the hands on video yet? 720p SAMOLED+ screen, exynos internal and an external sd slot in a thinner package
I'm not sure if it's the exynos internal or the 3.2 but the rotation and home screen transition looked extremely smooth
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-hands-on-video/

I like the size of it. Very portable.
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cdf3 said:
I like the size of it. Very portable.
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i'm more excited about the specs and basic performance it's exhibiting on the video

Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?

5thElement said:
Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?
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Eh, the 7" is a great size for traveling.

i think ill sell my 10" when this comes out, it'll be nice to get off the tegra 2 and get something a little more portable

I'm more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note for my next phone. I thought anything bigger than 4.5" would be too bit for a phone, but after watching the videos, it seems fine. I guess the thinness and tiny bezel help a lot. Sadly we probably won't see it on US carriers for 6 months.

No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.

i just wish the 10.1 would have come with exynos.
and the ppi on those screens!!

I had a Euro Galaxy Tab 7" and while it was very portable. I kept wishing it was bigger when playing games. Especially, when play Order & Chaos. The new 7.7 is tempting but I learned my lesson once already. If I were to switch, the 8.9 would probably be the one for me.
BTW, love the Samsung Note. I wonder which SoC its using? Anyone have the complete specs for it?

It's running the same as the 7.7, we know that haha.
The note sounds sweet! 5.3" super amoled at 1280x800....damn
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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".

5thElement said:
Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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Says who? Is it comfortable reading a book on a 3.5-4" screen smartphone? Surfing the full-mode web? Didn't think so.
7" is most likely the sweet spot for portable tablets, and the reason why all e-readers are around that size. The perfect tablet size for me would be 8-9" as well.

5thElement said:
Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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That's bull. My OG Tab is still used every day (though it gets retired the minute I can get my hands on that 7.7), along with my old 4" SGS and my current 4.3" SGS2, and I have a Tab 10.1
Different tools for different jobs.

This looks fantastic! Got the 10.1 myself and while it's awesome, this HD resolution, MircroSD slot, Dual Core etc make it a very appealing device. Form factor is lovely as well and seems an ideal size for traveling. Will see what else pops up at IFA and will await Kal El devices as well.

akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later.
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No one would ever have a device with this mentality. One has to have gadget nirvana: make your decision based on what's available at that time, then relax and don't worry if it's not the absolute latest thing. Will it still do what you want? Yep! Will it not have that lastest shiny thing that marketing departments want you to think you need in order to not want to hurl yourself off a bridge in envy of others? Maybe not, but who gives a crap.
Kal-el devices will be overshadowed by the next gen processor or integrated GPU or whatever very soon after they are on the market. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to wait a bit for something you think will be better and has a definite launch date. But, to be constantly on edge that whatever device you get will be "obsolete" soon after purchase is kind of a slavish mentality.
I'm reminded of a coworker I had who was putting off buying a digital camera because they kept getting better every six months. So, in 2009 she was still using a dinky 110 film camera.
Anyway, not to rant. But, if we need (need may be too strong a word for tablets) a device then playing the waiting game is as much as a con as it is a pro.

akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.
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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.

I say reward yourself now. When Tegra 3 or better comes out, you upgrade to the newer one & either resell or hand me down gift to someone.

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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.
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You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7

5thElement said:
You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7
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And you've used tegra 3 already haven't you?
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[Q] Wich one should I buy?

Hi, I am actualy an owner of first galaxy tab 7 version and I am considering the change to a newer one. I have in mind 2 or 3 options and I guess someone helps me with my decision. I dont want a 10" one because is too big for me. I am considering the 7.7 the p6210 and the 8.9" one. I dont care much for 3g as I can tether from my phone. I see the 8.9 comes with a tegra 2, is the procesor better than the 7.7? what about the p6210?
As I have been reading, the 7.7 is the only one that uses super amoled and I guess is better than normal tft...
Any help?
I would like to have a thin and light tablet, dont care too much of watching movies, and if possible officially upgradable to ICS, not SOD too.
Thabks in advance.

The best thing to do is to go try them out in a shop. Having said that, I'm guessing that if you liked the old tab and found the 10.1 too big, you will probably prefer the 7.7 over the 8.9. The 8.9, as far as I can recall, has the same internals as the 10.1. The 7.7 is only marginally larger than the old 7, has a faster processor than all of the other galaxy tabs, and is the lightest too. And has the best screen.
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Theory said:
The best thing to do is to go try them out in a shop. Having said that, I'm guessing that if you liked the old tab and found the 10.1 too big, you will probably prefer the 7.7 over the 8.9. The 8.9, as far as I can recall, has the same internals as the 10.1. The 7.7 is only marginally larger than the old 7, has a faster processor than all of the other galaxy tabs, and is the lightest too. And has the best screen.
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Well have you had some any sod? I have read that there is some issues on this...
thanks for the respose

metuskale said:
Hi, I am actualy an owner of first galaxy tab 7 version and I am considering the change to a newer one. I have in mind 2 or 3 options and I guess someone helps me with my decision. I dont want a 10" one because is too big for me. I am considering the 7.7 the p6210 and the 8.9" one. I dont care much for 3g as I can tether from my phone. I see the 8.9 comes with a tegra 2, is the procesor better than the 7.7? what about the p6210?
As I have been reading, the 7.7 is the only one that uses super amoled and I guess is better than normal tft...
Any help?
I would like to have a thin and light tablet, dont care too much of watching movies, and if possible officially upgradable to ICS, not SOD too.
Thabks in advance.
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Depending on your needs, the chipset on the 7.7 might prove to be faster but the tegra 2 is no slouch either.
The screen on the 7.7 is a bit of a lottery as with all SAMOLED based screens produced after the Galaxy S. If you compare both side by side, depending on your preferences you might find the 8.9 to show a more natural color tone, better white brightness and an over all uniform screen color, the PLS screen is very decent. The SAMOLED plus gets better black levels though and more saturated colors.. still all in all a preference thing.
If they had a Tab 7.7 with the very same form factor and weight but with PLS screen id get that one instead.

and what about the p6200? looks like a little brother of the p6810 and bigger than p1000... is dual core too, and a little bit resolution, any one know something about this one? Nobody in spain knows anything about this!

The Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, Its been out for a while in my place and its also a good choice if you dont want SAMOLED.. its a tad bit heavier than the 7.7 but noticeably thicker. It also has the Mali-400 GPU and Exynos chipset at 1.2Ghz.
I kinda dislike text quality on it as I kinda see something that looks like interlacing going on with the text.

i am serioulsy the p6200/p6210 but I have been reading the xda forum and have seen that almost everyboy has the SOD problem and Samsung has said nothing yet...
As I can see, the more stable one right now is the 8.9" one... Despite of the weight and not as thin as the others... Not amoled too.

7.7 is my choice of tab, superior screen to my 7+ I wouldn't go any bigger than the 7.7 as it would be too uncomfortable to hold in my opinion. 7.7 screen is so much clearer and better in the sun. I find my 7+ a bit hard to see sometimes.
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I dont know how wide spread the random SOD is but it happens to my note and as well as others using full stock.
Despite the screen possible screen issues, im still getting the 7.7 though.. since you came from the original P1000 I think the P6800 is a better upgrade.. just make sure you buy locally incase you need to return/exchange it.

ouch! this.does not sound good. Anyone knows if its hardware or software? Hope Samsung will.fix it...

metuskale said:
Well have you had some any sod? I have read that there is some issues on this...
thanks for the respose
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I'm very happy with mine so far.
To add a bit to my earlier post. I think a really important factor is how you intend to use the device.
The old 7, 7.0+ and the 7.7 can be comfortably used with one hand for a somewhat extended period of time. (I do that with my 7.7 on the commute, often *standing* in public transit.) The fact that the 7.7 is the lightest device (335g) in this group is a very big plus for me.
From what I can see, the 10.1 (as with the iPads) is more comfortably used with both hands, or in a lap. While the 8.9 might be smaller and lighter, it is still closer to the 10.1 in this respect than the various 7s.
More than anything else, it was my expected usage pattern that determined that I would get the 7.7. Conversely, my current satisfaction or happiness with the device has a lot to do with this usage pattern.

metuskale said:
i am serioulsy the p6200/p6210 but I have been reading the xda forum and have seen that almost everyboy has the SOD problem and Samsung has said nothing yet...
As I can see, the more stable one right now is the 8.9" one... Despite of the weight and not as thin as the others... Not amoled too.
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I've had the GTab 7+ since November nad have never experienced SOD. Rooted an CWM. Fine tab and price has dropped to about $350US. No issues reading but as with all 7" webpages can be a chore...depending on the site really and not the tablet. Very smooth tab. The Xynos (spelling?) processor is MUCH better than the Tegra2 IMO. Great battery life, excellent screen (for not being SMOLED). On track for ICS according to Samsung. The fact the 8.9 doesn't have uSD broke that deal for me where the GTab 7+ does have uSD and IR for TV's, stereos, etc.
That said, I am lusting after the 7.7! Or waiting to see if the GTab 8.3 specs out well.

I havent gotten the 7.7 yet and now rumors of an 8.3!!

EarlZ said:
I havent gotten the 7.7 yet and now rumors of an 8.3!!
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I know. Samsung cannibalizing on its own devices it would seem. And also releasing in March, a dual core Tab 2? Geez.

i got it
I fanally got the 7.7, hope it goes well!!

Competitor to Galaxy Tab 7.7 announced - Toshiba Excite 7.7

They just announced the Toshiba Excite 7.7 today and will be on sale June 10 with Tegra 3 and 7.7 Super Amoled for $499 for 16gb and $579 for 32gb.
Now the question is the screen the same as galaxy tab 7.7 super amoled plus? If it is then we might have a direct competition to our beloved tab 7.7.
I'm wondering if I should return the tab 7.7 and wait for this excite 7.7 which is little bit cheaper but also comes with tegra 3 quadcore. I would definitely want to see the benchmark of this and also comparisons to tab 7.7.
Here's the link: http://phandroid.com/2012/04/10/tos...d-excite-13-android-4-0-tablets-with-tegra-3/

ckyllr said:
They just announced the Toshiba Excite 7.7 today and will be on sale June 10 with Tegra 3 and 7.7 Super Amoled for $499 for 16gb and $579 for 32gb.
Now the question is the screen the same as galaxy tab 7.7 super amoled plus? If it is then we might have a direct competition to our beloved tab 7.7.
I'm wondering if I should return the tab 7.7 and wait for this excite 7.7 which is little bit cheaper but also comes with tegra 3 quadcore. I would definitely want to see the benchmark of this and also comparisons to tab 7.7.
Here's the link: http://phandroid.com/2012/04/10/tos...d-excite-13-android-4-0-tablets-with-tegra-3/
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Yeah, it looks like it could be a 7.7 beater since it's slightly cheaper and has a quad core. Hard to say until it's released and someone can do a comparison test.
Still, it's not like the Galaxy 7.7 will be the hottest thing in small tabs much longer at any rate.

I have this friday to return my gtab 7.7 p6810 I got for about $550. The excite 7.7 also comes with ICS and it's unskinned which is better than the TW crap from Samsung.
Decisions... decisions... I wonder if it will be better than the gtab 7.7. I should have waited!

ckyllr said:
I have this friday to return my gtab 7.7 p6810 I got for about $550. The excite 7.7 also comes with ICS and it's unskinned which is better than the TW crap from Samsung.
Decisions... decisions... I wonder if it will be better than the gtab 7.7. I should have waited!
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Well, there will always be something better down the road (if not, then we're probably in trouble and you should be busy stockpiling rations rather than worrying about having the latest silly tablet). But, you'll have to wait at least two more months for the Toshiba anyway. First World Problems and such.

Hmm I saw this earlier today and the fact it has ICS is quite a huge plus and of course tegra 3 but then I am not sure how the battery is long term on the new tegra. But it is much thicker than the 7.7, although more ports it seems, but the bezel is also a bit bigger than the 7.7. And this is where it irks me. The bezel on the 7.7 is smaller than in some laptops and looks amazing.
I am sure the new toshiba will be a nice tablet but it feels a notch down in quality than the 7.7.

So, I just purchased a Galaxy Tab 7.7 from Negri last night...got an email today saying they're out of stock but would be able to fill the order in 3-5 business days. The question is should I just wait out the order? or cancel and wait out for the Excite?
From my understanding, the only major difference here is Tegra 3 vs Exynos and additional ports? The pricing will be pretty much the same for both it looks like.
Anybody else caught in the same position? Any input would be nice, especially from current galaxy 7.7 owners! TIA

cthang said:
So, I just purchased a Galaxy Tab 7.7 from Negri last night...got an email today saying they're out of stock but would be able to fill the order in 3-5 business days. The question is should I just wait out the order? or cancel and wait out for the Excite?
From my understanding, the only major difference here is Tegra 3 vs Exynos and additional ports? The pricing will be pretty much the same for both it looks like.
Anybody else caught in the same position? Any input would be nice, especially from current galaxy 7.7 owners! TIA
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My GT 7.7 WiFi is for sale...probably works out to less than the Excite.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590679&highlight=tab+7+7

cthang said:
So, I just purchased a Galaxy Tab 7.7 from Negri last night...got an email today saying they're out of stock but would be able to fill the order in 3-5 business days. The question is should I just wait out the order? or cancel and wait out for the Excite?
From my understanding, the only major difference here is Tegra 3 vs Exynos and additional ports? The pricing will be pretty much the same for both it looks like.
Anybody else caught in the same position? Any input would be nice, especially from current galaxy 7.7 owners! TIA
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Seeing as Negri is already selling the P6810 for under $500, it seems pretty silly to wait for the Excite if you're considering buying now, since you'd just be waiting to pay about the same price for arguably slightly better hardware in (imo) a less attractive package. Only reason to wait I can think of would be if you really think Samsung will never deliver ICS to the 7.7--I'm sympathetic to the skepticism, but I would be pretty surprised if the 7.7 doesn't have some sort of working ICS by the time the Excite is actually available. Of course if you just can't stand Honeycomb to begin with, you shouldn't buy the 7.7, but I'm assuming you're okay with HC since you placed the order in the first place.
FWIW, I'm quite happy with my P6810 even if HC is a miserable failure of an OS. I certainly don't see it being improved by tegra3 and the form factor of the Excite--and I'm 99% sure it'll be the same panels manufactured by Samsung with the same issues.

No hdmi port kills it for me, was looking pretty good other than that

all i can say, latest always better, galaxy tab 7.7 already few months old

ckyllr said:
They just announced the Toshiba Excite 7.7 today and will be on sale June 10 with Tegra 3 and 7.7 Super Amoled for $499 for 16gb and $579 for 32gb.
Now the question is the screen the same as galaxy tab 7.7 super amoled plus? If it is then we might have a direct competition to our beloved tab 7.7.
I'm wondering if I should return the tab 7.7 and wait for this excite 7.7 which is little bit cheaper but also comes with tegra 3 quadcore. I would definitely want to see the benchmark of this and also comparisons to tab 7.7.
Here's the link: http://phandroid.com/2012/04/10/tos...d-excite-13-android-4-0-tablets-with-tegra-3/
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Ok my view on the Toshiba Excite -
Super Amoled - Not Super Amoled Plus = Big difference
Tegra 3 - Like Tegra 2 has FLAWS!
Quad core - Doesn't mean better than dual core
Toshiba - Hate Samsung or love them they are far better than Toshiba
Size - Tosh is bigger and bigger ain't better
My 2 cents

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Ok my view on the Toshiba Excite -
Super Amoled - Not Super Amoled Plus = Big difference
Tegra 3 - Like Tegra 2 has FLAWS!
Quad core - Doesn't mean better than dual core
Toshiba - Hate Samsung or love them they are far better than Toshiba
Size - Tosh is bigger and bigger ain't better
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actually according to various websites the screen is identical, although the text in the press release is rather vague about the screen, stating just AMOLED, not AMOLED plus.
http://www.engadget.com/page/3/
The 7.7, in particular, sports the same AMOLED display inside the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7,
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But if it is not the plus display, then probably pentile and that would suck.

A 7.7" 1280x800 PenTile display would be awful, but I haven't seen any real info one way or the other. In the absence of hard facts, the most obvious answer is that it's the exact same panel Samsung already manufactures for the tab 7.7.

So, I've decided to stick with the 7.7, but as Negri appears to be out of stock for an unknown period of time, do ya'll recommend any other places to get it at a fair price similar to Negri's? Thanks!

It seems to me that Excite 7.7 doesn't provide much by way of competition vs the P6800 honestly; it doesn't double as a phone. As for being a competitor to the P6810, yeah, I suppose I could see that, but again, we won't really know until we can perform a proper head-to-head against both devices.
How do their screen's actually match up against each other?
How will they feel in your hand? (The Excite seem bulkier)
How will their battery performance stack up to each other?
How will their performance overall stack up?
Will the P6810/6800 have ICS by June? How will that change/improve the current experience?
Etc, etc, etc...
I guess, all I'm trying to say is that there are a lot of things to consider before immediately making a knee-jerk reaction.

cthang said:
So, I've decided to stick with the 7.7, but as Negri appears to be out of stock for an unknown period of time, do ya'll recommend any other places to get it at a fair price similar to Negri's? Thanks!
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I placed a backorder on Negri last week, around tuesday or wednesday, and got a notification on saturday that my tab has shipped. so all in all, not a very long wait.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/10/toshiba-excite-7-7-10-13-announced/
On the above article engadget clearly states that the tab 7.7 and excite 7.7 both have same screen i.e superamoled plus.
I love every bits of samusung,but i just hate these these kind of things !!
Samsung galaxy tab 7.7 is specifically known for its unique superamoled plus screen ,but look at samsung what a cheap mentality! !They sold their uniqueness to toshiba! !
And for these kind of things my love for samsung converted into hate ! !

I think Jaded hit in on the head.
You would have to compare the Excite to the WiFi ONLY version of the tab 7.7
The Tab 7.7 having radios inside of it is huge, at least for me.
Also the slimness of the 7.7 is a big factor.

pikulu said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/10/toshiba-excite-7-7-10-13-announced/
On the above article engadget clearly states that the tab 7.7 and excite 7.7 both have same screen i.e superamoled plus.
I love every bits of samusung,but i just hate these these kind of things !!
Samsung galaxy tab 7.7 is specifically known for its unique superamoled plus screen ,but look at samsung what a cheap mentality! !They sold their uniqueness to toshiba! !
And for these kind of things my love for samsung converted into hate ! !
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Why would you care about this as a consumer? Unless you have lots of Samsung stock, there's really no reason to feel this kind of way towards a giant manufacturer.

ckyllr said:
I have this friday to return my gtab 7.7 p6810 I got for about $550. The excite 7.7 also comes with ICS and it's unskinned which is better than the TW crap from Samsung.
Decisions... decisions... I wonder if it will be better than the gtab 7.7. I should have waited!
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you made up your mind already. Quickly return the tablet

Not Quite the Rumored Note 7.7...But Close! (Note 8.0)

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...d-mwc-reveal?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Name: Galaxy Note 8.0
Product numbers: GT-N5100 (Wifi), GT-N5110 (Wifi/3G)
Battery: 4600mAh
Dimensions: 211.3x136.3x7.95mm
Weight: 330 grams
Screen: 8.0-inch Super Clear LCD @ 1280x800 resolution
Data: Quad-band EDGE, quad-band HSPA+ up to 21.1Mbps down, 5.76Mbps up (GT-N5110 only)
Cameras: 5MP rear, 1.3MP front
RAM: 2GB
Storage: 16/32GB options, expandable via microSD card
OS: Android 4.2 Jelly Bean
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Discuss...

smaller battery than the 7.7, no OLED screen and compared to the ipad mini, the benchmarks seem lower (there is a link on sammobile comparing them). I do hope the performance will be better. If priced right, should be a nice tablet, but I feel there might a lot of tablets introduced at MWC this year.

It seems like they are going for the budget tablet crowd this time, that is too bad but who can blame them with the success of the 200 dollar tablets.
I really wanted to get a 8-9 inch upgrade for the 7.7 but worse battery life and screen will probably be a deal breaker for me.

No need. Quite vanilla. Pass.

Seems that 7.7 is srill best buy Got mine today! Awesome tab, not small, not large, and ability to use as phone, just superb!
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SLCD... meh...
unless this one packs the new octa-core exynos that will be the time i may look into it
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TeeeJaay said:
SLCD... meh...
unless this one packs the new octa-core exynos that will be the time i may look into it
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rumor says same as Note 10.1 & 2

Doubt this will sway me over to upgrade. The specs look ****ty.
I just picked up a Nexus 10 and may eventually drop my 7.7 depending on usage scenarios. Lack of a completed CM rom (9, 10 or 10.1) due to Samsung is the main culprit. Maintainers for Exynos4 devices may not last much longer, which sucks ;[

on a brighter note, you can use it as your gps navigator, or you can even let the screen on for some time without worrying about burn ins.

Its not close. It simply sucks compared with the 7.7
Hopefully we'll get a JB update for our Tabs that will allow us to keep it long enough to see an update worth upgrading
Honestly Samsung can do better. Like a 1080p Super Amoled screen a battery a least the same size as the 7.7 (Come on the Note III is rumored to have a 5,000mA battery !! Bigger than this crap 8" Note !! Something' wrong there !), etc...

Would explain why Samsung are reluctant to provide the JB update for the 7.7 (at least not until these new tablets are available). 7.7 + JB would be tough to beat even with older processor

Guys the market has moved enormously since the 7.7 was announced and then launched.
When the 7.7 was announced the only real competition was Apple and the 7.7 was priced against the Ipad and component costs could therefore be quite high.
Since then prices for tablets have tumbled about 50% and as a consequence component costs have got squeezed.
While we all love the SuperA screens on our tabs I suspect the costings mean it's unlikely to be on another product anytime soon, everything after including phones has been Pentile screen AFAIK.
The next 'flexible' screen looks really interesting but I hate to think of the manufacturing cost and therefore how much the tablet will cost......
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I think breaking the current pixel barrier on 7 inch screens is something that all of the manufacturers are struggling with, especially with price expectations being what they are now compared to when the 7.7 was first released.

product sheet revealed also...Quad-Core 1.6 Ghz. Exynos, I'd imagine.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-young-galaxy-x-cover-2/
My guess...the slightly smaller battery & Super Clear LCD will put it right around $299-$349 price point

Bandage said:
product sheet revealed also...Quad-Core 1.6 Ghz. Exynos, I'd imagine.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-young-galaxy-x-cover-2/
My guess...the slightly smaller battery & Super Clear LCD will put it right around $299-$349 price point
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Any thoughts on how that display will compare to AMOLED?

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Any thoughts on how that display will compare to AMOLED?
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Comparison testing has shown AMOLED screens to have higher contrasts, deeper blacks, etc. Also better outside viewing & power consumption.
Not to say that Sony's Super Clear LCD is terrible...on the contrary, it can really shine in the right scenarios. I really think price point is the sole reason the Note 8.0 will be featuring it.
I'd be willing to place money on this being a sub $300 device

they should've made two of these, one aimed for the low-mid market (w/ LCD) and the one aimed for people with deep pocket
seriously, this is not a replacement for out 7.7 it's just another Note, just like the note 10.1 was made not as a replacement for Tab 10.1

Too bad, I was hoping for a 7.7 Note w/ the SAMOLED+ screen. I wouldn't even care as much about higher resolution, as I'm fine w/ the 7.7's and same specs as Note2 would satisfy me. What I do want is the stylus w/ airview, & MultiView as I sometimes wish my Note2 and 7.7 were one device.

^likewise, but what sammy did was lower down the bar just to compete with a lower spec'd iPad Mini, even our old 7.7 will whip the ipad easily, I've seen the mini, compared it side by side with my 7.7 and immediately, there's a striking difference in screen quality and resolution.
Then I remembered, the Galaxy tab 10.1 2 is another "DOWNGRADE" from the original 10.1
hey sammy should start making a new low budget tablet line tagged under NEBULA series LOL

well... at least it still has the earpiece?
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/24/leaked-samsung-galaxy-note-8-0/
honestly i am not sure who to blame here. Google decided to use a horrible ui for all tablets from 4.2 forward essentially using just a enlarged phone ui.
So in response samsung just made a huge phone hardware...

[Q] Galaxy note 10.1 vs Galaxy Note 8.0 for drawing and art?

Hello I'm intrigued by the S Pen, I'm just wondering if those of you with the 10" tablet are able to comfortably draw and sketch on it? I don't really want to have to wait until Q2 for the Note 8. I do like the smaller form factor though. I had an iPad for a while and sold it because it was too heavy and bulky. I had a Nexus 7 and liked it much better. I just want to get the input from you owners. Does the note 10.1 feel heavy and bulky to you? I'm trying to figure out if the 8.0 would have enough room to draw on, I think it would though. I messed around with the 10 today at BB today and was surprised how nice the software was and how accurate the pen was. What should I do? Thanks.

It feels fine to me but I'm a big guy with big hands I had 7" tablets before and if drawing is what u going to do get the 10.1
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Thanks. Im a big guy too, just withh average sized hands haha. I just wish Samsung would release a price on the 8.0 because that is a factor considering I have another tablet I've paid for. The problem I used to have with my iPad is my arms and neck would start hurting after a while, but I was attempting to play a lot of games on it, I think drawing on a table wit the note 10 would be much easier.

After using my note 10.1, my galaxy tab 2 7.0 seems absolutely puny now. I tried drawing on my note 2, and it's a touch too small. I would say go with the note 10. It's a little more useful, and you have a n7 for portability.

Yeah I feel the same way use to use my gf nexus 7 and think wow th his is big by comparison to my gs3 note with my note I feel like I can use the n7 as a phone by comparison to my note 10.1. Its a bit big at first but you will get use to it, it comes down to personal preference really what feels good in your hands
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I think the Galaxy Note 10.1 is too small sometimes (when I multiwindow, for instance) so I'd imagine the 8 would have that feeling amplified..

The price from what I read was 199 but don't hold me to it
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Thanks for the input. I'm trying to wait and see about the note 8. 0 but idk. I heard the note 8 has a TFT display which typically doesn't have good viewing angles,but thats hinting at it being more of a budget tablet. So I'm not sure. I can get a note 10.1 off ebay for under $400 so price isn't a big deal I guess.

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Thanks for the input. I'm trying to wait and see about the note 8. 0 but idk. I heard the note 8 has a TFT display which typically doesn't have good viewing angles,but thats hinting at it being more of a budget tablet. So I'm not sure. I can get a note 10.1 off ebay for under $400 so price isn't a big deal I guess.
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I had the tab 7.7 and LOVED it...why they dropped amoled on the 8 is a mystery to me, and very disappointing. Im 6'3" and 165 lbs. My hands are plenty big, and I STILL fin myself having to move them while holding the 10.1 in both hands....if I DIDNT use it for drawing, id get a smaller tablet.
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I had the tab 7.7 and LOVED it...why they dropped amoled on the 8 is a mystery to me, and very disappointing. Im 6'3" and 165 lbs. My hands are plenty big, and I STILL fin myself having to move them while holding the 10.1 in both hands....if I DIDNT use it for drawing, id get a smaller tablet.
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Problem with high def screens and amoled is power consumption. Lots more pixels to power up seems to be more efficient to use tft at that point in size.
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I had the tab 7.7 and LOVED it...why they dropped amoled on the 8 is a mystery to me, and very disappointing. Im 6'3" and 165 lbs. My hands are plenty big, and I STILL fin myself having to move them while holding the 10.1 in both hands....if I DIDNT use it for drawing, id get a smaller tablet.
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Thanks, your comment really reminds me Why I don't like 10inch tablets. I remember the iPad 4 I had was absolutely beautiful screen and had excellent performance, but that wasn't enough to make me keep it. It was very tiring using it more than a few minutes at a time. I've seen some of the amazing drawings people have created on the Gnote 2, so I don't think 8 inches would be too small at all because I'm typically a small drawer anyway. I am going to wait it out I guess, and at least hear the pricing for the Gnote8, couldn't be too long hopefully.
Also when I said it has a TFT LCD, I was thinking TN display which is horrible so that not a big concern at all. If its around $300 I will be getting the note 8.0

Get the samsung ativ smart pc, its 11.6" with s-pen, dockable keyboard like transformer and windows RT or windows 8 depending on how much you pay.
Otherwise, the 10.1 is a good size for drawing, havent tried the 8 yet.honestly for me,sometimes the 10.1 is a little small taking notes in class. But it may not be the case for everyone
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Couple things to keep in mind when comparing the two:
1) Though both have the same resolution, the screen will be significantly sharper on the Note 8.0 due to an increase in PPI of about 40.
2) This means crisper webfonts which was always the big knock on the Note 10.1 - web text has the jaggies.
3) There is a significant difference in writing space on an 8 vs a 7 in screen. I've owned 7 inch tablets and the iPad Mini (7.9) seems MUCH larger.
4) In a pinch you can slip an 8 inch tablet into a front pants pocket. With the Note 10.1 you are committed to carrying it.
5) Timing. The closer we get to release of the Note 8.0, especially if the price of the wifi version comes in under $350, demand for the Note 10.1 is going to plummet. We have already seen Bestbuy cut their price by $50. Expect that to go lower. If you can wait you may be able to pick up a Note 10.1 for $399 brand new. Also Craigslist and eBay will be full of Note 10.1 owners selling their almost new tablets at big discounts to buy a Note 8.0.
6) While the Note 10.1 has been a sort of meh seller, I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular (unless they price it too high). Also the higher ppi will be a big deal. That means more Dev support. Good thing.

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Couple things to keep in mind when comparing the two:
1) Though both have the same resolution, the screen will be significantly sharper on the Note 8.0 due to an increase in PPI of about 40.
2) This means crisper webfonts which was always the big knock on the Note 10.1 - web text has the jaggies.
3) There is a significant difference in writing space on an 8 vs a 7 in screen. I've owned 7 inch tablets and the iPad Mini (7.9) seems MUCH larger.
4) In a pinch you can slip an 8 inch tablet into a front pants pocket. With the Note 10.1 you are committed to carrying it.
5) Timing. The closer we get to release of the Note 8.0, especially if the price of the wifi version comes in under $350, demand for the Note 10.1 is going to plummet. We have already seen Bestbuy cut their price by $50. Expect that to go lower. If you can wait you may be able to pick up a Note 10.1 for $399 brand new. Also Craigslist and eBay will be full of Note 10.1 owners selling their almost new tablets at big discounts to buy a Note 8.0.
6) While the Note 10.1 has been a sort of meh seller, I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular (unless they price it too high). Also the higher ppi will be a big deal. That means more Dev support. Good thing.
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Thanks, I agree with everything you said. I forgot the poi is only 149 on the Gnote10.1. I don't want fuzzy text! I also keep thinking back to my previous 10" tablets and they were not pleasant experiences. I didn't mention this before but I have an iPad mini as well, and its absolutely brilliant when it comes to picking it up and just doing anything you want. I'm going to wait for the note 8.0 and possibly preorder if Samsung does that not sure?

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Thanks, I agree with everything you said. I forgot the poi is only 149 on the Gnote10.1. I don't want fuzzy text! I also keep thinking back to my previous 10" tablets and they were not pleasant experiences. I didn't mention this before but I have an iPad mini as well, and its absolutely brilliant when it comes to picking it up and just doing anything you want. I'm going to wait for the note 8.0 and possibly preorder if Samsung does that not sure?
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I think you could make the argument that one reason Samsung has not yet announced pricing for the Note 8.0 is that the wifi version will be $299 and they don't want to utterly destroy Note 10.1 sales between now and the day they release. Just for reference the Note 8.0 will be about as wide as the Note 2 is in landscape. So, if you have ever tried writing on the Note 2 in landscape you will know it is plenty wide.
Note 8.0. Thinner, lighter, more transportable, crisper screen yet still wide enough to write on in portrait. The perfect device IMHO. Only problem will be actually getting one. We'll be lucky to see a USA release before June. Europe always gets Samsung stuff first and they won't get theirs until 2nd quarter.

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I think you could make the argument that one reason Samsung has not yet announced pricing for the Note 8.0 is that the wifi version will be $299 and they don't want to utterly destroy Note 10.1 sales between now and the day they release. Just for reference the Note 8.0 will be about as wide as the Note 2 is in landscape. So, if you have ever tried writing on the Note 2 in landscape you will know it is plenty wide.
Note 8.0. Thinner, lighter, more transportable, crisper screen yet still wide enough to write on in portrait. The perfect device IMHO. Only problem will be actually getting one. We'll be lucky to see a USA release before June. Europe always gets Samsung stuff first and they won't get theirs until 2nd quarter.
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You're probably right about the pricing! Thats the only legitimate reason why I see they'd not release price.
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